Bleach: Derailed

[X] a spar, to prove that you're badass

Actually, this sounds more like how Zangetsu would like us to defend his honor.
 
[X] a drink off, to unconsciousness

Because I find the thought of being beaten in a drinking contest by someone who can't figure out a juice box to be hilarious.
 
While she is like 2 times his age and has far more drinking experience.
She's over a hundred. Much more than 2X his age. And no, I don't think she does. Her early life was as a Rukongai Urchin. Food in general would have been scarce, much less alcohol in the quantities required to build up a tolerance. Immediately after that she's a member of the Traditional Kuchiki Clan, and an unconventional one at that. Barring special circumstances like Kaien's death, I really doubt she'd drink more than small, ceremonial quantities. Now, clearly she's comfortable enough with having a glass on her downtime now, but personally i'd call that a relatively recent thing. And that alone wouldn't make her an experienced drinker. As far as Ichigo goes...we don't have enough information. Being a drunkard doesn't fit his character, and he's definitely not a novice, but we don't know anything else.
 
[X] a drink off, to unconsciousness

This option fits the mood the best. I can't believe people are going for a spar, jeez.
 
If the Shiba don't consider us good enough to be one of them because we don't start random fights with people out of our league over something like bumping into someone while tipsy, then IMO that's more on them then us. As is pride that leads you to picking fights you're not ready for is why a hollow is currently wearing the face, and soul, of their prodigal heir. If anything Kaien is a lesson in why you shouldn't let pride lead you into unwise fights, not that what he did and us fighting Rukia are really comparable.
I didn't say 'not good enough' - I said 'cut out'.

If you're looking at the noble house of Shiba where 'good enough' is even a metric that matters, you're doing it wrong.

So yeah; you're double plus bad not cut out to be a Shiba, wanting to do pragmatic, non-prideful stuff, and caring about good enough/not good enough stuff, and caring about facts and explainifying... you anti-Shiba, you! Where are your fireworks, or sudden-kicks-to-the-face, or rideable-and-named-boars, ah!?
If you don't get this whole exchange has been a joke to articulate how nonsensical the Shiba clan is and how you have to roll with that to not cock it up I don't know what to say, other than settle down and enjoy shit more.
No but really the Shiba are defined by being weirdos who don't give a fuck and giving a fuck/not being weird is definitively fucking it up - staaaaahp.

EDIT: Even more broadly, trying to apply logic and sense and munchkinry of a conventional sort to any of the numerous super quirky eccentric fucks in Bleach is ignoring one of the biggest core bits of what made Bleach/Zombie Powder good; shit is strange rather than rational.
 
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If anything Kaien is a lesson in why you shouldn't let pride lead you into unwise fights, not that what he did and us fighting Rukia are really comparable.
Yes! We'll look and act like Kaien. The trauma will throw Rukia off during the spar, causing her to hesitate at critical moments and leave openings for us to capitalize on.

We cannot possibly lose!:D
 
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She's over a hundred. Much more than 2X his age. And no, I don't think she does. Her early life was as a Rukongai Urchin. Food in general would have been scarce, much less alcohol in the quantities required to build up a tolerance. Immediately after that she's a member of the Traditional Kuchiki Clan, and an unconventional one at that. Barring special circumstances like Kaien's death, I really doubt she'd drink more than small, ceremonial quantities. Now, clearly she's comfortable enough with having a glass on her downtime now, but personally i'd call that a relatively recent thing. And that alone wouldn't make her an experienced drinker. As far as Ichigo goes...we don't have enough information. Being a drunkard doesn't fit his character, and he's definitely not a novice, but we don't know anything else.
On the other hand, we literally just had our first alcohol, so even that counts as "far more drinking experience".
 
I didn't say 'not good enough' - I said 'cut out'.


If you're looking at the noble house of Shiba where 'good enough' is even a metric that matters, you're doing it wrong.

So yeah; you're double plus bad not cut out to be a Shiba, wanting to do pragmatic, non-prideful stuff, and caring about good enough/not good enough stuff, and caring about facts and explainifying... you anti-Shiba, you! Where are your fireworks, or sudden-kicks-to-the-face, or rideable-and-named-boars, ah!?
If you don't get this whole exchange has been a joke to articulate how nonsensical the Shiba clan is and how you have to roll with that to not cock it up I don't know what to say, other than settle down and enjoy shit more.
No but really the Shiba are defined by being weirdos who don't give a fuck and giving a fuck/not being weird is definitively fucking it up - staaaaahp.

Sure, it's just that as I said, appealing to what X Shiba would do doesn't really move me. We're our own person, and can make our own choices. That's my personal taste though. Appealing to what Kaien would do in such a situation is even moreso given how that ended up for him. I'm pretty sure everyone in the family would have preferred it if he had chosen to swallow his pride that night instead of fighting alone. Kukaku even all but says as much by saying that Kaien had no business fighting that Hollow alone, and she doesn't even know about how Aaroniero is puppeting his soul right now.
 
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Yeah I feel like this is a fair question, actually.

EY YO ALL YOU PEEPS VOTING TO SWALLOW YOUR PRIDE AND LEAVE - I GOTS A QUESTION FOR YOUSE:

Shiba Kukaku, Shiba Isshin, Shiba Kaien, Shiba Ganju - can you honestly say you could see any of them swallowing their pride and leaving from a fight sans-good-but-wierd-reason-to-do-so?
90% sure ichigo has called all of them idiots at some point or another for pulling shit like that.
And then immediately turning around and doing to a slightly lesser degree, but still.

Edit: except for Kaien, because they never met.
 
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