I'll try to simplify it for you since the details of my posts seem to be ignored in favor of painting some weird picture of me to attack.
Sorry. When people write entire posts attacking basic physical augmentations as "unnatural" and "inhuman" I tend to form the belief that they're generally against human augmentation. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Normally I wouldn't care too much, but you're here and arguing, and TBH I feel like calling things "unnatural" and "inhuman" isn't very healthy.
rather doll-like and distinctly different in body to what she currently is
Delight intends to keep Melia looking healthy, human, and like herself. Those are some of her key goals, in fact. It's kind of hard to look good when you're not healthy or human! And maintaining Melia's appearance is a point of personal pride for her.
just fixing oneself more to appeal to this culture's ideals for some reason
The majority of the things that Delight described are not specific to this culture. In fact, you'll note that in several places she specifically decides to go against this culture's standards of beauty.


I can see why you'd be unhappy about changing yourself to suit someone else's standards. I feel like this is really something that you have to put some thought into and optimize - going all the way in either direction is probably less desirable than some middle ground that has to be carefully found. Ultimately, like the words you use in a conversation, your appearance is something that you're presenting to someone else to drive the universe toward futures that you'd be happier living in. Some part of that is looking at yourself in a mirror, but there's also absolutely a component where it's better to appeal to other people, same way it's better to use words that other people can understand when communicating.
 
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[X] Stealth vs. Magic
[X] Sonic Amulet

I'm not a big fan of the appearance changes because I can imagine them situationally backfiring, and because I actually kind of like Melia unmodified. Not out of antitranshumanism or whatever, but because I like Melia personally that way. I'd be more comfortable with something like Poison Immunity, but I'll admit I've got a bit of tactical voting going on.
 
I'm glad to see this quest is back. :) And a Vasil breaking someone's heart by ditching them? Heh.

This section was really well-written. I got an excellent sense of Delight as a supernatural beautician who takes great pride in her work and professionalism in making people look better and have it be in line with what they want. That said, it hits a number of my buttons, for reasons which I'll go into below. (Please don't kill me.)

First off, none of what Delight says is untrue, and props to her for taking a very analytical approach to the effect human beauty has in society, and using that approach to go through the possible benefits to Melia. But:
"Speaking of which, your maturity leaves something to be desired and you're unusually uncomfortable with the thoughts puberty is forcing upon you. You've spent far more time socializing with your elementals than with other human beings, have you not?"

Delight pauses, apparently waiting for an actual answer. You oblige.

"I spent at least an hour speaking with other people. And that's daily, not total."

"During meals?"

"...Mostly," you admit reluctantly. Since elementals weren't always allowed indoors, you often ran outside to eat instead. Some families weren't so strict and were willing to let them stay; those families, you ate with.

"Bombarding others with an endless barrage of questions in spite of their own limitations? Continuing long past the point where they'd start spouting nonsense or would avoid your presence?"
She leads with this before discussing other things, and it largely has two effects - one, to establish Delight's expertise, and two, to undermine Melia's confidence. The second may or may not be intentional - in fact, I'd be willing to bet that it's not - but it's a familiar refrain. It implies that Melia is naive and that she might get along better with people / be liked by people more if she accepts Delight's advice and/or changes. It's insidious, and it's nasty, and we see enough of it in reality. It may very well be true, but it's a nasty way to go about it.

Then there are these sections (note, I don't care about the scarring, scarring is tissue that hasn't healed properly).
"Your hands look fine from a distance, but don't quite pass close inspection. Their minor calluses and deformities need to go. Your elbows and knees are so very much worse; the bone blatantly sticks out and just doesn't suit you. A little is fine and even normal, but you're downright pointy."
"While we're on the subject of your arms, they're too big. Large muscles may have served you well in your life thus far, but unfortunately, they don't really look right on an Arcane. I can shrink them down to something closer to what a well-raised noble would possess while keeping their functionality."
These seem to me to be appealing to some particular cultural beauty standard that Melia doesn't quite fit, rather than necessarily a way of bringing out Melia's particular beauty. I have to admit that this is more of a gut reaction from IRL - a bunch of friends (generally girls) who have at various stages attempting to get themselves into shapes that are 'conventionally attractive' even though they don't fit them and can never fit them, despite them actually being quite attractive when they're healthy and happy. It's awesome that @Alivaril has picked up on this and has addressed it in the way that Delight talks about anorexia - but anorexia is only one of the myriad things that can happen when you try to conform to an impossible beauty standard.

I'm also a bit sick of quests and fics where one of the earliest things a character does is make themselves incredibly attractive - it's such a projection of peoples' fantasies that ruin the immersion. Jade's change from Ignition felt like it subverted that, in that alleviated a number of issues but brought up a few others, but I'm not interested in seeing that in Consumption.

I do think a lot of these changes are actually quite helpful, in regards to posture and various aspects that are more... I guess extrinsic aspects of beauty? (Struggling to find the right word here.) It's just bound up with this whole beauty package Delight has got going for her that I have problems with.
 
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Cute is basically hardwired into the human brain.
While that is true to an extent, historically the 'cute' aesthetic without a strong overtone of sexuality really only became popularized in the latter half of the 19th century, whereas the 'beautiful' aesthetic was prominent throughout history. Dolls have been around for millenia, and people had the means to make 'cute' dolls, but they were not popular until recently.

This is consistent with the treatment of childhood throughout history and it's recent indulgence- while yes, mothers tend to love all their children, the phrase 'children should be seen and not heard' was common until the latter half of the 20th century. Due to high infant mortality it was common in many cultures throughout history for children not to receive their full name until they were several years old- thus the 'breeching ceremony' where children were really acknowledged as a person. And, by and large, for most people childhood was a short period where children were pushed toward adulthood.

On another note, there are also some rather dark overtones to the 'cute' aesthetic- many people find an injured 'cute' thing more appealing than one that is uninjured and while little girls enjoy playing with dolls, and treasure them at times, psychologists have also found that many little girls revel in the role of having power over their dolls and will indulge their tempers upon them. Many people find having power over cute things and keeping them helpless satisfying in that it maintains dependency. Part of the appeal of the 'cute' is it's vulnerability and powerlessness.

A philosophical theory of cuteness

I'd expect a fairly contemporary response to 'cuteness' because we are contemporary questers who are playing with a contemporary QM, but while 'cute' is a universal aesthetic in a sense, it's importance in a culture and the response it elicits realistically should be far from universal.
 
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Anyone got any opinions on that weird vision? It looks like it got swept away by everything that happened afterwards.

Referring to themselves as their text color is a mixture of weird and cute. I can't decide if it makes me want to stay the hell away from picking up any headvoices ever.
 
Man, the struggle with Jade and her personal self image was so real. Enough that when Agneyastra did adjust it, Jade very quickly did a 180 on the subject. I mean, it was in addition to all the other things, but when you're literally throwing in votes to deliberately prop up her physical self image and prompt Agneyastra to discuss the matter, I don't know how you get that appearance and how she appeared to others wasn't awfully important to the early quest. Several orders of magnitude more than it is here actually.

I'm not? I don't see how that contradicts what I stated about how the transformation itself was less based on appeal and changing her appearance than this one which is all about that.

Sorry. When people write entire posts attacking basic physical augmentations as "unnatural" and "inhuman" I tend to form the belief that they're generally against human augmentation. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Normally I wouldn't care too much, but you're here and arguing, and TBH I feel like calling things "unnatural" and "inhuman" isn't very healthy.

Delight intends to keep Melia looking healthy, human, and like herself. Those are some of her key goals, in fact. It's kind of hard to look good when you're not healthy or human! And maintaining Melia's appearance is a point of personal pride for her.

The majority of the things that Delight described are not specific to this culture. In fact, you'll note that in several places she specifically decides to go against this culture's standards of beauty.


I can see why you'd be unhappy about changing yourself to suit someone else's standards. I feel like this is really something that you have to put some thought into and optimize - going all the way in either direction is probably less desirable than some middle ground that has to be carefully found. Ultimately, like the words you use in a conversation, your appearance is something that you're presenting to someone else to drive the universe toward futures that you'd be happier living in. Some part of that is looking at yourself in a mirror, but there's also absolutely a component where it's better to appeal to other people, same way it's better to use words that other people can understand when communicating.

I just don't consider the doll-like traits she wants Melia to take on as particularly like Melia herself. She also distinctly wants her to appeal to this culture's standards, just has a limit on just how much she can get rid of muscles/calluses/etc without being able to compensate for with her magic.
 
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Anyone got any opinions on that weird vision? It looks like it got swept away by everything that happened afterwards.

Referring to themselves as their text color is a mixture of weird and cute. I can't decide if it makes me want to stay the hell away from picking up any headvoices ever.
It seemed to be a memory of Delight's former host. Not sure if that's the High Priestess or what frankly.
 
It depends on what things. Getting a librarian to let her access valuable or fragile books? No, I don't think it'd help much. It's hardly a general encompassing "things" however, she'd have an easy time getting someone to guide or protect her for example, I even said this in an earlier post.
Eh. Maybe I'm just too damn weak to puppy-dog eyes. Could be based on my personal weakness, there.
Do we still disagree on this? That speed sounds about right and I don't see how that contradicts what I said.
Apparently not. Just trying to place why our analysis is different.
It doesn't really work with what she has, it completely changes her. Aside from her facial features, hair, and height what is really the same after Delight's tinkering is done?
...There are things other than that stuff that people are attached to? Aside from the scars on the tips of my left index and middle fingers, and the burn scar on my right arm, just above the wrist, I'm not too attached to the rest of me, barring my face. And I'm only attached to the scars because they're a reminder on how not to use a knife, and to be careful removing things from an oven, especially with short oven mitts. (Well, okay, the light scar on my index finger wasn't me being too unsafe with a knife. The deeper scar on my middle finger, on the other hand...)
Think he's talking about the fragile untouched noble like traits Delight wants Melia to have with her adorableness wouldn't be what many human cultures let alone other species consider attractive or worthy of respect.
Looking more vulnerable is of benefit, for convining others that we're less dangerous than we are. Seems fairly logical to me. I'm a hell of lot less likely to assume a girl who looks to have never handled a knife in her life is going to kick my ass, than a girl who actually looks like she's worked.
Melia's muscles wouldn't be ripped like a bodybuilder, they'd be functional and toned. They'd hardly stand out in covering clothes like in that picture.
Eh. You know what I mean.
Dude, I can lose half my body weight without messing with my self-image. You aren't going to convince me that Delight is planning something more extreme than that. She specifically prides herself on not fucking up people's self-images or their ability to be recognized. You're reaching really, really hard.
This. Delight's an artist. One who is damn good at what she does. What she's likely to do is going to be fairly subtle. She's actively trying to keep as much of Melia's original appearance intact as she can.

I think the most drastic changes would be complexion and the shifts in bone structure at the knees and elbows. Which would both be pretty minor, I'd say, body-image-wise.
I don't think you're really getting what's bothering me about these issues, so I'll try to explain.

Let's take it point by point:
Makeup - This is a temporary item, whilst controlling blushing in public is cool not being able to freely do so in private adds a certain inhuman disconnect. Same issue with controlling crying, although this doesn't fit in make-up or the other two categories you mentioned. Also, turning your skin into a completely different color with make-up has many of its own troubles and is only temporary. I also don't like changing skin tones to something "better", at least Jade's change was clearly unnatural becoming extremely light without paleness.

Diet - Being able to freely eat however much without consequences isn't something you can do with diet. Adds a bit more inhumanity, not much but when combined with the other aspects starts stacking up. Sounds like an objectively great trait mechanically though.

Posture Practice - This is distinctly turning your spine inhuman or reinforcing it magically to allow you to not have to bother with posture practice so we can slouch cutely. Don't see what practicing posture practice has to do with that. Is once again, just a bit unnatural.

Other - There's also the issues of making Melia completely free of blemishes/scars and getting rid of calluses/shrinking muscles whilst maintaining their capability somehow which makes her seem doll-like and more inhuman/uncanny. There's also implications that she'll change a bunch of other little things like when she mentioned her feet that adds even more to this.



You're right, that was thoughtless of me. Even if it got him to respond with his thoughts about the changes specifically, it made him upset and less focused on what I'm trying to get across due to my unkind tone. I'll be more careful.



Muscle tone on her arms and calluses on her hands wouldn't be noticeable in the portrait even if they were there since it's not too close and the clothes cover most of her body that potentially changes. Aside from the skin-color change, it's still as fitting as before.
Okay, so what I'm getting from this is that this is mostly emotional/personal preference, rather than a concern about Melia actually having acute body-image issues? I'm not counting 'regrets it later', in that.
I'm also a bit sick of quests and fics where one of the earliest things a character does is make themselves incredibly attractive - it's such a projection of peoples' fantasies that ruin the immersion. Jade's change from Ignition felt like it subverted that, in that alleviated a number of issues but brought up a few others, but I'm not interested in seeing that in Consumption.
I'm mostly doing it for amusement, if I'm being honest. I have a very strong sense of irony, and a love of things that break the norm. Even if they're been done to death. And 'cute person is underestimated and then kicks ass' is one of those classics that never gets old for me. Along with 'cuteness somehow amplifies intimidation'. This further ensures that such things occur.
I just don't consider the doll-like traits she wants Melia to take on as particularly like Melia herself or human. She also distinctly wants her to appeal to this culture's standards, just has a limit on just how much she can get rid of muscles/calluses/etc without being able to compensate with her magic.
You're really focused on the idea that it'll make Melia look like a doll, aren't ya? Honestly, speaking, reducing scars and calluses is, as Delight mentions, fairly universal. And she's not planning on turning Melia's arms into sticks.

I'm also not sure where you're getting the idea that this is purely to fit the standards of this society, either. Her throw-away references to taking things too far, I guess. Thing is, every change she mentions is also logically justified (weak tends to imply helplessness, so muscles are a problem, etc.). So I don't agree that she's trying to do that.

Honestly, I think it comes down to a difference of opinion on what the end result will look like. V and I seem to be thinking 'cute, but not clearly unnatural (and obviously Melia). You seem to be leaning towards 'unnatural'.
Anyone got any opinions on that weird vision? It looks like it got swept away by everything that happened afterwards.

Referring to themselves as their text color is a mixture of weird and cute. I can't decide if it makes me want to stay the hell away from picking up any headvoices ever.
Think I had some in the beta thread.

Edit: ...Apparently not.
It seemed to be a memory of Delight's former host. Not sure if that's the High Priestess or what frankly.
Unlikely. Delight had no idea about Drifters, before us. Also, I doubt she'd agree to go by Red, and she also knows the lyrics to 'Unwell', apparently. Personality is a bit off, too.
 
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Personally I accept that this isn't going to cause dysphoria or weirdness or whatever, I just don't think Melia's the type of character who's better off with people going "awww, isn't she just a DOLL!" every time they see her... forever.

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Plus a lot of Delight's ideas seem to revolve very heavily around local standards of beauty and some have unfortunate undertones. Like, 'ick, those muscles make you look like a peasant, you're a magician so why would you need muscle?' Gee, Delight, physical fitness isn't exactly shameful.

Or 'your elbows and knees are far too bony and gawky.' Well gee, Delight, she's what, sixteen? Gawkiness goes with the territory.

I just feel wrong about the idea of turning Melia into some fixed image of beauty, be it romantic beauty or doll-like beauty.
 
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I'd expect a fairly contemporary response to 'cuteness' because we are contemporary questers who are playing with a contemporary QM,
*cheerful humming*

This is not a safe assumption. Fortunately, the second half of your sentence seemed to catch that.
but while 'cute' is a universal aesthetic in a sense, it's importance in a culture and the response it elicits realistically should be far from universal.
 
Yeesh. I don't think Delight would turn Melia into some kind of doll-like template, but I do think that her pride in 'fleshsculpting' and her general preferred modus operandi could bite us in the ass more than people think.

She was pretty clearly gleeful at the idea of starting some kind of feud among nobles over our hand in marriage and throwing the local court into chaos before skipping town and leaving the land with said frayed tempers in disrepair- that's the kind of thing she views as a reasonable and desirable course of action. What amounts to a con game.

So yeah, I don't think Delight's a terrible demon, but I do think she gives few fucks for anyone but herself and her host, and she tends to see the body as a weapon used in a con game. That could be problematic because in a con game seduction and underestimation are huge advantages- so while I'm sure Melia won't make us into a doll, I do think if we ask for it she will give Melia an appearance that is very good at being either seductive or underestimated.

So yeah, in terms of 'will people ignore the scary elementals and our demonstrated competence and STIILL underestimate us with the cute option' I'm thinking signs point to HELL YES. Because from Delight's POV, that's the point.
 
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Okay, I apparently didn't really analyze the vision initially in beta thread. For this act of negligence, spawned by Alivaril's phone's autocorrupt and my attempts at copy editing or not, my Code of Nerd Bushido states I must commit sudoku.

Before I submit myself to my fate, though, I should probably give my thoughts on the vision.

First thing I want get out of the way is that this is VERY unlikely to be linked to Delight. This is almost certainly a vision of someone who hasn't even ever been to Delight's world. Notice that the world she was on was either very high-magic, or very high-tech. Or a mix of the two. I lean towards the latter, based on the skin-tight jumpsuits. Could be spacer's togs, or something of the like. The description of something like anti-gravity or artificial gravity fits with this idea.

Point is, the tech level is off for anyplace Delight is familiar with. Delight also didn't seem to know about our Talent, inadvertently shorted out our translation, and uses native terminology, something I find out-of-place if she was originally from another world (remember, the girl in the vision had been stranded on an unknown world).

It would also be a hugely unlikely coincidence for the girl to go from one world, to one with a magic system nearly identical to her home. For there to be others of Delight's kind here, there must be a similar system in her home world. And, so far, magic systems have varied significantly from world-to-world.

As for the vision, I'm actually a lot more interested in why and how we got a look at what looks like another world. Why did we have it from stepping on that ant? How did we manage to break the crystal if we were in the middle of getting to it when we stepped on the ant? Were we possessed by the same force behind the ants? If so...that opens up SO many other questions. For the sake of brevity, I'll stop there.

From the looks of things, there's a girl with voices in her head (demons?), who may or may not be the same thing as them (one of the voices calls the main voice 'White'). They seem to have been stranded by someone like us, on a world with much more advanced tech (or maybe magic) than their home. And may, or may not, be going insane, and fragmenting her mind to have someone to talk to.

Also, one of her voices knows 'Unwell' by Matchbox Twenty. Props to Alivaril for getting me to listen to a song I heard ages ago. My brother liked it enough to get it on iTunes, something I am very happy about, since we share purchases. So...Earth-like world confirmed? I dunno. It was a throw-away joke.

I'm inclined to try and find her, honestly. She could be an interesting source of information, even if she doesn't want to travel with us, which I wouldn't blame her for.
Personally I accept that this isn't going to cause dysphoria or weirdness or whatever, I just don't think Melia's the type of character who's better off with people going "awww, isn't she just a DOLL!" every time they see her... forever.

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Plus a lot of Delight's ideas seem to revolve very heavily around local standards of beauty and some have unfortunate undertones. Like, 'ick, those muscles make you look like a peasant, you're a magician so why would you need muscle?' Gee, Delight, physical fitness isn't exactly shameful.

Or 'your elbows and knees are far too bony and gawky.' Well gee, Delight, she's what, sixteen? Gawkiness goes with the territory.

I just feel wrong about the idea of turning Melia into some fixed image of beauty, be it romantic beauty or doll-like beauty.
Why do people keep making this assumption, about local beauty standards? Obvious muscles make it harder to look vulnerable. Knees and elbows may also have some impact on pulling off the look, if pronounced enough. Nothing she suggests seem to be inspired purely by local standards, without a shred of logic behind it.

Honestly, it seems more like something meant to be customized to Melia herself, and not something cookie-cutter, to me. Avoiding that is a major point of pride to Delight.
Yeesh. I don't think Delight would turn Melia into some kind of doll-like template, but I do think that her pride in 'fleshsculpting' and her general preferred modus operandi could bite us in the ass. She was pretty clearly gleeful at the idea of starting some kind of feud among nobles over our hand in marriage and throwing the local court into chaos before skipping town and leaving the land with said frayed tempers in disrepair- that's the kind of thing she views as a reasonable and desirable course of action. What amounts to a con game.

So yeah, I don't think Delight's a terrible demon, but I do think she gives few fucks for anyone but herself and her host, and she tends to see the body as a weapon used in a con game. That could be problematic because in a con game seduction and underestimation are huge advantages- so while I'm sure Melia won't make us into a doll, I do think if we ask for it she will give Melia an appearance that is very good at being either seductive or underestimated.
The latter works for me. All the better to kick their asses. When it comes to combat/warfare, if you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough.
 
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You're really focused on the idea that it'll make Melia look like a doll, aren't ya? Honestly, speaking, reducing scars and calluses is, as Delight mentions, fairly universal. And she's not planning on turning Melia's arms into sticks

In most societies with disfiguring scars, sure. Little miscellaneous scars that tell a story and aren't really ugly, not something most people dislike or hate and it's something many appreciate. Calluses on the otherhand, are definitely appreciated in many circles with music/craftsmanship/fighting/etc... and whilst it wouldn't be particularly attractive to most of them it definitely wouldn't put them off and they would respect them. Helpful too, if Delight's magical transformation wasn't offsetting the cost of getting rid of them.

Also, Delight clearly talks about getting rid of her muscle to more approach a noble lady's whilst magically retaining her strength. Even if she talks about how she doesn't want her to get so anorexic she'd blow over, the societal values of Delight's skinny>athletic is definitely not universal or even one that Melia should hold.

I also don't like how she's just tweaking everything else about Melia to more fit her ideal.

With all that said, if you just want an adorable Melia to get adorable benefits go for it. If Melia decides she wants that body, I'm giving Melia credit in assuming she's not abandoning a body she prefers for one just to pander to others and she would actually want said body if we voted for it. Personally, I don't want her to rely on being adorable at sixteen.
 
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Why do people keep making this assumption, about local beauty standards? Obvious muscles make it harder to look vulnerable. Knees and elbows may also have some impact on pulling off the look, if pronounced enough. Nothing she suggests seem to be inspired purely by local standards, without a shred of logic behind it.
Specifically, she doesn't talk about this in relation to choosing 'cute' or 'beautiful'. It's about a suitable look for an 'Arcane'. The problem here is she discusses a variety of things, some universal, some incorporating healthy benefits and some entirely cosmetic, so it can be really difficult to separate. But the muscles? That is without a doubt a local beauty standard thing.
 
Specifically, she doesn't talk about this in relation to choosing 'cute' or 'beautiful'. It's about a suitable look for an 'Arcane'. The problem here is she discusses a variety of things, some universal, some incorporating healthy benefits and some entirely cosmetic, so it can be really difficult to separate. But the muscles? That is without a doubt a local beauty standard thing.
Not purely. There's logic there, too. It would detract from the effect. I've outlined why before.
Looking more vulnerable is of benefit, for convining others that we're less dangerous than we are. Seems fairly logical to me. I'm a hell of lot less likely to assume a girl who looks to have never handled a knife in her life is going to kick my ass, than a girl who actually looks like she's worked.
Honestly? I suspect Delight is babbling, a little, while she works. It might be a habit, a sales pitch she's had to make multiple times, and thus goes through while on auto-pilot, and in a similar situation. I've had a doctor do that, only to have to ocassionally correct his spiel for me not having quite the same issues as his other patients. It's not hard to end up with a habitual patter, if you deal with enough people asking for similar things.
 
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Hmm... Cute looks like it's gonna win, even though I don't want it to. But if Cute is gonna win, then I'd really prefer getting Sonic Amulet to Magic Stealth. Wondering if I should switch my vote now...
 
Despite all that, a painful and disruptive event demands your attention instead. If you had to pick a single one to eliminate, there wouldn't be a real competition.

"Could you kill the bleeding?"

"The bleedi—"

Delight's jaws click shut.

"Ah. Yes, although the changes aren't easily reversed—in terms of skill, not time—and you'd be completely incapable of having children for the duration. However, it is a cheap enough change I'd be willing to eliminate it without impacting our debt balance in either direction. I'll do such if you so desire."

You nod vigorously. Even if you don't get anything else good out of freeing Delight, that alone would make it worth it. Even your need for sleep isn't as awful.

"It's evil. Evil, evil, evil."
Just to check, this is a permanent until undone sterilization right? No other side effects?
And apparently a difficult technique, so does that mean to get it undone we more or less have to come back here?

Not important to the quest(since we aren't going there), but probably something worth verifying IC.
 
Oh, I should actually vote.

[X] Magical Failsafes.
[X] Poison Immunity.

Poison Immunity is just going to be useful, wherever we go. Magical Failsafes seems interesting, and the principles should be useful (training in precautionary measures before playing around with new magic), even if the spellcasting may not be universally useful. I've already stated my reasons for avoiding the various appearance changes.

Not purely. There's logic there, too. It would detract from the effect. I've outlined why before.
I'm aware there's logic in it, but in everything else she says she generally gives a specific reason. We'll have to agree to disagree on this, I expect.
Honestly? I suspect Delight is babbling, a little, while she works. It might be a habit, a sales pitch she's had to make multiple times, and thus goes through while on auto-pilot, and in a similar situation. I've had a doctor do that, only to have to ocassionally correct his spiel for me not having quite the same issues as his other patients. It's not hard to end up with a habitual patter, if you deal with enough people asking for similar things.
Possibly, though she seems to be giving a spiel to Melia at the same time. Maybe she switches between the two?
 
@Alivaril : Quick check, how long do you plan to leave the vote open? Just so I know how long I have before I switch my vote, if I want to switch.
 
TBH I greatly prefer Beauty to Cute, but I'd rather talk Delight into working out a Muscle Wizard Witch option. Just because you can bend reality with your mind doesn't mean you can get away with skipping Arm, Leg, and Cardio Days.
 
Hmm... Cute looks like it's gonna win, even though I don't want it to. But if Cute is gonna win, then I'd really prefer getting Sonic Amulet to Magic Stealth. Wondering if I should switch my vote now...
Eh. The Sonic Amulet is a bit meh. I'm not sure if it would, for example, majorly harm a mutated organism from our original home. It's probably rated for normal, non-magically durable organisms.
I'm aware there's logic in it, but in everything else she says she generally gives a specific reason. We'll have to agree to disagree on this, I expect.
Fair enough.
Possibly, though she seems to be giving a spiel to Melia at the same time. Maybe she switches between the two?
I've heard public speakers/debaters slip phrases they've used often in other such events seemlessly into their speech. I would guess it's a similar, 'if-then' sort of thing, assuming an accurate premise. She's talking while really looking at Melia's body and figuring out what would be best, and ocassionally using habitual filler while she tackles the problem.
 
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