Winter is Coming: House Stark Quest

On the other hand, part of the horn's legend is that it was blown after the Wall was up, and the Wall didn't fall:


So, the Wildlings think it makes the Wall fall, despite it allegedly being blown before and the Wall not falling...

It worked in Bobby B Quest. That doesn't guarantee it will here, or that they even have it, but it's a risk.
 
I changed and added a bit about the free cities.

Still need Pentos and Volantis.

As for aid to the North, I added the line 'If no word comes you'll prepare a force, regardless.' But I think I should define that with a number. 10,000 ought to be fine. Though on the chance the Wall comes down I might be more comfortable with 15-20,000 so long as they're supplied.

Thoughts?
 
I changed and added a bit about the free cities.

Still need Pentos and Volantis.

As for aid to the North, I added the line 'If no word comes you'll prepare a force, regardless.' But I think I should define that with a number. 10,000 ought to be fine. Though on the chance the Wall comes down I might be more comfortable with 15-20,000 so long as they're supplied.

Thoughts?
---[] Braavos, Lorath, Norvos: Slavery is an abomination.

I think Norvos has slaves. So you might want to correct that.
 
I think Norvos has slaves. So you might want to correct that.

Fixed.

So that leaves Norvos, Volantis, and Pentos then.

And still not sure if I should specify numbers sent if there is no response from Ned.

Edit: actually...what could work is leaving about 15 to 20 thousand in the Northern Riverlands while the rest go for the Hunt for Aegon or to Storm's End.

The Northern Riverlands force would be in a position to go North faster depending on Ned's response (or worrying lack of one)
 
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Spudman, why not send a contingent of Knights? (Southern of course, because the Dawnguard need to remain with Robb.) The North can't supply a great host larger than 18 to 28 thousand, and against a host that's got the ceiling of being less than 100'000 but large enough to make the Wall meaningless (Perhaps the Winter's Horn as everyone's been saying or just a assortment of crazy shit like an alliance of Giants.) I'd imagine that companies of Foot would only make so much of a difference, but Knights (The mounted variety) can cut through larger bodies of men, especially if they have no Calvary or pike-men with more 'ease' while not requiring as much food.
 
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Spudman, why not send a contingent of Knights? (Southern of course, because the Dawnguard need to remain with Robb.) The North can't supply a great host larger than 18 to 28 thousand, and against a host that's got the ceiling of being less than 100'000 but large enough to make the Wall meaningless (Perhaps the Winter's Horn as everyone's been saying or just a assortment of crazy shit like an alliance of Giants.) I'd imagine that companies of Foot would only make so much of a difference, but Knights (The mounted variety) can cut through larger bodies of men, especially if they have no Calvary or pike-men with more 'ease' while not requiring as much food.

I was going with the assumption they could use both extra foot and cavalry. There would be cavalry with whatever foot we sent, in proportion to the cavalry:foot ratio for our main army.

We certainly have foot to spare, I'm sure. How much cavalry do we have/could spare, realistically?
 
Just send ships bursting with food and supplies up North. I think they would rather have that then more mouths to feed.
 
Just send ships bursting with food and supplies up North. I think they would rather have that then more mouths to feed.

We don't know what they need right now. Ned not sending any word at all is worrying.

So ships of supplies are a good idea. But leaving a force of cavalry and some foot ready to go in the Northern Riverlands (rather than from Dragonstone or Storm's End) could make a difference.
 
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We don't know what they need right now. Ned not sending any word at all is worrying.

So ships of supplies are a good idea. But leaving a force of cavalry and some foot ready to go in the Northern Riverlands (rather than from Dragonstone or Storm's End) could make a difference.
Sounds good to me then.

[X] Plan spudman
 
[X] Plan Protector of the Realm
[] Make for Storm's End. You cannot lose the Baratheons or their claim.
-[] You will not forget the North. Leave a fully supplied force of 15,000 of foot and cavalry in the northern Riverlands. Send ravens to your father and the Watch. What aid should we send to help: additional foot, cavalry, supplies? Prepare and send what aid is requested. Those 15,000 will be sent with all due haste if no response is received.
-[] Dragonstone will be the primary naval staging point for the Hunt for Aegon. Practicality will likely keep the vast majority of the army nearby on the mainland, of course. This will be a joint effort between Randyll Tarly and Davos Seaworth, commanding the army and navy respectively.
-[] Send word to the Westerlands. Call for their arms, as part of the Realm, to assist in hunting down Aegon.
-[] Send envoys to the Free Cities. The main message will be that Westeros will not look kindly on those that harbor or aid the false dragon, his supporters, or anyone else that would try to usurp the throne of Westeros. Those opposed to him, either in arms or by providing information on him, will be looked on favorably as partners in future trade. Westeros would also look to work together with those it can consider friends to eliminate piracy and make trade across the Narrow Sea more profitable for all. Point out what happened the last time a dragon got a hold of the Golden Company, Tyrosh being taken and ran by sell swords. They cannot be trusted.
--[] City specific envoys:
---[] Braavos: Slavery is an abomination. As allies in the future you can work together to discourage the slave trade and the practice in general, and in doing so increase ties between Braavos and Westeros.




Ok...removed a bit of the first subvote. The reasons are still the same, if unstated, I'm just trying to cut down on the fluff a bit.

The part that matters is the 15,000 in the Riverlands to get to the North all the sooner if necessary. Didn't specify how much foot or cavalry because I don't know how much of the latter we have. Maybe 1,500?

Not quite sure about the 15,000 as opposed to ten. We'd still be well over 100k for the rest of the army, right? And that doesn't even take into account us mustering the Westerlands and Dornish...


Anyway, if Ned does request aid then up to that 15,000 can get there sooner. If more is needed, then we can prepare that as well.
 
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How large is our current army, @Charcolt ?

I figure the 15,000 to leave at the Riverlands is something we can spare easily enough. And it's not like they'd be that far away until they actually head North.
 
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How large is our current army, @Charcolt ?

I figure the 15,000 to leave at the Riverlands is something we can spare easily enough. And it's not like they'd be that far away until they actually head North.

I'm traveling so I'll post a full troop count when I get back home.

EDIT: Alright, over the course of the war you've taken minimal casualties and inflicted heavy losses on your enemies. Those same enemies are now effectively your vassals but crown authority is low and the losses hold. Loyal troops (Stark, Tully, Arryn) have taken as many as 5,000, while Dorne & the Reach are pretty damaged. The Stormlands have taken similar losses but their loyalty is only to Shireen at this time. You can afford to send men (you have 80k), but they'll need a supply train.
Adhoc vote count started by Ashmaker on Aug 19, 2017 at 1:25 AM, finished with 94 posts and 31 votes.
 
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[X] Plan Protector of the Realm
[] Make for Storm's End. You cannot lose the Baratheons or their claim.
-[] You will not forget the North. Leave a fully supplied force of 15,000 of foot and cavalry in the northern Riverlands. Send ravens to your father and the Watch. What aid should we send to help: additional foot, cavalry, supplies? Prepare and send what aid is requested. Those 15,000 will be sent with all due haste if no response is received.
-[] Dragonstone will be the primary naval staging point for the Hunt for Aegon. Practicality will likely keep the vast majority of the army nearby on the mainland, of course. This will be a joint effort between Randyll Tarly and Davos Seaworth, commanding the army and navy respectively.
-[] Send word to the Westerlands. Call for their arms, as part of the Realm, to assist in hunting down Aegon.
-[] Send envoys to the Free Cities. The main message will be that Westeros will not look kindly on those that harbor or aid the false dragon, his supporters, or anyone else that would try to usurp the throne of Westeros. Those opposed to him, either in arms or by providing information on him, will be looked on favorably as partners in future trade. Westeros would also look to work together with those it can consider friends to eliminate piracy and make trade across the Narrow Sea more profitable for all. Point out what happened the last time a dragon got a hold of the Golden Company, Tyrosh being taken and ran by sell swords. They cannot be trusted.
--[] City specific envoys:
---[] Braavos: Slavery is an abomination. As allies in the future you can work together to discourage the slave trade and the practice in general, and in doing so increase ties between Braavos and Westeros.
 
I'm traveling so I'll post a full troop count when I get back home.

EDIT: Alright, over the course of the war you've taken minimal casualties and inflicted heavy losses on your enemies. Those same enemies are now effectively your vassals but crown authority is low and the losses hold. Loyal troops (Stark, Tully, Arryn) have taken as many as 5,000, while Dorne & the Reach are pretty damaged. The Stormlands have taken similar losses but their loyalty is only to Shireen at this time. You can afford to send men (you have 80k)

Hopefully the Stormlanders will be more loyal once Robb marries Shireen.

Hmm...so not as much as I had hoped, but we can spare the men.


but they'll need a supply train.

I thought that went without saying, or at least went with the 'supplied' part. The things and people necessary for that would be reallocated from the main army since they won't need to support X amount of men once the Northern relief force splits separates from it.
 
23. Daughter of the Storm
So it came to pass that you rode for the seat of House Baratheon - and House Durrandon before them. Legend said Bran the Builder had designed Storm's End, as he had Winterfell, the Hightower, the Wall, and countless other great works across Westeros. Legends also said that some forgotten god of storms still raged against his daughter's heirs with great winds and rain.

There had been so word of the Golden Company, though the Braavosi had assured you most diplomatically that they would inform you at once should that change. From Pentos you received no answer. Any efforts to bribe merchants or employ spies of your own for information had failed.

No matter. The Targaryen was friendless (at least for now) and had fled Westeros. You would secure your hold over the continent today and in doing so begin a dynasty to last a thousand years. It was comforting to inflate the situation, to dream of a glorious future, when the truth was somewhat less riveting. You were off to marry a young, plain-faced girl so that you could steal her father's throne.

What could possibly go wrong?

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"Kneel before Her Grace Shireen of House Baratheon, First of Her Name. Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men. Lady of the Seven Kingdoms."

Stannis Baratheon's daughter was no older than Arya, yet she seemed greater than her years as she stared down at you from the throne of Storm's End. She was not a pretty girl, it was true, and likely would not be a beautiful woman. There was a certain strength to her presence, though, a sort of iron conviction.

Her eyes were like his. A piercing grey-blue that you could read no emotion in. Her hair was a cloud of raven-black, bound into a tight braid over her shoulder. And there was the greyscale, stiff and pale-grey ripples that warped her cheek and the top of her neck into something a snake's skin.

[] Kneel.
[] Bow your head.
[] Nope.

"Betrothed," she said in a voice which carried far for a girl of her age and size. Her mother was beside her, a portly and unappealing matron of House Florent with the hints of a mustache on her upper lip. Stannis had been no handsome knight like his younger brother, but you could be grateful Shireen took after her father. "We have expected you."

You nodded. "My lady." The words would not come easy. Did she see you as the Orys to her Argella? Some stranger here to wrap her in his cloak and use her name (her father's name) to rule what ought to be hers. "The parallels are somewhat obvious."

Wait, shit, was that out loud? Her lips twitched for half a moment. "Not wholly, my lord. The arms of House Baratheon - my father's men - have not yet broken faith. And I would hope they might have the decency to allow me my shift were they to turn on me. I am no ripened beauty like Argilac's daughter."

You opened your mouth, then thought better and stifled the nonsense that came so quickly to your tongue. This was no younger sister to trade japes and jabs with.

In the silence you took the opportunity to examine the room. Many of the men here had come from Dragonstone - replacing the Renly loyalists that Stannis had viewed as traitors. Ser Davos was there at her side - you had recieved word from King's Landing (or its ruins) as you rode that he had departed upon Stannis' death leaving another to govern the refugees. His jaw was tight but he offered you an acknowledging nod.

One of Shireen's hands rose up and began to squeeze absently at her braid. "You have put us in a difficult position, Lord Stark." Her other hand waved dismissively at your half-formed apology. "What is done cannot be undone. I am too young to bed. Three, four years and none would question our right to share and govern the Seven Kingdoms. Would that we had more time." Her fingers were tighter now, such that she might have pulled out a clump of those raven black strands. "The bedding will have to wait. The ceremony can not."

She rose and stepped down from her seat, approaching you. Stannis had towered above you - and King Robert had been ever taller. Shireen was not a tall girl, but perhaps she would grow into her height. Perhaps you would grow to fall in love with her as father and mother had. Or perhaps not.

But your marriage would keep Westeros safe. It would keep the peace and allow countless others to find love and joy in their marriages and children. Perhaps that was enough.

[] Which kingdom's resources and men will you send North and which will you keep in the South? What is your plan and strategy for addressing the wildling incursion and Targaryen pretender? The next update will switch to another Stark's POV. Write-In!
Adhoc vote count started by Charcolt on Aug 20, 2017 at 6:59 PM, finished with 104 posts and 33 votes.
 
[X] Bow your head.
[X] Send North 10,000 men of the Westerlands under a lord recommended by Tyrion Lannister for his loyalty and military acumen (Crakehall? Daven Lannister?). Send North 10,000 men of the Reach under a lord recommended by Randyll Tarly for his loyalty and military acumen. Send North 10,000 men of the Stormlands under a lord recommended by Davos Seaworth for his loyalty and military acumen. Send 250 men with Greatjon Umber who is to command the entire force. Have their lords order them to follow the Greatjon's commands until they reach North, and upon joining with your father, follow Lord Stark's commands. There are reports of a huge wildling army coming to cross the Wall; their mission is to stop them. All the while, advise the Greatjon to be wary of the Golden Company landing on the east coast and the Ironborn attacking the west coast.
10,000 men of the Westerlands should keep watch on their western coast in expectation of a possible Ironborn assault. 10,000 men of the Reach should keep watch on their western coast in expectation of a possible Ironborn assault. 10,000 men of the Stormlands should keep watch on their eastern coast in expectation of a possible landing by the Golden Company. In case of a large force landing, they are not to engage, but rather immediately send out ravens with warnings, and attempt to regroup and slowly withdraw until a force with an experienced commander joins them, so that they outnumber the attackers 2 to 1.
All other soldiers of these realms should stand down, return to their homes, fields and castles, and focus on bringing in the harvest. The North/Riverlands/Vale force will remains with us, until we have definitve word on the intentions and place of both the Ironborn and the Golden Company.


As for why we should bow out head? I'm not going to go all Philip and Elizabeth here; I'm willing to compromise. We're not her subject, but we do offer her respect and the chance for a true partnership.
 
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