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Winter is Coming: House Stark Quest

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I'm not going to lay blame on anyone or say I told you so for things going poorly with the attack, because nat 1's happen sometimes and nobody could have predicted that.

But I will say I told you all so about the truce meeting giving us options and more information about the situation, and that it wouldn't have cost us much of anything.

Those opportunities and information were lost by an overly hasty desire for violent action.
 
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[x] Make for Dragonstone. Shireen can wait, and you wish to personally oversee the hunt for Aegon.

Bring his head to Shireen as a wedding gift
 
Charcolt said:
As an aside, this meeting would not have been a trap or legitimized him and his claim, and would cost nothing beyond adding a few new choices and learning more about the situation. Choosing to indulge your murder boner, however, occasionally has unforeseen consequences. Onward, ho!
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People acted like Martells by letting their murderboners think for them and they deserved humiliating failure for it. I just hope that a lesson will be learned from this.

[X] Make for Storm's End. You cannot lose the Baratheons or their claim.

Let's see if someone comes up with a good write-in first.
 
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Guys...how about we take some time to consider a write-in before voting willy nilly?

For example, perhaps Shireen could be sent to meet Robb as he makes for the North?

Though I'm hesitant to put her on a ship anywhere while we don't know where Aegon or the Iron Fleet are. Travel by land might be safer.
 
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[X] Make for Storm's End. You cannot lose the Baratheons or their claim.

Well. That escalated quickly. I've never actually had a nat 1 happen in a quest I've participated in, that was detrimental to the player character and not an opponent. Huh, so that's what that feels like.
 
@Charcolt

You mentioned possible envoys to the Free Cities in the update. Is that something that will happen regardless of choice, or will only happen if we stay in the South (or include it in a write-in)?

Or is it something for another update/choice, regardless of choice/write-in this time?

Also, we know Shireen is at Storm's End right now, but where is Robb exactly?
 
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@Charcolt

You mentioned possible envoys to the Free Cities in the update. Is that something that will happen regardless of choice, or will only happen if we stay in the South (or include it in a write-in)?

Or is it something for another update/choice, regardless of choice/write-in this time?

Also, we know Shireen is at Storm's End right now, but where is Robb exactly?
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Robb is in the northern Riverlands, on the eastern coast. It'll happen automatically, but anything more complex requires a write in subvote!
 
Please stop voting for at least a bit.

Let's DISCUSS options before jumping into anything.


I had a few other thoughts besides the questions I just posted.


One option could be Robb going North, and having Shireen sent for to catch up. Preferably over land because with Aegon and the Iron Fleet about I'm not sure about sea travel.


Or...Robb goes to Storm's End, and he could send some troops North under a trusted leader. I don't want to weaken Robb's base of his strongest supporters in the South (Northmen, Riverlanders, Valemen) too much...but Northmen would be more effective fighting in the North.


So if we do send reinforcements North without Robb, maybe some Northmen and Reachmen or Stormlanders? Dornish?
 
[X] Make for Dragonstone. Shireen can ride up there for the marriage while you oversee the hunt for Aegon.

We need to focus on this instead of the North if we want to keep the Seven kingdoms together. Maybe since we have enough men we can send the Northerners back to help Ned fight off the wildlings?
 
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Robb is in the northern Riverlands, on the eastern coast. It'll happen automatically, but anything more complex requires a write in subvote!
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Whoops, my last post was ninja'd by the QM somewhat.

I thought so, but the confirmation is appreciated. Thanks, charcolt

Hmm...anything more complex...We do know Illyrio Mopatis is behind Aegon. We could reach out to his rivals in Pentos, perhaps. We could also appeal to the Braavosi on making sure the false dragon that is backed up by the cheese monger doesn't take the throne. Do they really want Westeros to be indebted to or be friendly with Pentos?

Not sure about approaches for the other cities.


We can't let the North and their partially depleted levies face the wildlings on their own. There aren't any Others to worry about on that front but there could still could be a shit ton of wildlings and the Iron Fleet is as likely to show up there as anywhere else.


But we also can't ignore the South and the only Hand I'd trust to leave it to is Davos.


Right now I'm thinking have Shireen sent for and meet somewhere in the middle. Storm's End isn't even a great location to lead the Seven Kingdoms from. Harrenhal is central, but that shit is cursed. No thanks. If she does travel it should be by land.

As for helping the North, I'm thinking a contingent of Northmen, led by the Greatjon or Karstark, and Stormlanders should start heading North.


I do have a write-in percolating, but before I post it I'm asking for ideas and thoughts on what I mentioned so far.
 
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@Charcolt, you said we're at the eastern coast in the northern Riverlands.

I'm not sure how reliable this map is....but does that mean we're all the way up at the Bite (the northeast corner of the Riverlands)?

It has to be...the only other east coast location in the Riverlands seems to be Saltpans, which is on the southern end.
 
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[X]Plan the sword at our front the knife at our back.

See, we have three mighty opponents, namely the Seven Kingdoms (all around us, and set to fracture if we don't bind them.), the Dragons (who have apparently left for the free cities.) and the Wildlings (who have a great host of 100 thousand, and a tool to remove the wall, I'm guessing the winters horn.)

The wildlings threaten the North, and perhaps our biggest support base...Not including our family, The Seven Kingdoms are only loosly united, with the Ironborn reaving, the Westerlands under the rule of the half man, the Vale recovering from the machinations of Little finger but tied to us by blood, the Riverlands devastated but under our control, the Stormlands feeling resentful towards us for taking their crown, and the south (reach and dorn) held by conquest and great armies.

There's no point dealing with the man welding a sword, if we get stabbed in the back so I purpose we deal with all three.

-[] Send a raven to the Ironborn, especially Asha Greyjoy because her father has a hate boner for the Starks but she seems more pragmatic, with promises of wealth and power, similar to Randall Traly in exchange for searching and hunting for the Dragons fleet. (Plus with the threat of a Royal Navy and Greyjoy fleet savaging the free cities I think they might just talk, even if its only trade we destroy.)
-[] Order the Royal / Stormland / White harbour Navy to protect the east coast. (Which should help stop us from being ganked in the back by the dragons as we march north.)
-[] Send a raven to the Free Cities explaining the cost of harbouring traitors, and the rewards for turning them over.
-[]Call princess Shireen Baratheon to your great host. (For the wedding, and keeping the Seven Kingdoms together.)
-[] Keep a detachment of your army south, under the command of Randall Traly. (Should the Dragons get through the naval blockade, or the southern lords get uppity.)
-[] March North to deal with the Wildlings.

Only thing I'm not certain about is if the wedding should be at winterfell, or on the way to the north. And whether we should call upon the Westerlands, and Dorn for Soldiers.
 
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Subject to change depending on exactly where we are.


[] Make for Dragonstone. Shireen can ride up there for the marriage while you oversee the hunt for Aegon.
-[] You will not leave any of the Seven Kingdoms undefended if you can help it, for a threat to one is a threat to all. You will send a force of 30,000 North to aid against the Wildlings. This force will include men from all the kingdoms that are currently a part of your armies. It will be under the command of the Greatjon. Dorne will be expected to contribute to the cause once Arianne Martell 'retires' her father.
-[] Send envoys to the Free Cities. The main message will be that Westeros will not look kindly on those that harbor or aid the false dragon, his supporters, or anyone else that would try to usurp the throne of Westeros. Those opposed to him, either in arms or by providing information on him, will be looked on favorably as partners in future trade.
--[] City specific envoys:
---[] Braavos: appeal to their rivalry with the 'free' cities that support slavery. Aegon is backed by powerful forces in the other free cities. Probably by their rivals, and those that support slavery (open slavery, or slavery in all but name) at that. If Aegon took the throne the rivals of Braavos would have Westeros in their pocket.


Dragonstone is closer and unless we keep up or pursuit of Aegon he'll come back stronger. But having Shireen ride up there at least ensures the marriage will go off and we keep the Baratheons in camp.

And there is some symbolism in Robb's reign being cemented at Dragonstone. Though there is symbolism in it being done at Storm's End as well.

I figured I should at least get a plan out there.

Keep in mind this is subject to revision. Not just depending on location. I realized Robb wouldn't know Mopatis is behind F!Aegon, at least not yet I don't think.

I thought about having Tarly go North and command the force going there but I think I'd prefer him to stay South, but I could be persuaded otherwise. I have no attachment to the Greatjon leading things, his name is more of a placeholder at the moment.

Besides that, the downside of a 'coalition' force is getting them all to fight together. But I figure they'll have plenty of time to march together first. An alternative would be some Northmen/Stormlanders/Reachmen or something like that. I'm open to ideas there too.

As for Pentos and the other Free Cities...I confess, I don't have arguments in mind for them in particular. Thoughts?
 
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Oirbse said:
[X]Plan the sword at our front the knife at our back.

See, we have three mighty opponents, namely the Seven Kingdoms (all around us, and set to fracture if we don't bind them.), the Dragons (who have apparently left for the free cities.) and the Wildlings (who have a great host of 100 thousand, and a tool to remove the wall, I'm guessing the winters horn.)

The wildlings threaten the North, and perhaps our biggest support base...Not including our family, The Seven Kingdoms are only loosly united, with the Ironborn reaving, the Westerlands under the rule of the half man, the Vale recovering from the machinations of Little finger but tied to us by blood, the Riverlands devastated but under our control, the Stormlands feeling resentful towards us for taking their crown, and the south (reach and dorn) held by conquest and great armies.

There's no point dealing with the man welding a sword, if we get stabbed in the back so I purpose we deal with all three.

-[] Send a raven to the Ironborn, especially Asha Greyjoy because her father has a hate boner for the Starks but she seems more pragmatic, with promises of wealth and power, similar to Randal Traly in exchange for searching and hunting for the Dragons fleet. (Plus with the threat of a Royal Navy and Greyjoy fleet savaging the free cities I think they might just talk, even if its only trade we destroy.)
-[] Order the Royal / Stormland / White harbour Navy to protect the east coast. (Which should help stop us from being ganked in the back by the dragons as we march north.)
-[] Send a raven to the Free Cities explaining the cost of harbouring traitors, and the rewards for turning them over.
-[]Call princess Shireen Baratheon to your great host. (For the wedding, and keeping the Seven Kingdoms together.)
-[] Keep a detachment of your army south, under the command of Randal Traly. (Should the Dragons get through the naval blockade, or the southern lords get uppity.)
-[] March North to deal with the Wildlings.

Only thing I'm not certain about is if the wedding should be at winterfell, or on the way to the north. And whether we should call upon the Westerlands, and Dorn for Soldiers.
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The Ironborn will respond to offers of gold by reaving our lands. Iron Price and all that shit. And we don't even know where the Iron Fleet is. They could be sailing to Asshai for all we know.

His name is spelled Randall Tarly. I hate to nitpick but it's misspelled more than once.
 
95spartans said:
Couldn't shireen be intercepted and captured by Aegon on the way to dragonstone with a bad roll?
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Charcolt said she would ride to Dragonstone in the update. Now obviously she can't ride the entire way since it's an island....but I assumed that meant she would travel by land most of the way. It would be kind of hard to capture her when she's on land and they're on the ocean. She'd ride to where King's Landing was or Sharp Point, and then a brief sail (within the safety of the Royal Fleet's net) to Dragonstone from there.


But if I'm wrong, I can specify that is how she'd travel.

Another question for @Charcolt , I guess.
 
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spudman said:
@Charcolt, you said we're at the eastern coast in the northern Riverlands.

I'm not sure how reliable this map is....but does that mean we're all the way up at the Bite (the northeast corner of the Riverlands)?

It has to be...the only other east coast location in the Riverlands seems to be Saltpans, which is on the southern end.
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Northern as in north of the Trident, not near the Twins. You're near Saltpans where the Targaryens retreated to.

And Shireen would travel a bit by land (because the family is a bit cautious of entering ships near their castle nowadays) then catch a ship at the next port there, if you'd want to meet her at Dragonstone.
 
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