[X] Karak Izor
More dawi relations is good
The runes not working is either Skaven or the wutelgi is now trying something
More dawi relations is good
The runes not working is either Skaven or the wutelgi is now trying something
Return of the Skarrenawi, a Warhammer Fantasy hill dwarf clan.
- Thread starter Mayto
- Start date
- Fantasy
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Karak Hirn
MagnificentMind
To Live is to Suffer
That has a rather nasty habit of backfiring. Once they find out they've been played they might all just decide they're better off with no dawi settlement in the area. Sure they might never directly attack. But they have other ways to put on the pressure.
- Location
- Hollister
[X] Karak Izor
- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
[X] Karak Hirn
- Location
- Somewhere
[X] Karak Norn
@Mayto for Karak Izor and the Cult of Gazul, that is the quest clan that would gain political influence, and not Karak Izor gaining political influence over the quest clan?
Well, that might be taken out of the quest clan's hands. Just from the lack of anyone else they have interacted with among the humans. The Warlord does seem to be willing to allow the quest clan to be neutral, it is unknown if WIssenland, and the SIgmarites are okay with this state of affairs. Or what the situation in the Wissenland capital is like, also why is Peildorf not able to be made diplomatic contact with?
I just want to check in on the other polities in the WIssenland before they age into something the quest clan cannot interact with. Helping the Warlord with the forest clearing was mutually beneficial, and if more actions like that pop up as opportunities, helping the Warlord will be more beneficial.
Or maybe the quest clan's intent for neutality can be made more solid through diplomacy early on and will grow harder later on even if the quest clan does nothing.
Uh, no, the quest is running out of time to make diplomatic contact with the Sigmarites and WIssenland. Because each turn is a year, to profit or react to the info from making diplomatic contact with the Sigmarites and Wissenland means a need for more turns available, and not say finally doing it on Turn 9, and losing out with Turn 10, after making one more in road with the Warlord in the next six turns.
In addition, while there is evidence to support making contact with the Karaks can deliver access to the Rumor Mill, that rumor mill so far is related to the Karaks, not the human polities, or even Wissenland. The one action that would unlock the empire rumor mill, is the riverboats action, while overland trade unlocks more access to the Karaks rumor mill.
@Mayto for Karak Izor and the Cult of Gazul, that is the quest clan that would gain political influence, and not Karak Izor gaining political influence over the quest clan?
Well, that might be taken out of the quest clan's hands. Just from the lack of anyone else they have interacted with among the humans. The Warlord does seem to be willing to allow the quest clan to be neutral, it is unknown if WIssenland, and the SIgmarites are okay with this state of affairs. Or what the situation in the Wissenland capital is like, also why is Peildorf not able to be made diplomatic contact with?
I just want to check in on the other polities in the WIssenland before they age into something the quest clan cannot interact with. Helping the Warlord with the forest clearing was mutually beneficial, and if more actions like that pop up as opportunities, helping the Warlord will be more beneficial.
Or maybe the quest clan's intent for neutality can be made more solid through diplomacy early on and will grow harder later on even if the quest clan does nothing.
Uh, no, the quest is running out of time to make diplomatic contact with the Sigmarites and WIssenland. Because each turn is a year, to profit or react to the info from making diplomatic contact with the Sigmarites and Wissenland means a need for more turns available, and not say finally doing it on Turn 9, and losing out with Turn 10, after making one more in road with the Warlord in the next six turns.
In addition, while there is evidence to support making contact with the Karaks can deliver access to the Rumor Mill, that rumor mill so far is related to the Karaks, not the human polities, or even Wissenland. The one action that would unlock the empire rumor mill, is the riverboats action, while overland trade unlocks more access to the Karaks rumor mill.
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- Location
- Germany
[X] Karak Izor:
Mhm. After sleeping over it we really can get everything from Karak Hirn and Norn the normal way, even if it takes a bit longer. We don't have a true need for gunpowder right now and I'm sure Norn will accommodate us over time.
Similarly:
Only thing I'm slightly leary off is that Izor will try and exert influence if we lean too much on them, but as long as we got Norn to counterbalance them and Hirn to make us mostly indipendent of Izir tradevwise, we should be alright.
Izor gives us the best and most important benefits right now, but we have to make sure we are aware of how they operate.
Mhm. After sleeping over it we really can get everything from Karak Hirn and Norn the normal way, even if it takes a bit longer. We don't have a true need for gunpowder right now and I'm sure Norn will accommodate us over time.
Similarly:
Is essentially just us starting to trade with them. It's not like they will stop being an armored underbelly.
Only thing I'm slightly leary off is that Izor will try and exert influence if we lean too much on them, but as long as we got Norn to counterbalance them and Hirn to make us mostly indipendent of Izir tradevwise, we should be alright.
Izor gives us the best and most important benefits right now, but we have to make sure we are aware of how they operate.
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Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
- Location
- United States
Then it's a good thing I didn't say to not Diplo them for five turns. I said it isn't strictly needed right now. That means I think we can do them turn 5 or maybe 6 rather than turn 4, this isn't a binary decision where it's now or never. It's why I want to do Karak Izor for the Cult of Gazul, so we can make contact with them, then next turn we Diplo Hirn and trade food with them. From that, we will have covered all the Karak Dawi diplomacy for a little while and can then put our focus on the Umgi.
And I'm not talking about the rumor mill, I'm talking about learning about the Umgi via how the Dawi have interacted with them recently. If the Wissenlanders cheated Karak Hirn out of a bunch of gold due to the Umgi peddling faulty goods, if the Sudenland Free State have been providing Karak Izor with lumber for years but have needed protection from Izor's warriors in order to effectively keep up with the demand, if Wolfbreaker attacked a diplomatic meeting between Norn and the people of Kell, etc. Nothing that is happening currently but events in the past.
- Location
- Netherlands
Karak Izor has set itself up as a sort of 'western everpeak' for the Dawi. With it actively mediating and attempting to solve disputes between clans and guilds, sending out reckoners and offering their services.
Its mutual. They'd try to exert a bit of influence, but you'd be able to draw upon their influence to try and have things done that favor you.
Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
- Location
- United States
More importantly, will our Dawi quality-of-life be tracked?
- Location
- Netherlands
Turn by turn.
I've learned that it's better for keeping information trackable, to put the numbers in the turn posts.(See: not the results) Informationals can store fluff and the like!
Modified each full turn post
Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
- Location
- United States
If possible I'd like for you to keep a "Clan/Hold at the start" section for posterity and future comparison.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Karak Izor
[X] Karak Izor:
[X] Karak Hirn:
Love that every turn gets its own info, when I started reading on this site it was always a bit sad that I could not keep track of info the questers were talking about. Since that info was only kept in one info post that showed only the final stats of the quest.
[X] Karak Hirn:
Love that every turn gets its own info, when I started reading on this site it was always a bit sad that I could not keep track of info the questers were talking about. Since that info was only kept in one info post that showed only the final stats of the quest.
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Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
[X] Karak Izor
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
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We are also technically a small community
- Location
- A Pit Of My Own Making
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Well, Valaya practiced Polyamory...
Ah yes, the Furfoot-feet family. Odd bunch. Bit nervy, like to keep to themselves. But they have this hilarious party trick where it looks like their beards fall off, and they have to hold them on. Hilarious, gets me everytime. Very good at parties, always eat a lot. There is a lot of them too, you'd think their matriarch would be exhausted looking after all her children. But when there's trouble she bites down hard on it. Sometimes literally. As I said, odd bunch.
Anyway, they make cheese.
Nothing stronger than family... except gromil.