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Knight of Wessex (A Written World Quest)

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[X] Maybe you should be willing to take a bit of a loss today, to earn some favor here and there. Goodwill is difficult to buy, but potent armaments are a mighty offer indeed. (+2 Wealth and a Favor from a well placed buyer)

I just feel like voting for another option. Maximizing cash is good because all our Knightly Stuff is expensive, but Favors can get things Wealth can't.
 
[X] It would be better if you focused on making a useful investment first–it's often much easier to bear a small hit to your profits over time than a single large investment of coin right away. You can leverage that into further profits. (+1 Wealth per turn for 6 Turns)
 
[X] It would be better if you focused on making a useful investment first–it's often much easier to bear a small hit to your profits over time than a single large investment of coin right away. You can leverage that into further profits. (+1 Wealth per turn for 6 Turns)
 
CHANCELLERY MEDITATION?!?!?!?! FJD:LSJFSG:SLKJDF:LSJKDF:LKJSDF:KLS

[X] Maybe you should be willing to take a bit of a loss today, to earn some favor here and there. Goodwill is difficult to buy, but potent armaments are a mighty offer indeed. (+2 Wealth and a Favor from a well placed buyer)
 
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Aalis being exasperated at Audrey being her true gorilla-self is funny. But she does have a point we've been neglecting the more intellectual pursuit. And yes, Chancellery Meditation will be almost certainly pretty damn useful.

On the vote... Longer investment for bigger returns seems like the way to go. We will be most likely investing it to the land and its people, which seems like a long-term project to me.

[X] It would be better if you focused on making a useful investment first–it's often much easier to bear a small hit to your profits over time than a single large investment of coin right away. You can leverage that into further profits. (+1 Wealth per turn for 6 Turns)
 
[X] It would be better if you focused on making a useful investment first–it's often much easier to bear a small hit to your profits over time than a single large investment of coin right away. You can leverage that into further profits. (+1 Wealth per turn for 6 Turns)
 
[X] Maybe you should be willing to take a bit of a loss today, to earn some favor here and there. Goodwill is difficult to buy, but potent armaments are a mighty offer indeed. (+2 Wealth and a Favor from a well placed buyer)
 
[X] It would be better if you focused on making a useful investment first–it's often much easier to bear a small hit to your profits over time than a single large investment of coin right away. You can leverage that into further profits. (+1 Wealth per turn for 6 Turns)
 
i would personally say cloak of grandure isn't a combat meditation, it has an application in making audrey look more impressive and draw more aggro but it isn't a combat focussed meditation
 
[X] Maybe you should be willing to take a bit of a loss today, to earn some favor here and there. Goodwill is difficult to buy, but potent armaments are a mighty offer indeed. (+2 Wealth and a Favor from a well placed buyer)
 
About the "read stuff really fast" prayer, would we be able to have it sight based so we can use it to read Norse Runes at the start of a fight so we have a good idea what magic effects the enemy has, or would we need a dedicated Tactics prayer for that?
 
AeonIlluminate said:
About the "read stuff really fast" prayer, would we be able to have it sight based so we can use it to read Norse Runes at the start of a fight so we have a good idea what magic effects the enemy has, or would we need a dedicated Tactics prayer for that?
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Audrey can't read runes, only the norse can becouse of Odin.
 
Rovos said:
i would personally say cloak of grandure isn't a combat meditation, it has an application in making audrey look more impressive and draw more aggro but it isn't a combat focussed meditation
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Cloak of Grandeur is certainly not combat oriented, but it's one of only, like, two non-combat Meditations Audrey has gotten since she became a Squire.

AeonIlluminate said:
About the "read stuff really fast" prayer, would we be able to have it sight based so we can use it to read Norse Runes at the start of a fight so we have a good idea what magic effects the enemy has, or would we need a dedicated Tactics prayer for that?
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As others note, Audrey cannot read Runes. One needs to earn the right for that and then actually learn them, they are magical.
 
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[X] It would be better if you focused on making a useful investment first–it's often much easier to bear a small hit to your profits over time than a single large investment of coin right away. You can leverage that into further profits. (+1 Wealth per turn for 6 Turns)
 
Rovos said:
Audrey can't read runes, only the norse can becouse of Odin.
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I thought it was that we don't get the magic effects of Runes, as we don't have that mystical right, but they're the writing system of the Norse and there should be nothing stopping us from reading stuff like "Ragnar was here".

Just checked the character sheet, ye we can't read Norse yet, see "At Refined they speak all languages fluently and without accent and can read any that use Latin, Greek, or Hebrew scripts.", but that reads to me like its just us not having Gift of Tongues at a high enough level yet, not that we'd be unable to do so unless we got the mystical right to do so.
 
AeonIlluminate said:
I thought it was that we don't get the magic effects of Runes, as we don't have that mystical right, but they're the writing system of the Norse and there should be nothing stopping us from reading stuff like "Ragnar was here".

Just checked the character sheet, ye we can't read Norse yet, see "At Refined they speak all languages fluently and without accent and can read any that use Latin, Greek, or Hebrew scripts.", but that reads to me like its just us not having Gift of Tongues at a high enough level yet, not that we'd be unable to do so unless we got the mystical right to do so.
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This is incorrect. The ability to use Runes is earned at the same time and in the same way as the ability to learn to read them, and then you need to actually learn how to do so. Other uses for Mastered and higher Gift of Tongues are possible, but not getting access to Runes.
 
[X] It would be better if you focused on making a useful investment first–it's often much easier to bear a small hit to your profits over time than a single large investment of coin right away. You can leverage that into further profits. (+1 Wealth per turn for 6 Turns)
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A crack of a switch against the desk jolted Audrey out of her thoughts, Aalis standing ominously at the front of the room, spectacles doing the scary opaque thing again! "Take care not to let your mind wander over much, Lady Audrey" She advised, gesturing at Audrey's diptych, and the mathematical problems held within that had gone unfinished. "An active mind is a healthy one, but a focused one is a stronger one."
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"...Lady Audrey."*
 
Alectai said:
Alvis threw up his hands at Audrey's side–the Norseman had a decent head for figures at least, but between having to study English if he was going to be able to interact with anyone without Aalis or Audrey acting as an interpreter. "
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Missing a second part of this sentence i think. "Between having to study English... [and some second thing, he was having trouble learning everything or whatever]

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Audrey couldn't disagree either–she had always struggled with refining her Psyche compared to her Soma, and while she had managed to puzzle her way through training her Hama as well–she had no similar benefits with the third–and arguably most important–pillar of the Christian Soul. She had been making tremendous gains! Enough so that even with her hard work attempting to refine the Grip of Samson to a level she could use as easily as breathing, she had finally managed to meet Master Reinald's standards!
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This might just be that i'm getting a slow start to the day and my brain is a little fuzzy, but something about this paragraph reads a little weird to me?

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Audrey opened her mouth in protest–only for Aalis to silence her with a raised index finger. "And no, the Gift of Tongues does not count, everyone is taught that particular prayer as soon as they can."

"I didn't learn it!" Alvis chimes in–the traitor! The bully!
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A little confused why this interjection makes Alvis a traitor to Audrey... Aalis says that gift of tongues doesn't count because "everyone learns it", and so alvis saying he hasn't learned it reads to me as though it should be a *support* to audrey: gift of tongues isn't totally standard, so its at least a teeny bit meaningful for audrey to know it! You know, aside from the fact that he doesn't count because of being norse :p

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"Have you developed Meditations to sift through tabled ideas with spare thoughtforms? Have you discerned how to take in a missive with a touch instead of reading it? All of these may seem like trivialities–but you are a Knight–and one of the pre-eminent examples of your generation."
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So looking at next turn... we have 20 grace now, but no longer have Reinald's boost to training, so i think we've 'only' got 44 training, 4 of which must be for Light revelation stuff.

-10 for finishing up Grip
-9 for chancellery boosting Scholarship prayer Not Existing -> Refined
-3 for Reading-With-a-Touch Administration(?) prayer Not Existing -> Rough

I think these are the obvious required ones. Technically i guess chancellery boost could stop at rough, but we have shit luck with chancellery so i think most/all of us would agree that that boost would be good? So thats 21 taken, leaving 19 free and 4 for light

And then i think there was a "tell if someone is lying" prayer that got talked about before but never taken.
-3 for Lie-detecting Diplomacy(?) prayer Not Existing -> Rough
(16+4 left)

From before the tournament we have this:
Alectai said:
What she needs most of all are more non-combat options–for gathering information, and making a good impression–just fleshing out her toolkit so she has options for most expected encounters that don't involve bloodshed.
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and in general we're getting some real nice scouting bonuses lined up, so we should definitely add a couple meditations for that. I know theres discussion in thread or on the discord about specific ones, including a mention of needing ones for each sense separately, but i dont feel like looking for them right now. I think two at rough to cover different use cases would be good to start? Perhaps one for tracking signs of travel specifically and another for generic hearing boost?
Edit: ignore that second suggestion, i even remember noticing it when i first looked at the character sheet before writing this post, and then after i finished i decided to come back for a last second edit and had forgotten about it completely

-6 for getting two Scouting prayers from Not Existing -> Rough
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Then, i think a couple more administration/management focused prayers would be good, even if Aalis only mentioned a couple directly.
From the discord: (Discord - Group Chat That's All Fun & Games)
Something for deducing what the actual problems are from written reports is a valid Prayer.
It wouldn't be perfect, but reading between the lines to get actual good info is an option.
-snip discussion-
Probably separate from the 'read between the lines' option. Or at least if they were combined it'd be less effective than the version where Audrey still has to read through the full thing.
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-3 for Read Between the Lines/Problem finding Administration prayer Not Existing -> Rough
-3 for [some other administration/management prayers, we should discuss] Not Existing -> Rough

Then we've got 4 free training and 4 light training left. Maybe 4 to get Web Shape from 2->3 and then the light training on getting a utility light prayer? I'm sure theres some discussion of what sort of light prayers can be used for administration/management/diplomacy in the thread and/or discord. Then just 1 light-locked training to be put in whatever we think our next stop will be.
 
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Abby Normal said:
-9 for chancellery boosting Scholarship prayer Not Existing -> Refined
-3 for Reading-With-a-Touch Administration(?) prayer Not Existing -> Rough

I think these are the obvious required ones.
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To be clear, Aalis suggesting something does not make it a must-have by any means. She's very much a character whose advice comes from her particular perspective. Things she suggests certainly exist...whether they're the best choices is another matter entirely.

Like, listening to Reinald religiously is probably a good call. Listening to other people in the same way is not necessarily so. Which isn't to say her advice is bad in this case, just noting that things she suggests are very much not 'obviously required' and that's a bad perspective to have going forward.

Abby Normal said:
and in general we're getting some real nice scouting bonuses lined up, so we should definitely add a couple meditations for that. I know theres discussion in thread or on the discord about specific ones, including a mention of needing ones for each sense separately, but i dont feel like looking for them right now. I think two at rough to cover different use cases would be good to start?

-6 for getting two Scouting prayers from Not Existing -> Rough
(10+4 left)
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You already have one of these for Hearing at Rough though it's not very useful for a lot of the intended use cases at rough due to overstimulation. You might want to boost that one before looking for more.
 
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Abby Normal said:
Then we've got 4 free training and 4 light training left. Maybe 4 to get Web Shape from 2->3 and then the light training on getting a utility light prayer? I'm sure theres some discussion of what sort of light prayers can be used for administration/management/diplomacy in the thread and/or discord. Then just 1 light-locked training to be put in whatever we think our next stop will be.
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For the next training plan, ye I've got Web 3 slotted in, and then for Light I'm looking at the Taunt effect that has been talked over, and maybe have it also give us a defence buff. Like Cloak of Invisibility, but it has a Taunt effect instead of the invis, and it functions like a brilliant radiance that makes it hard to look at us due to us being rather bright (hence the defence boost) but it drowns out/hides the presence of our allies (for the taunt effect). I've got all 4 minimum Light training slotted at that this turn, and then next turn lob 5 at it to get it the rest of the way to Refined.
 
Alectai said:
"Have you developed Meditations to sift through tabled ideas with spare thoughtforms? Have you discerned how to take in a missive with a touch instead of reading it? All of these may seem like trivialities–but you are a Knight–and one of the pre-eminent examples of your generation."
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Well that definitely makes me look at the tournament with fresh eyes. A flaw in my rush to catch up I see. No wonder there were so few squires later in the tournament.

[X] It would be better if you focused on making a useful investment first–it's often much easier to bear a small hit to your profits over time than a single large investment of coin right away. You can leverage that into further profits. (+1 Wealth per turn for 6 Turns)
 
Axel Fones said:
Well that definitely makes me look at the tournament with fresh eyes. A flaw in my rush to catch up I see. No wonder there were so few squires later in the tournament.
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The pre-eminent thing? She's playing to Audrey's vanity a little there, probably, but Knights and Squires are not favored in the kind of fights found in that tournament, Audrey's win rate despite that is highly impressive.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
The pre-eminent thing? She's playing to Audrey's vanity a little there, probably, but Knights and Squires are not favored in the kind of fights found in that tournament, Audrey's win rate despite that is highly impressive.
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Good point.

Though I was mostly thinking about her fellow squires being more well-rounded than Audrey's Unga Bunga capabilities. But it's clearly been working out for her so far so I can't really call it a bad thing.
 
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