WARHAMMER 40,000 Genestealer Management Quest

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THE SISTERHOOD OF THE LEVITHAN
(Cycle 1, Month 4 - the Month of Gathering)


MIGHT: 2 | TREASURE: 5 | INFLUENCE: 4 | TERRITORY: 1 | SOVEREIGNTY: 4

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ASSETS
Defensive Psykers [MIGHT]: +2d to fight anyone who is using combat psykers against you.
Pleasurable Kiss [TERRITORY]: +2d to raise Sovereignty
Tunnels and Bunkers [TERRITROY]: +2d to defend if attacked (using your secret bunker)
Kelermorphs [Influence]: +2d to unconventional warfare (doing it)
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THEDIAS PRIME
Penal Colony
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KNOWN COMPANIES
Adeptus Arbites
The Priesthood of Chemistry and Orbital Dynamics
Krullz
House Pierre
House Mark
House Zav
Thedasian PDF​
 
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DecaffeinatedOwl said:
Actually, wait: Would an operation to further our control over the lackeys count as Unconventional Warfare, or an Influence op?

Because in the former case we want Shexia to act out of character to drain Sovereignty, so the lackeys are less likely to spot the op coming--but narratively, we would expect Shexia acting out of character to alert the lackeys that something is wrong, so they should be looking for what and ought be more likely to spot what was happening, not less.
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I think the sovereignty is their trust in Sheila, So probably more an influence op. Though The existence of Lackey can be useful to tag team and investigate other secret cult.
 
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UrbanAvena said:
@DragonCobolt What is the action to take if we want to know the existence of other secret cults/companies?
Also do the Lackey have some assets of their own?
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that would be gathering information!

DecaffeinatedOwl said:
Actually, wait: Would an operation to further our control over the lackeys count as Unconventional Warfare, or an Influence op?

Because in the former case we want Shexia to act out of character to drain Sovereignty, so the lackeys are less likely to spot the op coming--but narratively, we would expect Shexia acting out of character to alert the lackeys that something is wrong, so they should be looking for what and ought be more likely to spot what was happening, not less.
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That's actually a good point - but then I realized, Shexia acting out of character isn't a Sov reduction - it should trigger an internal gather information check, which if succeeded, would reveal and, thus, remove her from play (bad end.)
 
DragonCobolt said:
That's actually a good point - but then I realized, Shexia acting out of character isn't a Sov reduction - it should trigger an internal gather information check, which if succeeded, would reveal and, thus, remove her from play (bad end.)
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That certainly reduces the amount of cheese we could get up to with a sock puppet Interrogator.

So I assume it is an Unconventional Warfare action to kiss or suborn the rest of the lackies, and we'd have to build up to it by draining their Might, Influence and Sovereignty, without having Shexia act of character up until H-Hour.
 
DecaffeinatedOwl said:
That certainly reduces the amount of cheese we could get up to with a sock puppet Interrogator.

So I assume it is an Unconventional Warfare action to kiss or suborn the rest of the lackies, and we'd have to build up to it by draining their Might, Influence and Sovereignty, without having Shexia act of character up until H-Hour.
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There's two ways to do this: If you can influence the inquisitorial lackeys through influence actions and a few choice unconventional warfare corruption attacks against important people in the retinue, you can have them just peacefully merge with the cult like the Orbtz...or you can have Shexia lead them into a trap and just hammer em with the standard conquest action, but that's a lot more violent.
 
A few questions:

1. Do we still need to perform some variation of our lose trail plan for the sisterhood to return to stealth, or can threxia just say we're gone convincingly enough without requiring a roll?

2. The known companies list still has Inquisitorial Department listed, does that mean their is another cell sniffing around or is that just a typo?
 
DragonCobolt said:
that would be gathering information!

That's actually a good point - but then I realized, Shexia acting out of character isn't a Sov reduction - it should trigger an internal gather information check, which if succeeded, would reveal and, thus, remove her from play (bad end.)
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From this do I get it right that Gathering Information can be used in three way? General purpose, outward, or inward?
Also did we have degree of success in Gathering Info? As the default diff 1 mean we always succeed with any sets?
 
Legionman said:
A few questions:

1. Do we still need to perform some variation of our lose trail plan for the sisterhood to return to stealth, or can threxia just say we're gone convincingly enough without requiring a roll?

2. The known companies list still has Inquisitorial Department listed, does that mean their is another cell sniffing around or is that just a typo?
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1) you can shunt the roll to her rather than you (I.E, have her roll an influence check against a flat diff to convince her own company)

2) it's still there, it's just another name for Shexia's goons.

UrbanAvena said:
From this do I get it right that Gathering Information can be used in three way? General purpose, outward, or inward?
Also did we have degree of success in Gathering Info? As the default diff 1 mean we always succeed with any sets?
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that is correct - though I will try and give more information if the set is higher, but one way to think about it is that a diff of 1 (a success of 2x1) is enough to succeed at a "challenging" task - anything that's easier than challenging doesn't need a roll, after all!
 
Are there any nobel houses that the Sisterhood doesn't have strong hooks in? Because then we might be able to use them as a patsy to present like investigation is still ongoing as we also start turning key members.
 
DragonCobolt said:
1) you can shunt the roll to her rather than you (I.E, have her roll an influence check against a flat diff to convince her own company)

2) it's still there, it's just another name for Shexia's goons.
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1). Could we assist Shexia's roll with our own Influence op?

2). So this is, as far as we know, the only Inquistional cell on the planet.

Excellent. Just have to bump off the Astartes somehow...
 
[#] Influence Lackeys: Lose Trail
-[#] As in @10ebbor10 's draft, mostly.
-[#] Shenxia expected, and we believe the rest of the cell still expects, that the genestealer cult is collapsing, which on the ground would mean losing assets, protection contracts, shady deals. Rival gangs moving in. And wouldn't you know it, you just got a friendly rival gang.
-[#] Stage a feigned collapse, whereby the Orbtz take over what used to be cult assets.
--[#] As part of the feign create small skirmish against Skavz and mock skirmish of us vs Orbtz to really sell the Orbtz are the controller of the territory.

[#]Direct Shenxia: Influence Lackeys: Lose Trail
-[#] Direct Shenxia to--subtly!--encourage her cell to adopt the interpretation that the genestealer cult has collapsed and that they need only engage in some mop-up.
 
With an Inquisitor operation suborned from the top, the best solution would be to go hunting for chaos cults as a redirection for why they aren't finding genestealer cults. Knocking off competition which loves summoning daemons from hell is always a good idea.

The chaos cults always exist on Imperium worlds, especially this sort of hell world.
 
Yup. The inquisition can kill the top of the cult, and the genestealers can steal the common recruits.
 
Isn't the issue there that Chaos Cults are the Ordo Hereticus's purview, while hunting Genestealer cults is the Ordo Xenos's job? So that might be seen as odd and Shenxia skipping out on 'her job' to do someone else's job.
 
Chimeraguard said:
Isn't the issue there that Chaos Cults are the Ordo Hereticus's purview, while hunting Genestealer cults is the Ordo Xenos's job? So that might be seen as odd and Shenxia skipping out on 'her job' to do someone else's job.
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You just need to have her seem to find the chaos cults by accident like, "Wait, this isn't a genestealer cult, this is a chaos cult! ...oh well, start the purging!"
 
So, no matter what we choose to do, there are a couple of upgrades that'd give us a big boost to sneaky dealings in the future: Kelermorphs (+2d when rolling to perform Unconventional Warfare, but not for the escape), Active Propagandists (+2d when rolling to increase your Influence), and Pleasure Dens (-1 Difficulty to roll to improve Influence). I think we should work towards Pleasure Dens/Active Propagandists in the future, then Kelermorphs if we want to continue using Unconventional Warfare (to convert and destroy from behind the scenes, which is currently our strong-suit).

As for what we should do: I think we need to either aid Shexia or work in tandem w/ Shexia to disappear off the Inquisition's radar. The easiest way to do this is probably fold them into us combined with a roll to make it appear normal to outside observers. The benefits of this would be bumping our Sov and Might by one, while also being a much simpler roll.

Chimeraguard said:
Isn't the issue there that Chaos Cults are the Ordo Hereticus's purview, while hunting Genestealer cults is the Ordo Xenos's job? So that might be seen as odd and Shenxia skipping out on 'her job' to do someone else's job.
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Which is why we should finish off w/ an official 'check' for cultists.
 
So our current-phase wincon is to get off this shitty planet in our bioship with all of us onboard.

Well, we really need Shenxia to tell the rest the truth of normal genestealer cults so we know they are not an ally holy shit they are not an ally this is not Consume.

We need to dispose of or suborn the Astartes, preferably in a way that doesn't draw more attention ... oh, hey, you know what would be really funny? If we could get the Deathwatch and Marines Malevolent to kill each other. That would be a delight.

Xon said:
With an Inquisitor operation suborned from the top, the best solution would be to go hunting for chaos cults as a redirection for why they aren't finding genestealer cults. Knocking off competition which loves summoning daemons from hell is always a good idea.

The chaos cults always exist on Imperium worlds, especially this sort of hell world.
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Perfection.

Chaos Delenda Est.
Chimeraguard said:
Isn't the issue there that Chaos Cults are the Ordo Hereticus's purview, while hunting Genestealer cults is the Ordo Xenos's job? So that might be seen as odd and Shenxia skipping out on 'her job' to do someone else's job.
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The Ordos are specializations, and she's here and Hereticus isn't.
 
Mailstrome said:
As for what we should do: I think we need to either aid Shexia or work in tandem w/ Shexia to disappear off the Inquisition's radar. The easiest way to do this is probably fold them into us combined with a roll to make it appear normal to outside observers. The benefits of this would be bumping our Sov and Might by one, while also being a much simpler roll.
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The easiest way to do this is to not folding Lackey in but convincing them that We are no more. Folding them in require multiple prepatary action action like in quoted QM post. Their members are mostly antagonistic with us in contrast with Orbtz ambivalence.
DragonCobolt said:
There's two ways to do this: If you can influence the inquisitorial lackeys through influence actions and a few choice unconventional warfare corruption attacks against important people in the retinue, you can have them just peacefully merge with the cult like the Orbtz...or you can have Shexia lead them into a trap and just hammer em with the standard conquest action, but that's a lot more violent.
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Sisterhood:
[X] Influence Lackeys: Lose Trail
-[X] Shenxia expected, and we believe the rest of the cell still expects, that the genestealer cult is collapsing, which on the ground would mean losing assets, protection contracts, shady deals. Rival gangs moving in. And wouldn't you know it, you just got a friendly rival gang.
-[X] Stage a feigned collapse, whereby the Orbtz take over what used to be cult assets.
--[X] As part of the feign create small skirmish against Skavz and mock skirmish of us vs Orbtz to really sell the Orbtz are the controller of the territory.

Shenxia:
[X] Being Informed (Influence + Soverignty vs Diff 1)
-[X] Give all the other power players of Thedias a quick once over for sake of "making sure the genestealers hadn't corrupted any of the lower ranks." Why'll any sort depth investigation would draw too much attention and make unnecessary enemies, you can at least get an idea of both what they've up to and what their planning to accomplish in the next few months.
-[X] Also try to keep an eye out for any signs of the ruinous powers while "confirming" the sisterhood is gone. It is possible you might have missed them while pursuing your newfound allies, and it would suck to immediately get surprised by them just as you let your guard down.

I'll admit the be informed plan might be too much for one action, if so I would recommend hunting for chaos first, both because I feel the need is potentially more pressing and because the plan for it I came up with is weaker, so it will be better to have our full dice pool.
 
Legionman said:
I'll admit the be informed plan might be too much for one action, if so I would recommend hunting for chaos first, both because I feel the need is potentially more pressing and because the plan for it I came up with is weaker, so it will be better to have our full dice pool.
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Well, what your description does is add bonus dice - making it more likely that you will succeed at the roll to find chaos cultists (if any are to be found!)
 
Chimeraguard said:
Isn't the issue there that Chaos Cults are the Ordo Hereticus's purview, while hunting Genestealer cults is the Ordo Xenos's job? So that might be seen as odd and Shenxia skipping out on 'her job' to do someone else's job.
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Essentially every vaguely working IoM government faction's response to discovering a chaos cult is "purge with fire, damn the collateral damage" (frequently to the IoM's detriment), even if it isn't their primary focus. They don't call chaos forces the Archenemy for fun.
 
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