Divergent Codex: The Revised History of the First Contact War (Mass Effect)

We're going to get absolutely demolished by the Batarians at the rate this is going, missing out on so much tech. Our military vs the batarian military is going to be like iron clads going up against 1945 ships.
 
We voted for humanity to have an extra 2 centuries of development, and I really don't want this quest to devolve into "Humanity! F- Yeah!" If the QM thinks that the "ruined crater" is worth 5 DP, then it's objectively 5 times less important than the 2 extra centuries of development we already got. I don't magically think we're going to invent new tech trees out of nowhere like some people are generalizing the "ruined crater" voters, but I think it's incredibly boring having a humanity without any weaknesses or flaws. Protagonists (and in this quest, "humanity" in general is a protagonist) are interesting because they try to succeed in spite of their flaws, not because they lack any at all. (And as for the "we can just write omakes to not deal with the consequences of DP debt", I really don't think that'll work long- (or even short-)term; the QM made the Divergence Points mechanic as a balancing tool, and if the quest becomes unbalanced because of omake DP, I imagine there will start to be limits on them.)

Like I'm all for gimping humanity to help make the quest interesting but there's a difference between gimping and outright screwing us over. Our military will be so behind we'll be sitting ducks and it will be behind for a while as the chances of us getting eezo tech when our only source of contact to the rest of the galaxy is hostile slavers will make it hard to catch up.
 
Like I'm all for gimping humanity to help make the quest interesting but there's a difference between gimping and outright screwing us over. Our military will be so behind we'll be sitting ducks and it will be behind for a while as the chances of us getting eezo tech when our only source of contact to the rest of the galaxy is hostile slavers will make it hard to catch up.
There a simple answer to that, Rob and Pillage the Batarians.
 
There a simple answer to that, Rob and Pillage the Batarians.

How??? Our tech simply wont be up to match the batarians. While I'm sure the gm wont let us just get subjugated by the batarians if only for the fact that we are too big for the batarians to be capable of that we are going to go through a lot of hurt in the mean time
 
I would like to ask all the guys who are voting exclusively for the small outpost (and for the one guy voting only for a hidden military installation) to add [] …a sizable research station. as approval vote, mainly for these reasons:
  • I assume that none of you want the Crater to win, and seeing the tally only option that could realistically triumph over Crater in these 8 hours is the sizable research station.
  • For those who are worried and want to get rid of the DP ASAP, we are already getting roughly as much DP as we would have got from the crater thanks to the couple of omakes that we got this turn... So at this are consistently chipping away our debt without needing to sacrifice our tech level.
  • If the Crater option wins we are entering a war with a galactic policy that is known for pillaging and enslaving when we have a significant technological disadvantage, and that is going to be painful. Whereas the final result of the First Contact War will indeed be decided in another update via vote, I think it is worth considering that
    • If we want a swift victory, or at least the canon result (the colony is occupied, but we win on the counterattack) it will logically cost us much more DP if we are technologically inferior to the Batarians
    • Alternatively if we are willing to get a black eye from the Batarians, the amount of DP that we would gain would be significantly higher if we are peers regarding the tech level than if we are the inferior one.
[X] …a small outpost. (+2 DP)
[X] …a small outpost. (+2 DP)
[X] …a small outpost. (+2 DP)
[X] …a small outpost. (+2 DP)
[X] …a small outpost. (+2 DP)
[X] …a small outpost. (+2 DP)
[X] …a small outpost. (+2 DP)
[X] …a hidden military installation. (-10 DP)
 
How??? Our tech simply wont be up to match the batarians. While I'm sure the gm wont let us just get subjugated by the batarians if only for the fact that we are too big for the batarians to be capable of that we are going to go through a lot of hurt in the mean time
The Batarians want numbers then give them all the numbers, go 40k on them.
Isn't that why ya'll desired the best start and the biggest territory, to bleed them for Victory
 
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The Batarians want numbers then give them all the numbers, go 40k on them.
Isn't that why ya'll desired the best start and the biggest territory, to bleed them for Victory

I picked the most amount of time so humanity doesn't have to deal with an immense industrial and population disparity. Also, going full 40k on the batarians is going to mess us up killing off a whole generation young people.
 
Questers: Choses HFY and two century expansion in Turn One combined with Turn Two settlement near Batarians to fuck them up.
Also Questers: Chooses to heavily cripple humanity's tech development in a Quest with no crossover elements which will make them the Batarians bitches and enslave tens of millions.


Peeps, I implore you: if not to embrace NASA Punk and the desire to build a giant ISS, then do it to piss off Elon Musk and Principality of Zeon Fans. I beg you: vote to turn mars into a ruined crater.

What? Nobody has mentioned Gundam and I don't know why nothing on Mars is flipping the finger to Musk. Plus why would a humanity with no contact and near 300 year expansion in space not develop mega corporations and have much of the space infrastructure reliant on them?
 
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Questers: Choses HFY and two century expansion in Turn One combined with Turn Two settlement near Batarians to fuck them up.
Also Questers: Chooses to heavily cripple humanity's tech development in a Quest with no crossover elements which will make them the Batarians bitches and enslave tens of millions
Yeah, and that DP debt is definitely not going to screw us over, no siree.

Stop making shit up
 
Adhoc vote count started by Fanhunter696 on Nov 7, 2024 at 12:27 PM, finished with 150 posts and 83 votes.


We just need three more votes for canon and we'll rid ourselves of the heathenous luddites, fiscal conservatives, and NASApunk fetishists. Tens of millions will NOT be enslaved tens of millions will be FREED from the claws of the despicable slavers!
 
The Prison Planet Shanxi (Potentially Canon)

Shanxi

Overview

Shanxi is a colony of the System Alliance, strategically located near the Shanxi-Theta Relay. It is recognized as humanity's first prison planet and serves as a significant waypoint for various interstellar routes. The planet's history is marked by its transformation from a bustling trade hub to a notorious penal colony.

Historical Background

Early 22nd Century

The heyday of Shanxi occurred in the early 22nd century when it was situated on the border of human space. Its advantageous location allowed it to function as a buffer zone between established human settlements and emerging space colonies. During this period, Shanxi thrived as a commercial center, attracting traders and settlers alike. The planet's economy was bolstered by its role as a marketplace for goods and services, making it a vital link in the expanding network of human civilization in space.

Economic Decline

However, as humanity continued to advance in space exploration and colonization, Shanxi's prominence began to wane. The decline was exacerbated by the depletion of palladium mines in 2298, which had been a significant source of revenue for the planet. As the mines ran dry, the population gradually migrated to other regions in search of better opportunities, leading to a sharp decrease in economic activity.

Establishment of the Prison

In light of the escalating crime rates and the need for a secure facility to contain dangerous criminals, the government proposed the establishment of the first prison planet in the galaxy. The plan was to transform Shanxi into a penal colony, capitalizing on its central location within peaceful human territories. This proposal received approval, and the prison was officially operational by 2342.

Prison Infrastructure

The prison on Shanxi was designed to accommodate a diverse population of criminals from various interstellar nations. It featured state-of-the-art security measures, including advanced surveillance systems and fortified structures to prevent escapes. The facility was equipped to handle a wide range of offenses, from minor infractions to serious crimes, making it a comprehensive solution to the growing problem of interstellar crime.

Space Fleet and Security

To ensure the safety and security of the prison and its inhabitants, the System Alliance deployed a dedicated space fleet to patrol the surrounding areas. This fleet was tasked with monitoring for potential escape attempts, as well as deterring piracy and other criminal activities in the vicinity. The presence of the fleet served as a deterrent to would-be criminals and reinforced the perception of Shanxi as a formidable penal colony.

The fleet operated under strict protocols, conducting regular patrols and maintaining a constant watch over the prison. In addition to safeguarding the facility, the fleet also played a crucial role in transporting prisoners to and from the planet, ensuring that justice was served across the galaxy.
 
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It seems to me that this is the most compromise option if the "destroyed crater" wins. At least humanity won't lose anything important.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Fanhunter696 on Nov 7, 2024 at 12:27 PM, finished with 150 posts and 83 votes.


We just need three more votes for canon and we'll rid ourselves of the heathenous luddites, fiscal conservatives, and NASApunk fetishists. Tens of millions will NOT be enslaved tens of millions will be FREED from the claws of the despicable slavers!
I will fetishise the NASApunk all I want, thank you very much.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Fanhunter696 on Nov 7, 2024 at 12:27 PM, finished with 150 posts and 83 votes.


We just need three more votes for canon and we'll rid ourselves of the heathenous luddites, fiscal conservatives, and NASApunk fetishists. Tens of millions will NOT be enslaved tens of millions will be FREED from the claws of the despicable slavers!
The fear mongering here is wild. There are a plethora of historical examples where a tech gap has meant nothing, besides I can't imagine anything lamer than looting a dead civilization's tech in order to get ahead, have some ingenuity, some creativity.
 
Making up the idea we'll go "NASA-punk" if we get a crater based on pretty much nothing is... a thing.
Humanity will almost definitely still end up on Mass effect tech, with the relays, and Eden Prime.

We're not going to have some special tech or aesthetics, we're going to have Mass effect tech but worse.
 
Making up the idea we'll go "NASA-punk" if we get a crater based on pretty much nothing is... a thing.
Humanity will almost definitely still end up on Mass effect tech, with the relays, and Eden Prime.

We're not going to have some special tech or aesthetics, we're going to have Mass effect tech but worse.
Is this assumed certainty based on anything the QM has said?
 
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