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Terra Nullius - Free Humans in the Era Indomitus Quest

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I strongly think we should not take either spindal or hyperspace trap.

We have a resource rich homeworld so we don't, in actual fact, need a vast source of material power, and we have E-fusion which lets us do a lot of energy stuff, so neither of them initially add that much. What they do do is base our whole economy on trying to tap deep into the warp, which potentially puts us into doom 2016 mode, where we have to constantly fight demon invasions just to keep the lights on.

I think that we want to take either Void Cloudor the Gellar Iris. The enhanced Gellar is a more logical one and strategically useful, but Void Cloud gives us a huge advantage when we do actually have to deal with warfare against someone who's not us.

In terms of exiling. I think "None" is a good option as is just The Second Milieu. If we exile The Second Milieu that does mean we will have a more cruel future, but it will also be a pluralistic and democratic one built from the various other groups we've got here. It'll also be a more advanced one.

But if we want stability, then I don't really think there's any group we want to exile here. Most of them actually counter one another and I think if we're going to continue the dreams of the Second Milieu, with or without them, we should preserve them all.

Plan wise my four plans would be

[] Acceleration into Space
-[] Gellar Iris
-[] The Second Milieu

[] Acceleration into battle
-[] Void Cloud
-[] The Second Milieu

[] Dreams Exported
-[] Gellar Iris
-[] None

[] Dreams Protected
-[] Void Cloud
-[] None
 
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vsh said:
Are we? It's not stated anywhere I think but we're one of the last offshoots of DAoT which ended circa 25k, and we're on 2 our of 10 events, so should be closer to 25k than to 40k. It gets additionally clouded by warp storms and other weird time shenanigans possible.
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I think we're facing warp time.

The quest title lists us in the Era Indomintius.
 
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[ ] Gellar Iris - A novel Gellar field which uses multiple redundant emitters, potentially dozens to hundreds, to create overlapping bands of 'reality'. Field malfunctions or failures are significantly less deadly.
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hmm . . . can we strip mine some planets in the warp? or just create a massive planet eater with many Gellar irises that forces daemon worlds into normal planets that will then be broken down into materials?
 
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Hubris is a coward's word.
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[ ] Warp Spindle - Using powerful fabrication technologies and warp drive technology, the incursion of the warp into reality is 'siphoned off' into primordial matter, typically elemental hydrogen, oxygen, carbon and other 'early' stages of matter and then forged into denser and more complex atoms. It is, in the Warp or the presence of a strong Warp storm, the power to dream unlimited quantities of the native matter of the Materium into being.
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"Hello Hello, this is your captain of our glorious "SUN EATER" speaking, it seems that our calm travels through the warp has lead us to encounter a greater demon of Khorne, a Bloodthirster the size of a solar system . . . turn on the Warp Spindle Prow and set coarse 1.3 degrees to the right and 0.9 degrees upward, i want all all engines set to ramming speed Thank You. we have 5 minutes and 43 seconds until Collison, please clean up your work stations, prepare your mining equipment and get ready to board the Soon-to-be-Existing planet of random valuables, make sure your void suits are sealed and properly warded, and make sure your cables and harnesses are secure so you can get back onto the ship and not dragged away by a stray warp current, we are not sending any rescue parties to bring you back on board for i wasn't paid to do so."

so hyper space tap pulls the warp into real space as energy which require it be in in real space, but the spindle can also work in the warp, it says so in its description . . . in other words it can convert daemons(or at least what makes daemons) into materials and true death them . . . if we build it big enough, like we probably need a planet eater sized mineral extractor to true death greater daemons, but it can be done and therefore we should, we practically have infinite matter anyways by choosing Warp Spindles so why not spend the created material on a planet/star sided F.U CHAOS machine?

this is not Hubris, this is the most logical step of killing immortal, atemporal energy beings that hate us, why wouldn't we use them as fuel/materials to make more weapons that can kill them?
 
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"Hello Hello, this is your captain of our glorious "SUN EATER" speaking, it seems that our calm travels through the warp has lead us to encounter a greater demon of Khorne, a Bloodthirster the size of a solar system . . . turn on the Warp Spindle Prow and set coarse 1.3 degrees to the right and 0.9 degrees upward, i want all all engines set to ramming speed Thank You. we have 5 minutes and 43 seconds until Collison, please clean up your work stations, prepare your mining equipment and get ready to board the Soon-to-be-Existing planet of random valuables, make sure your void suits are sealed and properly warded, and make sure your cables and harnesses are secure so you can get back onto the ship and not dragged away by a stray warp current, we are not sending any rescue parties to bring you back on board for i wasn't paid to do so."

so hyper space tap pulls the warp into real space as energy which require it be in in real space, but the spindle can also work in the warp, it says so in its description . . . in other words it can convert daemons(or at least what makes daemons) into materials and true death them . . . if we build it big enough, like we probably need a planet eater sized mineral extractor to true death greater daemons, but it can be done and therefore we should, we practically have infinite matter anyways by choosing Warp Spindles so why not spend the created material on a planet/star sided F.U CHAOS machine?

this is not Hubris, this is the most logical step of killing immortal, atemporal energy beings that hate us, why wouldn't we use them as fuel/materials to make more weapons that can kill them?
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Imagine if other factions learn about this Leagues of Votan will BEG to get this Imperium will be inbetween laughting and screaming HERESY and others factions i have problems imagining this so if someone has any ideas how it would look tell
 
[] Plan The Shield of Science
-[] Gellar Iris
-[][Exiles] The Lemscolari

Reading what the Lemscolari's entry was again I figured something out. While I don't know exactly who "the Triune Deities of the Eternal Flame, the Unicorn and the Maiden-Mother" are (I suspect that they maybe the three remaining Eldar gods) the other four are almost without a doubt Chaos and we can not let that take root in our scociety. The Gellar Iris could be incredibly useful as it is essentially a super gellar field and that means safer ship travel for us, letting us go to places that would not be possible to go otherwise. However the Warp Spindle should not be under estimated ether as it allows us to slowly purify warp energy, possibly even calm warp storms.
 
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[X] Plan: Tha List & Daemon Eaters
-[X] Warp Spindle - Using powerful fabrication technologies and warp drive technology, the incursion of the warp into reality is 'siphoned off' into primordial matter, typically elemental hydrogen, oxygen, carbon and other 'early' stages of matter and then forged into denser and more complex atoms. It is, in the Warp or the presence of a strong Warp storm, the power to dream unlimited quantities of the native matter of the Materium into being.
-[X] [Founders] ALL
-[X] [Exiles] NONE

[X] Plan: Tha List & NRG
-[X] Hyperspace Tap - A reactor system that reaches into the Immaterium itself for vast and unlimited power, though it requires a dedicated Gellar field to isolate. An order of magnitude more powerful than E-Fusion.
-[X] [Founders] ALL
-[X] [Exiles] NONE

[X] Plan: Tha List & WARP Planet Mining (World Eaters real jelly)
-[X] Gellar Iris - A novel Gellar field which uses multiple redundant emitters, potentially dozens to hundreds, to create overlapping bands of 'reality'. Field malfunctions or failures are significantly less deadly.
-[X] [Founders] ALL
-[X] [Exiles] NONE

[X] Plan: Tha List & when the OORT Cloud goes PEW PEW
-[X] Void Cloud - A swarm of aerospace drones or light assault craft carrying weak but fast-cycling and multiply-redundant Void Shield emitters, launched ahead of the formation. Diffusing the firepower of their most powerful direct-fire weapons allows for rapid advance or a secure retreat.
-[X] [Founders] ALL
-[X] [Exiles] NONE

random question, is it possible to rig our nuclear water canteens into explosive ammunition? because i'm pretty sure we can have the Void Cloud shoot some sub-relativistic nukes, and use gravcraft to bend space to launch them (or just use gravity itself as a weapon), plus the heat rays
 
[X] Plan: Tha List & WARP Planet Mining (World Eaters real jelly)
-[X] Gellar Iris - A novel Gellar field which uses multiple redundant emitters, potentially dozens to hundreds, to create overlapping bands of 'reality'. Field malfunctions or failures are significantly less deadly.
-[X] [Founders] ALL
-[X] [Exiles] NONE
 
[X] Plan: Tha List & WARP Planet Mining (World Eaters real jelly)
-[X] Gellar Iris - A novel Gellar field which uses multiple redundant emitters, potentially dozens to hundreds, to create overlapping bands of 'reality'. Field malfunctions or failures are significantly less deadly.
-[X] [Founders] ALL
-[X] [Exiles] NONE

[X] Plan: Dealing with Future Problems
-[X] Gellar Iris - A novel Gellar field which uses multiple redundant emitters, potentially dozens to hundreds, to create overlapping bands of 'reality'. Field malfunctions or failures are significantly less deadly.
-[X] [Founders] Everyone Else
-[X] [Exiles] The Vestige Mechanica

Question is it possible to convert the Men of Iron into humans: first we get good enough at genetics that the robots get bio-upgrade, then we convince then to be more compatible with human biology. As time goes by their making new "robots" using artificial wombs.

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[X] Plan: Dealing with Future Problems Peacefully
-[X] Gellar Iris - A novel Gellar field which uses multiple redundant emitters, potentially dozens to hundreds, to create overlapping bands of 'reality'. Field malfunctions or failures are significantly less deadly.
-[X] [Founders] Everyone but The Vestige Mechanica
-[X] [Exiles] none

Thought to make a plan that deals with the Vestige Mechanica more peaceful.
 
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[X] Plan: Tha List & Daemon Eaters

[X] Plan No Ghost spindle version

[X] Plan The Shield of Science
-[X] Gellar Iris
-[X][Founders] ALL save for The Second Milieu
-[X][Exiles] None

[X] Plan Progress and Knowledge
-[X] Warp Spindle
-[X][Founders] ALL save for The Second Milieu
-[X][Exiles] None
 
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ThreeThird said:
Question is it possible to convert the Men of Iron into humans: first we get good enough at genetics that the robots get bio-upgrade, then we convince then to be more compatible with human biology. As time goes by their making new "robots" using artificial wombs.
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going to answer that with a question, can we make human brains be able to fit all the Data of an AI using only biological or biomechanical processing?
i don't mind if the AI is in the body of a 20ft tall humanoid if we need to but it might get a bit problematic if the humanoid body is measured in KM
 
[X] Plan: Iris Born
-[X] Gellar Iris - A novel Gellar field which uses multiple redundant emitters, potentially dozens to hundreds, to create overlapping bands of 'reality'. Field malfunctions or failures are significantly less deadly.
-[X] [Exile] The Heighline League

[X] Plan: Tha List & WARP Planet Mining (World Eaters real jelly)
 
Voidseer said:
[X] Plan Progress and Knowledge
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Eldar: *EXIST*
Unamed 3rd Milieu Civilian: . . . and this is soul stone, they contain you guessed it souls of a newly discovered and unseen Xenos species with a large warp presence, and the economist are saying that cracking one open near a warp spindle produces an enormous about of matter. Now the people upstairs are debating on calling their species name between Mon-ii, Ma'tor, C'shi and other dumb names. I prefer calling this unseen species Wa'Elf
 
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[X] Plan Progress and Knowledge
-[X] Warp Spindle
-[X][Founders] ALL save for The Second Milieu
-[X][Exiles] None
 
*name* said:
going to answer that with a question, can we make human brains be able to fit all the Data of an AI using only biological or biomechanical processing?
i don't mind if the AI is in the body of a 20ft tall humanoid if we need to but it might get a bit problematic if the humanoid body is measured in KM
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Not sure why you think that, Primaris Astartes are stated to have the intelligence of a supercomputer. Also what data are you thinking needs to be fit into the brain, if your thinking memory than that is just a cybernetic implant or housing it on a external server.
 
ThreeThird said:
Not sure why you think that, Primaris Astartes are stated to have the intelligence of a supercomputer. Also what data are you thinking needs to be fit into the brain, if your thinking memory than that is just a cybernetic implant or housing it on a external server.
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oh yeah forgot we live in soft sci-fi and not hard sci-fi

so we have to make custodes got it
 
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