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The Enemy Within (WHF Witch Hunter Quest)

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I thought we had a written statement of Magrius?

One implicating the entire Order?

Wouldn't that be enough reason even for a stubborn man to doubt his conclusions here?
After all if we already have a signed statement from yesterday, why would we argue with him about his lack of cooperation and then kill him today?
 
Artemis1992 said:
I thought we had a written statement of Magrius?

One implicating the entire Order?

Wouldn't that be enough reason even for a stubborn man to doubt his conclusions here?
After all if we already have a signed statement from yesterday, why would we argue with him about his lack of cooperation and then kill him today?
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Not when we are the mai nsuspect in his murder and could ahve compelled a confession at sword point. Which Markus did actually do so...
 
LilyWitch said:
Not when we are the mai nsuspect in his murder and could ahve compelled a confession at sword point. Which Markus did actually do so...
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Yeah, but we did that before.
We already had what we need, signed and with the ink dry.

The story the servant told, of us arguing with Magrius this evening and killing him, can't have happened like this, if he has been cooperating since yesterday and we already had everything we would have needed to get him before a judge anyway.
 
So the captain watch can't read the documents too did the watch man stole our proof ?

Edit: i too think it strange that we didn't mention the warehouse 13 to him that the dead wrote

And do they not know of the other temple with the demon allready so they should allready know something is not right
 
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Tensiv said:
So the captain watch can't read the documents too did the watch man stole our proof ?
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I'll quote some stuff later when I got a PC, but basically the Captain is solely in it to protect himself and his merchant patrons. It is spelled out that his first priority is to keep his cushy job.
 
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[] Attempt Persuasion

[] Die Pure

but shouldn't they allready know of other temple to dark gods and know something is off
 
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Dutch said:
Sweet. Anything in particular you want me to shy away from aside from the last chapter and the other modules?
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Whatever you like honestly, I enjoy discussing the base material and how I've tweaked things.

Artemis1992 said:
I thought we had a written statement of Magrius?

One implicating the entire Order?

Wouldn't that be enough reason even for a stubborn man to doubt his conclusions here?
After all if we already have a signed statement from yesterday, why would we argue with him about his lack of cooperation and then kill him today?
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I probably should have made this clearer in the update, in retrospect, but the issue here isn't that Goetrin is stubborn, it's that he's corrupt and not listening to reason. Markus specifically said "there's a cult that I am investigating and I have reason to believe they are the ones who killed Magirius" and Goetrin didn't ask him for evidence, he ordered him arrested.

Markus had no guarantee that the captain wouldn't just, say, sneer and tear the paper up in front of everyone as clearly being a slanderous fake.

Tensiv said:
but shouldn't they allready know of other temple to dark gods and know something is off
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How would they know? The only people Markus has told about the temple are High Priest Edel (who believes the Ordo are fundamentally benign and is telling people that this whole investigation is a politically motivated scam) and Councillor Teugen (who doesn't believe a word you say because you killed his friend in the first update).
 
If Markus survives this, I imagine that the Captain is either getting executed, or demoted back to a grunt, and the entire regiment getting rotated into either the closest thing to an active war sone, or the equivalent of a "reassigned to Antarctica" situation.

Can we have Councilor Teugen sacked and fierd from his office and force Edel into the army just for extra spite?
 
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Viking_Berzerker said:
If Markus survives this, I imagine that the Captain is either getting executed, or demoted back to a grunt, and the entire regiment getting rotated into either the closest thing to an active war sone, or the equivalent of a "reassigned to Antarctica" situation.
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True.

I cannot wait to see Markus rebuking the Captain for his stupidity and assuring him, that he will personally arrange for his transfer to latrine duty somewhere in a remote mountain post.

Provided he survives this.
 
Sad i had hoped we can rally up the watch to get reinforcement but we wouldn't have getting any even if we had sneaked away so nothing really changed
 
Tensiv said:
Sad i had hoped we can rally up the watch to get reinforcement but we wouldn't have getting any even if we had sneaked away so nothing really changed
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Not entirely true
If Markus got away from the scene of the crime then the plan was to try and secure help on his own
Probably in the form of Father Sigiwalt and his contacts in the Watch, and probably also his contacts in the less legal side of things

Being arrested meant that Markus couldn't secure any help at all, so he's on his own with the ragtag group of adventurers (minus Max)
Also, he got his equipment confiscated in lock up, so he doesn't have his pistols, silvered sword and most of his armor

Alas the dice fall where they may
 
Viking_Berzerker said:
If Markus survives this, I imagine that the Captain is either getting executed, or demoted back to a grunt, and the entire regiment getting rotated into either the closest thing to an active war sone, or the equivalent of a "reassigned to Antarctica" situation.
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On whose authority?

The town council of Bogenhafen? A majority of them are from the merchant's guild, and the head of it personally hates Markus for killing his friend. The Cult of Sigmar? High Priest Edel certainly isn't going to sign off on anything of the kind, and presumably has more allies in the higher ranks of the cult than you do. The local courts and magistrates? Goetrin's done nothing that is actually a capital crime.

Graf von Saponatheim? He'd have the authority to reassign troops and might be willing to do so, but he's also eighty miles away and generally takes a hands-off attitude towards Bogenhafen so long as the taxes keep flowing in. You'd need to go to his castle and convince him to side with you.

This is genuinely an important point to understand - the Empire is a feudal society, there is no greater government beyond the local nobles and their appointees to call upon. Your legal authority extends as far as required to conduct investigations (and bring charges in court) and no further.

This is also, incidentally, why so many Witch Hunters become not-quite-vigilantes who shoot first and whip up lynch mobs and dare anyone to object to it. It's a lot easier and in the short term a lot more effective than playing politics.
 
[X] Sneak in
[X] In Dire Necessity

Dying pure is useless if it means letting the Tzeentchian Cult do as it pleases. The claws of Chaos cut deep but they cut each other just as willingly as everything else.

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She points skyward, and you are forced to acknowledge what you were hoping to avoid. Night has fallen but darkness has not come with it, for in the sky over Bögenhafen the chaos moon has swollen to a vast and terrifying size. If you did not know it to be impossible you could almost imagine it possible to reach out and touch Morrsleib from the top of the town's highest roofs, and the pattern of shadows and lines on its broken face gives the unshakeable impression of a hungry, smiling face staring down at the streets below. Morrsleib is as a gourmand awaiting the feast, and your lives and souls mere morsels to satiate its remorseless hunger.
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I do not know what kind of sorcery a ritual of this scale can conjure, but stopping it is surely worth a soul or two.
 
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