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Super Robot Wars CS, A Quest

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afreaknamedpete said:
Strangely the bizarro magic 'can do anything' Psychoframe would gel better with Trails level tech than the whole pandora's box of Minovsky Physics. Assuming there's no Helium-3 at least the whole EM Interference aspect of Gundam tech can be more or less ignored. A Minovsky Ultracompact Fusion Reactor isn't a perpetual motion machine like Orbal Tech seems to be, though I believe it can run for arbitrarily long amounts of time without Helium-3. That can't be said for everything else from propellant to ammunition. I'm pretty sure the Nu-Gundam doesn't actually have an on board mega particle cannon, and its rifle is just a plain ol' E-cap rifle so technically the only weapon it has that can possibly function is its beamsaber and Amuro's whole newtype kung-fu thing.
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The rifle also got blown up fighting char as did all the funnels so…..
 
afreaknamedpete said:
though I believe it can run for arbitrarily long amounts of time without Helium-3
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I mean, no, because the Helium-3 is what it's using to sustain the fusion reaction. It does seem to be efficient enough that we never see anything have to actually refuel their reactors in Gundam, compared to ammunition, e-cap charge, or propellant which they definitely do. I'd personally wait to see what the options are. Orbal tech is quite literally magic, and there's a lot of mad engineers around in Western Zemuria, so we might have the opportunity to let them get Creative.
 
well i would have pick Ernie to at least add more spice into Trail Soldat mech cause really, they are kinda at the early stage of the mech game that Ernie could slide into and steer it off the cliff

but he not winning

[X] - Ange. You've lost everything before. Torn from your life in the lap of luxury as a princess, you suddenly found yourself sent to a prison island for Norma, an underclass who you once thought subhuman. Forced into the fight against fearsome dragons without training or preparation, you had to fight or die. You chose to fight, and you haven't stopped fighting since. Against the dragons, against your old family, against your psychotic comrades, against the creator of the world himself. Piloting your mysterious machine Vilkiss, you're going to survive at all costs. Anyone who gets in your way is going to regret it.
 
[X] - Ange. You've lost everything before. Torn from your life in the lap of luxury as a princess, you suddenly found yourself sent to a prison island for Norma, an underclass who you once thought subhuman. Forced into the fight against fearsome dragons without training or preparation, you had to fight or die. You chose to fight, and you haven't stopped fighting since. Against the dragons, against your old family, against your psychotic comrades, against the creator of the world himself. Piloting your mysterious machine Vilkiss, you're going to survive at all costs. Anyone who gets in your way is going to regret it.
 
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    • Scheduled vote count started by khan2012 on Nov 16, 2023 at 10:14 PM, finished with 77 posts and 32 votes.
    • [X]Amuro Ray
      [X]Ange
      [X] - Ange. You've lost everything before. Torn from your life in the lap of luxury as a princess, you suddenly found yourself sent to a prison island for Norma, an underclass who you once thought subhuman. Forced into the fight against fearsome dragons without training or preparation, you had to fight or die. You chose to fight, and you haven't stopped fighting since. Against the dragons, against your old family, against your psychotic comrades, against the creator of the world himself. Piloting your mysterious machine Vilkiss, you're going to survive at all costs. Anyone who gets in your way is going to regret it.
      [X] - Ernesti Echevalier.
      [X] - Sosuke Sagara
      [X]Suzaku Kururugi
      [X] - Amuro Ray. The Federation's legendary White Meteor, you've fought on every battlefield the Universal Century has to offer for the past decade and a half. You thought the Axis Drop was going to be your last battle, stopping your sometime friend and longtime rival Char Aznable from wiping out all life on earth. Instead, just as you pushed the fragment of Axis away from earth, the light of the Psycho-Frame transported your heavily damaged Nu Gundam to this new world. With Char safe and sound in his escape pod in the Gundam's arms. Joy.
      [x] - Chirico Cuvie. A veteran of an apocalyptic thousand year war, you are a genetically engineered perfect survivor. You care for little beyond the love of your life Fyana, and fight with surgical precision in your Scopedog AT. Size matters not to you, as even the most titanic foes have weaknesses you can exploit with a well placed Pile Bunker.
      [X] - Chirico Cuvie
      [X] - Tetsuya Tsurugi. Raised from a young age as a combat professional, you've fought time and again to push back the Mycenaean Empire in your Super Robot, Great Mazinger. A machine to surpass a god and go beyond a devil, Great's titanic form can call down the power of thunder itself to smite your foes. Even outside the cockpit, you're a force to be reckoned with. Now if only you could understand social interaction.
      [X] - Tetsuya Tsurugi
      [X] Amuro
      [X] Por Que No Los Dos
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    • afreaknamedpete said:


    The story of Char and Amuro ends with their souls fusing together into some phallic Newtype Force Ghost amalgamation. I'm not entirely sure what Newtype mind melding feels like but considering everytime it happens it ends up with a bunch of naked people crying, there's a non-zero chance it's just space sex.

    (Also Lalah's there too)
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    All the Newtype ghosts end up in the same place and Lala is clearly the bridge between those two when they show up in the Animated version of Unicorn. We see that in Zeta when both Rosama and Four both show up at the End along with Katz and the girl he like to help end Paptimus and his mobilesuit the 0. Just because they both show up to help Links deal with Full Frontal when they each have their own reason for wanting him stop really does not give any support to them having "Space sex" if that what you want to think it is.

    4WheelSword said:
    "it's true you were a very good friend to me"
    "I came here to laugh at you"
    "She could have been a mother to me"
    Comments made by a man with a good sense of like... how to be around other people.
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    I don't think anyone ever Showed Char anything that could be considered health companionship outside of his mother and Sayla and he ended up abandoning the only family he had left in the end and by the time anyone actually tried to be a friend to him he only thought about how to use those people with no real understanding of what a friend was. I mean look what happened to most of the people he claimed to be friends with.
     
    Warmachine375 said:
    Char tricked a blonde guy to switch places with him and get killed by a ship being sabotaged, and had a fellow cadet killed for knowing his secret despite said guy earnestly pledged his life to help him.
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    Well I will say that Origins Char does come of as much more psychopathic then the original timeline version because I don't see that version murdering a Zeon soldier who earnestly wanted to help him get his revenge.
     
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    Stewart9 said:
    Well I will say that Origins Char does come of as much more psychopathic then the original timeline version because I don't see that version murder a Zeon soldier who earnestly wanted to help him get his revenge.
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    Yeah and also Origins Sayla is a lot more aggressive there, willing to shoot and kill. In contrast to her original timeline self who doesn't like fighting, not having a choice at the time during the One Year War where everyone in White Base had to stick together, fight and survive albeit not all made it out alive.
     
    Z000 said:
    well i would have pick Ernie to at least add more spice into Trail Soldat mech cause really, they are kinda at the early stage of the mech game that Ernie could slide into and steer it off the cliff
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    Well SRW kinda shows Ernie would just once again have the time of his life in any setting with Mecha. and hey since Khan has said its supposed to be a custom SRW setting that eventually become relavant(maybe in the CS4 plot?) decent chance he may show up later in the quest.
     
    Yeah, I think it's a 15-15 tie between Amuro and Ange.

    Khona Moshr said:
    and hey since Khan has said its supposed to be a custom SRW setting that eventually become relavant(maybe in the CS4 plot?)
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    It was said we would be starting in CS3 (which means I feel my Trails setting post is a bit out of date but I don't want the Trails superfan in me to dump even more info and step on any toes when we haven't even gotten out of chargen yet lol)

    khan2012 said:
    Specifically, we'll be starting in CS3.
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    Alcor said:
    was said we would be starting in CS3 (which means I feel my Trails setting post is a bit out of date but I don't want the Trails superfan in me to dump even more info and step on any toes when we haven't even gotten out of chargen yet lol)
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    That was me guessing when the custom SRW setting may become relevant to the plot.
     
    afreaknamedpete said:
    Vilkiss is like Ishmelga tier though. Hard for Amuro to do much with Ange running around. The Nu Gundam is a wooden cart next to that thing...
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    Through does require Ange to actually learn what the Vilkiss can do and she probably will be missing some of the important clues she gets from the dragons for quite awhile like the importance of her ring and the song.

    And Amuro can help deal with Ange's negative social skills.
     
    Amuro playing mentor to the dragon weirdo (and Char presumably playing the role of fabulous shoulder devil) would be neat, but this is OP's first quest. Let's not overwhelm them. Vastly overwhelming yourself with scope creep is the QM's perogative.

    Khona Moshr said:
    Well SRW kinda shows Ernie would just once again have the time of his life in any setting with Mecha. and hey since Khan has said its supposed to be a custom SRW setting that eventually become relavant(maybe in the CS4 plot?) decent chance he may show up later in the quest.
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    Ernie, Shmernie. If G Gundam doesn't show up for CS4 I will be sorely disappointed.
     
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    Khona Moshr said:
    And Amuro can help deal with Ange's negative social skills.
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    I think OG Amuro was pretty uncharismatic. And even through Zeta Gundam and CCA he's a big deal mostly because of his war accomplishments, he's never really depicted as having an eye for politics nor is he an inspiring leader. Amuro commands respect because he can kick everyone's ass, and I'd wager in an isekai setting he won't be any more than a shellshocked vet.

    Char though?

    Oh boy. The guy will be running Erebonia by the end of the week. Char's probably more dangerous off the battlefield than on it.
     
    Ok I'm awake and…..a *tie*! Ok give me a bit to figure this out.
     
    LinkOnScepter said:
    That's still fine. This is Amuro we're talking about. The guy who went up against an MS in a Civilian Vehicle and won.
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    Ironically, the biggest problem he might encounter if he does get forced to use a Panzer Soldat is that it is actually possible for being too good to be a problem.

    A similar scenario actually plays out in-universe when one of the most skilled pilots in Trails (who normally uses a much higher-spec robot) uses a Panzer Soldat for a mock training battle. At one point he gets in a pinch and naturally falls back to his piloting experience/skill from piloting his superior mech and tries to execute some movement that would be possible in his normal unit but when applied here - while it successfully executes enough for him to dodge the finishing move he was about to suffer he literally overloads the engine doing so and the mech locks up mid-counter attack.

    When he gives a report on the incident to what basically amounts to a collection of the top engineers in the Empire, including the one who first built Panzer Soldats, the conclusion reached is that the Soldats simply can't keep up with his reaction time the way his normal unit could. They do actually discuss a means to mitigate the issue in implementing a new system, but it would be a non-trivial engineering feat in-universe to pull off.

    But the relevant observation I'd take away here is that the mech game in Trails is new enough that a very real caution to a previously skilled pilot dropping into the setting is that the mass produced mechs there don't appear to have any guard rails against a pilot pushing them farther than they actually can handle. Certainly something that can be worked around once it's a known issue for the pilot, but that brings up the issue that learning the problem probably means rendering a unit completely inoperable and depending on when that happens could be very bad. Not to mention unlike the pilot in question where breaking a mech is merely an "oops" embarrassing moment, it might be harder for someone else not nearly as connected to just get another one LOL.
     
    Alcor said:
    Ironically, the biggest problem he might encounter if he does get forced to use a Panzer Soldat is that it is actually possible for being too good to be a problem.

    A similar scenario actually plays out in-universe when one of the most skilled pilots in Trails (who normally uses a much higher-spec robot) uses a Panzer Soldat for a mock training battle. At one point he gets in a pinch and naturally falls back to his piloting experience/skill from piloting his superior mech and tries to execute some movement that would be possible in his normal unit but when applied here - while it successfully executes enough for him to dodge the finishing move he was about to suffer he literally overloads the engine doing so and the mech locks up mid-counter attack.

    When he gives a report on the incident to what basically amounts to a collection of the top engineers in the Empire, including the one who first built Panzer Soldats, the conclusion reached is that the Soldats simply can't keep up with his reaction time the way his normal unit could. They do actually discuss a means to mitigate the issue in implementing a new system, but it would be a non-trivial engineering feat in-universe to pull off.

    But the relevant observation I'd take away here is that the mech game in Trails is new enough that a very real caution to a previously skilled pilot dropping into the setting is that the mass produced mechs there don't appear to have any guard rails against a pilot pushing them farther than they actually can handle. Certainly something that can be worked around once it's a known issue for the pilot, but that brings up the issue that learning the problem probably means rendering a unit completely inoperable and depending on when that happens could be very bad. Not to mention unlike the pilot in question where breaking a mech is merely an "oops" embarrassing moment, it might be harder for someone else not nearly as connected to just get another one LOL.
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    Amuro has experience doing that in his own universe with the original Gundam, so he might be able to account for that should he win as MC 🤔
     
    Ok so. Here's how I'm going to handle this. I already have part of the post written up for Amuro, so he's the winner. However. Ange will be showing up, and relatively early as well.
     
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