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[X] Kazuya kept getting fired from part-time jobs, maybe she could scour more of those for him?
[X] That theatre boy she met on her first day knew Kai Kazuya, she could ask him.

These are probably the best options for meeting him away from his family.
 
[X] That theatre boy she met on her first day knew Kai Kazuya, she could ask him.

meeting asahi is exciting :D
also, yeah, maybe the kai family thinks that he's better suited for a wealthy lifestyle without his emotions. while it would be pretty interesting to go to the house, the family might be opposed to us trying to help him
 
[X] Kazuya kept getting fired from part-time jobs, maybe she could scour more of those for him?
[X] That theatre boy she met on her first day knew Kai Kazuya, she could ask him.
 
[X] She'd go to the Kai household and sneak around for him, if they had some issue with purification.

We make it past the guards, the dogs, the help, only to be nearly caught by the mother, but a quick dash into a room we thought was empty saves us, and there he is! ... Dripping wet and wearing nothing but a towel. -faints-
 
"Higashi, I told you then, I tell you more bluntly now: You do not want to be Hanazakari," Koyomi strode forth to face her as she said.
Does PMMM exist in this world? If someone compared Koyomi to Homura, would she recognize the reference?


[X] That theatre boy she met on her first day knew Kai Kazuya, she could ask him.

Probably best not to show up at his house, sneaky or not, until we know what the situation is with his family.
Maple makes a good point. And the other non-house options aren't great; trying to sleaze in by tagging along on a dinner invite Koyomi doesn't want to accept is unkind to everyone involved, and scouring part-time jobs doesn't sound effective.

[X] That theatre boy she met on her first day knew Kai Kazuya, she could ask him.
 
[X] That theatre boy she met on her first day knew Kai Kazuya, she could ask him.

If I'm remembering, they brought him up unprompted, so they probably have an opinion on his situation.
 
Does PMMM exist in this world? If someone compared Koyomi to Homura, would she recognize the reference?

That's a tough one. It touches on the question of 'How does [insert genre here] media change in a world where said genre is proven to be real?' Originally, I was planning to go the Watchmen route of 'Magical Girl media (Sailor Moon-style anyway) died out when people no longer found it escapist' but I think that's a little too predictable, especially when MGs aren't as omnipresent in manga and anime as superheroes are in western comics.
It's possible a lot more MG media would've remained like how it was pre-SM, or alternatively more like Magic Knight Rayearth or Princess Tutu where being set in another world helps distance it.

If I have it that PMMM still exists, public reaction to it would be very different than in our world, since everyone's already lived through a Magical Girl show. At best it would be seen as commentary on a real-world tragedy like with Godzilla, though naturally there'd be a bunch of debates as to how well it handled it, whether the parallels match up, or if 2011 is sufficiently removed or still too soon.

There's also the fact that with RUNE and state Hanazakari being a thing, governments could be more controlling of MG media, like how the military is in our world with films that portray them.

Given the timeline didn't diverge until the 90s (at least on Earth), I'll say that all pre-Sailor Moon MG media remains intact
 
[X] That theatre boy she met on her first day knew Kai Kazuya, she could ask him.

Going into his house or confronting his family are a bit passé as options, especially given we don't know him all that well.

Given his experience with part-time jobs, trying to find (yet) more for him it could come off badly... "This time it'll work, just try harder. Maybe you'll get lucky next time."

It's probably safest and kindest to approach it from the side by seeking more understanding first.
 
[X] That theatre boy she met on her first day knew Kai Kazuya, she could ask him.
 
*looks at the British defence of the Falkland Islands*
*looks at British boys' military fiction*

I see no need for it to change at all.
Jokes aside, even before the 80's the Brits knew that the military was going to be a matter of national interest, because that's been true for longer than the UK has been around. Magical girls are a bit less obvious.

And thinking about it seriously...yeah, there would be some pretty serious changes in how magical girls were depicted. 9/11 turned airplane hijacking from something that could show up in Disney movies and multiple Monty Python sketches to something that people avoided talking about to another element of militarized action movies and stuff.
And magical girls in this world would see an even bigger shift of public image. Hijacking a plane went from a crime (one that probably would just be disruptive but might end in hundreds of deaths if someone pushed the hijacker's buttons) to an act of terrorism that started wars and upended a superpower's sense of stability.

Honestly, the Frost Decade would make 9/11 look like a bank robbery. Freezing Tokyo alone would kill a few thousand times as many people as 9/11 (depending on exactly which Tokyo got frozen, when, how completely its outskirts/surroundings were frozen, etc), and the ensuing war would go from something mostly localized to the Middle East to something that sounds like it was fought globally. And of course, the trendsetting superpowers would be direct victims instead of imperial aggressors.

Fairies or aliens or whatever the Frost Fair were would go from being generic otherworldly entities seen in fantasy/sci-fi stories of all stripes to being an apocalyptic threat that scarred a generation. And by the same token, magical girls would go from fictional images of heroic girlhood to Current Events to...soldiers?
The readers' understanding of government Hanazakari is limited, basically just what AL just said about governments controlling supporting magical girl media and a brief mention of government Hanazakari being called "senshi". (It's most associated with Sailor Moon in the Anglosphere, but it literally means something like "warrior" or "solider," which I assume our QM is aware of.) But that's enough to start making assumptions.

If I were worldbuilding this, I'd assume that Toei and anyone else who had wanted to produce magical girl series would shift their focus to genres that didn't evoke the Hanazakari, like sentai and superheroes. (Instead of magical girls, that hot-button real-world subject, why not girly Power Rangers?) Magical girl fiction would be a mixture of new series distilling people's thoughts and concerns into digestible narratives (or faking it), stuff subsidized by national governments to influence public opinion, and legacy series trying to find some way to function in the new paradigm.

I guess this universe's equivalent of PMMM would be less like the Watchmen of magical girls and more like the Spec Ops: The Line of magical girls—commenting on a very real and significant phenomenon, whether intentionally or as a side effect of commenting on how other stories in its genre interact with that genre.
Which sounds like an interesting anime, but Homura probably isn't in it.
 
I went with Senshi specifically because it covers multiple meanings, as it can mean soldier, warrior, or guardian (the translation SM settled on). The idea was that the three main Hanazakari branches were each named after the main MG subgenres, (Magical) Warrior, (Magical) Idol, and (Cute) Witch.

And with just how many major franchises Toei has, from Kamen Rider and Super Sentai to Dragonball and One Piece to most earlier MG shows, they'd at least have a ton to fall back on. Out of the legacy series, Cutie Honey would probably be most affected, but it's always been seen as a borderline example anyway.

Another thing that'd factor is there are male Hanazakari (though the Quest hasn't gotten around to one yet), even if the majority are still female since the Dandelionhearts chose the less privileged. Not as many people openly identified as nonbinary back in the 90s so it'd be harder for Dandelionhearts to find them, but they'd be Hanazakari too
 
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The Long Winter Thaws 2.4
[X] That theatre boy she met on her first day knew Kai Kazuya, she could ask him.


"Okay, you two, if you're going to attempt anything along the lines of a heart-thawing, here's a reminder of how it works," Koyomi told the two non-Hanazakari from her past and present, "First, you do both know what a Heart Leech is?"

"Ooh, I do. Those are those parasites the Frost Fair create, they suck up the warmth of your heart and give it back to them," Miyako rushed to respond.

"Bit elaborate of a way to say 'drain your emotions', but yes," Koyomi said, then smirked, "Good to hear what the after-frost generation's been taught still gets the basics right."

"Oh, I remember," Asahi said while looking downcast, "You had to pull several off Tsukasa and I back in the day."

Koyomi turned quiet hearing that, but then explained, "I… suppose all those times must've blurred together for me."

"It happened a lot, so I can see how it would've for you," Asahi said, trying to keep a pleasant tone.
Thinking back, it then occurred to her, "Wait, those Heart Leeches were in Tsukasa and I about a day most, while Kai Kazuya would've had his in him for decades."

"Good, you're starting to see the problem. If his Heart Leech has survived this long, you won't be dealing with a normal specimen," Koyomi said, before she went on.
"Okay, so you'll also know there's four methods of purification, each used by the four genera of Hanazakari. Which are?" She then looked at Miyako to await her answer.

"Swords, Pentacles, Wands, and Cups!" Miyako said, then kept on answering, "With the roles of offence, defence, utility, and inventory, they thaw hearts by attacking the Leech or Frostfarer, defending the victim, saying the right incantation, or combining their emotions back together-"

Before Miyako could turn into a ceaseless fountain of Hanazakari facts, Koyomi stepped in to say, "Well, those are the standardised names RUNE uses. Anyway, the point is, and how do you plan to recreate any of those with Shinto rites?"

"Hinodeharu Jinja indeed houses both ritual weapons and chanted scripture. I believe we are well-prepared, on top of Shinto purification having continued for centuries," Asahi stated. "We'll do fine."

At that, Koyomi nodded and began to walk off, turning back to only say, "Good luck tonight, then."

"Wait," Miyako picked up on, "Does that mean… you're not gonna help us?"

Koyomi sighed out. "Nozawa… listen, I haven't transformed in decades. I'm too long out of practice to be trying to thaw anyone's heart," she said downcast, then glanced at Asahi, "Besides, you've said 'we'll do fine' and have millennium-old purification rites, sounds like you don't need me."

"Arisugawa-sama, wait, it's not like that!" Miyako tried to say, but already Koyomi had left.
Miyako then stared dejectedly into the distance, before she turned to look at Asahi and asked, "You knew her back in school, so… was she always like this?"

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Asahi said:
[ ] "No. It's been more than twenty years, people change a lot in that time. Koyomi most of all."
[ ] "Koyomi could act like that back then, but the years must've taken their toll on her."
[ ] "Yes, Koyomi's the same as she ever was, I fear."
[ ] Write-in


With Koyomi now far out of earshot, Asahi on a dime gritted her teeth and fumed, "How dare she say 'You do not want to be a Hanazakari'. The Hanazakari could actually do something, fight back, not be completely powerless against the Frost Fair." Then she started to chuckle, "Now after all these years I can show her, I'll purify a Heart Leech without her having to come save me."

"Er, you alright, Higashi-sama?" Miyako asked, tugging at her collar.

"Oh, my apologies. I'm alright, Nozawa-chan. Just decades of pent-up frustration coming out, that's all," Asahi said, having to bite her lower lip.
Breathing in and out, she told her potential employee, "Well, we'll see to Kai the moment we have time to, assuming his family will let us. But we have shrine duties for now, and let's start your audition off easy, shall we? Sweeping the floors and selling souvenirs, that sound good?"

"Yes, ma'am!" Miyako said, dramatically bowing and saluting again. "I won't let you down!" Well, not until it comes to having to dance…



The sunlight poured down from the open sky upon the Hinodeharu Shrine courtyard, a welcome change from the mere slivers that poked through on the forest path. The air tasted fresh and clean too, easier for a countryside shrine to accomplish than an urban one, Miyako figured. And though the shrine was old, Asahi and her husband before her had put significant work into its upkeep, meaning unlike Casa Arisugawa it never got Miyako fearing it could crumble at any moment.

With no visitors yet and Asahi's son Hayato busy elsewhere, to Miyako's disappointment, it was just her, the head priestess, the stone lion-dogs, and the enshrined kami for quite some time.
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Said kami being:
[ ] Inari, the genderfluid deity of rice and a ton of other things, you could tell by the white stone foxes around.
[ ] Hachiman the war god, whose blessing might come in handy against that leech.
[ ] Tenjin, god of studies and natural disasters. Helpful for Miyako reapplying to college, and venting if she flunked again.
[ ] Amaterasu, which made Miyako's eyes widen. That'd put them on no less than the Ise circuit!
[ ] Write-in


Oh, along with a swarm of dust motes of course, Miyako single-mindedly at work sweeping the courtyard. Whenever they did get visitors though, she raced over to the souvenir stand and began hawking ofuda, omamori, and several other objects she'd blanked on when Asahi had described them.

"Hey, did I tell you I'm gonna be a journalist?" Miyako said to Asahi when she had time, "'Cause I could put in a good word for you if I do an article on shrines."

Asahi had to wince. "Sounds me to like you're already cozying up to the boss," she said. "And wouldn't journalism have standards against bias?"

Miyako could've melted then and there from shame. "I'm so sorry, I didn't know I was coming off that way…" she mumbled increasingly incoherently, at which Asahi had to giggle at.

At the end of the shift, Asahi summed up Miyako's first trial run day with, "Well, you may have gotten over-eager at the souvenir stand, plus your one journalism comment, but you undeniably bring a real enthusiasm to being a miko."

"Oh thank you, thank you, thank you," Miyako said as if to confirm. Calming down a bit, she then said, "Guess being a miko's like one of the closest things you can get nowadays to… being a Hanazakari."
She froze a little, wondering if she'd touched a nerve with Asahi, like she'd inadvertently revealed her boss' own reason for her job all those years ago.

To Miyako's relief, Asahi just nodded before moving onto the other reason the girl had come here. "Now, to the purification of the elder Kai brother. I would presume he's either at his parents' manor or somewhere around town."

Miyako was nearly blown off her feet. While the Kai had sounded prestigious, to think Kazuya could live in a mansion. Though her elation sputtered out when she realised that'd just make it harder to get in and find him. Unless…

"If he's not around town, I think I already know a guy who can get us in contact with Kazuya, or tell us more about his deal anyway," Miyako said, before she grew embarrassed to admit, "Don't know his name, but he came up to me the day I arrived here. He was picking on Arisugawa-sama, so that's not cool, but he did mention Kai Kazuya by name. Think this guy's at the theatre, he also namedropped the place."

"I believe the Yuuki family's in charge of the local theatre, it's possible the Kai could've patronised them," Asahi said, "Suppose it wouldn't hurt to ask them."

"Great, I'll be right back!" Miyako said and took off, then quickly ran back "Er, sorry, which way's the theatre again?"



Turned out the town theatre was on any other street, and would even look like any other building if not for a rickety sign and Miyako being told otherwise. From some reason she doubted this place was patronised by the likes of the Kai.
The sign did say that actors and scripters were wanted, well it said pretty much every theatre position was wanted, but those two stood out the most to Miyako. I do have an old Hanazakari fanfic if they're interested, I could even star! Forgetting for a second she was already applying for a journalism major, was still trying out for miko, and had a Heart Leech case to settle.

The door open, she slowly entered to find herself in a pitch-black auditorium. Suddenly a lone spotlight appeared on stage, illuminating a brunette boy clad in a beret and checkered capelet. "Friends, Japanese, countrymen, ah, who'd also be Japanese! Past this point you have left behind the world of reality and entered a dimension where the only rules we play by are our own! Our heroes the most heroic, our villains the vilest, our tragedies the most tearjerking! Here, nothing is as it seems!" his voice boomed. Despite the megaphone, Miyako still recognised it as belonging to the very guy she'd met while Koyomi bought firewood.

Though since she'd just walked in on him in rehearsal, well she took it that's what this was anyway, that raised the question of how to reintroduce herself.
Article:
[ ] Bring up the last meeting. "Hi, I'm Nozawa Miyako, we met on the hill, remember?"
[ ] Cut through with the point. "You know Kai Kazuya, right? I wanted to talk about him."
[ ] Join in with his theatrics. "Yes, a spellbinding adventure awaits! Gods, heroes, princesses, cute boys!"
[ ] Hone that journalism. "Hi, I was interested in writing an article on this theatre."
[ ] Write-in


QM's Note: Since we've got three votes, I'd like to request Plan Voting this time around
 
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[X] So I Like Foxes Don't Judge Me
-[X] "Koyomi could act like that back then, but the years must've taken their toll on her."
-[X] Inari, the genderfluid deity of rice and a ton of other things, you could tell by the white stone foxes around.
-[X] Join in with his theatrics. "Yes, a spellbinding adventure awaits! Gods, heroes, princesses, cute boys!"
 
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[X] So I like Foxes Don't Judge Me

Looks like we already got an opportunity to audition and even that aside, I can't really turn aside the opportunity to ham it up, especially with how excitable Miyako is.
 
With Koyomi now far out of earshot, Asahi on a dime gritted her teeth and fumed, "How dare she say 'You do not want to be a Hanazakari'. The Hanazakari could actually do something, fight back, not be completely powerless against the Frost Fair." Then she started to chuckle, "Now after all these years I can show her, I'll purify a Heart Leech without her having to come save me."
Hm. Good headspace for this kind of magical girl stuff. Definitely not gonna end with some kind of monster that Koyomi needs to transform to defeat.


[X] So I Like Foxes Don't Judge Me
-[X] "Koyomi could act like that back then, but the years must've taken their toll on her."
-[X] Inari, the genderfluid deity of rice and a ton of other things, you could tell by the white stone foxes around.
-[X] Join in with his theatrics. "Yes, a spellbinding adventure awaits! Gods, heroes, princesses, cute boys!"

I like that version of Koyomi's backstory better than a straightforward "She used to be fun" or "Nah, she was always a jerk".
Theatrical Miyako fits pretty well with the version of her in my head.
Inari...I dunno that much about Shintoism, actually, but I understand that like a third of Shinto shrines are dedicated to them. So sure.
 
[X] So The Sun Is Cool Don't Judge
-[X] "Koyomi could act like that back then, but the years must've taken their toll on her."
-[X] Amaterasu, which made Miyako's eyes widen. That'd put them on no less than the Ise circuit!
-[X] Join in with his theatrics. "Yes, a spellbinding adventure awaits! Gods, heroes, princesses, cute boys!"

So I think the other plan is good, but I just think sun gods/goddesses are really cool (not that foxes aren't great), so I made my own plan. Also, I'm starting to feel like Koyomi with how I'm looking around trying to see magic plots in everything, looking for the first piece that's going to set off the domino chain.
 
[X] So I Like Foxes Don't Judge Me

Inari is a good deity in general, even without the Themetic connections here. He is seen as being a deity that is very close to the people so, maybe she will send a Kitsune or a mundane fox someday if we're a good girl and something resembling Shinto gods are active in the quest.

EDIT: Word got orphaned before posting, does anyone want to adopt a 'Maybe' that lost it's sentence:p
 
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If anyone's wondering about the vote for the kami, given that's something out of Miyako's or Koyomi's control, part of it was I couldn't quite decide myself and thought it wouldn't hurt to leave it open to voters. That and a different kami does give different benefits, though that's all I'll say on that for now.

Koyomi also said that Swords, Cups, Wands, and Pentacles were RUNE's standardised names, as the four Genera originally had different names depending on country. E.g., in Japan they were originally called Swords, Jewels, Spears, and Mirrors, in the British Isles they were Swords, Cauldrons, Spears, and Stones, and in France they were Spades, Hearts, Clubs, and Diamonds. Reason I bring this up here is as I wanted the keep the story post flowing smoothly
 
If anyone's wondering about the vote for the kami, given that's something out of Miyako's or Koyomi's control, part of it was I couldn't quite decide myself and thought it wouldn't hurt to leave it open to voters.
Makes sense. It's not like we have one well-defined player character; we've been making choices about both Miyako and Koyomi, about both their present actions and their retroactive backstories. The occasional vote about something else's retroactive backstory fits in neatly.
 
It's not like we have one well-defined player character; we've been making choices about both Miyako and Koyomi, about both their present actions and their retroactive backstories.
Splitting my story up between two leads is something I've been doing quite a bit lately, even if one tends to get a bit more focus. E.g., Satsuki and Mira in CountDown PreCure, Lavinia and The Doctor in Doctor Who: A Deal with Time, Sakura and Yakumo in Starless Black (before I switched to writing Revalkyrie, and even that has a few chapters from Olivia's POV).
In PreCure and Doctor Who's case, that was in part due to how those series often function (Cure duo, Doctor and Companion), so it could've rubbed off on me.

That's also been why this Quest is in third person, since when I want to switch perspectives it's easier to do than with first, let alone second
 
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[X] So I Like Foxes Don't Judge Me
-[X] "Koyomi could act like that back then, but the years must've taken their toll on her."
-[X] Inari, the genderfluid deity of rice and a ton of other things, you could tell by the white stone foxes around.
-[X] Join in with his theatrics. "Yes, a spellbinding adventure awaits! Gods, heroes, princesses, cute boys!"
 
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