And Should the Soil Not Take You (A Wight Quest)

Omake Response #5
Remember how I said I might make sprites for more characters?
Well, I would make one for Bell, but she doesn't have a detailed enough description to draw right now, and there's really only one character other than Ythona who does so... sadly, here's Fleshrender instead:


This is really fun! Sorry he was who you were stuck working with, hahah. That's another 25 omake XP for you.

I've gone ahead and given that the threadmark since I said I would do that when votes weren't involved. Actually, maybe I'll go back and threadmark the art-containing posts in Apocrypha and put the formal responses in Informational? Yeah, that makes more sense now that I've. Thought of it.

I'm going to try and write up more proper descriptions of Bell and the other characters as we meet them; I think I said that last time, but if I say it again it'll stick. On that note, I've also had a change of heart; I think I'm going to describe Ythona in a bit more detail moving forward. I have really enjoyed seeing the different interpretations, but it has been an arc, and I think things are starting to converge.

Also I will probably call the vote tomorrow. I have been very busy with a mess of my own making these past few days, so I'm not sure how soon after that I'll have the post.
 
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Well, it looks like we're still going to put that experience into Domination this time around. I really hope this is a one-time event and not the path we are going to take.
 
You know, I don't feel too strongly about whether we're "strange inhuman wight at the head of an army" scary, or "terrifying inhuman wight that can tear people apart" scary. I just want us to be threatening but nice and make food for people.
 
[X] Plan: Undead Leash
[X] About your self.

While I get not wanting to stick around ghouls, I'm not sure Ythona is going to have the option to do so. The use of sacrificial cannon fodder is to protect and die for more important or expensive units (summons? reanimations?) or whatever like us. If we get better at fighting, but don't keep our ability to control a ghoul horde up, I don't think we're likely to be deployed without ghouls because that is just asking for us to be brought down by numbers/teamwork/whatever.

More likely I think we would just be deployed under the command of some other wight or undead creature that can control a large enough ghoul horde for both their and our protection. I think that would be worse for us, especially since if said wight is Fleshrender, because it means we wouldn't have the freedom to do what we did last time and explore our past as it came up or let that person run.
 
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While I get not wanting to stick around ghouls, I'm not sure Ythona is going to have the option to do so. The use of sacrificial cannon fodder is to protect and die for more important or expensive units (summons? reanimations?) or whatever like us. If we get better at fighting, but don't keep our ability to control a ghoul horde up, I don't think we're likely to be deployed without ghouls because that is just asking for us to be brought down by numbers/teamwork/whatever.

I can see that - but why vote for Ghouls now? Combat stat wise Ythona is dead even.

If we are arguing as of the present one can argue that a group of people could overwhelm the ghouls or sneak up on Ythona while they're distracted.

Ghouls never is very different than Ghouls as secondary combat measure.
 
Vote 6 Results
And I'm closing the vote! Apparently not that long after a sudden catch-up, tie, and tiebreaker. Dramatic! I do hope this hasn't cut off anyone hoping to vote still. Also I really hope I don't post this right after another vote that sets up the tie again.

[X] About your self and [X] Plan: Undead Leash both win by a vote, by my count, and hopefully by the automatic count that's about to come, too. (Although really I'd say self wins by two votes, since I doubt DraftierDruid wanted to override the dream-choice-only vote with the later plan-only vote. A PSA, the latest vote post replaces all the prior ones entirely, so in a situation like this you want to repeat any votes you don't want to change in a post where you change, add, or update one of several votes.)

Self. I meant self but I wrote past. That was not what won, self did. Whoopsies.

Scheduled vote count started by DoobleDeeDooble on Feb 24, 2023 at 3:28 AM, finished with 46 posts and 19 votes.
 
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I can see that - but why vote for Ghouls now? Combat stat wise Ythona is dead even.

If we are arguing as of the present one can argue that a group of people could overwhelm the ghouls or sneak up on Ythona while they're distracted.

Ghouls never is very different than Ghouls as secondary combat measure.
Because I'd rather not have to fight to put 400 XP into Domination next time instead of anything else when it's clearly so much of a contentious topic.

And if we want to keep a certain minimum amount of horde control relative to our worth in order to avoid being sent out with a minder to keep us protected, the simplest way to avoid falling below that amount accidentally is to get in the habit of giving Domination a boost just before so it's comfortably above that minimum level, and then bring our combat stats up to match.

I don't think we'll have to do it that many times. I imagine there's going to be a point where we reach "good enough" ghoul control for our own protection we can reach relatively fast, and then we won't have to worry about being sent out with someone else. After than point we may be able to get away with almost completely, if not entirely, ignoring the Domination stat if we want Ythona to be a fighter or anything else instead of a Swarm Commander. It's just a matter of maintaining a balance so we never are worth more ghoul protection than what we can provide ourselves up until that point IMO.
 
Ugh.

I just wanted a tanky juggernaut heroine, now I can't have that because nobody has the will to change direction when resources are this scarce, and by making this the first stat raised in the game, it's effectively become The Secondary Skill as far as the usual logic goes.

Which means people are now going to go "There's no point raising other skills because we can just hide behind our ghouls or our regeneration".

Early choices matter, because people want to lean into strengths generally. By forcing this into being a Strength, it's effectively gained a disproportionate amount of influence in future votes on advancement.

Which means that we're pretty much going to be shoehorned into being a boring minion master build in the future, which I very much don't approve of. That it was apparently a choice built out of fear of a character who's never so much been seen before because "We need to do this or Bad Things will happen to us" tells me that it's going to keep happening in the future. "Wights control Ghouls, if you can't do that, you're useless" is a nearly impossible argument to defeat once it's been locked into place.

So yeah, boring minion master regenerator build go I guess, which is a shame because I just picked this up and found Ythona to be very cute, but this is a very boring build as far as my interests go.
 
Personally, I only wanted to level Domination to keep the Ghouls tame whenever Ythona's talking with a human or when she's in emotional turmoil from her memories.

I figured 1 level up is good for that, and after that, we can spend all our points into being a face puncher. I do physical powerhouse characters, and Ythona has the potential to be a very good one thanks to her healing.
 
So yeah, boring minion master regenerator build go I guess, which is a shame because I just picked this up and found Ythona to be very cute, but this is a very boring build as far as my interests go.
Yes, that's very sad. But you're not special in having preferences and being bored by other things.
 
I don't want to put my thumb on the scales, but I do want to say I've been pretty pleased with the amount of discussion the vote generated and the overall kinds of points people were making; concerns about character beats, thematic appropriateness, thinking about future problems, and of course just what would be cool to see. And I hope this doesn't come off as an attempted refutation of anyone sore over how the vote went or the rationales involved. I just wanted to note this because going in I wasn't sure if the XP system was really going to fit this, or be a thing I liked using, but I can put that to rest. (Admittedly having to selectively reward artwork with a number of points that feels fair but also not unbalanced in the skill level context has been a bit of a tough call for me, it turns out.)

On the soreness, all I want to say is I would rather things not get testy because of it or in response to it, though admittedly I am just a pretty conflict-averse person.

There is something else I think might be worth touching on, which is that the skill system has a bit of a low floor. It's in the fluff back in the third post, but also it's in the fluff back in the third post, so it feels maybe worth mentioning again. The particular starting choices meant Ythona started average in all the core attributes except healing and magic (there were combinations of choices that would have led to some zeroes). That may be relevant to ideas of satisficing and risk management that have been brought up.

Also, just going to note that there's 125 omake XP still unspent: 75 from Eternal_0bserver and 50 from x_lksk. I probably don't need to do the pokes (let me know where you'd like it to go at your leisure) but, well, since I was posting again anyways, it felt worth stating for the record. We aren't seeing the final totals of XP after Arc 1 just yet, I suppose.
 
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I'm just a bit testy, and I've recently Gone Through Some Shit, I wanted a cute moe brick wall of a tank.

Fuck it, I'll just do it myself then. I've got far more free time than I used to now.
 
I'm just a bit testy, and I've recently Gone Through Some Shit, I wanted a cute moe brick wall of a tank.

Fuck it, I'll just do it myself then. I've got far more free time than I used to now.
I hope you stick around here still. We do have a lot of XP invested into Physical Power now so I'm sure the thread will go the route of a brick wall tank otherwise, that XP will go to waste.
 
Was just waiting for the end of the vote to decide what to put the points into. I'll put my 50 into Physical Power, bringing it even closer to a level up.

If Eternal_0bserver puts their points into that as well, that will be enough for a level up. No pressure if they have something else in mind though, like for example putting that into Perception instead to incentivize people to vote for that next.
 
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Ugh.

I just wanted a tanky juggernaut heroine, now I can't have that because nobody has the will to change direction when resources are this scarce, and by making this the first stat raised in the game, it's effectively become The Secondary Skill as far as the usual logic goes.

Which means people are now going to go "There's no point raising other skills because we can just hide behind our ghouls or our regeneration".

Early choices matter, because people want to lean into strengths generally. By forcing this into being a Strength, it's effectively gained a disproportionate amount of influence in future votes on advancement.

Which means that we're pretty much going to be shoehorned into being a boring minion master build in the future, which I very much don't approve of. That it was apparently a choice built out of fear of a character who's never so much been seen before because "We need to do this or Bad Things will happen to us" tells me that it's going to keep happening in the future. "Wights control Ghouls, if you can't do that, you're useless" is a nearly impossible argument to defeat once it's been locked into place.

So yeah, boring minion master regenerator build go I guess, which is a shame because I just picked this up and found Ythona to be very cute, but this is a very boring build as far as my interests go.

While I understand your feelings, it looks like we won't necessarily go down that path this time. And even now, we still have more prerequisites for building a defender than a necromancer, especially given the presence of regeneration and weapon skill, which are our backstory bonuses.

And seeing that this should give us a rank up, I'll ask the author to invest my XP in physical power as well.

Now it remains to do something with the perception and weapon mastery...
 
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Omake Response #6
ah! wanted to get this in before the next update ..
great job voting every body!! wow!!

Oh, these are all so nice! I really adore the picture of Ythona curled up to sleep, and the last one is just adorable. I'm going to give you 50 omake XP for this.

That design is also pretty close to how I was imagining Bell, which is cool. I especially like the ways you've done the teeth. On that note, Edgedancer was rather on the money when mentioning the hair contrast here:

For what it's worth, after their conversation, I kinda ended up with a mental image that contrasts Ythona and Bell using their hair of all things.

With Ythona's hair somewhat inspired by Beastofburden's images, but also the scene of her brushing her hair at the start of the quest. It left me with the image of Ythona purposefully keeping her hair long as somewhat of a reminder on the emphasis human culture places on hair care, especially for women. Yet, her cirumstances mean she can't quite keep up with that ideal only widen the contrast as her unruly hair makes her appear more ragged, haggared and not entirely comfortable with her current body. Then round that out with a very light hair tone to play into her overall palid and lifeless look.

Bell then in my mind exsist somewhere between Ythona's long hair that represents the holding on to humanity and Fleshrender's hairlessness that gives him an inhuman uncanny valley factor. The result is a practical and short haircut. Something that has no ambition to be fancy, or even attractive, but is easy enough to care for even under the wights meager living conditions. The result is a style that makes her much more put together and at ease with her current state of unlive. As a finishing touch, I'm also imagining her with black hair. It's at least some color to take her from just deadly pale into more of a goth look.

So, that was pretty cool, and felt worth bringing back up in light of this. It also is a nice contrast. I'll save giving a more detailed description of Bell for when she next appears in the story, though.

Speaking of the story, hopefully I'll have the next page tonight.
 
Arc 2, Elegy: 6. In the End, All Things Must Break
Arc 2, Elegy

6. In the End, All Things Must Break

You look happy. You're grinning, laughing. Your soft face is framed by straw blonde hair. Your skin is ruddy, after so much work and play out in the sun, like everyone else's. It's so familiar. It could be you on any happy day. So why do you feel uneasy? It's not showing on your face. You still look joyful. You look unworried. You look alive.

Your stomach starts to sink. Your face doesn't show it. Because that's not your face. You're only looking at it.

You glance down at your hands, and they're so pale. The sun kissed her, but it scours you, and so you hid from it. Even the natural color all but bled out of you. And the fingers... Your nails grew into your fingertips, coming out pointed and thick. They really are claws. Hers are barely grown out at all, so thin and flimsy, torn short after little chips from one thing or another. You grab a handful of your hair, and it's as light as hers, but the color seems less rich. It looks almost dirty, and it's rife with frizz and little snarls. You run your tongue over the points of your teeth. She barely has four that are anything like yours. She looks healthy and strong, not lean and wasted away.

You aren't her. The difference is night and day.

Have you ever looked so happy? Have you ever looked so carefree? She has such plenty, and all you have is want.

All you are is want.

You want to take what she has. Don't you deserve it? Isn't that only fair? You need to take it. You can't help yourself. The urge isn't your fault. You should take it. Someone should have it. It shouldn't go to waste. She's only a corpse.

Her grin is just rigor mortis. Hunger squirms in your stomach. You ache to tear her apart and restore yourself with the spoils. But you don't. You won't.

Why? Why deny yourself? Why do you hate what you are? Why do you revere the corpse? You're defiling it all the same.

You look down at your hands, and you see crude mockeries carved from bark, cupped together and holding blood, precious drops seeping past them. You taste iron on your tongue. You open your hands and let it fall away, but it lands on roots that greedily drink it up. It seeps up your twisted and gnarled trunk, and you can feel the bloom of life burning inside you. It feels like it might boil and break you and burst free, as if that hateful sunlight slipped into your veins. You can't keep it. You can't have it.

You are only want. All you can do is take and take until there's nothing left. Whatever you try, it's all that will happen. You can change nothing. So why make it harder on yourself? It doesn't matter. Only the end matters.

And you already know what's going to happen in the end. It's—



You jolt awake to the sound of tearing fabric. Blinking bleariness out of your eyes, you shift onto your side to look towards the sound. Fleshrender is standing in the entrance to your room. He is running his claws through your curtain.

You're aghast, and angry, but baffled. You stare in mute incomprehension for a second, and then he notices you're awake. He grins.

"Morning." He's saying it casually, as he tears another gash in your one vestige of privacy. A flash of anger seizes you, and you scrape your claws on the floor. But it won't help anything to give in.

"What do you want?" Your voice is icy. Some part of you wants to wince because you didn't say what you're supposed to say, but you will. Just, once he's gone.

He grins mirthlessly at you. "Nothing." Another tear.

You grimace. It would have been easier if this was some special business he was waking you up to have you do. If he is just after entertainment... Why does it have to be you? What do you even say? "Then why are you doing this?"

He frowns, and then finally tears your curtain in half. You can't help but wince. "Come on. Where's that backbone from earlier?" He looks actually disappointed in you. "What, some food in your belly and you're back to rolling over? Realize how stupid sticking up to strength was?"

What is he—You turn your thoughts back to yesterday. You were blunt in asking for food. Seriously? You get to your feet. At least you slept in your clothes. "Are you actually angry over that?"

He gives a fake sigh. "I'm not angry. But you are. Come on, let it out! Just what else do I gotta do?" He's staring at you, and you can almost feel the pinpricks of power from his gaze.

Power... You weren't picking up on his. It's there now that you think to pay attention, but usually you couldn't help but be overwhelmed by it whenever he was near. He's holding it back? Is he trying to make you more likely to pick a fight? You're not sure if you're surprised he was clever enough to even think of that, or surprised he was so stupid as to think it might possibly work after making the gap in power obvious on every other opportunity. "Being angry at you isn't going to get me a new curtain." You just have to stay calm and avoid egging him on. He can't hurt you, or he wouldn't be bothering with this. He'll get bored.

Fleshrender shakes his head. "Nuh uh. No more pretending. Wait, are you actually so stupid you didn't notice I took some of your food?" You don't dignify that with a response. Fleshrender snarls. "I bet the sorcerer won't care if I rip that tree out of your head. How much do you think it would hurt?" He loses whatever hold he had on his power, and it washes over you, sheer might and pure malice. He's staring at you, and you can feel the ghosts of claws barely pressing into your skin.

You know you're safe, but your heart is beating a little too fast. "I'm not stupid." You ball up your left hand in a fist, but keep your voice cold.

"Well, you should be!" Fleshrender grins wide, as if he just told a joke. "Thinking too much doesn't suit us ghouls."

That makes you tilt your head. "Fleshrender. We aren't ghouls." You're quiet for a moment, but you can't stay that way. "I refuse to believe you don't know that. Even you must have paid enough attention to know we're wights."

He snorts. "Wight, ghoul, it don't matter. That's just words. What matters is what we are. I'm strong. I take what I want because weaklings can't stop me. Sure, you're weak and can't stop me, but you're s'posed to try all you can to. Fight tooth and claw to hold onto what's yours. You didn't let dying stop you once. But now you're going to give in to avoid a fight? Sickening."

You narrow your eyes. "Okay. So we're all pathetic for deferring to you. Why are you bothering me about it?"

"Because now I think you have a little spark in you and it's going to flash eventually. And then we can have a little tussle, and that'll be fun." He takes a step closer to you, and it's all you can do not to flinch. "But mostly it's because you're boring. The others are worth something, sometimes. Couldn't you at least be an exciting freak? You're not gonna be any fun 'til you break, so I'd rather not wait."

You stare up at him. He's still trying to get a rise out of you. He probably isn't going to keep this up for the long-term. You hope not, at least. But you need to get him to go away right now. His power is overwhelming and he's cornered you, and... It's not just that. He's wrecking your things because he wants an excuse to kill you, and you can't pretend that isn't terrifying. But you manage to keep your voice flat and level. "Get out of my room. Get me a new curtain."

He raises his bald brows and sneers. "You gonna make me?"

"No." You swallow, and put more steel into your voice. "Your master is."

He stares at you with confusion and then rage in his eyes, and your heart skips a beat. His power flares and he shows all his teeth and a wave of terror takes you. You said the wrong thing. Now he's going to snap and snap you, damn the consequences, and it's your own foolishness that brought it on—

But then he turns and stalks off without another word.

He apparently doesn't want to face the fact that he's pathetic by his own worldview. For all his faults, you wouldn't have guessed Fleshrender was a hypocrite. If only because you didn't imagine he had principles to betray in the first place.

Principles.

"My name is Ythona, and I am a person."

You heave a shaky sigh of relief. Saying the words help. Asserting yourself over your own room again. You glance over at the half-exposed entrance.

You go to gather up the half of your curtain from the ground. After a moment of thought, you take down the top half, too. It has less rips in it. It's not going to make a perfect blanket, certainly not in two parts, but it will be better than nothing. You stare down at your hands holding the fabric, and feel a small wave of revulsion. The thought of bloodstained wood comes to mind. But it's not a memory. Even then... you had only lost the one arm. Was that your dream?

You try to think back to whatever you can recall of the dream as you fold up the fabric. You can recall hazy, half-formed imagery of blood and wood, snippets of hollow words, a strange feeling of heat bubbling under your skin. You aren't surprised your dreams are so ill-formed and unpleasant, but it is disappointing. But it wasn't all disappointment. You can also recall an image of your living self, sharper than you can usually think of. You smile a little. Despite everything, you think you're a little closer to that already.

You pick up your brush and try extra hard to undo the stubborn tangles.



Fleshrender is absolutely not going to bring you a replacement curtain. You're going to have to find where to get a replacement yourself. At least you can honestly claim to need a new one, now. Maybe you can even take two... Your old plan was to ask Fleshrender for one when it seemed like as good a time it would ever be. Hopefully one of the others will know the answer, instead. Now that you think about it, you're not sure Fleshrender would know himself anyways.

You head off for the usual communal area, although you're not sure if they'll be there. From your best guess at when it is, it's probably not around the time Fleshrender doles out the rations for everyone not out on an errand yet, so there isn't much reason to gather. But what else is there to do, really? ...Actually, you should probably ask about that, too. A few ghouls come to crowd you in the hallway, but you push them away with your thoughts. Wait, are the halls narrow and twisting as a defense measure? Does that really suit an army of ghouls?

You make it to your destination without getting lost, this time. It's a large room by the standards of this place, although it's debatably a room. The tunnel just widens out into the space, without a clearly defined entrance or exit like most of the rooms do. In the center is a slab of stone that's essentially a table, if without chairs. Sybil is standing at it, but doesn't seem to be doing anything. Bonecruncher is sitting against one wall, toying with something in his hands. Pepin is there too, though he's lingering at the far end, where it's still more tunnel than space. So then, Bell is probably out on patrol. It leaves you unsure of what Fleshrender is doing, but you're glad he isn't taking earlier out on anyone else. Unless it's on someone you don't know. You shake that thought out of your head, and step into the room.

"Hello everyone." They all look over to you, and you smile. Bonecruncher is smiling the same as ever, but Sybil and Pepin look suspicious. Surely it's not that strange to hear you talk?

Sybil is the first to respond, turning to face you and leaning her arm on the table. Unlike most wights you've seen, she doesn't look scrawny or viciously lean, but instead healthy. In her build, at least, she's the same deathly pale as the rest of you. A part of you is wondering if that reflects a life of plenty or better luck out in the bog. "What do you want?" Her voice is flat, but suspicion is still written on her face.

This isn't the response you were expecting. You shake your head for a second. "It's not that I want anything. Well, not like that. I just want to talk to you all." You smile again.

Pepin pipes up from where he's skulking. "You only ever talk to Fleshrender." He says it like an accusation. You aren't exactly sure of what, but it still stings. You don't want him to think you're out to get him somehow. He looks about as old as you were, although you aren't sure how long he's been a wight.

You open your mouth to say something in reply when Bonecruncher speaks up from the wall. "Now, now. If Ythona wants to talk, that's something to welcome. Yes?" His voice is deep and sonorous, a reminder of his size, yet warm in its way. He smiles a little wider at you, wrinkles creasing in his face. He looks elderly, but certainly isn't built like an old man.

Sybil shrugs, and Pepin nods as if he thinks he has to.

This isn't exactly the welcome you were hoping for. You look over to Bonecruncher. "Thank you." He nods. You turn back towards the other two. "I know I haven't been friendly, but I would like to start. I'd like to get to know you all. We're comrades, right?" That word feels hollow on your tongue, and the response it gets is just as hollow. Being subject to the same monster's whims doesn't really make you comrades in any real sense. "Yeah, I guess not. But we're all people, and that's enough reason to get on friendly terms."

Pepin tilts his head at you, red hair falling in his face a bit. You can't read his expression, but don't want to stare to try and figure it out. He probably wouldn't appreciate that.

Bonecruncher snorts. "I don't know about that." He gets up to his feet. He stands tall enough he probably has to duck through some of the tunnels, and he's quite broad. His power doesn't seem any different from Sybil's or Bell's, but he looks like he could easily defeat any of you. Him suddenly disagreeing with you like that is worrying. Then he grins wider. "But I see no reason not to be friendly and make merry regardless."

You breathe out a sigh of relief. In your peripheral vision, you see Pepin edging away. Then Bonecruncher brings a hand up to his mouth, and bites what he was holding in half. He finishes it in another two bites, and then makes for the table.

You had not realized his name was so literal.

You follow him to the table, standing at the spot nearest to the entrance. Bonecruncher takes the side opposite you. Sybil stays where she is, but doesn't really look interested in you anymore. Pepin is still inching away, but he's glancing from Bonecruncher to you. Maybe you can get him to talk, if not come over.

You're finally talking to them. It's stiffer than you would have liked, but it's a start. Still, now the initiative is on you to have something to talk about. You probably should have had that in mind from the start.

[] Ask some questions. You have more than a few. It won't make the most scintillating conversation, but it was what was on your mind when you walked in here. And any lingering suspicion would probably be wiped away, because if you were Fleshrender's lapdog or whatever else, you probably wouldn't need to ask where the curtains were. And maybe that will lead you to something more interesting to talk about.

[] Tell a story. Making merry wasn't a bad suggestion. You don't think you would be sane now if you hadn't, just by yourself. Though, your games wouldn't really suit multiple people, and your singing... But a tale, that could work. And it might spur one of the others to share one in turn.

[] Bring up cooking. From what Bell mentioned, that might grab Sybil's attention. And hopefully the others' too. With more people willing to cook rations with you, you would be able to do more than you can reasonably do on your own. And you want to give the chance for them to pivot away from raw meat as well. Why wait?
 
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[X] Bring up cooking. From what Bell mentioned, that might grab Sybil's attention. And hopefully the others' too. With more people willing to cook rations with you, you would be able to do more than you can reasonably do on your own. And you want to give the chance for them to pivot away from raw meat as well. Why wait?
 
[X] Bring up cooking.

(gosh i love this update!) i think bringing up eating meals that aren't raw meat would maybe make everyone feel a little better about being a person and all! being undead, they might really go for that! eating and food is a big part of being alive, you know!?
i love undead socializing simulator.
 
[X] Bring up cooking. From what Bell mentioned, that might grab Sybil's attention. And hopefully the others' too. With more people willing to cook rations with you, you would be able to do more than you can reasonably do on your own. And you want to give the chance for them to pivot away from raw meat as well. Why wait?

Is this even a question? We're going to cook. We're going to make people food.
 
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