The Shyish Student (An Amethyst Apprentice in Hogwarts) [Warhammer Fantasy/Harry Potter]

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[X] Just tell her that Neville's been locked out of the common room before. Ask her to help make sure he isn't again

[X] Talk to Hagrid about your concerns

If you have concerns about a dog owner with a dangerous dog, the sensible thing to do is inform them. Unless they're a dick. But Hagrid is certified not a dick so it should be fine.
 
I don't remember anything about this happening in the book. The only thing I know of that it could be is something related to Magister Grey. Of course it could be completely unrelated to us, but it's still noteworthy.

It's not a specific event, Dumbledore is out of the castle a lot, what with having three full-time jobs. Chief Warlock of the Wizengamot and Supreme Mugwump of the ICW corresponding effectively to Speaker for the House of Commons and Secretary General of the UN respectively.

He really doesn't have the time to play Headmaster properly.
 
[X] Just tell her that Neville's been locked out of the common room before. Ask her to help make sure he isn't again

[X] Talk to Hagrid about your concerns
 
[X] Talk to Hagrid about your concerns.
[X] Just tell her that Neville's been locked out of the common room before. Ask her to help make sure he isn't again.
 
[X] Don't talk to Hagrid about your concerns.
[X] Just tell her that Neville's been locked out of the common room before. Ask her to help make sure he isn't again.
 
[X] Don't talk to Hagrid about your concerns.
[X] Share the details of your vision, as you've shared with Neville himself. Ask her to keep an eye out on Neville.
 
[X] Just tell her that Neville's been locked out of the common room before. Ask her to help make sure he isn't again

[X] Talk to Hagrid about your concerns
 
It's not a specific event, Dumbledore is out of the castle a lot, what with having three full-time jobs. Chief Warlock of the Wizengamot and Supreme Mugwump of the ICW corresponding effectively to Speaker for the House of Commons and Secretary General of the UN respectively.

He really doesn't have the time to play Headmaster properly.
OTOH, magical nations are tiny. We don't get exact population numbers, but the size of Hogwarts in the books suggests less than ten thousand in all of Magical Britain. Speaker for that lot probably has less to do. An obscure British borough like Melton has fifty thousand, and it's one of the smallest.

Hogwarts appears to be the only magical school in Magical Britain. Harry's year in Gryffindor has ten students in the books, and the double-house classes are mentioned to have about twenty students. If this is representative, there's about 40 new witches and wizards a year born in Magical Britain. It's probably lower than usual because of the recent Wizarding War, and some children might be homeschooled or studying abroad, so let's estimate there's up to 80 children in a good year. Dumbledore was quite old and he died at 115, so let's estimate the high end again and suppose wizards live to 120 years when they're not having wars or terrible magical accidents.
80 * 120 = 9600 as a high estimate for Magical Britain's population.
 
Okay, thinking over the two areas of concern:
-Hagrid

Once we go beyond a superficial examination of the vision it becomes clear the Cerebrus is protecting Neville. But Zagreus has no reason to know that, and telling Hagrid while still under that misconception is more likely to hamper Good Boy when he needs to be free to act.

-Hermione

I'd note that Hermione was initially not especially skeptical of Divination. Its just that Trelawney is a massive drama queen, and liked to hype up her divinations a lot despite most of her divinations only happening in the 2-3 year period. This coinciding with her self-inflicted overwork with the Time Turner made her extremely uncharitable towards the courses she ultimately dropped, probably to justify to herself dropping any subject at all.

But I think she'd take it in the spirit of concern over Neville.
...though this being Hermione, I'm not really sure how she'd react.
 
OTOH, magical nations are tiny. We don't get exact population numbers, but the size of Hogwarts in the books suggests less than ten thousand in all of Magical Britain. Speaker for that lot probably has less to do. An obscure British borough like Melton has fifty thousand, and it's one of the smallest.

Hogwarts appears to be the only magical school in Magical Britain. Harry's year in Gryffindor has ten students in the books, and the double-house classes are mentioned to have about twenty students. If this is representative, there's about 40 new witches and wizards a year born in Magical Britain. It's probably lower than usual because of the recent Wizarding War, and some children might be homeschooled or studying abroad, so let's estimate there's up to 80 children in a good year. Dumbledore was quite old and he died at 115, so let's estimate the high end again and suppose wizards live to 120 years when they're not having wars or terrible magical accidents.
80 * 120 = 9600 as a high estimate for Magical Britain's population.
There's meant to be schools other than Hogwarts (there must be one in Ireland), and parts of the books and movies imply there's a lot more students than actually get named or acknowledged, so I'd assume there's at least 100,000 or so wizards scattered across the British Isles.
 
[X] Talk to Hagrid about your concerns.
[X] Just tell her that Neville's been locked out of the common room before. Ask her to help make sure he isn't again.

more hagrid is always nice to read. Hermoine is the type to help if asked.
 
[X] Talk to Hagrid about your concerns.
[X] Just tell her that Neville's been locked out of the common room before. Ask her to help make sure he isn't again.

Oh baby a triple......... in informing figures of authority to be vigilant.

About Hermione, I'd rather not, to be honest. It's unknown how she'll view prophecies at this point, and even if she believes it fully, perhaps it's better that she doesn't. After all, she kinda WAS part of the troubleseeking trio that couldn't get their noses out of any mystery that they became aware of in the original story.

The adults have been properly warned, and that should be enough for Zagreus the one-in-a-milllion freak who actually believes in authority. If they fail to do their job despite several warnings then that's on them. And we'll hang it over their heads FOREVER if they screw it up.
 
[X] Talk to Hagrid about your concerns.
[X] Just tell her that Neville's been locked out of the common room before. Ask her to help make sure he isn't again.
 
"I think Neville's in danger, Professor," you rasp.

Professor McGonagall stops, and gives you a searching look.

"Longbottom?" she asks, and you nod, "Come with me to class, Mister Nyx. You may share your concerns on the way."

You walk alongside Professor McGonagall. You're hesitant at first – you hadn't shared as much about your past with her in the same way you did with Dumbledore and Flitwick.

Then again, they'd probably talked about you.

"I remind you, Mister Nyx, that I am acting Headmistress in Professor Dumbledore's absence. If you have concerns about the safety of one of your fellow students, it is your responsibility to inform me."

"I saw him attacked in a vision, Professor," you say, explaining what you saw. McGonagall listens but doesn't seem to consider it convincing – until you mention catching a glimpse of the three headed beast beyond the door.

"How did you know…" she sputters, "Have you gone beyond the entrance? Heard about another student who did?"

"I swear I have only seen it in my vision, Professor," you say.

She looks at you for a few moments, her expression still stern.
I cannot help, after reading this, but to remember what McGonagall said about divination as a discipline, and about Trelawney as a colleague.

"Really, what has got into you all today?" said Professor McGonagall, turning back into herself with a faint pop, and staring around at them all. "Not that it matters, but that's the first time my transformation's not got applause from a class."
Everybody's heads turned toward Harry again, but nobody spoke. Then Hermione raised her hand.
"Please, Professor, we've just had our first Divination class, and we were reading the tea leaves, and —"
"Ah, of course," said Professor McGonagall, suddenly frowning. "There is no need to say any more, Miss Granger. Tell me, which of you will be dying this year?"
Everyone stared at her.
"Me," said Harry, finally.
"I see," said Professor McGonagall, fixing Harry with her beady eyes. "Then you should know, Potter, that Sybill Trelawney has predicted the death of one student a year since she arrived at this school. None of them has died yet. Seeing death omens is her favorite way of greeting a new class. If it were not for the fact that I never speak ill of my colleagues —" Professor McGonagall broke off, and they saw that her nostrils had gone white. She went on, more calmly, "Divination is one of the most imprecise branches of magic. I shall not conceal from you that I have very little patience with it. True Seers are very rare, and Professor Trelawney…"
With Zagreus vision, although it's unlikely that she will change her worldview anytime soon, she will almost certainly have to rethink some of her preconceptions about foretelling, since Zagreus has talked about things he wasn't supposed to know, and McGonagall can spot a liar when she sees one. Her not dismissing completely Zagreus warnings says a lot about how much she has taken into consideration what he said.


"You know, we don't have passwords for Ravenclaw," you tell Neville.

"Really?" says Neville, surprised.

You nod.

"The door asks us a riddle. It might have been better for you. Nothing to memorise."

"I don't know," says Neville, eyes downcast, "I don't think I'm smart enough."

You frown. Neville doesn't strike you as too stupid to be a Ravenclaw.

"Let me tell you the riddle from last night," you say.

Compared to Gryffindor's secrecy about the passcode, things in Ravenclaw were more relaxed. You were encouraged to talk about and debate the riddles by the Prefects. Even if a student from another house overheard or was told, it would not help them. The door had a habit of changing riddles and rejecting answers if the person who knocked had copied their answer from somebody else.

"On me you can find a spine, but no bones," you say.

Neville thinks for a minute with no answer. You open your mouth to assure him that an older Ravenclaw was also having trouble with it when you'd reached the door.

"No!" says Neville, "Please, give me more time."

You nod and wait silently. Another minute passes before Neville's eyes widen in excitement.

"A cactus!" he shouts excitedly.

You blink, not expecting that answer, and think about it for a few moments.

"Well reasoned," you say.

Your answer was "a book," but you see the logic behind Neville's. Neville smiles, pleased with himself. After a few more minutes you walk him back to his common room, a spring in his step
It's good that Zagreus is such a positive influence to Neville, encouraging him to gain self-confidence little by little, even if neither of them realize it


"Professor McGonagall, I need to talk to Professor Dumbledore," you say.

She frowns, fixing you with a stern expression.

"Professor Dumbledore is not available at the moment, I'm afraid," she says.

"It's important, Professor," you say.

Professor McGonagall takes a deep breath.

"Professor Dumbledore received an urgent owl from the ICW and left last night."

"He's gone?" you say. It should not have surprised you – you knew Dumbledore had duties outside of Hogwarts.
IIRC it's the excuse for why Dumbledore isn't at Hogwarts when Harry and co 'have to' go into the forbidden corridor to stop the stone being yoinked.
Nonononono, with Dumbledore out there for some business, either due to a ruse sent by Quirrel, or as a calling of fudge to help the ministry catch magister grey, who is right now a fugitive chased by aurors (although they are nowhere near close to her), the fact is that, with Dumbledore out of the equation, Voldemort has free reign to try to get the stone, and neither Harry nor Zagreus are aware of the danger.
At least harry was (mistakenly so, but let's it slide because to a eleven years old, it looked reasonable to think that) convinced that Snape was after the stone, after figuring out with Hermione 's help what the philosopher's stone was, who it belongs to, and what guards it, thanks to its recklessness and tendency to get into other people's business, stemmed from his distrust of adult authority figures, due to the emotional abuse he suffered during his upbringing with the dursleys, whereas Zagreus, on the other hand, has been surrounded , most of his life, by very responsible people, who has taken the possibility of danger very seriously. Damn him and his goody-two-shoes attitude and blind trust of figures of authority (but then again, otherwise he wouldn't be the Zagreus we know and love)!!!! And damn the hat for sorting harry and ron into Ravenclaw, depriving them from the source of knowledge that is Hermione!!!!

I really don't know, with both harry and zagreus being in the dark about what is happening, how events are going to unfold, which I guess is good from a narrative viewpoint, to leave the readers on edge, and for the story to deviating from the original timeline and not making it repetitive, but damn it's stressful.

The wiki says that it was a letter from the Ministry, but I could see Quirrell doing that instead. In canon the attempt was made after Christmas, but here Quirrelemort has some other concerns, like Nyx's pomander. Combined with the grindylow incident, and Voldemort probably wants to get out ASAP.

We did see a vision of green light, which could be the killing curse.
And with virtually nobody left to stop quirrel, is likely that Voldemort is already on the way to get his body back much earlier than expected, which is horrifying if you ask me, unless Dumbledore has something guarded on his sleeve, apart from the mirror 's special properties, because let's be honest here, Voldemort isn't the most powerful wizard of the century for nothing, it's likely that he has his methods to bypass the defences, unless of course, Zagreus experience with the mirror has opened a window to Morr's realm, and the moment Voldemort tries to retrieve the stone, Morr suddenly appears and gives him a heart attack from the scare, or drags him to the afterlife.


Perfect representation of the Hogwarts teachers hapoy to say reassuring statements not happy to actually do anything.
Let's be fair to Hogwarts staff. Being realistic here, how many of us would have expected to consider the possibility of the most evil dark lord of the century, disguised as a harmless professor, trying to sneak out into the castle's vaults to retrieve a relic of unimaginable power, as something viable? Normally, they only have to deal on a daily basis with misbehaviour and detentions, the surrealistic frequency with which school-threarening events took place during harry 's formative years was an out of context problem that stemmed from harry 's nature as Voldemort's nemesis. Normally, Hogwarts is much calmer.

Besides, I think that the contrast between the level of responsibility between the Hogwarts' staff, and the magisters of the colleges, derives from the fact that the wizarding world has had many years of peace, which tends to make people more lenient and careless, whereas in Mallus, with its state of constant war, everyone is on edge, with their danger-warning instincts sharpened, and under constant vigilance.
 
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[X] Talk to Hagrid about your concerns.
[X] Share the details of your vision, as you've shared with Neville himself. Ask her to keep an eye out on Neville.
 
There's meant to be schools other than Hogwarts (there must be one in Ireland), and parts of the books and movies imply there's a lot more students than actually get named or acknowledged, so I'd assume there's at least 100,000 or so wizards scattered across the British Isles.
100.000 is way too much. Even if we assume normally theres 100 students at Hogwarts per year, and that the average wizard lives to 140 (both generous), that would leave maybe 1 in 7 going to hogwarts, when the books act like the majority do.

Most assumptions that try to make the society we see work come out at something between 10.000-20.000.
 
[X] Talk to Hagrid about your concerns.
[X] Just tell her that Neville's been locked out of the common room before. Ask her to help make sure he isn't again.
 
[X] Talk to Hagrid about your concerns
[X] Just tell her that Neville's been locked out of the common room before. Ask her to help make sure he isn't again
 
[X] Just tell her that Neville's been locked out of the common room before. Ask her to help make sure he isn't again

[X] Talk to Hagrid about your concerns

With Zagreus vision, although it's unlikely that she will change her worldview anytime soon, she will almost certainly have to rethink some of her preconceptions about foretelling, since Zagreus has talked about things he wasn't supposed to know, and McGonagall can spot a liar when she sees one. Her not dismissing completely Zagreus warnings says a lot about how much she has taken into consideration what he said.
Probably not. The issue is, she's had to deal with her coworker for years, with a lot of false positives, and a lot of sherry consumed. Who has also been well, the only real experience most have with Divination. And has no doubt had to deal with years of students complaining ala Hermione.

The art she might respect. The person teaching it.... less so.
 
[X] Don't talk to Hagrid about your concerns.
[X] Share the details of your vision, as you've shared with Neville himself. Ask her to keep an eye out on Neville.
 
[X] Talk to Hagrid about your concerns.
[X] Share the details of your vision, as you've shared with Neville himself. Ask her to keep an eye out on Neville.
 
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