OkayishGatsby
This Titan is Fine
Hang on, you know who'd be useful? Tawara no Touta. Demon killer and unlimited rice. It'll take a bit to get people to accept a new staple food, but it'll handle the bulk of food issues.
A Light in the End of Time (Warhammer Fantasy/Fate)
- Thread starter BlackHadou
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BlackHadou
Bunny-Sensei
Reality is that I'm taking the top five servants regardless of overlap and I'll keep my own counsel on what exactly their stats might look like. Much like Warhammer, there isn't a perfect fit for the problem. Even picking nothing but Crowns would leave huge holes in your lineup just by virtue of Bretonnia.
...
*Blinks.*
Well. Looks like I just got blindsided.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I have not, and it's definitely clear that I'm missing some information on how these two would act. I'll probably change my vote then, in the long run it's probably better for us to have two more powerful servants than to have Enkidu and Gilgamesh running around who knows where killing who knows what. On that note, as I've been trawling the FGO wiki for ideas, I saw Archetype: Earth aka Arcueid and I'm just wondering how she'd work here. Like, would she just have no power whatsoever since this isn't her world? I'm mostly just wondering since her NP is an EX-ranked Anti-Army Noble Phantasm and it'd probably be hilarious to throw this vampire princess at the Von Carsteins and Nagash
BlackHadou
Bunny-Sensei
I'm vetoing Archtype Earth. The Types are long gone from this section of the universe and there's no way Earth is giving up both of its trump cards.
Gil and Enkidu literally beeline for each other in Strange Fake and drop an Enuma Ellish on each other immediately. Like, it'd go south, fast.
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- He/Him
Oh geez, yeah, they definitely wouldn't be a good inclusion in any way then. And very fair for Archetype: Earth! She sticks out as broken in a franchise built on OP characters.
Spectral Waltz
Scatterbrained Writer
- Location
- Walking the Endless Corridors
I originally picked Tamamo for her intrigue and just slotted her on there because she was the only one who could fit that position in my votes
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- He/Him
How bad of an idea is Ishtar in other peoples opinions? I dismissed her immediately since I had my mind on Gil and Enkidu and Ishtar certainly doesn't mix with that duo, but now that I'm dismissing them I'm wondering about her. The biggest issue would be that spoiled personality of hers, but would it be worth it for that absurd NP, possible Diplomatic benefits of her beauty, and getting to sorta have "Artoria", "Shirou" and "Rin" as a neat trio here?
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Ah, I completely forgot about Ereshkigal, shame on me. As a goddess of the Underworld she'd be a good choice as well, surely able to deal with all of Nagash's Nagashness, as well as her NP being a bit more than a "Fuck that mountain range over there' weapon like Ishtar's
- Location
- America
[x] Beowulf
-[x] Berserker
As an anti-monster beatstick, Beowulf's one of the best. Miniscule Mad Enhancement means he can at least basically coordinate with a plan instead of just being set to rampage on a battlefield in the hope he eventually finds the threat he's needed for. Combat ability aside, he was also a wise ruler that had the role thrust onto him instead of grasping for a throne out of personal ambition. The best alternates I think have been put forward for the role are Arjuna's overwhelming power common to Indian heroes, the sheer skill and versatility of Herakles, or to send Scylla to fight monster-to-monster. This choice for that role is nakedly pushing my own biases.
[x] Oda Nobunaga
-[x] Avenger
We're starting in Bretonnia. As I understand it, that means a large and oppressed underclass that Nobunaga's methods would put to effective use under the condition certain reforms are forced through. Anti-magic spec, capable troop leader, and social reformer; class for consistency with the existing votes for the same.
[x] Mordred Pendragon
-[x] Saber
She's a straight shooter, capable combatant, and the best administrator among the Round Table by a mile. A more than capable all rounder for mass combat, independent action, or managing the civilian populace.
[x] Sakamoto Ryouma
-[x] Lancer
He was first and foremost a unifier, one I expect to both keep our own leadership in line and build alliances with other powers.
[x] Sanada Yukimura
-[x] Lancer
The Hassans are a blunt instrument for a single role. I don't trust them to cultivate foreign assets, sabotage supply lines, or stoke a popular uprising to install an administration more amenable to our interests. Sanada and potentially his Braves fill an Intrigue gap that seems common to most proposals so far.
-[x] Berserker
As an anti-monster beatstick, Beowulf's one of the best. Miniscule Mad Enhancement means he can at least basically coordinate with a plan instead of just being set to rampage on a battlefield in the hope he eventually finds the threat he's needed for. Combat ability aside, he was also a wise ruler that had the role thrust onto him instead of grasping for a throne out of personal ambition. The best alternates I think have been put forward for the role are Arjuna's overwhelming power common to Indian heroes, the sheer skill and versatility of Herakles, or to send Scylla to fight monster-to-monster. This choice for that role is nakedly pushing my own biases.
[x] Oda Nobunaga
-[x] Avenger
We're starting in Bretonnia. As I understand it, that means a large and oppressed underclass that Nobunaga's methods would put to effective use under the condition certain reforms are forced through. Anti-magic spec, capable troop leader, and social reformer; class for consistency with the existing votes for the same.
[x] Mordred Pendragon
-[x] Saber
She's a straight shooter, capable combatant, and the best administrator among the Round Table by a mile. A more than capable all rounder for mass combat, independent action, or managing the civilian populace.
[x] Sakamoto Ryouma
-[x] Lancer
He was first and foremost a unifier, one I expect to both keep our own leadership in line and build alliances with other powers.
[x] Sanada Yukimura
-[x] Lancer
The Hassans are a blunt instrument for a single role. I don't trust them to cultivate foreign assets, sabotage supply lines, or stoke a popular uprising to install an administration more amenable to our interests. Sanada and potentially his Braves fill an Intrigue gap that seems common to most proposals so far.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[] Ryouma
-[] Lancer
[] Ereshkigal
-[] Lancer
[] Nobunaga
-[] Avenger
[] Old Man of the Mountain
-[] Assassin
[] Mordred
-[] Saber
Editing my vote, and making a new post cause I don't think SV counts them if they're edited, after learning just how bad of an idea Gil and Enkidu would be, and learning that Constantine's NP apparently has a limit of 7000 people, which makes him less capable of defending cities than I thought he'd be. Gotta agree with other people on Ryouma, Nobu, and Mordred, and Old Man of the Mountain remains my go to choice for a monster/hero murdering machine. Lastly, I think Ereshkigal would be a really good choice for counteracting Nagash, the vamps, and maybe salvaging souls from Chaos? Plus she's a Rin who doesn't have a trash personality like a certain Goddess of Love.
-[] Lancer
[] Ereshkigal
-[] Lancer
[] Nobunaga
-[] Avenger
[] Old Man of the Mountain
-[] Assassin
[] Mordred
-[] Saber
Editing my vote, and making a new post cause I don't think SV counts them if they're edited, after learning just how bad of an idea Gil and Enkidu would be, and learning that Constantine's NP apparently has a limit of 7000 people, which makes him less capable of defending cities than I thought he'd be. Gotta agree with other people on Ryouma, Nobu, and Mordred, and Old Man of the Mountain remains my go to choice for a monster/hero murdering machine. Lastly, I think Ereshkigal would be a really good choice for counteracting Nagash, the vamps, and maybe salvaging souls from Chaos? Plus she's a Rin who doesn't have a trash personality like a certain Goddess of Love.
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Spectral Waltz
Scatterbrained Writer
- Location
- Walking the Endless Corridors
Yeah Ishtar's a terrible idea, I'm not sure if I'd want to bring Eresh either though, she's very much a blunt instrument and I don't think she does fine detail especially well. There are plenty of heroes with only slightly less raw power who are considerably better at solutions that don't involve redrawing maps.
Spectral Waltz
Scatterbrained Writer
- Location
- Walking the Endless Corridors
Current tally, I merged the votes that include tags and full names with partial names. Happy with the top three, not so sure about the rest.
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- He/Him
I'm fine with redrawing the maps when it comes to certain parts of the Old World. Hell Pit, Castle Drakenhof, just the entirety of Nordland tbh, anywhere the Druchii have spent too much time in, etc. The list goes on and on with places that could really use a good ol' fashioned razing to the ground. Hell even the moon could use a good nuking, if that wouldn't lead to horrific amounts of chaotic, corrupting material raining down onto the planet like an unholy meteor shower.
Hmmm... let's throw in a few options.
[x] Herakles
- [x] Archer
One of the key points of Herakles's legend was not his overwhelming strength, but his ability to come up with clever solutions to problems. I feel like Archer is a good class to emphasize that, as opposed to Berserker which minimizes it.
As a Servant, I see Herakles's role as being the one to clear threats. If some Chaos Champion, some Monster, or some rogue Servant bears down on us, he breaks them. If the Orcs get rolling, he can kill their boss. He's a champion, and as champions go it doesn't get much killier.
Personality-wise, I feel like he could work with a team, rather than rushing off to do his own thing.
[x] Rama
- [x] Archer
Yes, Archer, not Saber. This is aiming for his time leading the Vanara against the isle of Lanka, where he demonstrated many feats of archery. One notable point is responding to his army coming under threat from the sky being covered by arrows by shooting each arrow out of the sky with his bow.
As a champion, he seems pretty great for turning the tide of battles and being a second general so that we aren't limited to doomstacking about. Personality-wise, he is... not really humble, but pretty good at working with others.
[x] Romulus
- [x] Saber
We're starting in Brettonia, a fairly civilized region. Presumably, we'll be helping to reorganize them to better stand during the end times, and so a great statesman seems good. Romulus, being to some extent the Roman civilization anthropomorphized, is a pretty good shot at that. I'm not entirely sure on the class for him, so I went with Saber for the plough he used to mark where Rome's walls would be built. Ruler might also work, if it didn't have other connotations. I'd say Lancer for the one weapon I can recall him using, but Septem ruined that.
Personality wise he's probably too authoritative to work well in a team overfull with massive egos, but with just one it'll probably work?
[x] Tawara no Touta
- [x] Archer
As noted earlier, he has fairly good utility as a demon slayer, making him good as a second champion to pair with the second general in Rama. This expands the ability to fight on two fronts at once, as needed.
Most importantly though is that infinite rice bale. In times of peace, it would break Brettonia by potentially displacing the large peasant caste. With the end times inbound, and a nationbuilding hero, that goes from problem to solution.
Personality wise, he seems unlikely to cause many problems.
[x] Chevalier d'Eon
- [x] Saber
Whatever happens, we'll be pushing forward a court of rather foreign powerhouses into Brettonia. If we want them to interface with society smoothly, having someone able to help that along would be great. And while Brettonia isn't France, it's about as close as we'll get, so the applications of a professional French spy should be fairly clear.
Later on, well, they're a professional spy. Applying enough force in the right place is the key to victory, and the rest of the lineup is overachieving on the 'enough force' side of things.
Personality wise, they seem unlikely to cause many problems.
[x] Herakles
- [x] Archer
One of the key points of Herakles's legend was not his overwhelming strength, but his ability to come up with clever solutions to problems. I feel like Archer is a good class to emphasize that, as opposed to Berserker which minimizes it.
As a Servant, I see Herakles's role as being the one to clear threats. If some Chaos Champion, some Monster, or some rogue Servant bears down on us, he breaks them. If the Orcs get rolling, he can kill their boss. He's a champion, and as champions go it doesn't get much killier.
Personality-wise, I feel like he could work with a team, rather than rushing off to do his own thing.
[x] Rama
- [x] Archer
Yes, Archer, not Saber. This is aiming for his time leading the Vanara against the isle of Lanka, where he demonstrated many feats of archery. One notable point is responding to his army coming under threat from the sky being covered by arrows by shooting each arrow out of the sky with his bow.
As a champion, he seems pretty great for turning the tide of battles and being a second general so that we aren't limited to doomstacking about. Personality-wise, he is... not really humble, but pretty good at working with others.
[x] Romulus
- [x] Saber
We're starting in Brettonia, a fairly civilized region. Presumably, we'll be helping to reorganize them to better stand during the end times, and so a great statesman seems good. Romulus, being to some extent the Roman civilization anthropomorphized, is a pretty good shot at that. I'm not entirely sure on the class for him, so I went with Saber for the plough he used to mark where Rome's walls would be built. Ruler might also work, if it didn't have other connotations. I'd say Lancer for the one weapon I can recall him using, but Septem ruined that.
Personality wise he's probably too authoritative to work well in a team overfull with massive egos, but with just one it'll probably work?
[x] Tawara no Touta
- [x] Archer
As noted earlier, he has fairly good utility as a demon slayer, making him good as a second champion to pair with the second general in Rama. This expands the ability to fight on two fronts at once, as needed.
Most importantly though is that infinite rice bale. In times of peace, it would break Brettonia by potentially displacing the large peasant caste. With the end times inbound, and a nationbuilding hero, that goes from problem to solution.
Personality wise, he seems unlikely to cause many problems.
[x] Chevalier d'Eon
- [x] Saber
Whatever happens, we'll be pushing forward a court of rather foreign powerhouses into Brettonia. If we want them to interface with society smoothly, having someone able to help that along would be great. And while Brettonia isn't France, it's about as close as we'll get, so the applications of a professional French spy should be fairly clear.
Later on, well, they're a professional spy. Applying enough force in the right place is the key to victory, and the rest of the lineup is overachieving on the 'enough force' side of things.
Personality wise, they seem unlikely to cause many problems.
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Nottheunmaker
Altman be praised
- Location
- USG Ishimura
[X] Tawara no Touta
-[X] Archer
[X] Leonardo DaVinci
-[X] Caster
[X] Nobunaga
-[X] Avenger
[X] Mordred
-[X] Saber
[X] Beowulf
-[X] Berserker
I've been convinced, though I wasn't super invested in my original picks anyway. This seems fun.
-[X] Archer
[X] Leonardo DaVinci
-[X] Caster
[X] Nobunaga
-[X] Avenger
[X] Mordred
-[X] Saber
[X] Beowulf
-[X] Berserker
I've been convinced, though I wasn't super invested in my original picks anyway. This seems fun.
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Example Sheets Set 1
BlackHadou
Bunny-Sensei
So, I was asked to give an idea of what some of the servant sheets might look like. I just did the top four at the time I started making them, though I'll admit, they aren't final. It might give you a bit more of an idea on what aspects of a Servant is emphasised. They aren't final, but some of them will likely be used even if you don't pick them, so...
- Mordred
- Sakamoto Ryouma
- Arjuna
- Oda Nobunaga
[X] Tawara no Touta
-[X] Archer
[x] Old Man of the Mountain
-[X] Assassin
[X] Scathach
-[X] Lancer
[X] Ryouma
-[X] Lancer
[X] Leonardo DaVinci
-[X] Caster
I just want Merlin to show up with Arturia. I am surprised there haven't been more people voting for Round table Servants. I don't actually know anything about Tawara or Ryouma but I trust the other people that posted about them and their arguments for them. It is tempting to swap one of these people out for Da Vinci though so we can have some dedicated to the Sciences versus magic.
By the way how good is caster Arturia? O what if the Lady of the Lake was used instead as a servant...
Edit: Changed Merlin to Leonardo DaVinci then since they are a genius and will help advance technology.
-[X] Archer
[x] Old Man of the Mountain
-[X] Assassin
[X] Scathach
-[X] Lancer
[X] Ryouma
-[X] Lancer
[X] Leonardo DaVinci
-[X] Caster
I just want Merlin to show up with Arturia. I am surprised there haven't been more people voting for Round table Servants. I don't actually know anything about Tawara or Ryouma but I trust the other people that posted about them and their arguments for them. It is tempting to swap one of these people out for Da Vinci though so we can have some dedicated to the Sciences versus magic.
By the way how good is caster Arturia? O what if the Lady of the Lake was used instead as a servant...
Edit: Changed Merlin to Leonardo DaVinci then since they are a genius and will help advance technology.
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BlackHadou
Bunny-Sensei
Merlin is vetoed. He isn't actually a servant. Likewise, the Lady of the Lake is an elemental.
Arturia is serviceable in battle, but most of her abilities is not really useful in the current situation, since the sacred sword has already been forged. Unless you wanna burgle a castle, in that case not many could stop her and basically none of them are in Bretonnia.
Arturia is serviceable in battle, but most of her abilities is not really useful in the current situation, since the sacred sword has already been forged. Unless you wanna burgle a castle, in that case not many could stop her and basically none of them are in Bretonnia.
AnonymousRabbit
Rabbit Faced
[X] Tawara no Touta
-[X] Archer
[X] Mebd
-[X] Rider
[X] Nobunaga
-[X] Avenger
[X] Chiyome
-[X] Assassin
[X] Da Vinci
-[X] Caster
-[X] Archer
[X] Mebd
-[X] Rider
[X] Nobunaga
-[X] Avenger
[X] Chiyome
-[X] Assassin
[X] Da Vinci
-[X] Caster
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Example Sheets Set 2
BlackHadou
Bunny-Sensei
Alright. I think I now have an example sheet for every servant that got more then one vote. As before these are subject to change.
- Hassan-I-Sabbah
- Beowulf
- Tawara no Touta
- Sanada Yukimura
- Michiel de Ruyter
- Herakles
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Are famous Fictional characters viable too? Like Sherlock. And what of multiple of the same. Like Arutria Saber. Can we summon Grands as Grands or must it be in a normal Servant vessel. What about servants that have some out of context abilities how will they be treated.
Also people I think there is no one who could do Anti-Chaos better then a Saviour class Like Jesus.
Also people I think there is no one who could do Anti-Chaos better then a Saviour class Like Jesus.
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BlackHadou
Bunny-Sensei
Only ones with a historical basis.
Only one person of the same identity allowed. You may not have an Arturia of every class.
You might recall that Jesus idea of salvation involved him dying. Generally speaking, a Saviour would never answer the summons, since they already did their job. Also bluntly, I don't feel comfortable writing Jesus in a English speaking audience.
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Does Sherlock count then? I mean lots of people thought him real.
Also when I said Jesus I was thinking more along the lines of him diving into Hell to get the sinners out.
Also when I said Jesus I was thinking more along the lines of him diving into Hell to get the sinners out.