The Shadow of Old Transgressions (Homeworld/Mass Effect Crossover Quest)

I too find myself tempted not to break in for the Shinies.... though that is more due to the fallout if the Keepers arrive and we have looted Progenitor Tech they can detect.

On the other hand, the place has been recently looted and we may lose out on the chance if we do not seize the option now.

I'm thinking maybe we should break in anyway, then if the Keepers do detect whatever the Shiny is, we can offer to share maybe?
 
That is a good point - whatever is sealed up in that vault could very well be equally or more valuable than the data alone.

...

Crap, I just had something of an epiphany. Until now I haven't been considering the possibility of the Protheans or Inusannon having something to do with the Progenitors, because I haven't been thinking about the history of these two fused settings until literally this very moment.

Sajuuk does kinda sound like a Prothean name/word...
 
[X] Crack It Open
Omnimercurial won me over to their way of thinking on this one. Also @TheOmnimercurial dont forget to vote. 😝
[X] Wait for the Keepers, but hack the Gravity Well Generator and install a killswitch able to shut it down, just in case we need to use it for an emergency escape.
I'm hoping we get the Keepers as an ally, but we don't really know how they think or how easily-offended they might be.
[X] Work on the Fleet
-[X] Optimize Schematic (Engineering): Marduk & Rawaan
-[X] Involve your Flicker Friends
Don't get me wrong, I still want that Monomolecular armor so badly that I can almost taste it, but both the Raawan and the Marduk deserve some sweet, sweet loving if they're gonna keep up with the cruiser hulls that we're about to begin building.(Hang on a tic, could we upgrade both the Marduk and the Raawan at the same time? Eh, probably better to do them one at a time anyways since Laverna isn't back yet).
[X] Pick a Codex/Interlude
-[X] Progenitor legends and myths - Sajuuk
 
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[X] Crack It Open
[X] Wait for the Keepers, but hack the Gravity Well Generator and install a killswitch able to shut it down, just in case we need to use it for an emergency escape.
[X] Work on the Fleet
-[X] Optimize Schematic (Engineering): Marduk & Rawaan
-[X] Involve your Flicker Friends
[X] Pick a Codex/Interlude
-[X] Progenitor legends and myths - Sajuuk

@Geas yeah I struggle to keep up to date with both SB and SV, my health is kind of n ongoing issue ^_^°
 
[X] Crack It Open
[X] Wait for the Keepers, but hack the Gravity Well Generator and install a killswitch able to shut it down, just in case we need to use it for an emergency escape.
[X] Work on the Fleet
-[X] Optimize Schematic (Engineering): Marduk & Rawaan
-[X] Involve your Flicker Friends
[X] Pick a Codex/Interlude
-[X] Progenitor legends and myths - Sajuuk
 
Scheduled vote count started by Arcanestomper on Dec 2, 2022 at 11:59 PM, finished with 9 posts and 4 votes.

  • [X] Crack It Open
    [X] Wait for the Keepers, but hack the Gravity Well Generator and install a killswitch able to shut it down, just in case we need to use it for an emergency escape.
    [X] Work on the Fleet
    -[X] Optimize Schematic (Engineering): Marduk & Rawaan
    -[X] Involve your Flicker Friends (???): ([X]
    [X] Pick a Codex/Interlude
    -[X] Progenitor legends and myths - Sajuuk
    [X] Wait for the Keepers
    [X] Work on the Fleet
    -[X] Involve your Flicker Friends (???): ([X]
    -[X] Kadeshi/Kushan
Arcanestomper threw 1 20-faced dice. Reason: Keeper Disposition Total: 17
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Codex: Progenitor Myths - Sajuuk
Sajuuk - He whose hand shapes what is.
-Rereti Manuscript ca. 5201 GSY

In the time when the galaxy was young Sajuuk strode across the nebulas. The galaxy was his garden and he tended it with care. He scooped up gas into stars and molded the planet with exquisite detail. Others were there as well. Progenitor gods who helped in their own way, Maanja with her life weaving, Sojo strewing asteroids, and other lesser gods. But it was Sajuuk who showed the way.

For many eons this was so and the progenitors rested in great palaces while they watched the galaxy they had formed spin in its slow dance. Everything was good until the great devourer struck. The sly dragon Tiamat waited until Sajuuk had left to wander the galaxy as he did, and then she led her dark brood from the dark void to attack the proud progenitors. The progenitors rose to defend their world, but the years of their peaceful tending had been long and their weapons had been cast aside in ages past.

Even so the progenitors were no feeble foe and they fought Tiamat and her brood with their divine power. But though they slew many of her monstrous offspring they were no match for Tiamat herself, and her terrible magic. One by one she devoured them and destroyed their grand halls.

Until at last Sajuuk returned from his wanderings. He was aghast at the destruction and the few survivors begged him to slay Tiamat and bring peace back to the galaxy. Agreeing he tracked Tiamat to her latest conquest. The Hall of Armat, the Flame Triumphant. Sajuuk found that the once bright halls had been shrouded in darkness and many monsters attempted to devour him as he approached, but he slew them all and continued forward.

At least he found Tiamat laying in the center of the hall. She devoured the corpse of Armat with her wicked maw and laid foul eggs on his throne. Seeing this Sajuuk could not abide and he sprang forth to smite her with his mighty lance. Tiamat however was not taken unawares and returned his blow with claws and teeth.

For an age they fought and everything in their path was destroyed by their cataclysmic struggles. Back and forth it went until at last Sajuuk stood victorious atop Tiamat's corrupt corpse. He shouted in victory, and then collapsed. For even as he slew her Tiamat had bitten him with her toxic maw.

As the surviving progenitors approached they found that Sajuuk lay dying atop the corpse of his fallen foe. He beckoned them closer and when they arrived he tore his own heart out. For each surviving progenitor he tore off a piece and bade them hide his heart in a secret place so that one day he might return if the galaxy needed him again. Then Sajuuk breathed his last.

The progenitors shed great tears made of stardust and carried Sajuuk away to bury him in the in the heart of the galaxy he had shaped and protected. Sealing Sajuuk's tomb behind them the progenitors then separated. Each carrying a piece of his heart to hide it in their own secret places.

-A Bentusi's Children's Tale cs. 7053 GSY

From their records gleaned from Progenitor archives the Bentusi are fairly sure that Sajuuk was once a major historical figure among the progenitors. He features in a great many of their records as being a great figure in many aspects of their society and over a span of time that has caused many debates over whether Sajuuk was immortal or if it was instead a title given to powerful Progenitors.

It is known that Sajuuk was one both one of their most inspired inventors responsible for much Progenitor technology as well as one of their leading generals. Although it isn't clear exactly how many of the myths about the Progenitor's demise are true it does seem likely that he fought against it and helped shield the younger races of the galaxy from the same destruction.
 
Turn 6.4 Waiting and Waiting

The Kiln Stacks

System Omicron Sixteen
Outer System


You decide that the most diplomatic thing to do is to wait for the Keepers to arrive and try to talk them out of fighting you. So you wait, and wait, and wait some more. While you wait you take some time to look into the contents of the vault you recovered from the progenitor station.

It appears to contain some kind of hyperspace generator, but not like what you've ever seen before. After you ponder it for some time you manage to piece together that it will take a ship into a slightly different dimension than the hyperspace ships normally enter. There doesn't seem to be much point to this so you start working out the mathematical models to simulate what the result would be.

It takes you a lot of number crunching, hyperspace theory is not your area of expertise, but you eventually come to the conclusion that the purpose is stealth. Entering this new dimension is much faster than forming a quantum waveform to enter hyperspace. And it appears likely that a ship in this dimension would be able to move much more freely than the simple vector movements of hyperspace travel. Combined with another set of components you found that seem to actually allow limited observation of real space a ship in this dimension could jump out nearly instantly and then observe its enemies as it positioned itself for another attack.

The disadvantage seems to be that this new dimension has a larger spatial reference frame than real space. So travel is actually slower than in real space by a substantial amount. As such you decide to name this new dimension subspace and begin assembling the vault components into a working subspace drive.

You keep your sensors peeled for any keepers through this whole process. You didn't expect to spend more than a few hours on it at most, but you've nearly completed the final assembly when you finally feel a faint ripple in hyperspace.

As you watch a green gate opens near your position, however, rather than the keeper fleet you were expecting the only thing to emerge is a small grasper. It's not even a whole grasper as one of its manipulator arms has been sheared off. It still attempts to make a valiant effort to move towards you for grappling purposes, but it goes dark before it makes it even halfway. Presumably from damage caused by whatever destroyed its arm.

Confused, and slightly worried, you scoop up the grasper and analyze its memories. Between battle damage and the Keeper encryption protocols you don't get much, but it seems clear that the Keepers are fighting a fierce battle with someone. And you now have the coordinates of the battle.

Not wanting to jump into a firefight alone you decide to finally hack the inhibitor and disable it before jumping back to the fleet.



Sliding out of your own quantum gate you are surprised to find that the construction gantry has been completed and Aurora is well into the construction of the new cruiser frame. Although perhaps you shouldn't be surprised. Between carefully digging into the progenitor station and spending so long waiting for a Keeper fleet you've actually been gone for quite a while.

What is more surprising though is that Ulysses isn't back yet. You wonder if he stumbled into another Keeper inhibitor. "Where's Ulysses, has he come back yet."

"No, we've actually been worried about both of you being gone for so long. What happened?"

"I got trapped in a Keeper inhibitor field, but they never showed up to spring the trap. I think some kind of trouble is happening in this cluster."

"Wraiths?"

"No, no I don't think so. The grasper I analyzed was confused, but I didn't see any wraith ships."

"You fought a grasper!"

"Oh right. A grasper did eventually show up, but it had major battle damage. So I hacked it before coming back." You float the grasper out of your cargo bay so the others can examine it. Maybe they'll be able to get more data out of it than you can. Though you wish Laverna was here for this sort of thing.

There's a few moments of silence as Iuno and Laverna digest your report as well as try to hack into the grasper themselves.

"We should go find Ulysses, I didn't like us all being scattered around. And I especially don't like it if the Keepers are fighting something that's giving them trouble."

"What if we miss him though. We don't know if he's still on his planned route. You should stay and finish the cruiser. You're so close and I've been helping our friends upgrade their ships. They'll be able to help."

"We shouldn't be separated at all though. We should either all go or all wait in my opinion. What do you think Valerius?"

You've been letting Iuno and Aurora debate the point because you aren't sure yourself. You see valid reasons for both options, and even a third one of helping the Keepers.

[ ] "Iuno and I will go."
You and Iuno will go look for Ulysses. You'll have to start with his first planned destination and work forwards so you don't miss him. But you won't need to scan the whole system so it should be faster. Aurora will stay at your base camp to continue work on the cruiser and to catch Ulysses if he comes back by himself.

[ ] "We should wait here."
Ulysses is tough. He can make it back himself, and you don't like the idea of leaving Aurora alone. Your whole group will wait here and help Aurora finish the cruiser construction. Maybe Laverna will even be able to catch up with you. Based on your experience with Memnon you think she should be finished and following your beacon trail by now.

[ ] "Actually we should help the Keepers."
Nothing makes a good impression like fighting a common enemy. The Keepers are fighting right now and you know where. But you don't know how long that battle will last. If you jump now you should all be able to make a difference and get on the Keepers good side.



[ ] Work on the Fleet
-[ ] Pick a Research Project.
-[ ] Pick a Character to work on the project.
-Current Options: Iuno

[ ] Pick a Codex/Interlude
-[ ] Write In
Pick something you'd like to know more about.
 
Thanks for the update. I feel like I missed a lot of the lore when I played Homeworld after reading the codices.

[X] "We should wait here."

Not sure what research or codex to vote for, will think about it some.
 
It takes you a lot of number crunching, hyperspace theory is not your area of expertise, but you eventually come to the conclusion that the purpose is stealth. Entering this new dimension is much faster than forming a quantum waveform to enter hyperspace. And it appears likely that a ship in this dimension would be able to move much more freely than the simple vector movements of hyperspace travel. Combined with another set of components you found that seem to actually allow limited observation of real space a ship in this dimension could jump out nearly instantly and then observe its enemies as it positioned itself for another attack.

The disadvantage seems to be that this new dimension has a larger spatial reference frame than real space. So travel is actually slower than in real space by a substantial amount. As such you decide to name this new dimension subspace and begin assembling the vault components into a working subspace drive.
Thats sounds as a perfect for eother a small drone that sneak up to enemy to fire a massive alpha strike volley of torpedoes at point blank and then cloaking again to retreat and rearm at friendly ship.

Or a mine layer that creates suprise fields of mines just before enemy.

Actualy depending how ships in subspace interact with normal space a good idea would be to hide a mothership/carrier like ships there. Because when they are launching/retriving other ships they have no advantage from being on battlefield to be shot at. So instead they could move 'sideways' to be safe.

[X] "Actually we should help the Keepers."

I assume that means Aurora will remain here bulding cruiser waiting for Ulusses? And if she finish before he returns she will go to help us after letting behind a beacon so he will know where to go?

By the way do we know when we may get more Skill Ranks? Like beyond two ranks we got at start of Quest we didnt had any. And while one came from our backstory the second one came from spending some time overviewing our first serious battle.

And since then we had a lot more stuff happening while also doing lot of engineering work.
 
I assume that means Aurora will remain here bulding cruiser waiting for Ulusses? And if she finish before he returns she will go to help us after letting behind a beacon so he will know where to go?

By the way do we know when we may get more Skill Ranks? Like beyond two ranks we got at start of Quest we didnt had any. And while one came from our backstory the second one came from spending some time overviewing our first serious battle.

And since then we had a lot more stuff happening while also doing lot of engineering work.

Actually Aurora will go with you if you are going into battle. Since you'll likely need all the help you can get.

Honestly I haven't really thought about what to do with skill ranks. They used to impact battles. But I moved to a more narrative battle style as your fleet expanded, and I'm not sure what to do with skills now.
 
[X] "Actually we should help the Keepers."

[X] Work on the Fleet
-[X] Design Drone Core
--[X] Gatekeeper Destroyer
-[X] Iuno

[X] Pick a Codex/Interlude
-[X] The Wraiths


So I notice we have some spare bodies (Destroyers) laying around. May as well get a core that can pilot them, so we can get some more firepower!
 
I just re-read some of the older codices and realized just how much I love this fusion of Homeworld and Mass Effect.

@Arcanestomper is humanity present in the universe of this quest? I know you have fused the Hiigarans and Krogan, but is Earth around and is humanity doing anything notable on the galactic stage? I am asking because if the answer is yes I am going to vote for a codex on what the Bentusi know about humans.

Also I had to do this:
[jk] Pick a Codex/Interlude
-[jk] Commander Shepard's favorite store on the Citadel
 
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So I notice we have some spare bodies (Destroyers) laying around. May as well get a core that can pilot them, so we can get some more firepower!

Which destroyer are you talking about. I think you should only have Iuno's old liner, but I might have forgotten something.

I just re-read some of the older codices and realized just how much I love this fusion of Homeworld and Mass Effect.

@Arcanestomper is humanity present in the universe of this quest? I know you have fused the Hiigarans and Krogan, but is Earth around and is humanity doing anything notable on the galactic stage? I am asking because if the answer is yes I am going to vote for a codex on what the Bentusi know about humans.

Also I had to do this:
[jk] Pick a Codex/Interlude
-[jk] Commander Shepard's favorite store on the Citadel

It might not be obvious, but the Bentusi are humans. Valerius is Commander Shepard. Not literally of course, but he's taken that narrative role.
 
Aiyah... this one's a bit of a pickler. I really wanna go look for Ulysses... but he's a big boy and doesn't need us holding his hand, and I doubt that he'll be unlucky enough to get his aft kicked in yet again.

[X] "Actually we should help the Keepers."

We came here to look for Keepers, so it stands to reason that we should go help them ou- ... I really, really hope that this isn't the Exiles picking yet another fight. Also, it's entirely possible that Ulysses might already be involved in this fight, so that's even more reason to get our keels over there.

[X] Work on the Fleet
-[X] Design Drone Core
--[X] Gatekeeper Destroyer
-[X] Iuno

@Rivenscryr has a good idea here. Waste not, want not, and there's not sense in letting perfectly good Bentusi destroyers sit around gathering dust once we start transferring into cruiser hulls, when we can instead make them into the workhorses of our drone fleet (sorry Monomolecular Armor, I swear I'll try to vote for you next time). Yeah, we don't have any Gatekeeper Destroyers to spare at the moment, but we will the moment someone transfers into the new cruiser we've got cooking.

Admittedly, I'm torn on codex entries. On one hand, a general codex about all we know of the Wraiths is probably a good idea. On the other hand, I'm wondering if the Citadel actually is present here... If so, is it a Progenitor relic, as it with the original incarnation in Mass Effect, do they use it believing that it's a Progenitor relic? Is the Taiidan Republic using it as their center of government?

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[X] Pick a Codex/Interlude
-[] The Capital and Leadership of the Taiidan Republic
-[X] Illuminated Primacy of Hanar
 
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Admittedly, I'm torn on codex entries. On one hand, a general codex about all we know of the Wraiths is probably a good idea. On the other hand, I'm wondering if the Citadel actually is present here... If so, is it a Progenitor relic, as it with the original incarnation in Mass Effect, do they use it believing that it's a Progenitor relic? Is the Taiidan Republic using it as their center of government?

[X] Pick a Codex/Interlude
-[X] The Capital and Leadership of the Taiidan Republic

That's the Grand Conclave. You've been there a few times. It's a big old progenitor station the Bentusi got working and the Galactic Council took over.
 
[X] "Actually we should help the Keepers."

[X] Work on the Fleet
-[X] Design Drone Core
--[X] Gatekeeper Destroyer
-[X] Iuno

[X] Pick a Codex/Interlude
-[X] Illuminated Primacy of Hanar

I wonder how are the crazy priest jellyfishes in this universe?
 
[X] "Actually we should help the Keepers."

[X] Work on the Fleet
-[X] Design Drone Core
--[X] Gatekeeper Destroyer
-[X] Iuno

[X] Pick a Codex/Interlude
-[X] Illuminated Primacy of Hanar

I wonder how are the crazy priest jellyfishes in this universe?

They are currently being raided by pirates.

Raider Rumble:
A small colony of the Illuminated Primacy is suffering from pirate problems. Raiders are attacking convoys as they travel to and from the colony. The Primacy does not have the naval capacity to deal with the raiders and has requested aid from the galactic council. Now Minister Scrimius has passed that request on to you. The Taiidan navy could deal with it, but the navy has a lot of bureaucratic red tape that needs to be waded through before it sends fleets out to deal with anything. You would certainly be able to take care of the problem a lot faster. It's definitely not the Ebony Pirates behind the raids, but the Primacy would be grateful if you dealt with it, and you'd save some lives. Ulysses thinks you might be able to parlay it into getting help from the Taiidan navy later. Since you would essentially be doing their job for them.
 
[X] "Actually we should help the Keepers."

[X] Work on the Fleet
-[X] Design Drone Core
--[X] Gatekeeper Destroyer
-[X] Iuno
 
It might not be obvious, but the Bentusi are humans. Valerius is Commander Shepard. Not literally of course, but he's taken that narrative role.
That's the Grand Conclave. You've been there a few times. It's a big old progenitor station the Bentusi got working and the Galactic Council took over.

I see, then this is clearly the correct vote:

[jk] Pick a Codex/Interlude
-[jk] Valerius's favorite store at the Grand Conclave
 
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