Remove ads

Age of Ice and Blood: A Pathfinder System Heroic Fantasy Quest

Voting is open
Reader mode
Those are not exactly foes I'd wish to fight and they are not attacking us directly...

@DragonParadox
What are they attacking exactly, did all the ships from the army that attacked Korman stay together so far, or are we only coming with some smaller part of them?
 
Crap, crap, crap, who went and missed off a flock of Air Elememtals? Was it Ohun @DragonParadox? One of those would be dangerous to fight. 10+ is a nightmare...

I'm not inclined to try to swim to one the other ships. That's not only slow, but also dangerous if there are Water Elementals prowling around the fleet. If we're not being attack, we should probably not do.anything to attract their attention, IMO.

[X] If Marcella or her crew are attacked, we will shoot them from the safety of the deck and be ready to repel any that fly close enough.
 
Last edited:
Goldfish said:
Crap, crap, crap, who went and missed off a flock of Air Elememtals? Was it Ohun @DragonParadox? One of those would be dangerous to fight. 10+ is a nightmare...

I'm not inclined to try to swim to one the other ships. That's not only slow, but also dangerous if there are Water Elementals prowling around the fleet. If we're not being attack, we should probably not do.anything to attract their attention, IMO.

[X] Shoot them from the safety of the deck and be ready to repel any than fly close
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Âre you sure we should shoot at them then?

I think I'd prefer not to fight unless attacked first.
 
Artemis1992 said:
Those are not exactly foes I'd wish to fight and they are not attacking us directly...

@DragonParadox
What are they attacking exactly, did all the ships from the army that attacked Korman stay together so far, or are we only coming with some smaller part of them?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

All of you are sticking together

Goldfish said:
Crap, crap, crap, who went and missed off a flock of Air Elememtals? Was it Ohun @DragonParadox? One of those would be dangerous to fight. 10+ is a nightmare...

I'm not inclined to try to swim to one the other ships. That's not only slow, but also dangerous if there are Water Elementals prowling around the fleet. If we're not being attack, we should probably not do.anything to attract their attention, IMO.

[X] If Marcella or her crew are attacked, we will shoot them from the safety of the deck and be ready to repel any that fly close enough.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

You do not know, but if you were to press Roland on who would even know to talk to them Ohun's name comes to mind
 
[X] If Marcella or her crew are attacked, we will shoot them from the safety of the deck and be ready to repel any that fly close enough.
 
I'm just not sure this is our fight.

If the elementals were attacking the Marcella, or if these were daemons or undead, I wouldn't hesitate to intervene.
But whatever attacks the Anwa of Lirman here might not be something we want as our enemy.
 
There is such thing as "allied obligations".
Although, looking at this thing, I can not understand why human civilization is still standing...
 
Artemis1992 said:
I'm just not sure this is our fight.

If the elementals were attacking the Marcella, or if these were daemons or undead, I wouldn't hesitate to intervene.
But whatever attacks the Anwa of Lirman here might not be something we want as our enemy.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Agreed. We don't have to leap into every fight, especially not when our only real way to do so is so sub-optimal and dangerous unless we draw them to attack the Marcella, which itself could be very dangerous for the crew.

Simple fact of the matter is that we can't really do much against the Air Elementals unless they come for us, and if they do that, we could be in trouble. DR 5/--, 68 HP, 21 AC, and two slam attacks with a very high bonus mean they're going to ignore most damage from all but a few sources, be extremely difficult to hit and no one among our crew can do it consistently, and anyone they attack is going to be almost certain to be hit at least once per round. They can also have a high fly speed with perfect maneuverability.

Fighting a whole swarm of these things is not the way to do this, IMO. There's more to this encounter that just a random attack, I think, and we need to see what that is before aggroing the Elementals.
 
Goldfish said:
Simple fact of the matter is that we can't really do much against the Air Elementals unless they come for us, and if they do that, we could be in trouble. DR 5/--, 68 HP, 21 AC, and two slam attacks with a very high bonus mean they're going to ignore most damage from all but a few sources, be extremely difficult to hit and no one among our crew can do it consistently, and anyone they attack is going to be almost certain to be hit at least once per round. They can also have a high fly speed with perfect maneuverability.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Don't forget the whirlwind.

If there are any good-enough fighter among the people here, the elementals can pick them up and drop them in the water.
 
Ok... I am literally looking at a one vote difference on a significant character vote. I think I am going to do an informational post to give you guys a bit more time to task this out
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Apr 25, 2022 at 10:30 AM, finished with 18 posts and 7 votes.
  • [X] If Marcella or her crew are attacked, we will shoot them from the safety of the deck and be ready to repel any that fly close enough.
    [X] Shoot them from the safety of the deck and be ready to repel any than fly close
Click to expand...
 
Hmm, so there is a big difference between defending ourselves in this case and at least acting to help defend nearby ships if the Elementals come into bow range.

I can see how that might be relevant, but I don't want to immediately leap to everyone's aid just because. There has to be some judgement made about when to attack and when doing so is both dangerous and futile. Shooting Air Elementals with our bows would requires well over a dozen hits to actually endanger one of them, but their AC is so high that even hitting once will come down more to luck than skill, especially once range increment penalties are applied.

And if the Elementals really are angry, as Inge exclaimed, us attacking them is not going to calm the situation.
 
Last edited:
Hmmmmm.

Not even attempting to help is a coward thing here. I don't wanna play Roland like that

What should we do then?
 
Tomcost said:
Hmmmmm.

Not even attempting to help is a coward thing here. I don't wanna play Roland like that

What should we do then?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I don't see it as cowardly at all. We literally lack the capacity to help in any meaningful way, but even attempting to do so is enough to make us a target as well. Inge's only relevant combat spell is very short-range and she wouldn't be any more likely to hit than our bowmen. Esha's got a couple of spell options that are a bit longer range (140 feet with Blindness/Deafness or 180 with Magic Missiles) but even that is quite limited unless an Elemental is practically right on top of us. Assuming she exhausted all 10 charges from her staff to cast 5 separate Magic Missiles spells, Esha could kill a single Elemental, assuming average damage rolls.

The best way we can help is by not further angering the Elementals and trying to rescue nearby sailors who have been tossed into the ocean or who have fallen overboard.
 
Last edited:
Goldfish said:
I don't see it as cowardly at all. We literally lack the capacity to help in any meaningful way, but even attempting to do so is enough to make us a target as well. Inge's only relevant combat spell is very short-range and she wouldn't be any more likely to hit than our bowmen. Esha's got a couple of spell options that are a bit longer range (140 feet with Blindness/Deafness or 180 with Magic Missiles) but even that is quite limited unless an Elemental is practically right on top of us. Assuming she exhausted all 10 charges from her staff to cast 5 separate Magic Missiles spells, Esha could kill a single Elemental, assuming average damage rolls.

The best way we can help is by not further angering the Elementals and trying to rescue nearby sailors who have been tossed into the ocean or who have fallen overboard.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Which is still not doing anything to help.

We could at least vote to rescue fallen sailors
 
Tomcost said:
Which is still not doing anything to help.

We could at least vote to rescue fallen sailors
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Okay, I'll add that to my vote.

[X] If Marcella or her crew are attacked, we will shoot them from the safety of the deck and be ready to repel any that fly close enough.
-[X] Although we will avoid attacking the Elementals unless they attack us first, we will attempt to rescue sailors who have fallen into the sea.
 
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Voting is open
Remove ads
Back
Top