Age of Ice and Blood: A Pathfinder System Heroic Fantasy Quest

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This seems like a conversation which could develop into a useful contact, if nothing else. It could also lead to paying work transporting their couriers swiftly and safely on our voyages.

[X] A man wearing not robes but red fringed pants, one of the first such garments you have ever seen would like to speak of your journeys. According to Esha he is one of an order sworn to carry messages to far off places while keeping them secret and safe from all eyes, likely he wants to hear of the less fantastical parts of your journeys, perhaps more
 
Training House Koire's guards shouldn't be much of a burden on us, especially if we have them training alongside our men with Tom leading most if not all of that.

The favor promised by Odorin could be used to help us secure suitable real estate. Maybe House Koire even has such a place for sell themselves, one we might be able to purchase at a discount while also helping to refill Koire's coffers.
 
[X] Antonio motions you over to speak of the raising of horses, particularly with an eye to capturing the wild horses of this land to perhaps breed with your own stock

Passive incomeeeee

I am interested in books too
 
[X] Antonio motions you over to speak of the raising of horses, particularly with an eye to capturing the wild horses of this land to perhaps breed with your own stock
 
[X] A man wearing not robes but red fringed pants, one of the first such garments you have ever seen would like to speak of your journeys. According to Esha he is one of an order sworn to carry messages to far off places while keeping them secret and safe from all eyes, likely he wants to hear of the less fantastical parts of your journeys, perhaps more
 
Breeding horses could be a very lucrative sort of side business, but it's going to be one years in the making. Before we get too involved in the planning of capturing wild horses to begin a breeding program, however, we're going to need to get better established here, find a suitable place to house them, determine the logistics of finding and transporting them, etc. Basically, nothing that's going to happen quickly.

It seems like using the opportunity this party brings to make useful contacts would be of more immediate benefit, IMO.

Hmm, I wonder if the order of couriers would be interested in horses? A courier could cover a lot of ground really quickly if they were using a small number of mounts, alternating between them to keep them from tiring out too quickly, and switching out to fresh ones regularly. The Pony Express was able to carry messages from the east coast of the US to the west coast in 10-ish days.
 
[X] A broad shouldered bear of a man wearing the tall cylindrical hats of the Priesthood of Ashinu, he had been the one to bless the opening of the feast thought you had not seen him since, yet now he seems interested in speaking to Swift Pebble, though she is hesitant to approach alone as she does not understand the gods of this realm all that well

- the otter is not a trained spy/assassin yet and may be influenced by less savory characters
 
[X] A man wearing not robes but red fringed pants, one of the first such garments you have ever seen would like to speak of your journeys. According to Esha he is one of an order sworn to carry messages to far off places while keeping them secret and safe from all eyes, likely he wants to hear of the less fantastical parts of your journeys, perhaps more
 
[x] Zaia managed to find a book seller of all things among the guests, but unsurprisingly rare books are quite expensive, too much so for him to make any promises of the company finances on his own account
 
[X] Antonio motions you over to speak of the raising of horses, particularly with an eye to capturing the wild horses of this land to perhaps breed with your own stock
 
[X] Antonio motions you over to speak of the raising of horses, particularly with an eye to capturing the wild horses of this land to perhaps breed with your own stock
 
[X] A broad shouldered bear of a man wearing the tall cylindrical hats of the Priesthood of Ashinu, he had been the one to bless the opening of the feast thought you had not seen him since, yet now he seems interested in speaking to Swift Pebble, though she is hesitant to approach alone as she does not understand the gods of this realm all that well
 
I like books! But I voted for horses last time so here once more to horses.

[X] Antonio motions you over to speak of the raising of horses, particularly with an eye to capturing the wild horses of this land to perhaps breed with your own stock
 
Voted closed. Let's see how this goes.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jan 31, 2022 at 12:09 PM, finished with 15 posts and 13 votes.

  • [X] Antonio motions you over to speak of the raising of horses, particularly with an eye to capturing the wild horses of this land to perhaps breed with your own stock
    [X] A man wearing not robes but red fringed pants, one of the first such garments you have ever seen would like to speak of your journeys. According to Esha he is one of an order sworn to carry messages to far off places while keeping them secret and safe from all eyes, likely he wants to hear of the less fantastical parts of your journeys, perhaps more
    [X] A broad shouldered bear of a man wearing the tall cylindrical hats of the Priesthood of Ashinu, he had been the one to bless the opening of the feast thought you had not seen him since, yet now he seems interested in speaking to Swift Pebble, though she is hesitant to approach alone as she does not understand the gods of this realm all that well
    [x] Zaia managed to find a book seller of all things among the guests, but unsurprisingly rare books are quite expensive, too much so for him to make any promises of the company finances on his own account
 
Arc 10 Post 27: By Rumble of Hooves
By Rumble of Hooves

Thirty-Sixth Day of Ikomi-eza (Ikomi Ascendant) 1348 A. L. (After Landfall)

You had never before pondered the prospect of a realm and a people skilled in martial matters ashore who do not know the horse, not really. It was to your mind easy enough to dismiss the Anwa who dwelt upon an island in the midst of the churning sea and must sail to war and not ride, but the folk of Orinilu while keeping their eyes upon the sea are not without lands held in vassalage, along the coast where the forests are their fortress just as the walls of stone and the palisades of wood.

Hengo Perys is not a man seeking horses as a curiosity, as a sign of prestige or of virility. He does so for the blood that is shared each autumn by the Yayar, riders of the horned beasts, distant kin perhaps of the Wyrdoki, though far fiercer and more numerous. Indeed, by the accounts you are given of their savagery and their rapaciousness you would think them demons in the skin of men given to fire and butchery for the sheer joy of them. "Olweje they call Great King over all the kings of their wide land and to no law but his do they bend. Wild like the north wind and just as cruel, they come with greed and with evil in their eyes, though the wise Iki-uma know to give bread with a cunning portion as well as a fair one."

"They pay tribute then," you interject, the way he had called the lords of the hinterlands wise gives you pause and makes you wonder if for the first time in your stay in the city you stand before one who is more a worshiper of Elnu than Ikomi or even Ashinu. Not that you have any reason to personally dislike the old aristocracy of the land, you remind yourself. Digging to the root of things you probably have more in common with them than you do with the merchant lords like Odorin Koire, or at least the man you were a year ago would have more in common with them, the mercenary and perhaps merchant you are now... you are not so sure.

"They pay tribute," Hengo agrees grimly. "Some have even tried to persuade some of the raiders to let go of their wandering ways and guard the land as man of old made dogs of wolves, but to this day no such attempt has gone well. Their beasts sicken and die or their fellows fall on them in raids or they seek to bite the very hand that fed them. Feh I say to them and their beasts..." he spits for emphasis upon the fine marble floor. "We shall ride against them upon the backs of horses, that are larger than their foul tempered beasts, and we shall match their horns with armor of metal."

"That would be the work of decades of breeding our stock with the wild beasts," Antonio tempers the man's words.

"Assuming they can breed and their offspring after them," you add, thinking of mules. Judging by the look on your friend's face that might be a bit more tempering than he had wished for, but that does not make it any less true.

"I am sure we can find something to offer our stud services to, though of course you know these forests and the trappers whom might best work on them," he adds. "The great war steeds of distant Verley shall bequeath their blood upon the beasts of this land and by their progeny shall the wreckers of fields and the destroyers of hearths be driven from the lands of Orinilu..."

And with that the fire is again in the man's eyes, almost zeal in dealing with these invaders. It is not hard to guess at Antonio's purpose, a deal that costs you nothing but bringing the horses you have to breed costs little but time and in the case of the mares the chance to use them on the field that year, but you cannot help but worry that these tribes may take ill to you handing out cavalry to the city and its dependencies.

Do you agree to the deal to loan out stallions and mares of your herds for a fee once Hengo acquires wild stock?

[] Yes (Gain 8,000 gp next year in the spring for stud services with potentially even more in the years to come if the breeding is successful)

[] No, you do not want to risk making more enemies, both within Orinilu and beyond its walls so soon


OOC: Just to be clear the 8,000 gp above do not require an action, just a commitment. The cost for the passive income is the association itself.
 
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Yeah I agree completely with Tomcost. It will take along time to get running, but those things are best started early. The Fellowship is already starting to raise up some allies here, might as well start the long term projects growing asap.

Plus, cash! Good for many things. Downtime with horses? Not worth much.
 
@DragonParadox, I don't see any reason they would need to start a breeding program using our mares right now. Yes, eventually the added genetic diversity would be advantageous, but we have so few mares that it would create a severe bottleneck to their efforts to rely on them.

Better to whorse out our studs and let them impregnate dozens of wild mares, while carefully breeding our mares and stallions in order to increase the numbers of pure strain horses. They'll be needed for our own forces eventually, plus for the breeding program to be successful it's going to need regular infusions of new-ish blood from true horses for equine generations to come.

[X] Yes (Gain 8,000 gp next year in the spring for stud services with potentially even more in the years to come if the breeding is successful)

This isn't just a great source of income, but also a potentially very valuable contact to make for future business. Also, if we're going to get official or semi-official backing for a horse breeding program, on top of the money we can probably get assistance with acquiring a large piece of suitable property. After all, we would need plenty of space for the horses.
 
[X] Yes (Gain 8,000 gp next year in the spring for stud services with potentially even more in the years to come if the breeding is successful)
 
[X] Yes (Gain 8,000 gp next year in the spring for stud services with potentially even more in the years to come if the breeding is successful)
 
[X] Yes (Gain 8,000 gp next year in the spring for stud services with potentially even more in the years to come if the breeding is successful)
 
@DragonParadox, I don't see any reason they would need to start a breeding program using our mares right now. Yes, eventually the added genetic diversity would be advantageous, but we have so few mares that it would create a severe bottleneck to their efforts to rely on them.

They do not have to start it with mares, but they would pay extra for them because it is more chances for a viable hybrid to be born. Keep in mind these people are not geneticists and no one has ever tried this sort of thing before.
 
[X] Yes (Gain 8,000 gp next year in the spring for stud services with potentially even more in the years to come if the breeding is successful)
 
@DragonParadox, I don't see any reason they would need to start a breeding program using our mares right now. Yes, eventually the added genetic diversity would be advantageous, but we have so few mares that it would create a severe bottleneck to their efforts to rely on them.

Better to whorse out our studs and let them impregnate dozens of wild mares, while carefully breeding our mares and stallions in order to increase the numbers of pure strain horses. They'll be needed for our own forces eventually, plus for the breeding program to be successful it's going to need regular infusions of new-ish blood from true horses for equine generations to come.

[X] Yes (Gain 8,000 gp next year in the spring for stud services with potentially even more in the years to come if the breeding is successful)

This isn't just a great source of income, but also a potentially very valuable contact to make for future business. Also, if we're going to get official or semi-official backing for a horse breeding program, on top of the money we can probably get assistance with acquiring a large piece of suitable property. After all, we would need plenty of space for the horses.

It is the wildlands. We can probably carve ourselves our own pocket of civilization there. It is bronza age. We buy land with blood
 
They do not have to start it with mares, but they would pay extra for them because it is more chances for a viable hybrid to be born. Keep in mind these people are not geneticists and no one has ever tried this sort of thing before.
What are Silver's thoughts on horse breeding? Does he find it objectionable?

Would he have issues with participating?
It is the wildlands. We can probably carve ourselves our own pocket of civilization there. It is bronza age. We buy land with blood
Eventually, perhaps, but for now I want a base setup within an already civilization, one with infrastructure, goods and services, a workforce, etc. There are too many advantages to it, and too many disadvantages to trying to carve out our own place, to do otherwise, IMO.
 
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