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Animus Ex Nihilo - A God Quest

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[X] Manifest your body again and join their attack. You will not tolerate the murder of your shamans.
[X] Accept their offerings and bless their efforts. The Forest People deserve this punishment.

We can't let them get away with it.
 
Were a Goddess of Healing (to be) not of revenge :(
Be the force that binds lives, not the one that severs them.
 
[X] Manifest your body again and join their attack. You will not tolerate the murder of your shamans.
[X] Accept their offerings and bless their efforts. The Forest People deserve this punishment.
 
Azel said:
Squids and eels with dagger like teeth preyed on them, while giant crabs, isopods and starfish feasted on whatever was left of their meals.
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Missing word here.

Azel said:
The greatest controversy was over the burial rites, as the Forest People insisted that all dead needed to be brought to certain cites in the deep forest, or the animals would turn wild and angry and take from the people until they showed proper reverence to the forest again.
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Rereading the update, I'm surprised that nobody is commenting on this; because it sounds like the Forest People not only have a god of their but one with a death domain. If we can get get them on our side we might be able to starve out that parasite and avoid a potentially risky fight.

[X] Reject their offerings and send them a sign to stand down. The shamans shall attempt to make peace with the Forest People.

It's a risk, especially since we know nothing about them beyond what their (hostile) worshipers display, but I want that eel dead and this way not only potentially offloads a domain that seems to do nothing but suck up faith but also strengthens the legitimacy of our healing rites. If that god is just like it's worshipers then we'll know that they really are responsible for the killing and can roll up next turn and rock them like a hurricane.
 
We have too many problems to handle.
Let's not create a two front war.

[X] Reject their offerings and send them a sign to stand down. The shamans shall attempt to make peace with the Forest People.

Once we have managed to either send the devourer packing or fortify the sea to stop our dead from reaching it then we can focus on the forests.

Also the wording makes me think that there are shenanigans here beyond simply forest people. Something wants a war between our two tribes. Investigate and find out who then punish.
 
[X] Reject their offerings and send them a sign to stand down. The shamans shall attempt to make peace with the Forest People.
 
[X] Reject their offerings and send them a sign to stand down. The shamans shall attempt to make peace with the Forest People.
 
flotter said:
Rereading the update, I'm surprised that nobody is commenting on this; because it sounds like the Forest People not only have a god of their but one with a death domain. If we can get get them on our side we might be able to starve out that parasite and avoid a potentially risky fight.
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The problem is that the forest people don't recognise us as a god, so if we don't do anything we kinda prove them right.
 
[X] Manifest your body again and join their attack. You will not tolerate the murder of your shamans.
 
flotter said:
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I'd point out that one if we do this we almost certainly gain a bit of punishing disposition which would potentially allow us to devour the Forest People's god for power or a domain, and two if this god is just alright with his people denying our existence, and interfering with our faith even if they didn't murder our shaman than he's no friend of our's even a potential one.
 
Amilia said:
The problem is that the forest people don't recognise us as a god, so if we don't do anything we kinda prove them right.
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Neither group recognizes the other side's god, that's part of the problem;
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Before you could act on your curiosity though, there had been some upheaval in the Bay Village. In recent times, a rift between the Forest People and the Sea People had been growing. It had began with accusations of cheating each other in trades, followed by ever harsher accusations of theft and violence commit by one side or another. Now though, they even accused each other of godlessness.
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Sir LagsAlot said:
I'd point out that one if we do this we almost certainly gain a bit of punishing disposition which would potentially allow us to devour the Forest People's god for power or a domain, and two if this god is just alright with his people denying our existence, and interfering with our faith even if they didn't murder our shaman than he's no friend of our's even a potential one.
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1.) Our faithful interfere with the Forest Group by trying to supplant their burial practices and have been denying the Forest Group's god for at least some time, so your actions could just as easily be applied to us from another perspective. Despite that, we've never met them and hadn't even known of their existence until this very update. It is premature to assume malice here.
2.) While it is true that beating and eating this god would get us a surge of power and probably the death domain, that does not mean that it would be easy nor would we be prepared to essentially tie ourselves to a different group that is oriented in a way that is completely different from our domain*. Unless we're literally going to break the god's center of worship right now then any fight will take at least one more turn to finish them off for good. More than one turn is even more likely, and that is time where we'll have to prioritize not fighting the Devourer when we know that its been getting stronger with every turn we fail to protect the bodies as well as just not strengthening our domain. And if we win? Now we a group of people who will have mostly different needs from our coastal dwellers (which we will not be able to solve because we are an ocean-first deity and this is a forest) and will probably have some stubborn agitators who will make our job harder (because we killed their god).

Is this insurmountable? No. But is it worth the hassle? Not from where I'm standing.
 
There is a time for us to be caring and compassionate. But this is an even more direct affront against our followers than the Devourer, is it possible we are being tricked, maybe. Is it likely we're about to meet another god, probably. But even with that to not respond with some level of strength, will only make us appear weak even if we turn out to be in the right. We gather power from our followers, and if they are enraged, its reasonable we act in turn, fear has its use, and we're are the Sea, we are the Proud Waters, we are powerful and should be respected.
 
ComiTurtle said:
There is a time for us to be caring and compassionate. But this is an even more direct affront against our followers than the Devourer, is it possible we are being tricked, maybe. Is it likely we're about to meet another god, probably. But even with that to not respond with some level of strength, will only make us appear weak even if we turn out to be in the right. We gather power from our followers, and if they are enraged, its reasonable we act in turn, fear has its use, and we're are the Sea, we are the Proud Waters, we are powerful and should be respected.
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Thats why i asked if we can take form for peace, we show up in force, not for war, but for peace. If they still decline, then we go for blood.
Of course it hinges on being able to show up for it.
 
Yeah, my problem is that I absolutely want to manifest... But I also want to talk with the Forest People to find out who did the murder. Because I find that murder way too suspicious to think it was the Forest People who did it. Was it perhaps those Mountain Folk mentioned by the Sky Child when we first talked with them? Was it a sub-faction of the Forest People who worship the Devourer or something like it that isn't known by the rest?

It's only if they were the ones to do the murder that I will support attacking them.
 
I like to think its more in line with our nature to attempt diplomacy first. The Devourer notwithstanding since he's not really something to reason with.
 
[X] Manifest your body again and join their attack. You will not tolerate the murder of your shamans.

Time to smite! We don't have the Healing domain yet
 
flotter said:
Neither group recognizes the other side's god, that's part of the problem;


1.) Our faithful interfere with the Forest Group by trying to supplant their burial practices and have been denying the Forest Group's god for at least some time, so your actions could just as easily be applied to us from another perspective. Despite that, we've never met them and hadn't even known of their existence until this very update. It is premature to assume malice here.
2.) While it is true that beating and eating this god would get us a surge of power and probably the death domain, that does not mean that it would be easy nor would we be prepared to essentially tie ourselves to a different group that is oriented in a way that is completely different from our domain*. Unless we're literally going to break the god's center of worship right now then any fight will take at least one more turn to finish them off for good. More than one turn is even more likely, and that is time where we'll have to prioritize not fighting the Devourer when we know that its been getting stronger with every turn we fail to protect the bodies as well as just not strengthening our domain. And if we win? Now we a group of people who will have mostly different needs from our coastal dwellers (which we will not be able to solve because we are an ocean-first deity and this is a forest) and will probably have some stubborn agitators who will make our job harder (because we killed their god).

Is this insurmountable? No. But is it worth the hassle? Not from where I'm standing.
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1) Not really I've been up in arms about their direct interference in our rituals not about them trying to convince our people to swap to their burial right that's been a through-line of all my posts so you can't actually use this logic to justify war from the Forest People's god's perspective.

Edit: Although I would note that I have expressed my willingness to knock heads together because people have denied our existence but that wasn't a justification for war primarily because I wasn't trying to justify it. And, with regards to it being premature to assume malice, I'd say it's either malice or negligence the latter of which also applies to us if this god does exist but regardless of its currently theoretical existence I would say my answer doesn't change for this namely if you aren't keeping track of your worshipers well enough to know how they're interacting with the worshipers of other gods than you deserve what's coming for you good or bad as you've left it to luck.

2) This god is almost certainly weaker than the Devourer who has an effective domain tier of three to our one as its almost certainly younger than the Devourer due to the Forest People not existing until like two or three turns ago, and if we can defeat it, and gain the death domain an easier feat than defeating the Devourer than we'll be able to deprive the Devourer of power allowing us to more easily defeat it especially since it'll put us at three domains once we pick up healing.

It's effectively turning the Forest People's god into a stepping stone for defeating the Devourer as currently, the Devourer is a step that is simply too large a step for us to take all at once. And, this is regardless of if we manage to convert the Forest People as a result or not that'd just be icing on the cake if we somehow manage it.
 
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[X] Accept their offerings and bless their efforts. The Forest People deserve this punishment.
[X] Manifest your body again and join their attack. You will not tolerate the murder of your shamans.
 
[X] Manifest your body again and join their attack. You will not tolerate the murder of your shamans.
[X] Accept their offerings and bless their efforts. The Forest People deserve this punishment.
 
[X] Accept their offerings and bless their efforts. The Forest People deserve this punishment.
[X] Manifest your body again and join their attack. You will not tolerate the murder of your shamans.
 
[X] Accept their offerings and bless their efforts. The Forest People deserve this punishment.

Not really our place to suddenly decide on our people's actions, just keep to the mecenary work we always did. They pray and offer, we bless.
Besides, not like we could keep our people out of wars forever.
 
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