Age of Ice and Blood: A Pathfinder System Heroic Fantasy Quest
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Usually, for fighting ourselves, I would always prefer the Greatsword.
But in this specific case we don't even have Power Attack and our main-strenght is buffing other.
So, propably best to play it defensivly, with the sword and board, plus full armor of course?
Full Plate is just objectivly best by far, no story-reason could persuade me to loose 3 AC just for historical correctness.
[X]Defensive equipment
-[X] The Longsword and Shield, tried and true, afoot or ahorse
-[X] The Lance, most chivalrous of weapons
-[X] The Bec de Corbin, bane of any knight to stand against you
-[X] Plate Armor, a treasure in its own right and a work of master's craft, such as princes and kings might wear (5 Ponts)
If we fight alone or with few allies, sword and board.
If we have our mount and enough space to charge, Lance the bastards.
If we fight with enough friends to form a first line before us, we can use the Reach-weapon to crack skulls from behind while using Aid Other for the frontliners.
But in this specific case we don't even have Power Attack and our main-strenght is buffing other.
So, propably best to play it defensivly, with the sword and board, plus full armor of course?
Full Plate is just objectivly best by far, no story-reason could persuade me to loose 3 AC just for historical correctness.
[X]Defensive equipment
-[X] The Longsword and Shield, tried and true, afoot or ahorse
-[X] The Lance, most chivalrous of weapons
-[X] The Bec de Corbin, bane of any knight to stand against you
-[X] Plate Armor, a treasure in its own right and a work of master's craft, such as princes and kings might wear (5 Ponts)
If we fight alone or with few allies, sword and board.
If we have our mount and enough space to charge, Lance the bastards.
If we fight with enough friends to form a first line before us, we can use the Reach-weapon to crack skulls from behind while using Aid Other for the frontliners.
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Yeah thinking about it I do not think you guys should have access to plate, particularly as stuff like that will impact how the locals react to you and what opportunities you get. Half plate is going to be as high as it goes
Sorry for the confusion @Artemis1992.
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Downgrading to Half-Plate due to new ruling.
Picking the Chain Shirt as a light option to wear in social settings where heavy armor is innapropriate but we don't want to be unprotected.
[X]Defensive equipment adjusted
-[X] The Longsword and Shield, tried and true, afoot or ahorse
-[X] The Lance, most chivalrous of weapons
-[X] The Bec de Corbin, bane of any knight to stand against you
-[X] Banded Mail, rather cumbersome, but still a life-saver in battle (4 Points)
-[X] Chain shirt, the simplest and lightest form of armor, even the poorest or most headlong of knights can boast as much (0 Points)
Approptiatly this range of weapons also includes slashing, bludgeoning and piercing, so if we meet resistant things (like less Undead) we can pick the best weapon for the job.
Picking the Chain Shirt as a light option to wear in social settings where heavy armor is innapropriate but we don't want to be unprotected.
[X]Defensive equipment adjusted
-[X] The Longsword and Shield, tried and true, afoot or ahorse
-[X] The Lance, most chivalrous of weapons
-[X] The Bec de Corbin, bane of any knight to stand against you
-[X] Banded Mail, rather cumbersome, but still a life-saver in battle (4 Points)
-[X] Chain shirt, the simplest and lightest form of armor, even the poorest or most headlong of knights can boast as much (0 Points)
Approptiatly this range of weapons also includes slashing, bludgeoning and piercing, so if we meet resistant things (like less Undead) we can pick the best weapon for the job.
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Yeah, in terms of historicity, a full plate is about as historically removed from the Fifth Crusade as an m16 would be for the American War of Independence.
What pathfinder calls banded mail and splint mail is about state of the art in the early 13th century, as the coat of plates. Strictly speaking both the Breastplate and Half Plate (whose description matches transitional plate armor, ie like you'd see during the Hundred Years's War still close to a century, as opposed to what the name matches - which is more 15th-16th century doctrine) are about a century off from the early 13th century.
PS : for our PC both Chainmail and a Breastplate would provide the same AC.
What pathfinder calls banded mail and splint mail is about state of the art in the early 13th century, as the coat of plates. Strictly speaking both the Breastplate and Half Plate (whose description matches transitional plate armor, ie like you'd see during the Hundred Years's War still close to a century, as opposed to what the name matches - which is more 15th-16th century doctrine) are about a century off from the early 13th century.
PS : for our PC both Chainmail and a Breastplate would provide the same AC.
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@DragonParadox How much would Banded Mail cost us? In Pathfinder it's way cheaper, but for our PC would give the same AC and less armor penalty compared to half plate. Plus it's historical.
PS : here is a quick breakdown of the armors :
Chain Shirt - AC 15, very little in the way of penalties. Full movement speed, only -2 ACP.
Chainmail - AC 17, -5 ACP, only 20 feet per movement action as opposed to 30.
Breastplate - Ahistorical, identical to chainmail besides -4 ACP. (And theoretically being able to stack dex boni up to +3 instead of +2, but we got +1).
Half Plate - AC 18, -7 ACP. Running only triples instead of quadrupling our speed.
Banded Mail - AC 18, -6 ACP. Actually historical.
PS : here is a quick breakdown of the armors :
Chain Shirt - AC 15, very little in the way of penalties. Full movement speed, only -2 ACP.
Chainmail - AC 17, -5 ACP, only 20 feet per movement action as opposed to 30.
Breastplate - Ahistorical, identical to chainmail besides -4 ACP. (And theoretically being able to stack dex boni up to +3 instead of +2, but we got +1).
Half Plate - AC 18, -7 ACP. Running only triples instead of quadrupling our speed.
Banded Mail - AC 18, -6 ACP. Actually historical.
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10 points right here. Full spectrum Melee, a ranged option, and solid defense without much encumbrance.
I think I am just going to replace half plate with banded mail.
Sorry again for all the historical faux pas, I am just too used to ASOAF which is War of the Roses alike.
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I was going to say we're likely going to want to keep extra points around because they'll be used in other Char Gen stuff.
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This is an excellent point. @DragonParadox?
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Changed again for Banded Mail.
But seriously, this is hardly a concern, as soon as we have some money we should get a Fullplate in this brave new world.
But seriously, this is hardly a concern, as soon as we have some money we should get a Fullplate in this brave new world.
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We have people suggesting unused points from this vote will carry over. Could you clarify this for us?I think I am just going to replace half plate with banded mail.
Sorry again for all the historical faux pas, I am just too used to ASOAF which is War of the Roses alike.
[X] plan well rounded
-[X] The Longsword and Shield, tried and true, afoot or ahorse
-[X] The Lance, most chivalrous of weapons
-[X] Light Crossbow, not chivalrous mayhap but not all wars may be won with chivalry, particularly when one stands upon a parapet no lance is long enough
-[X] Chain shirt, the simplest and lightest form of armor, even the poorest or most headlong of knights can boast as much (2 Points)
[X] Banded Mail, rather cumbersome, but still a life-saver in battle (4 Points)
long sword for close in combat.
lance for horseback.
crossbow so were can still provide support when we pull back to comand.
chain shirt for constant use.
banded mail for when we are expecting trouble/combat.
-[X] The Longsword and Shield, tried and true, afoot or ahorse
-[X] The Lance, most chivalrous of weapons
-[X] Light Crossbow, not chivalrous mayhap but not all wars may be won with chivalry, particularly when one stands upon a parapet no lance is long enough
-[X] Chain shirt, the simplest and lightest form of armor, even the poorest or most headlong of knights can boast as much (2 Points)
[X] Banded Mail, rather cumbersome, but still a life-saver in battle (4 Points)
long sword for close in combat.
lance for horseback.
crossbow so were can still provide support when we pull back to comand.
chain shirt for constant use.
banded mail for when we are expecting trouble/combat.
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It's not your fault that popular culture equates plate armor with the medieval knight, although I find it hilarious that popular culture has characters run around with renaissance period armor in an otherwise properly medieval world.I think I am just going to replace half plate with banded mail.
Sorry again for all the historical faux pas, I am just too used to ASOAF which is War of the Roses alike.
PS : why did you up the Chain Shirt cost? And why is it identical to the heavier and more expensive Chainmail? If you have to increase the cost, wouldn't 1-2-4 make more sense?
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Jumbled speech. "sat up" may not belong there, and "they will fight and die for it again" may belong inside the quotation marks.
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Not familiar with Pathfinder, so I'll leave the chargen to others.
They do not carry over, this is just an abstraction for ''what kind of armor and weapons do you have with you'. Other wealth will be rolled for and in any case their worth will be lowered and increased by where you happen to find yourselves. This is not Kansas so you cannot really trust Roland's own sense of what things are worth to judge.
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[X] A Versetile Armory.
-[X] The Longsword and Shield, tried and true, afoot or ahorse
-[X] The Light Flail, a weapon most adept in disarming the foe, to capture or to slay
-[X] The Lance, most chivalrous of weapons
-[X] The Bec de Corbin, bane of any knight to stand against you
-[X] Longbow, a weapon more for hunting than for war in the hands of a knight, but it can serve the latter purpose most deadly in a pinch
-[X] Chainmail, respectable protection at the cost of not too much encumbrance (2Point)
-[X] Barding for Silver, rare armor for a rare steed
--[X] Light 2 Points
adjusted based on alterations to the vote options.
-[X] The Longsword and Shield, tried and true, afoot or ahorse
-[X] The Light Flail, a weapon most adept in disarming the foe, to capture or to slay
-[X] The Lance, most chivalrous of weapons
-[X] The Bec de Corbin, bane of any knight to stand against you
-[X] Longbow, a weapon more for hunting than for war in the hands of a knight, but it can serve the latter purpose most deadly in a pinch
-[X] Chainmail, respectable protection at the cost of not too much encumbrance (2Point)
-[X] Barding for Silver, rare armor for a rare steed
--[X] Light 2 Points
adjusted based on alterations to the vote options.
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