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I think if we're going to spend as much time as possible on physical cultivation then you might as well skip the Garden block and literally spend all 28 blocks of time on cultivation for maximum efficiency.

[X] Plan GRUG
-[X] Grug cultivate physical cultivation only. 4 blocks a day Grug exercise Grug body.
-[X] Grug buy Hardy Body and Surging Blood pills to Grug Harder.
 
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tricholysis said:
I think if we're going to spend as much time as possible on physical cultivation then you might as well skip the Garden block and literally spend all 28 blocks of time on cultivation for maximum efficiency.

[X] Plan GRUG
-[X] Grug cultivate physical cultivation only. 4 blocks a day Grug exercise Grug body.
-[X] Grug buy Hardy Body and Surging Blood pills to Grug Harder.
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Hmm true but we do need points both to buy technique and pills. I suppose if we dont buy ancient oak this turn we should still have enough points to buy both mental cultivation pills and ancient oak next turn as long as we do the gardening job atleast once.

edit: Oh yeah forgot about the mandated job.
 
[X] Plan: Sect Points for Cultivation Chamber
-[X] The Garden Job (x4)
--[X] Do Garden Job until Zhi Gao Gains 250 Sect Points and worked for atleast 7 blocks. Then Spend 250 Sect Points on Cultivation Chamber. After breakthrough to fifth step in Mental Cultivation in Mental Chamber spend remaining time in Physical Cultivation in the Physical Chamber. Spend the rest of time on Garden Job.

Kadmus said:
250 sect points
- Mental cultivation chamber. Grants access to one of the lesser cultivation chambers of the sect for up to 7 time blocks. +10 Degrees of Success to every mental cultivation roll made, including failures.
- Physical cultivation chamber. Grants access to one of the lesser cultivation chambers of the sect for up to 7 time blocks. +10 Degrees of Success to every physical cultivation roll made, including failures.
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My plan is to get 250 sect points as quickly as possible by doing garden jobs. After spending 250 sect points Zhi Gao will cultivate in the Chamber continuously until the 7 blocks run out. Then he will return to Garden Job hopefully at Step 5 earning more money on each block of garden job.

I think Sect points spent on Cultivation Chamber is better than spending on pills and potions currently available to us.
 
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[X] Plan: Sect Points for Cultivation Chamber
-[X] The Garden Job (x4)
--[X] Do Garden Job until Zhi Gao Gains 250 Sect Points and worked for atleast 7 blocks. Then Spend 250 Sect Points on Cultivation Chamber. After breakthrough to fifth step in Mental Cultivation in Mental Chamber spend remaining time in Physical Cultivation in the Physical Chamber. Spend the rest of time on Garden Job.
 
Just gonna say that waste too many points if were using a chamber we dedicate an entire block to it anything else is inefficient and waste of points.

Edit: If you insist on using a chamber do garden job 3 times and dedicate an entire block to cultivation in a chamber.
 
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Wing101 said:
Just gonna say that waste too many points if were using a chamber we dedicate an entire block to it anything else is inefficient and waste of points.

Edit: If you insist on using a chamber do garden job 3 times and dedicate an entire block to cultivation in a chamber.
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My plan is to get 250 sect points as quickly as possible by doing garden jobs. After spending 250 sect points Zhi Gao will cultivate in the Chamber continuously until the 7 blocks run out. Then he will return to Garden Job hopefully at Step 5 earning more money on each block of garden job.
 
@Wing101

So the plan is to blitz out physical cultivation next turn with pills, and then do the same with mental cultivation the turn after that? Will we still have the sect points to buy the pills to boost our mental cultivation if we buy that technique?
 
Vokivas said:
@Wing101

So the plan is to blitz out physical cultivation next turn with pills, and then do the same with mental cultivation the turn after that? Will we still have the sect points to buy the pills to boost our mental cultivation if we buy that technique?
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We have 148 points right now we gain points from mandatory job so yes we can easily afford by buying the pills first and then the technique after getting points from the job.
 
[X]Ancient Oak Patience (Support, Wood, 50 sect points):

[X]Hardy Body Pill. Forces the opponent in body breakthrough rolls to use their worst roll, instead of their best. Effective until Inner Human First Step.
[X]Surging Blood Pill. Grants +3 Degrees of Success to every physical cultivation roll for a week. Effective until Inner Human First Step.
[X]Crushing Waves Pill. Enhances physical cultivation rolls by +10% for a week. Effective until Inner Human First Step

[X]Plan Garden and Breakthrough

[X] Jia.
[X] Zhang Shui.
 
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Note for those who vote for my plan I added the crushing waves pill like karnax plan the main difference between us being whether we buy the ancient oak technique or not.
 
[X]Ancient Oak Patience (Support, Wood, 50 sect points):

Pills
[X]Hardy Body Pill. Forces the opponent in body breakthrough rolls to use their worst roll, instead of their best. Effective until Inner Human First Step.
[X]Surging Blood Pill. Grants +3 Degrees of Success to every physical cultivation roll for a week. Effective until Inner Human First Step.
[X]Crushing Waves Pill. Enhances physical cultivation rolls by +10% for a week. Effective until Inner Human First Step

[X]Plan Garden and Breakthrough

[X] Jia.
[X] Zhang Shui.

Lets do this! Full steam ahead!

Also on alchemy, if we do gi for ir, I hope we only do it as a suplementary skill. I still want our dude to be able to deal out some face punching.
 
Wing101 said:
By the way once we have the points for it we should probably buy atleast technique that gives bonus for each skill we have even once we wont focus on since it should atleast shore up our weakness, granted it might be better to simply raise all our skills to 50 atleast.


Also @Kadmus can we buy techniques that help our mind and body cultivation skills or will we have to find secret techniques for that?
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Techniques to help with mind/body cultivation are extremely rare and secret. You definitely can't buy them.
 
Kadmus said:
Techniques to help with mind/body cultivation are extremely rare and secret. You definitely can't buy them.
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Figured as much still good know and something to work on in the future.

Also is the chamber plan okay where they work the garden job until they reach 250 points before buying the chamber and then doing the job again?

Edit: Since my plan and karnax are pretty much the same with only the name of the plan being different do they count as the same vote?

Techniques require at least 5 votes and plan are different from social right?
 
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[X]Plan Garden and Breakthrough
-[X] The Garden Job.
-[X] 7 Blocks on physical Cultivation X3 use Crushing Waves Pill, Hardy Body and Surging blood pill.

[X] Jia.
[X] Ma Gang.

@TheMortalRuins I'm switching to Garden and Breakthrough, as with the addition of the third pill it's now an identical plan to mine.

I'm still going to hold off on voting for the Oak technique until we've seen our income this coming turn, just in case we end up not having enough for the mental turn next.
 
[X]Ancient Oak Patience (Support, Wood, 50 sect points):

[X]Plan Garden and Breakthrough
-[X] The Garden Job.
-[X] 7 Blocks on physical Cultivation X3 use Crushing Waves Pill, Hardy Body and Surging blood pill.

[X] Jia.
[X] Shan Hong
 
Wing101 said:
Figured as much still good know and something to work on in the future.

Also is the chamber plan okay where they work the garden job until they reach 250 points before buying the chamber and then doing the job again?

Edit: Since my plan and karnax are pretty much the same with only the name of the plan being different do they count as the same vote?

Techniques require at least 5 votes and plan are different from social right?
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Techniques need at least 5 votes to lock in, yes.

The cultivation chamber plan will also work. If you buy chamber access and don't have 7 blocks left in the week, you get the remaining blocks in the next week.

If the plans are the same, but just named differently, I will be consolidating the votes for them.

Technique and social votes get counted separately from week plan votes, unless the technique is specified in the plan itself.

Techniques will apply the week you buy them.

If you're aiming for the extra time blocks, please remember you need Fifth Step in both body and mental to get the extra blocks.
 
I don't understand why "Plan Garden and Breakthrough" is focusing on Physical Cultivation. If Zhi Gao breaksthrough in Mental Cultivation, he will be fully in Third Step of Outer Human. Each extra Step is additional Sect Points during Garden Job. It would make a lot more sense to focus on Mental Cultivation first since Zhi Gao will have to do more Garden Jobs to get enough Sect Points to buy Pills and Potions to cultivate to fifth step.
 
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[X] Plan: Sect Points for Cultivation Chamber
-[X] The Garden Job (x4)
--[X] Do Garden Job until Zhi Gao Gains 250 Sect Points and worked for atleast 7 blocks. Then Spend 250 Sect Points on Cultivation Chamber. After breakthrough to fifth step in Mental Cultivation in Mental Chamber spend remaining time in Physical Cultivation in the Physical Chamber. Spend the rest of time on Garden Job.
 
Tharuk said:
I don't understand why "Plan Garden and Breakthrough" is focusing on Physical Cultivation. If Zhi Gao breaksthrough in Mental Cultivation, he will be fully in Third Step of Outer Human. Each extra Step is additional Sect Points during Garden Job. It would make a lot more sense to focus on Mental Cultivation first since Zhi Gao will have to do more Garden Jobs to get enough Sect Points to buy Pills and Potions to cultivate to fifth step.
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This understanding is correct, if anyone is on the fence. A full Third Step breakthrough will grant more sect points from the garden job, while a higher body path stage will not do anything but grant access to more technique slots, for the moment.
 
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