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-Head of the KuK Design Bureau
[X] Miran Mlakar

I am sorry Doktor von Arnstein, but war with England should be avoided at most reasonable costs. Moreover we need focus on the seas within our more immediate reach, rather then become fixated in fighting England where they are strongest.

-Constructor General
[X] Bruno Tesařik

His intended design philophy and ideals most closely fit what I see is in our best interest, the submarines not withstanding.
The notion of england was to focus on a stronger emphasis on modern technology, where I was offering a aimed framework instead of just going for a more nebulous advanced position like my estemed college

-Head of the KuK Design Bureau: Responsible for putting out the design criteria I need to meet when constructing new ships for our glorious fleet and decides on the designs we build
[X] Miran Mlakar
Mr. Mlakar's appreciation for displacement and advanced ships beating the piss out of the Italians is appreciated.
Advancement likewise is a position that I am championing, and considering the current state of the world, and the technological developments , bigger is not always better.
What use is a ship if its unable to catch the enemy because it is to slow , as we can not always ensure that we can force the engagement. What matters the size of the gun if it can not hit the enemy?
Considering our rivarine position we can not simply ignore small sized ships, especially should there be a issue in the Dardanelles.
 
On the contrary my fellow denizens, bigger is better in this age of steel!

A warship must be more than just fast, it must be more than well armed, and it must be more than well armored. It must be all of these things!

To combine all of these things into a single package is a difficult task indeed and the lower a ship's allowed displacement, the more compromises must occur to get a ship that does not capsize upon leaving dry dock.

This is why we must reject the paradigm of restrained tonnage to the greatest extent possible! Only through possessing the most powerful single warships afloat, through a qualitative advantage, will it be possible to deal with the Empire's opponents.

None of us are fond of putting all our eggs in one basket, I understand this, but to play the mathematical game of attrition with the other powers is untenable!

If our ships are merely en par with our opponents as we conform to international norms of the displacement of an armored cruiser or battleship, we will always find ourselves outnumbered even by the damn Savoyards.

Such calculations are not favorable.

Only through the production of such vessels that are sufficiently superior as to break the traditional paradigm of statistical attritional war will it be possible to deliver the blows necessary to win victory in war!

We cannot stand in line and trade blows. We must be faster to pin them against a coastline. We must outrange the enemy so that we may reach out and slam them with a 500 kg shell beyond their ability to retaliate! We must have such extensive and innovative protection that our ships shrug of blows that would annihilate a lesser foe!

As we have seen how little time it takes for even the greatest of state technological secrets to be released to the winds, such as the French attempting to hoard their smokeless powder for a time, the only way to achieve this superiority is through the supremacy of each and every ship!
 
On the contrary my fellow denizens, bigger is better in this age of steel!

A warship must be more than just fast, it must be more than well armed, and it must be more than well armored. It must be all of these things!

To combine all of these things into a single package is a difficult task indeed and the lower a ship's allowed displacement, the more compromises must occur to get a ship that does not capsize upon leaving dry dock.

This is why we must reject the paradigm of restrained tonnage to the greatest extent possible! Only through possessing the most powerful single warships afloat, through a qualitative advantage, will it be possible to deal with the Empire's opponents.

None of us are fond of putting all our eggs in one basket, I understand this, but to play the mathematical game of attrition with the other powers is untenable!

If our ships are merely en par with our opponents as we conform to international norms of the displacement of an armored cruiser or battleship, we will always find ourselves outnumbered even by the damn Savoyards.

Such calculations are not favorable.

Only through the production of such vessels that are sufficiently superior to break the traditional paradigm of statistical attritional war will it be possible to deliver the blows necessary to win victory in war!

We cannot stand in line and trade blows. We must be faster to pin them against a coastline. We must outrange the enemy so that we may reach out and slam them with a 500 kg shell beyond their ability to retaliate! We must have such extensive and innovative protection that our ships shrug of blows that would annihilate a lesser foe!

As we have seen how little time it takes for even the greatest of state technological secrets to be released to the winds, such as the French attempting to hoard their smokeless powder for a time, the only way to achieve this superiority is through the supremacy of each and every ship!
And can you yet , look at the way that the bigger is better paradigm is not serving the british well, if you compare their battleships for example to the russian ones?

How our Szigetvar has only a minimal difference in Destructive power compared to the russian Armored cruisers class of the Paladana, and yet there is a difference of more then 10 percent in size in their favor. Wasted size and steel!

Our current Cruiser and Destroyer sized are already at the upper limit for worldwide sizes of these classes, and yet my collegue wishes to go for size over technology there to use our size better then to waste steel just to obtain empty displacement!

And while the Itallian Battleships outsize ours, they do not outeffect ours ! And yes there is a displacement gap in their favor.

Which is a issue of Crusiers , not Battleships as the difference between ours and the Italians for the Queens of the Ocean is minimal, but we did not appear on the dancecard for the armored and heavy Cruisers!

The combined displacement of Crusiers , light Cruisers at that, is bigger then the difference between our battleship fleet and the itallian Battleship fleet!

And that is without the armored cruisers where they are bringing in enough speed to steam away from our ships, and hunt our cruisers prevent our ships to force them into a fight unless we get into the range of shore batteries.

The Italians have as much additional cruiser tonnage over us as we have battleship or cruiser tonnage in total!
Trying to catch them via single ships in this case is fatal as while we hunt one ship three others can strike at our shipping.
Steel has to be used in the most efficent way , which can be a armored cruiser, or a battleship but which is not by itself always the biggest ship of their class as we can see with the new British Ships that have less then 300 tons between their battleships and their Armored cruisers into a newfound uggly hybrid!

If you try to catch two bird at the same time, you stand without a bird in the end, so we need to deliberately ensure that we have the right tool for the right problem. Else I am inviting my college to go forth and secure the Danube on a battleship!
 
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The British Royal Navy spans the entirety of the globe, their ships must each be equipped for worldwide voyages not as the Novara once did, but must do so as a matter of course! Such sacrifices demand its pound of flesh from a ship that we have no need to pay.

If you cannot see the difference between an 11 inch gun and a 12 inch gun you have clearly never been to the Skoda Works! An 11 inch gun flings a shell of approximately 240 kilograms when collating the known information of other powers and our own. A 12 inch gun flings a shell of approximately 400 kilograms! The destructive power is incomparable!

Do not look me in the eye and say that that does not make a difference!

Nor should we simply disavow a powerful screen! Across that great Atlantic that so many of people have gone to to seek better lives and fortune lies a country and naval power on the upswing!

Let us not forget that original core of the quickly ascending United States Navy composed of just 6 Frigates, but these were no ordinary frigates! Built to standards exceptional amongst the naval powers of the world these ships delivered utterly disproportionate damage to the British Royal Navy in their War of 1812 with just one of the six having been defeated in battle.

A superior ship can evade any number of opponents built to a lesser standard, and face down several opponents at once in battle!
 
The British Royal Navy spans the entirety of the globe, their ships must each be equipped for worldwide voyages not as the Novara once did, but must do so as a matter of course! Such sacrifices demand its pound of flesh from a ship that we have no need to pay.

If you cannot see the difference between an 11 inch gun and a 12 inch gun you have clearly never been to the Skoda Works! An 11 inch gun flings a shell of approximately 240 kilograms when collating the known information of other powers and our own. A 12 inch gun flings a shell of approximately 400 kilograms! The destructive power is incomparable!

Do not look me in the eye and say that that does not make a difference!

Nor should we simply disavow a powerful screen! Across that great Atlantic that so many of people have gone to to seek better lives and fortune lies a country and naval power on the upswing!

Let us not forget that original core of the quickly ascending United States Navy composed of just 6 Frigates, but these were no ordinary frigates! Built to standards exceptional amongst the naval powers of the world these ships delivered utterly disproportionate damage to the British Royal Navy in their War of 1812 with just one of the six having been defeated in battle.

A superior ship can evade any number of opponents built to a lesser standard, and face down several opponents at once in battle!
I do not say that there is no difference, but also that our superior fire controll allows us to hit them and penetrate them at a range where their 12 inch gun is more likely to miss us.

Material differences evaded by the use of Superior technology!

Yes Monarch is giving up speed for their armor plates, but it also ensues that the enemy has either to close in to wound one of his majesty ships, and both Monarch and Zrinyi will ensure that they come out on top, and yet we also see that because we decided to go against a allrounder and instead for a specialist that we are able to gain this!

Yes a superior ship that has a advantage in every category can of course pick their fights and ensure that they obtain a favorable fight each time, but I would also argue that we can not ensure that we always do this. We have to make sacrifices while designing a ship and so we have to find a solution that allows us to obtain the best from what we have!

And so we need a clear profile what we want out of a ship, and to be willing to dare !
Monarch and Zrinyi are a step away from established design ethos if we look internationally, and yet can you look into my face and say that they do not perform in the role as guardians of the adriatic, as Symbol of the double eagle of the house of Habsburg!

And yet we also see how diversity is also one of our nation, and so we need to keep a open mind to make the navy fit for the 20th century !
 
Going from an entirely 'In Character' stand point with my votes. I didn't necessarily pick whom I found most interesting, but rather whom I believe 'Big Tex' would likely have found endearing and whom he was likely to throw his weight and vote behind.

-Head of the KuK Design Bureau: Responsible for putting out the design criteria I need to meet when constructing new ships for our glorious fleet and decides on the designs we build
[x] Freifrau Doktor Thekla von Arnstein
[] Miran Mlakar

-Constructor General: Determines our research, as well what ratios we build our warships in, and what aircraft we get.
[] Miran Mlakar
[] Bela Svboda
[x] Bruno Tesařik

Also, entirely IC- while he wouldn't have supported Bela for the position of Constructor General (why take it from a natural born Hephaestus, yo), Bela Svboda is likely to be someone he'd also find interesting. That said,

-Liason for the Commander in Chief of the Navy:
[x] Bela Svboda
 
-Head of the KuK Design Bureau:
[x] Freifrau Doktor Thekla von Arnstein

-Constructor General:
[x] Miran Mlakar
 
Election Tally, 1900-1902
Voting is now CLOSED

Final Tallies:
-Head of the KuK Design Bureau: Responsible for putting out the design criteria I need to meet when constructing new ships for our glorious fleet and decides on the designs we build
[4] Freifrau Doktor Thekla von Arnstein
[4] Miran Mlakar

-Constructor General: Determines our research, as well what ratios we build our warships in, and what aircraft we get.
[1] Miran Mlakar
[4] Bela Svboda
[4] Bruno Tesařik

That said, given this post

Should you speak out in favor of me , I would of course be obliged to likewise speak out and cast my lot for you as constructor general mister Svboda

And the fact that Scia didn't vote because she was asleep, we could consider the tiebreaking vote to be hers for FrFr. Dr. Thekla V. Arnstein and Bela Svboda. I'm also a bit leery of doing so, however, since it might feel like favoritism to count an uncast but implied vote.

So what I'm going to do is roll a dice.

1: Bela Svboda and Dr. V. Arnstein
2: Bela Svboda and Miran Mlakar
3: Bruno Tesarik and Miran Mlakar
4: Bruno Tesarik and Dr. V. Arnstein
Scheduled vote count started by Theravis on Nov 3, 2020 at 5:40 PM, finished with 15 posts and 9 votes.

Also, please add the position you're voting for to your vote next time, it makes counting very difficult otherwise.

Aand the dice say 3.
 
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Our naval staff for 1900-1902

-Head of the KuK Design Bureau: Miran Mlakar @Sturmi
-Constructor General: Bruno Tesarik @MaHaL
-Naval Attache to the Foreign Office: Reiner Haas @IcePickLobotomy
-Commander-in-Chief of the Fleet: Eric Albert Fisher IV @Warr
 
January-March 1900
Honored members of the Reichsrat. It is now April 1900. The past three months have been largely uneventful. Our naval staff decided on a policy of even intelligence gathering, fiscal conservatism and national pride, and so far it seems to work well.



Our treasury grows alongside our third Monarch sibling, the Battleship Vítkovci, named by our Constructor General for the noble family of southern Bohemia. Some comments were drawn at court about the optics of naming a K.u.K. Marine vessel for a minor noble family from a province, but Franz Ferdinand was charmed by the idea of Bohemian representation in the dual crown. He has requested an interview with the Constructor General and claims to be considering supporting the Navy further in future.



The events of the first few months are largely routine. Our neighbors increase their battleship and heavy cruiser tonnage commensurate with our own or more. The French, interestingly, speak of a new "Amiral Charner" class on the slips at Ateliers et Chantiers de la Loire, but we cannot find blueprints of the new class as of yet. Germany has hidden additional naval funding via pork bills in the Reichstag, and Italy fortifies against the French, the fools!



Finally, German fishermen inexplicably wander into our naval testing grounds off Trieste. Our most reasonable Foreign Attache Haas has suggested that the vessel's appearance in the Trieste restricted zone is highly unusual and suspect. The Germans found these accusations offensive, but certainly they see the suspicious behavior?

I graciously await further reports from the naval staff to provide this most August body.

 
April-June 1900
Honored members of the Reichsrat. It is now June 1900. The past three months have been considerably eventful. I offer for your perusal, the newspaper headlines for this week.

The news is, broadly, favorable. Allow me to start at the beginning. Our Foreign Attache was approached by foreign minister Graf Gołuchowski, about a hypothetical security arrangement with France.

Though the Vítkovci was scrapped, our office retains a favorable outlook on this event.

Commander in Chief Lord Fischer said:
"We lost a hand of Poker, but the loss of one pot hurt the others at the table way more than us. From the Poodle, to the Dachhund, to the Bulldog, to that American Pittbull."

Constructor-General Bruno Tesarik said:
"Personally, I blame the Hungarians. We build a battleship not named for them and next thing you know the diplomats say it's a thousand tons too big and an inch too well gunned. Can you prove it wasn't their fault!?"

Foreign Minister Rudolf Haas said:
"The Treaty of Budapest is a welcome reprieve from the concerns of a out of control arms race. This treaty will all involved parties the opportunity to better their citizens lives and secure peace. "

This has left the Crowns without a battleship design that meets treaty obligations, however, despite our retention of the two existing Monarchs.

In other news, our research department underperforms on tests of our new explosive mixture.



Finally, the intelligence dispatches. While Britain, America and France are building more coastal batteries, the treaty has scrapped the majority of the ships that the other nations have begun to build in the past few months, excluding the German light cruisers.


I graciously await further reports from the naval staff to provide this most August body.
 
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Freifrau Thekla von Arnstein is raising the point in her corespondence that this gives us a option to raise our cruiser imbalance and that with the 10 inch requirement our Monarchs right now are now even better able to defend our adriatic interests.
And that a further focus on torpedos would mean that they are not falling under the treaty.

And that it is now about size well spend not maximised, in a commentary towards her collegue who won the election.
 
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Indeed, a strong escort fleet won't be deeply impacted by these treaties that focus unforunately on Capital Ships; surely the other nations will see these loopholes, and look to exploit them themselves. We should not fall behind in the arms race.
 
I agree with the sentiment that we should expand our sub-capital fleet, however I also believe the lack of a treaty-complaint Battleship design is a problem.
 

Panic in the Street of Wien over speculation bubble burst!
Stocks Fall!
Navy offers funding to Parliament in solidarity with the people!

It is January 1901, and the Empire reels. An economic crash in August has caused a scare and run on the banks, and funding was appropriated from our department to Parliament to pay for social programs to reduce the unrest. Our commander in chief commented:
"Seems to me you don't look at the scraps of a perfectly good animal and refuse to consider them for sausage. We've got an economic down turn? Well, I personally say that those who are unemployed should consider applying to one of the steel foundries, or other factories necessary to helping the military grow. If we don't, we'll be wasting an opportunity, and just like the person who doesn't use all the parts of the animal - we might be starving when winter comes."

Regardless, the budget remains fairly well funded, though not in comparison to other nations around the world.

While our naval construction continues to lag slightly, other nations also continue to waste funds on shore batteries, as well as pushing ahead in armor technology... On the other hand, our own research department has offered the first major breakthrough of this administration, in fire control.

It's now the turn of the British to irritate us, with a major fleet maneuver in Malta and naval rearmament program of the Mediterranean bases concerning the foreign ministry, and a major expedition giving them direct control of Java. Unfortunately, an intern misconstrued the statement offered by our foreign attaché, and so the government did not award us additional funding to counter the British buildup. The intern in question has been sacked. Finally, it was discovered that he was, in fact, a British agent! He has since been quietly arrested and imprisoned.



Finally, the good news. Our slipway facilities at Trieste have expanded, including a generous donation from Danubia Shipworks, bringing our maximum dockyard size to 14500 Tons of displacement, though the treaty currently prevents us from making full use of it. The existing lines, meanwhile, have put 3 of our 4 destroyers into service, and began construction of one of the two new cruisers we've constructed for the treaty period: The Kaiserin Class, beginning with Kaiserin Elisebeth, after the poor deceased wife of Kaiser Franz Joseph.




As always, we humbly await your responses.
 
The British actions concern me, but given our position I believe we can afford a moderate response. Discreetly handle the spy, complain about their build-up at the next conference and angle for an international force to respond to Java. Acting unilaterally and/or uparming ourselves is too likely to trigger an arms-race, treaty or no treaty.

As for the budgeting - try to have it watered down, or let the politicians handle it. Our budget is fairly healthy regardless so I see no reason expend political capital on pushing against it.
 
Voting to get the Navy League to protest the proposal or get it watered down. Agree with Dragon Trapper on the others.
 

The first quarter of 1901 was quiet overall, but rocked by a pair of scandals involving Foreign Secretary Haas. It was leaked to the papers in March that a meeting between Secretary Haas and the head of Alpine Montangesellschaft, Karl Wittgenstein, the "European Carnegie". Spurred on by Wittgenstein, Secretary Haas has supported anti-French rhetoric and hawkish feeling in the Palace, including publicly supporting the Kaiser after he declared that "Regardless of government, for the last hundred years it has been France that is the greatest troublemaker on the continent."

The navy budget remains tight, with the last 4 Panther-Class destroyers going into active service and leaving only the two Kaiserin-Class cruisers on the line, but the budget at present cannot support building both at once.

On the technological front, we, along with many other countries, have developed the Krupp steel hardening process, involving mixing the steel plate with chromium, superheating the armored face with carbon-bearing gasses, and then rapidly quenching it with jets of pressurized water. Our scientists are confident this will help improve armor by weight considerably, with a 20% improvement of effective thickness over our former Harvey designs to start.
 
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