Remove ads

A Simple Transaction I

Reader mode
After so many nail-biting, edge-of-our-seat fights, don't we deserve a simple and satisfying win? If the Apocryphal Curse does strike, Lord of Stalks' lower initial difficulty means less material for it to work with. Also, it stands to be a cool scene in its own right. Imagine Hunger brushing past Venitari's defenses and cutting down the tyrant, all his paranoia and preparations rendered dust in the wind. Consider what thoughts might occupy those final moments, the sheer dismay and disbelief as he realizes that in the end he was but a frog in a well, and Hunger the Empyrean Sky shining down. Sometimes, you just want to blast the curbstomp song.

Besides, are we really going to vote against a Pratchett reference?
 
Man, if Stalks wins overthrowing every government we meet is finally going to surpass fishing as a meme. I really don't know how to feel about that. But still, I do think going for it is kind of pointless when Waters is basically as safe and much less morally fraught! It's the option to take if you want to get a pass here; given 10.4 Bloodcasting he can already improve their standing of living far more significantly already! Plus this also saves our summon, which is pretty good to say the least.

No need to bow down to the youth and vigor of the new meme, for fishing has the power of Age and Treachery on its side! How could one deny it based on that!?
 
I think everyone knows about my aramament fish obsession.

Hunger is primarily a guy who's like to fish imo. And I've been saving up vote markers just for this moment.

But! This isn't the way. We can't fish the armament fish when all we want plan on doing is killing it.

No, we must take the higher path, go assassinate that despot or whatever, overthrow the government, then come back to Armany after fighting the Lo and have a true conception, fish vs Fisher, at which point we will best Armany and take the fish into our panoply and complete our build.
 
BrainInAJar said:
No need to bow down to the youth and vigor of the new meme, for fishing has the power of Age and Treachery on its side! How could one deny it based on that!?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
It does take a bit more time, but then again, that time is for Gisena to build the artifact, so we're not leaving them as unprotected as long as I first figured. During which Hunger can pressure the Protector, hopefully lowering his threat. Hm.
 
[X] The Lord of Stalks


I want to kill Discworld ruler,cunning and manipulation is worthless in the face of greater power.


I think don'ta paid attention on Tyrant first will bite us in the ass later but that predictable.


Another choice after we kill Stalk probably be "spend time to manage the loss and stability" and "Go straight to Lord Protector".

This is the reason why I think get Lord Protector first is a lot more easier in the long run.
 
A quick reaction: I think the string of votes with such a high blurb : plot ratio has really started to wear on me. We've purchased three EFBs without seeing any of the mechanical benefits on screen yet. Blurbs that make the numbers get bigger are only satisfying when the numbers go up!

The temporal distortion makes it harder to get inside Hunger's head: we've got so much information that he doesn't have yet. We are already voting about plot elements following the Tower adventure, before even formally opening hostilities with the LP. That makes it really hard to feel invested in the stakes of this adventure.

(Some of this is salt about losing the vote: I just don't care that much about the Human Sphere. But some of this is real feedback about structural choices in the last few updates.)

I didn't pad this out with quotes and purple prose, but this is probably a more honest reaction than one where I'm trying really hard to be clever or entertaining.
 
Last edited:
Orm Embar said:
After so many nail-biting, edge-of-our-seat fights, don't we deserve a simple and satisfying win? If the Apocryphal Curse does strike, Lord of Stalks' lower initial difficulty means less material for it to work with. Also, it stands to be a cool scene in its own right. Imagine Hunger brushing past Venitari's defenses and cutting down the tyrant, all his paranoia and preparations rendered dust in the wind. Consider what thoughts might occupy those final moments, the sheer dismay and disbelief as he realizes that in the end he was but a frog in a well, and Hunger the Empyrean Sky shining down. Sometimes, you just want to blast the curbstomp song.

Besides, are we really going to vote against a Pratchett reference?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Not actually a tyrant though.

You will note, the blurb explicitly said that his people are happy and free.

Monarchy is not the same thing as tyranny. Just because his title is "Despot" doesn't make him one in the modern sense.

Also, you previously described him as "personally reprehensible". Also not true. He's personally unpleasant, sure, but there are plenty of unpleasant people in the world, not all of whom deserve to die. Furthermore, again, his people are "happy and free", due to his constant efforts. Which, of course, implies that he cares for his people and his responsibility to them, at least to some extent, and I would call that admirable rather than reprehensible.

Thus,

[X] The Armament Fish

Seek heaven through fishing.
 
Projectile said:
Plan is to Thornspam, we can't easily hurt it otherwise. Teleport on top of it/nearby, with Aeira having buffed Hunger a second ago, and with RoQ having been cast five minutes ago (if it lasts that long). And any temp buffs Adorie's folks might be able to give? Then hit once, dodge around to try to regain stealth (it'll have to be a loooooong dodge), then thornspam as quickly as possible in a frantic attempt to kill it before it kills us. Apply Silver when you get ganked. So we have two free hits, if we're lucky. How to pump that number up, that's the question.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Lol check out this idiot, unlike me who is smart, he completely forgot Second Stage was a thing.
 
For all those worrying about this 3 pick fight potentially becoming 4 pick fight due to apocrypha, can you consider what giving the tyrant time to prepare bodes for us?

He quite literately is a cunning, dark lord of evil and malice. We rolled a 90+ and he still got traps and guardians to fuck us over and were giving him time to marshal his armies, to set up traps and summon new gaurdians?

With Oaf we were favoured in a war with the tyrant if we didn't give him any time to prepere and were effeciant. Now however that is not the case.

Going for the 3 pick fight right now which can pottentialy be a 4 pick fight due to apocrapha lowers the risk of us dying to the tyrant. We will once again be favoured in a war against the tyrant in terms of sheer power we will posses.

The tyrant most likely right now is quite likely going to be a 3 pick fight minimum and that's not counting the forces he marsheled, his commanders, the summons, the gaurdians, the traps, and whatever bullshit he has planned for us upon our return.

Fish is risky, yes. But it helps us in our war against the tyrant through sheer power we can possibly gain from it which helps.
 
Fundamentally speaking, I think we're going to have to destroy the Armament inside the fish. That's why I don't want Armament fish.

Edit: Whether it be Verschlengorge or the Armament Fish, I want Hunger to experience Totality at some point.
 
Last edited:
[X] The Armament Fish
Not very fond of killing people when they pose no present danger to Hunger and co's lives, and haven't committed really massive crimes? Like, if it was the only option, I'd do it I guess...
Lord of Stalks is never said to be personally evil, merely irritating and unpleasant. His "petty tyrannies" are probably stuff like "tea not at the right temperature" or whatever and I'm not ready to kill him over that.
(also, I just want the fish)
 
Zampano said:
But some of this is real feedback about structural choices in the last few updates.)
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

There's been a few things that have been combining to reduce my interest personally. This phenomenon is definitely a big part of it though, much of the quest feels like it takes place in the votes with minimal connection to the narrative. Like I'm watching a play and every time the curtain goes down the next scene is only tenuously connected to the previous. There's only so much that reading the programme can cover for the action on stage.

There was always a degree of this, but it feels to have increased a good bit after the temple arc. I think because that was a longer term focus, now Hunger feels unmoored, drifting along connected to nothing.
 
Genesys said:
Lord of Stalks is never said to be personally evil, merely irritating and unpleasant. His "petty tyrannies" are probably stuff like "tea not at the right temperature" or whatever and I'm not ready to kill him over that.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
That his family would be relieved at his death implies he's abusive on a personal level. The option can be read otherwise, but it takes a fairly charitable interpretation to reach a different conclusion.
 
If we look at moral utility,Kept Stalk alive is better for everyone in the long run.

The problem is we are the problem and Lord Protector will do that to us because we let our chance slip away to kill him quickly.

I don't want to complain endlessly about spoil milk but we need a lot more power if we try to deal with prepare Lord Protector.

I hope everyone realize that when choose that previous choice.
 
skaro said:
If we look at moral utility,Kept Stalk alive is better for everyone in the long run.

The problem is we are the problem and Lord Protector will do that to us because we let our chance slip away to kill him quickly.

I don't want to complain endlessly about spoil milk but we need a lot more power if we try to deal with prepare Lord Protector.

I hope everyone realize that when choose that previous choice.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

There's a very real possibility we wouldn't have been able to kill him quickly anyways and we end up as America while he's pulling the Vietcong's strings.
 
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top