But he is facing what is apparently half a beast of gaia, the girl might be able to sense lies somehow, enhanced senses or straight up lie detection, personally i don't think it's worth the risk of death when we can figure things out later. Since lying would be rather rude after all.
I've seen nothing that hints at an inbuilt lie detector. We made a social faux pas and we need to save face. Hans's poker face is also very good.
 
But he is facing what is apparently half a beast of gaia, the girl might be able to sense lies somehow, enhanced senses or straight up lie detection, personally i don't think it's worth the risk of death when we can figure things out later. Since lying would be rather rude after all.

If she was actually a Beast we'd almost certainly be dead right now, she's a beast candidate, and Candidates are -though definitely extraordinary in nature- still people at the end of the day.
 
My reasoning is that we don't know whether or not she could see through a lie, but what we do know is that being caught lying would be the absolute end of a civil agreement and conversation and may go as badly as to push her into sicking Berserker on us. So let's go with the option that isn't technically lying, but seems to be what she wants to hear.
 
I've seen nothing that hints at an inbuilt lie detector. We made a social faux pas and we need to save face. Hans's poker face is also very good.
If she was actually a Beast we'd almost certainly be dead right now, she's a beast candidate, and Candidates are -though definitely extraordinary in nature- still people at the end of the day.
That's fair, but i Agree with impstar in that I think the risk is too great. She does have berserker after all. We might be able to get away with it, it's perhaps even likely, but if we don't that's almost certainly a bad end. Better to live to fight another day with near certainty than to go high risk, high reward.
 
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Well, I horrifically misread the situation. Alright Hans, lie between your teeth!

[x] "I'm sorry. That was indeed rude. I was just overwhelmed, I hope you can look past that. It was like I was in the presence of royalty so I panicked." Lie. Lie your ass off.

I might change my vote. I had legitimately thought that asking Berserker was a good idea last vote, so I'm still trying to regauge the situation.


[x] "No, no I'm not ignoring you. In fact, I want to be very good friends with you, Manaka. Very good friends, I think we can help each other in this War."
Mage diplomacy and hopefully speaking her language, go!
 
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My reasoning is that we don't know whether or not she could see through a lie, but what we do know is that being caught lying would be the absolute end of a civil agreement and conversation and may go as badly as to push her into sicking Berserker on us. So let's go with the option that isn't technically lying, but seems to be what she wants to hear.

Again, there's no indication Manaka can pick up on lies. I'd rather go with the lie then go with a line that just screams we're outright terrified of her.
 
Again, there's no indication Manaka can pick up on lies. I'd rather go with the lie then go with a line that just screams we're outright terrified of her.
And why would that be a particularly bad thing? Girl's crazy, it might actually make her more cooperative to think she has the upper hand.

The problem isn't that I think she can pick up on lies, the problem is that if she can, we're in for a really really bad time. Or even if she just thinks we're lying and doesn't have a lie-detector power. In my opinion, we lose almost nothing with the "no, no I'm not ignoring you" vote. It's low risk, medium to high reward.
 
And why would that be a particularly bad thing? Girl's crazy, it might actually make her more cooperative to think she has the upper hand.

The problem isn't that I think she can pick up on lies, the problem is that if she can, we're in for a really really bad time. Or even if she just thinks we're lying and doesn't have a lie-detector power. In my opinion, we lose almost nothing with the "no, no I'm not ignoring you" vote. It's low risk, medium to high reward.
It's bad because it smells of weakness. It gives Manaka more confidence to treat us like a slave or henchmen then as a partner. It means we can't do what we want to do and are effectively stuck serving her for the meantime. We can do better than this.
 
It's bad because it smells of weakness. It gives Manaka more confidence to treat us like a slave or henchmen then as a partner. It means we can't do what we want to do and are effectively stuck serving her for the meantime. We can do better than this.
I feel like the lying option here is somewhat the same. Saying that it seemed like we were in the presence of royalty makes it seem like we felt inferior to Manaka, and might still. And even if we don't feel inferior, I don't feel like it would abate her ire with us, only make her more on edge.
 
[x] "No, no I'm not ignoring you. In fact, I want to be very good friends with you, Manaka. Very good friends, I think we can help each other in this War."
It's bad because it smells of weakness. It gives Manaka more confidence to treat us like a slave or henchmen then as a partner. It means we can't do what we want to do and are effectively stuck serving her for the meantime. We can do better than this.
We're completely at her mercy and she's smart enough to know that. I'd say she'd be perfectly right to think we're weak compared to her position.
 
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Looks like I messed up the last vote. My fault for not reading through the votes properly.

[X] "No, no I'm not ignoring you. In fact, I want to be very good friends with you, Manaka. Very good friends, I think we can help each other in this War."

The lie vote is too patronising and very weird coming off the last vote. Ignoring Manaka isn't treating her like royalty.

I also don't like the odds of outrunning a servant with a cane, even with Reinforce.
 
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I feel like the lying option here is somewhat the same. Saying that it seemed like we were in the presence of royalty makes it seem like we felt inferior to Manaka, and might still. And even if we don't feel inferior, I don't feel like it would abate her ire with us, only make her more on edge.
Fair point. I suppose it can be read like that.

[x] "No, no I'm not ignoring you. In fact, I want to be very good friends with you, Manaka. Very good friends, I think we can help each other in this War."
 
My biggest issue with the lie option is that is runs counter to the last vote, where Hans ignored her to talk to Berserker. You don't treat royalty like that, and no amount of lying will cover up that faux pas.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by AnonymousRabbit on Jul 31, 2020 at 1:57 PM, finished with 32 posts and 14 votes.

  • [x] "No, no I'm not ignoring you. In fact, I want to be very good friends with you, Manaka. Very good friends, I think we can help each other in this War."
    [X] "I'm sorry. That was indeed rude. I was just overwhelmed, I hope you can look past that. It was like I was in the presence of royalty so I panicked." Lie. Lie your ass off.
    [X] "I think I've seen enough here. I was hoping to make an alliance but things seem rather... Unstable. I'll be taking my leave and I hope you have a good evening, Miss Bodysnatcher."
 
Night Ride
[] "No, no I'm not ignoring you. In fact, I want to be very good friends with you, Manaka. Very good friends, I think we can help each other in this War."

Right. You need to do this properly.

"No," you replied with a firm tone. The girl's eyes widened as you hit your cane lightly on the ground and met her gaze, "No I'm not ignoring you. In fact, I want to be very good friends with you, Manaka."

Once your cane struck the ground, you were able to dampen her intimidating chill by making it warm. Drawing a rune on the ground, you slowly raised the temperature and made her give you a curious look.

"Very good friends indeed... I think we can help each other in this War," you continued as you took a step closer to her even as your entire being screamed you to get away, "Whatever you need, I may just be able to provide. Within reason, of course. Plus I think you and Berserker would prefer the warmth of a roof over your heads than cold police station cells."

Berserker watched your little performance as you stood before her. You raised your cane and spread your arm.

The girl then had her lips curl into a smile, "I see. You're an amusing person, Mister. Sorry, I can't remember your name when you spoke it before. It didn't seem important but now..."

"Just call me Hans," you replied with a patient tone. It seemed that she took well to your tune.

What a childish personality despite her appearance. That was going to take some getting used to.

"Hans..." Manaka said as she touched her lips, letting your name roll over her tongue, "I see. I'll try remembering it. You look like a better time than Berserker over there."

"Oi, what's that supposed to mean?" Berserker said as he stepped forward.

"You're too rugged and brutish. You look like an orc, Berserker," Manaka giggled.

Berserker blinked before shaking his head, "You're lucky, boy."

"Am I really?" You asked him with a helpless look.

Finally, Manaka looked back your way and said, "Well, since we're friends now, I'll tell you something nice, Hans."

You blinked as she walked towards you and placed a hand on your chest. You felt your circuits flare up in response to her touch as the sensation of undergoing cardiac arrest filled your body. You didn't fall but you saw...

.....
....
...

Within a Bounded Field, hidden from plain sight, a world of sand...

Within it a building... A hospital?

Inside it, at the innermost chamber you saw her. A young girl with black hair and glowing golden eyes, her head perking up and meeting your gaze.


.....
....
...

You gasped as you stepped back as you looked at the girl before you. She swayed on her feet before she fell towards you, catching her you kept her from falling.

"Tomorrow, the Grail will release her location. Every three days, the Grail will make itself known to all Servants through the city... Masters as well," Manaka said as she held on to your shoulder as she regained her strength, "It's another rule of this War."

Every three days? Then... It didn't matter if you secured the Grail first. Every three days, it would broadcast itself throughout the city, no doubt attracting Servants from afar and forcing Masters to act.

The keepers of the Grail must then defend the Grail from all six Masters...

"How... Did you know?" You asked her as she slowly backed away.

"This girl asked the church. You'd be surprised what they can share," Manaka said with a mischievous look.

Berserker chose this time to speak, "Hey, missy. Are you all right? You're not ruining that body are you?"

"Her circuits are mediocre and average in number. Magecraft I'm used to while potent won't be useful as they normally would... How strange," Manaka said as she looked at the back of her hand.

That may be true but it was clear which one of you was the better Magus.

"Right. Why don't we leave this place. You're welcome in my base of operations-" you said as Berserker tensed and turned.

WHIZZ

CLANG


He raised his blade and parried an arrow flying through the air.

"Get back!" Berserker barked as he swatted several more arrows out of the air before gritting his teeth.

Manaka remained quiet as she let her Servant protect the two of you from the sudden hail of arrows. Berserker masterfully swung his swords and pushed aside the incoming projectiles with expert ease.

"In hindsight, talking in an open space is just asking for this to happen," you noted as you got behind Berserker.

Manaka looked ahead towards a building where the arrows were flying from. She then raised her hand and smiled, "There she is. Berserker, go."

"Gotcha. Boy, keep an eye on her," Berserker said as he jumped off the ground to shoot towards the skyscraper at the distance.

The arrows continued to fall, forcing you to act and pull Manaka close. Slamming your cane on the ground you called out loud.

"Aegis!" You declared as a shield of light manifested and stopped three of the projectiles from hitting you two.

"Archer is going to keep Berserker busy," Manaka said as she looked at her Servant, "We should be safe."

"Let's not get complacent," you advised as you tapped your bum leg and reinforced it for now. You can walk properly for now, "We need to vacate the area."

You let your cane float in the air as you grabbed Manaka by her hand. Her eyes widened just as more arrows rained down on the two of you. You ran alongside her before a distant boom denoted Berserker's encounter with the final servant.

You ran towards a nearby apartment building and pulled Manaka along.

"You can make it float?" She asked while looking at your cane.

"It's just a party trick. Nothing special," you replied as the two of you entered an alleyway as you deployed familiars of light behind you to cover up your path.

You and Manaka ran down the alleys to escape Archer's sight. Just as things were getting good for you, this had to happen. You need to get Manaka out of here somehow.

"Ah, a dead end," Manaka said as she stopped by your side.

You turned and saw a figure step through the curtain of gray smoke coming from the ground. You got between them and the girl behind you before you grabbed your cane out of the air.

"Tonight was sure to be a lucky one, don't you think?" An elderly man in a black suit said as he tightened his gloves, "I was told to hunt one Master but to catch two at once is just a strike of fortune."

A Hitman that's come to assassinate you? And to employ an enemy Master at that...

"An acquaintance?" Manaka asked behind you as she stared at the old man with her piercing blue eyes.

"An enemy," you told her as you lowered your cane, "Let me guess who sent you then, a girl with orange hair?"

The old man simply smiled and spread his arms, "Perhaps..."

Your Command Seals weren't reacting to him. Was he a Master?

Just as you were thinking that, the old man raised his fists and got into a stance. He was going to engage you in melee then? You readied yourself and raised your cane towards him.

"Let's just say that killing you would bring a large amount of money in our hands," the old man said with a cold look in his eyes.

However...

Between him and the girl behind your back, you were more afraid of Manaka. But she didn't have the capacity to sustain her power so while she was strong, she probably couldn't be of help with her limitations.

The old man moved and you tensed. You spun your cane and swept it on the air. Blue fire erupted before you as you blocked the old man's punch with Aegis. Runes appeared around him and had a conflagration consume him.

"Aegis!" You roared as your shield expanded and pushed forward, sending the Hitman staggering back.

He was unscathed but you already grabbed Manaka's hand and kicked down the door to your left.

"Aren't you going to kill him?" Manaka asked as you pulled her along.

"I'm thinking," you replied as you ran through the kitchen of a restaurant at the foot of the building, passing through some people before getting through the dining area and stepping into the streets.

You crossed the road as tapped your cane once and a black car came speeding towards you. It stopped a few feet away from hitting you as your driver raised an eyebrow at you holding hands with the girl by your side.

The Driver raised his sleeve with your rune on it as you got around the car and opened it. Manaka got on the back as you took the passenger's seat.

"Pleasant evening, sir?" Your driver asked.

"He's coming Hans," Manaka said as the Hitman stepped out of the restaurant.

"FLOOR IT!" you barked and your driver indeed floored it, the car shooting forward before the Hitman could even chase you.

You leaned back on your seat with a sigh and pulled out your phone, "Fuck me, I hate this."

"It comes with the War, sir," your driver said.

"Nice car," Manaka noted from the back seat.

"Your praise warms my heart, Miss," your driver replied with a chuckle, "Though it would seem that our hunter has yet to give up."

You looked at the mirror to see the old man from before drive a sleek black motorbike.

Night Ride
[] "Lose him in traffic. I hope you can show me your skills you love boasting about."
[] "Open the windows, I'm going to blow him up. I hate stubborn people."
[] "Miss Manaka, please put your seatbelt on. Mr. Driver is going to slam the car into that prick."
[] Write in...
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note: It's 2am. Here, this is to make up for the short update earlier.
 
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I don't think any of the choices are bad here. I believe this is just how we want to deal with the assassin.
 
Hm... Do we want to leave the assassin alive? If we leave them alive, then they'll certainly report back that we are alive. If they don't come back, then their employer can guess that Manaka's host somehow killed them, which is less information and might not implicate us?
 
[x] "Open the windows, I'm going to blow him up. I hate stubborn people."

I don't want to lose our ride in the event ramming him doesn't work.
 
>Manaka
Fucking hell.
More like the Hans is a total lucket War.

[X] "Open the windows, I'm going to blow him up. I hate stubborn people."
 
[X] "Open the windows, I'm going to blow him up. I hate stubborn people."

But Hans, we are stubborn people.

Hm... Do we want to leave the assassin alive? If we leave them alive, then they'll certainly report back that we are alive. If they don't come back, then their employer can guess that Manaka's host somehow killed them, which is less information and might not implicate us?
I cannot think of a reason not to kill him?
 
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[X] Write in... All three options. Run interference with magic while tring to loose him in a speed chase and if he show himself skilled enouth to catch up counter his interception by pouncing first and aim to cripple him so the car slam has a better chance of success.

Tima to adapt and overcome, a single couse of action would be predictable, being impredictable, slipery and dangerous pay dividendes in these wars.
 
[X] Write in... All three options. Run interference with magic while tring to loose him in a speed chase and if he show himself skilled enouth to catch up counter his interception by pouncing first and aim to cripple him so the car slam has a better chance of success.
 
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