Gabrielle Fairbright would like a word with you. The Brutes would've been good too considering their anti-Mage shtick and who we are fighting. Getting information can be just as valuable as pressing forwards as well. We'll be far from powerless even while Tired.

We've been told that Adventurer's are generally mid-tier level at best. The best time to use them was as a buffer to let us invest in longer term payouts, we decided against that. Then further took the risk ourselves and are now picking up a build that can handle the layer. We also potentially poisoned the well if we did murder those merchants. At this point there's rather marginal gains likely for any information/recruitment we'd be likely to pick up. Meanwhile the costs have basically stayed the same or even perhaps risen.

Fairbright herself is likely still relevant, but if we weren't interested in her when she could give us a defining advance and a bunch of other rewards safely as well help boost us quicker in future encounters for a while I don't see why we'd want to deal with her now when she offers much less but is still potentially dangerous enough to mess with us. Brutes are perhaps somewhat relevant still if we account for buffing them? Not really worth splitting the reward with but if they wanted some lesser loot it would be perhaps worth bringing them along. Basically there is some benefit still but it's overshadowed by another round of experience it's competing with.

The Encampment was such an extreme risk that we mustn't approach for fear of negative consequences after a Doom of the Tyrant proc

There was a sweet spot for it, but we've mostly passed it now.
 
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There's an interesting dissonance going on about the encampment. Voters simultaneously seem to think that:
  • There are no adventurers in the Encampment who would be strong enough to help us with the Middle Layer, let alone the Inner Layer
and
  • The Encampment was such an extreme risk that we mustn't approach for fear of negative consequences after a Doom of the Tyrant proc
I don't advise saying something like "the voters" considering these are most likely different people that may or may not have changed their minds on it given other considerations, etc. I myself didn't support Come Clean for most of the last vote about this because of the Arete cost, a meaningless concern now given how things ended up. It's just changing circumstance.
We've been told that Adventure's are generally mid-tier level at best. The best time to use them was as a buffer to let us invest in longer term payouts, we decided against that. Then further took the risk ourselves and are now picking up a build that can handle the layer. We also potentially poisoned the well if we did murder those merchants. At this point there's rather marginal gains likely for any information/recruitment we'd be likely to pick up. Meanwhile the costs have basically stayed the same or even perhaps risen.

Fairbright herself is likely still relevant, but if we weren't interested in her when she could give us a defining advance and a bunch of other rewards safely as well help boost us quicker in future encounters for a while I don't see why we'd want to deal with her now when she offers much less but is still potentially dangerous to mess with us. Brute's are perhaps somewhat relevant still if we account for buffing them? Not really worth splitting the reward with but if thye wanted some lesser loot it would be perhaps worth bringing them along. Basically there is some benefit still but it's overshadowed by another round of experience it's competing with.
We know there's people inside who went past the outer layer though. We could just focus on them, if we do go to the encampment, or try to meet them in the field where they might not have heard of us. Using Gisena as an example they don't need to be super at our level in order to be useful if they have some good utility; we are lacking some of that currently. We can still get people to support us, even if not to fight with us.

We could also finally use that planning Bonus from Praetor to try and capture an Inner Resident who ventured into the outer layer and grill him a bit. Given Gisena's nullity disabled an Accursed-given power I'm sure she'd be able to bring down our capture to normal levels, especially after evolution. Then we could be much more effective at facing the Temple thanks to insider information. We just need to not go full murderhobo and plan this a bit.
 
gib estetic pls

I YET LIVE

MIGHTY AS THE MOUNTAINS

and as ponderous too

Low on creative juices due to work and also being generally satisfied with how things are going, feeling no need to summon the fullness of my wrath to correct the cultural misdemeanour that is xianxia.

Tragic for the thread but I'm glad you can truly enjoy this quest. You deserve it.

WHERE ALL YOUR INFINITE DREAMS COME FINITELY TRUE

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Naturally a Cursebearer theme park would be both acutely aware of its own limitations and nonetheless be superior to all other possibilities comprehensible to our puny mortal minds across all possible spectrum of measurement in every meaningful value.

It was early morning when he felt it, like a string flailing at his eyes. Verschlengorge also halted, sensing in its occult intelligence something like kinship. Halfway clambered upon a chalky hills, it twisted to scan the horizon, crags like skyscraper fangs of a creator titan, the lazy dawn trailing down each skyward peak with honeyed paint.

"Eh?" Letrizia jiggled the joysticks. "Hey. Hey! Aw, come on!"

I love how this implies the controls don't actually have any coercive power and Versh usually just goes with the directions because it usually doesn't care. It's like a reverse Ratatouille, or perhaps a father carrying his son on his shoulders.

As a side note, god I love how well you can portray the kind of imagery Rihaku uses; I'm profoundly envious.

"Calm down," said Hunger, laying a hand on Letrizia's head. Oddly this instantly calmed her, for reasons she had declined to elucidate. "I feel something." Now that he concentrated, he found an instinctual knowledge of this strange bearing, an almost tangible thread. Into that thread he focused his attention and the spark of his power.

For our boy to have forgotten the terrible power of headpats, truly he has sacrificed for his work. Why keep knowledge of anime if you're just going to forget its key insights? I'm guessing that last bit isn't Accretion so much as the logic transcending power of a High Cursebearer creating an enchantment that connects to the automatic customization function of the Cursebearer interface to convey the necessary information in a familiar manner.

There was the groaning of tortured stone that precipitated a thunderclap chord. A nearby edifice, wrinkled with age, crumbled into sand fine as fluid that streamed into a yawning, mirror-smooth circular abyss. Even after many minutes, the sand did not abate, a sourceless cataract dyed in the pale blue cast of the shadow of dawn.

Confession time. With the advent of summer, dawn arrives at the extremely unreasonable 4 AM where I live, which means I've stayed up late enough to know exactly the colour that last part is talking about. It's genuinely a beautiful image and I feel deeply guilty that the first thought I had regarding the picture you've painted was "isn't that just a recoloured Looney Tunes hole?"

I suppose it's appropriate for the High Cursebearer who, upon transcending his burdens, decided to make a fucking theme park.

Hunger poked Gisena, who stirred with a start from her nap on the cot. She groaned, cracking her neck in a sinuous rotation, scratching and picking away the detritus of sleep from her orifices. Somehow, these motions, purified by findross, were sensual and exotic to the eye. "What is it," she half-yawned, raising a fist to her lips to stifle it. Hunger noted a fresh layer of dark gloss had appeared on them. It was absurd.


And coming from a user of Accretion, that's really saying something. I can only assume the findross has decided she's gone from a relatively standard high fantasy isekai world with magical girl characteristics to full on degenerate fanservice harem Jumpchain adventure and is just changing to suit. What dread power, to make even a cute yawn into some kind of dangerously seductive action. We've really gotta pick up some form of Sorcery one of these days; it would be fun being the memetic hazard rather than the memetic hazard's husbando.

"A mysterious pit. I feel an affinity for something within."

"Men often do."

"No, a literal hole in the ground. Look."

Damn, the findross shift is affecting her mind too. Fortunately, Hunger has grown skilled at dealing with Gisena, swiftly acknowledging the innuendo in a way that robs it of all humour and then getting on with his point. How long had he spent getting pwned to unlock the Clarion stratagem? I assume our Ring must've helped because playing hard to get with Gisena is probably the highest stake challenge we've encountered yet.

Hang in there Hunger.

Gisena, in the middle of stretching in a slovenly yet enticing manner, took notice. "Oh, that's interesting! Let's go have a look."

"Uh, no?" Letrizia waved her hands. "Let's not go into the mysterious pit?"

Absolutely the cutest in the world, to think we wouldn't immediately throw ourselves into the unknown and potentially lethal hole out of curiosity. She's going to have a fucked up sense of risk assessment as she grows older; a good reason to teach her Accretion so she can have the plot armour to make it work.

"Letrizia," said Hunger, leaning toward her. "This is something I have to do."

"A-as a, a man?"

Weird direction, but sure. Hunger nodded. "Yes."

"Well, o-okay." She puffed her reddened cheeks, eyes filled with dewy determination. Hunger felt this was the awakening of something he should beware, but that was a problem for later. For now, there was a mysterious hole to enter.

I'd comment but I have no idea what's going on here, other than our manly charm being so rugged that it can change Zea's mind entirely with a single word. Our adopted daughter wanting to do her best to support her father? That would be cute, though she might feel a bit betrayed when the authority figure she respects so much decides to engage in a war of bloody conquest. Is this how Seram felt towards Control? Or is this a Kaji-Asuka situation? Because I will have to leave the room via 9th floor window if Letrzia tries to mack on us.

"So eager to enter a hole." Gisena picked at the strap of her dress, revealing a tantalising triangle of pale flesh.

Hunger waved at her dismissively. "Hush, woman."

"I am a woman, thank you for noticing."

Damn Gisena, you thirsty. Or maybe this is just frustration after several weaks of travel in which that gorgeous sadboy badboy widower just won't take the fucking hint. Ganbare Gisena, he's not nearly as dense as he looks. While the jokes will plink right off, I'm sure he'll fall to serious pursuit eventually. If nothing else, you've got your gang to ensure it.

Jumping in the pit, the dimensions of the aperture widened, the stonefall receding from the dissipating column of light. For minutes they descended, until suddenly the Armament was standing, impactless, upon the floor, surrounded by a hill of grains glittering beneath their with a billion colours that blended in distance into the pure white. Darkness loomed deep and vacuous, the floor seeming an endless pane of compacted cloud that stretched beyond the radar returns of Verschlengorge.

They pressed onward. Without texture or landmark, the Armament walked blindly, a lone island of illuminated stone without the intrusion of colour, guided only by Hunger's thread-bearing into the pure abyss.

"This is boring," Gisena complained. "It's just darkness. I have my eyelids for that!"

I admit, I laughed. It's this kind of contrast between lush description and snappy dialogue that gives these quests a lot of their humour for me. I would have thought Gisena would be more excited about mortal peril but perhaps she just doesn't appreciate that kind of tension. Too tragic, how will you get your career as a streamer started if you can't react entertainingly to Seven Sleepovers at Sal's?

There was a sudden shockwave, soundless and overwhelming in force, shaking Verschlengorge down to the deadbolts. The darkness deepened, cold to the eye. In two aspects darkness engendered fear: that of absence of light, anti-Pythagorean imprecision which diminished the appearance and certitude of objects within its shroud, and of obfuscation of danger and the possibility of terrors. In the second way was the darkness magnified; there seemed, without doubt, that beyond the boundary of light churned an unending maelstrom of malice, monstrosity beyond imagining, a writhing hell of hateful and wicked things that desired only to snuff the dim candle of safety and welcome the Armament and crew into its bleeding embrace.

How interesting. I assume this kind of defense is also customised to a degree given how it communicates things directly into his instincts and is primarily focused on obfuscating sight. The effect itself puts me in the mind of the Plenary Brand used in conjunction with Wizard of Oz from the original AST. Perhaps some form of non-mainline mitigation? Unecessary for a High Cursebearer but I imagine those guys take any and every opportunity available to fuck over their Curses after a few octillion years of dealing with them.

"Oh yeah," said Gisena as Hunger glared, "the Apocryphal Curse."

"What should I do?" Letrizia cried, white-knuckled grip trembling. Gisena rubbed her head as though pacifying a rabbit.

The cutest in the universe.

"It's just an illusion," said Hunger. To all other senses hostility screamed its arrival, but the thread-spark betrayed its true absence. Verschlengorge's eyes flashed sky-blue, and a blade of vision cleaved the darkness, stretching into infinity. The Armament crossed its claws across its heart, before sweeping them outward. Another pulse, and the light expanded, riding into the horizon east and west.

I wonder why they'd bother with both the defenses and the illusion if only Cursebearers can find this place. Keeping out cowardly Cursebearers? There's gotta be some chumps that end up getting picked considering how many of their kind exist. Or do they just want to prevent weakling Cursebearers from being followed by gods? The security for this place must be absolutely crazy, even ignoring the fact that it's a theme park populated by Cursebearers. Perhaps it's just the reflexive paranoia of a Progressor who could achieve those heights.

Darkness fled to reveal the empty space. There truly were no creatures, or any features. In the far mists, softened by distance and atmosphere, pillars like cliffs rose endlessly into faint needlepoints. No clouds, though there was space enough; insufficient humidity.

CursedLand has the nicest skyboxes.

But most interesting of all was a tablet, inset in the floor, edges delineated only by faint gold embroidery, lines of metal worming through transparent stone. In dimension it was perfectly square, exactly four-hundred ninety-six feet each side, every inch scrawled with thin calligraphy that Hunger found he could read, each tangled snarl of stroke and incision unlocking in his eyes.

"This is it," he said. "Show it to me." Verschlengorge's external cameras obliged, expanding the image until the uppermost corner was rendered visible, a square no larger than a fingernail, thick with symbols of abstract design arranged in seamless interlocking complexity. Hunger began reading. "The bearer of this token, whoso carries it as carries many Curses bestowed in bargain with the High One, is blessed with access into the hidden realm for himself or herself or themself or so on, with additional companions to a number not exceeding five save in instances of multitudinous unity..." He scanned the rest. It seemed to be more legalese, compacting screeds of conditions and exceptions with exquisite efficiency.

Huh, so it's so absurdly huge because that's the minimum size they could use while still effectively conveying the information to someone as limited as Hunger is? After all, by Cursebearer standards he's probably a literal baby. I'm sure if he wasn't a total scrub it would be some kind of hyperdimensional torus that would let him read every element of the terms and conditions simultaneously or whatever.

That said, why does it perfectly correlate with the fucking imperial system of all things? And why is it a square and not a rectangle or literally any other shape? Because that's probably not tied to any kind of customization geared to Hunger. Those are such minor details in the grand scheme of things but they bring up so, so many questions about the guy who designed all of this.

That, combined with the clauses we see starting by immediately accounting for hive minds and/or Voltron scenarios effectively show just how bizarre and foreign Cursebearers would be to each other, despite their commonalities. While both of our protagonists hail from derivatives of our general culture, there's more in heaven and earth etc.

"It's a membership signet," he concluded. "For some sort of--"

"--exclusive space what the."

They had been transported to some endless grid of white etched on black stone. Scattered across the plain, each within a square of white lines, were contraptions of every size and design: brazen chariots hammered into the countenance of bulls, hovering trilithons refulgent with crimson radiance, oozing flesh carved into hollow wheels, pirate galleons aloft on steel legs. Intermittent aisles would break the pattern, each filled with trolleys. The sky was dark, a black canvas punctured by a circle of stars like a ring of teethmarks, yet everything on ground was illuminated as though by afternoon day.

In one direction, there was a low brick wall with a gate. Oddly it did not diminish in size despite being at least several hundred miles away; Hunger felt, with certainty, it was only a short yet noticeable distance away. A small sign was pasted next to it, declaring, in the same mysterious glyphic hand as the tablet: Please do not leave your engines running.

It's like if Diagon Alley did a fusion dance all the cool bits of mythology and they Potara'd with the fucking Wacky Racers. This is the kind of shit I'm talking about; though the Accursed was a human from a relatively familiar universe, his Cursebearers are from all over the place and I want to know about literally all of them.

What's up with the ominously glowing Stone Henge? Why do those boats have legs like Silt Striders? Who was gross enough to make a car out of meat? All these hints of different universes makes me really regret not heading to civilization in this quest; who knows what kind of weird and wacky shit we'd end up seeing?

Powerlevels are cool and all but worldbuilding and nerd lore are even better. Pump it all directly into my veins, please.

There was a gush of steam. Verschlengorge, always thrumming with activity, descended onto its knees. It became quiet, then silent, the cockpit opening as the mechanoid titan shut off.

And now Versh gets to join in on the menagerie as a giant, evil looking mecha with three heads. He fits right in and I find that kinda delightful. Tragic he couldn't come enjoy Curseland with everyone else. Or maybe he could but just doesn't want to because the previous guy had the Praxis and once you've experienced those attractions, the mortal daycare just can't satisfy you anymore.

Letrizia slapped the power button several times. "Come on! What is this?"

"You always take us to such nice places," said Gisena. She seemed discomfited, and less alluring then usual. Thinking on it, Hunger himself felt lighter. The Curses he had taken on seemed phantasmal, their yoke lifted temporarily. Some sort of wide-spectrum nullification?

Hah! The Nullity nullified. How does it feel, Gisena? I suppose it shouldn't be surprising that use of findross was what made her look good at even 6 AM in the morning; only magic could manage that, no matter how pretty she might be.

It does feel like a bit of Praxis supremacy though, it being the only system likely to still function in the anti-magic field of a High Cursebearer. I assume their Curses are nullified anyway so, as usual, the Praxis proves itself to be the objectively correct choice.

RIP.

"What is this place?" Letrizia wondered. She stared at the various parked devices with unabashed intrigue.

"The hidden realm," said Hunger. "That tablet, it transported us here. I feel my Curses lightened but my power is..." He clenched his hand with a distorted screech of air. "I am also diminished, but not totally."

"I feel the same," said Gisena. She focused, to no effect. "My resilience is unchanged, but I can't turn my mind to hostile acts."

Huh. I assume the lack of mental interference for Hunger to be a Cursebearer privilege. Would the hostility interdiction field still apply if Gisena was a Geas companion? Or is that just due to the differing nature of their powers? Accretion has many uses, even in peace, but anti-magic is less versatile and a bit of a wet blanket besides. No tolerance for the fun police in CursedLand!

Interesting their Curses aren't removed entirely; I assume that's to ensure that no matter how light to yoke may become in the fun zone, it will still chafe over time. Else, some Cursebearers weak of mind might just chill here forever, assuming no external factor forcing them to leave. Old Seram from the Manifest Realm would probably be fine with being somewhat punchable for an eternity of peace and joy.

"Well I feel normal," Letrizia added. She fell into an introspective mood. "I guess I could go pee." When danger struck at any moment, it was important to take the opportunity for relief.

I admit to feeling a sort of irrational twinge in my mind whenever people make references to elements of mortality like pooping in these quests. That's the first and foremost thing I'd assume people take care of with magic or science so seeing dudes who can run around at mach 3 being subject to these kinds of constraints is weird to me.

Poor Letrizia, why even have giant robots when your civ can't even do this much?

The water closet of the Armament remained functional, though in low-power mode. After Letrizia completed her business, they agreed to inspect the mysterious gate that stood only several tens of metres away. Descending the emergency ladder, Hunger commandeered a trolley for Letrizia to occupy; Gisena piggybacked. In this arrangement, Hunger began sprinting at superhuman speed.

Yet, despite several seconds of high-speed movement, Letrizia desperately gripping the wireframe, the gate only slightly receded in distance. Yet another distortion of spacetime? Hunger slowed down to a trot, then a walk, then the slowest possible ambulation imaginable for a man with one arm transporting two women. In all instances the rate of approach was identical.

The image of Hunger grim-facedly pushing an extremely alarmed looking white haired Asuka in a shopping cart with Gisena clinging to his back like a koala made me burst out into laughter. The things you do when your friends aren't on the level and your powers can't support them. #ProgressionProblems*.

*curious what Cursbearer twitter looks like. You gotta assume there's one big brained High Cursebearer trying to replicate social media, at least when there's enough of them to get together and make a theme park.

"You can get off, Gisena, the speed doesn't matter."

"You won't even help me? Typical man." She tightened her grip.

The Thirst is Real.

But she's not wrong. It's only polite to offer a helping hand towards lady attempting to get off, Hunger, especially when you're the one who asked her to mount you :V

Eventually they reached the gate, Gisena hopping off and helping Letrizia from her turtleback predicament. The gate, a frame of metal covered with a lone plank, seemed to suppress a riotous uproar of noise from behind it. From their position, no matter how far they stretched, they couldn't see over the low brick wall, nor through the blatant gaps in the gate's construction.

"Enough, we'll be here forever." Hunger pushed the gate open, stepping through.

I'm having trouble visualising a chest high wall that they are nonetheless unable to see over. Nor do I really understand how they can't see through gaps in a gate. Is there something obstructing their vision on the other side? Or does spatial warping just make it so that they can never quite get a good angle on things.

What I can visualise perfectly is how adorable it would see to see Letrizia stuck in a shopping cart and needing mom help her out. Absolutely the cutest.

He was beset by a cacophonous celebration of colour and noise, unyielding, overwhelming. Fireworks like crimson serpents spiraled through the sky, cones of light split into phantasmal gemstones, candybergs of spun sugar, sweet to the eye, drifting like clouds low enough to tear a piece. From every corner, brass polished to aureate sheen trumpeted anthems, enchanted harps self-plucking, flutes self-flauting. Black crags stood resolute against the night, foamy fountainheads streaming like white ribbons from their heads to water emerald groves baubled with gemstone fruit.

I should've expected the power of Progression to apply to childlike wonder but I really wasn't expecting it to be this cheerful. But then again, given the 24/7 burden they operate under, I imagine Cursebearers are some of the hardest partiers in whatever locality they find themselves. They take after the OG in that regard. I can vaguely recall Rihaku saying something about Odyssial only ever going to one First Age party on Lealope's insistence but that party was completely optimised.

My shitty meat brain quails at the idea of imagining what the Most High would do to maximise fun because I'm not sure if I'd survive trying to even think about it. While he doesn't have any specific party skills, he does have an incredible grasp of human and superhuman psychology and the power to warp reality around him via Shinmaic calibration. Unleashing that power to the task of having enough fun to last him until the Lathe of Heaven was complete would probably result in an area of Creation being permanently scarred by the transcendental rager he threw.

And all above them, written in gold, were the words WELCOME TO CURSEDLAND.

"...That's a terrible name," said Letrizia.

Bold words coming from a woman whose parents couldn't be bothered to spell check a birth certificate.

There was a rapid series of footsteps as they were approached by a woman dressed in an elegant dark pantsuit, pink hair bound up in a neat ponytail. "Visitors! New visitors! I get to do the introduction!" She saluted them. "Hello, Cursebearer and companions! Welcome to CursedLand, where all your dreams come true, for reasonable definitions of "dream" and "true!" I'm Lilea, and I'm here to introduce you to the facilities at your disposal!"

Yo, it's ya girl. Good to see her again, I always like these kinds of throwbacks. I wasn't around for the Unnamed but going through the thread after the fact gives me a feeling of mysterious nostalgia. Presumably, Seram pulled some strings to help her find a stable job somewhere unlikely to be destroyed when Control ends the world.

She'd be good at the job too so it's not like its pure nepotism. She was among the most moral, compassionate, kind and understanding characters we'd ever seriously interacted with in these quests. Her and Orihime. And Aurelia too I guess but she doesn't count. She could put Young Seram at relative ease and considering that guy's social abilities were pretty much at the nadir of humanity, that's pretty impressive.

You could do a lot worse when it comes to people who seek to interact with a group as diverse and probably hurting as Cursbearers.

"...What?" said Hunger.

"CursedLand is a terrible name," Letrizia repeated.

"Is it?" Lilea tilted her head. "What would you call it instead?" Despite her choice of words, Lilea appeared genuinely interested in her opinion.

From anyone else, I'd assume this was a passive-aggressive response designed to put someone on the spot while maintaining plausible deniability in case of a negative reaction. But from Lilea, it seems like genuine curiosity. I bet she wouldn't even poke fun if you said you couldn't come up with anything. It's more likely she'd try genuinely understand your reasons for disliking the name, work with you to come up with an alternative and submit it to the appropriate authority if she's truly convinced.

What a terrible power.

Course, I doubt the High Cursebearers that created the theme park can even pretend to give one single fuck about making it sound attractive so I guess the name stays. It's not like Cursebearers have any real alternative.

"Are you--" Letrizia blinked, put on the spot. She frowned, mind whirring a mile a minute. "U-um, Superhappy Funtabulous Land."

"Nice improv," said Gisena.

Hey! Don't be mean, Gisena, she did her best. It's not her fault that she sucks. Blame her universe for not being kind enough to provide significant attribute augmentation through magic or space magic. Really, that's something you guys should be working on as soon as possible. She'd be a lot better off if she was a Dunedain or something along those lines.

It's not like the name's inaccurate anyway, even if it's a little undignified.

"What is this place, exactly?" Hunger asked.

Lilea snapped to attention. With the air of officialdom, she clicked her heels and recited: "CursedLand was created by several High Cursebearers as a place of leisure and communion for their fellow Cursebearers, providing a constant of safety in these hard times. Within its cosmic boundary, no time passes, and most Curses are suspended to a level indistinguishable from normal mortal debilitation!"

I'm really, terribly curious about Cursebearer society. Do they have social moores and etiquette? How do these people interact? The contract is a clear sign that they've got at least some level of shared commonalities. Or maybe there's a bunch of different societies, it's implied there are a shitload of Cursebearers and more than a few Accursed-adjacent species like the Foremost.

Is there a Church of the Accursed in the multiverse? There's gotta be, right? He's basically God except there's no problem of evil with him since he's got a good explanation for not having eradicated all suffering ever, namely that he tried it and just before he could succeed, the Devil rounded up his posse and decided to ambush him. Once he's resolved that, we can all be led into the golden tomorrow.

Actually, I'm curious if this wasn't actually another Lathe of Heaven situation. We already know that the Cursebearers are tasked with opposing Destined Heroes to a degree. Could it be possible that it's not just the evil bastards who tried to stop him? There's tons of settings where the balance of good and evil or order and chaos or whatever the fuck is an integral part of the setting. Basically, the status quo.

Odyssial would annihilate all of that and I imagine rendering more than a few great cosmic beings either redundant, changed unrecognisably or slain beyond the possibility of recovery. It might just be the kind of programming error where the Unconquered Sun and Luna were forced to defend the busted, broken husk of the world they lived in due to their fundamental nature, despite the possibility of replacing it with something infinitely better.

Also, curious to see how this place changes as the beings in question get more and more powerful. What's the point of time not passing to someone who can transcend linear time? What continuums and dimensions open up to those mightier than we can comprehend?

A naked, heavily muscled man ran past, dripping oil. "I got my dick back! Hell yeah!" He rolled swiftly out of sight.

Or maybe they're all just a bunch of dinguses who are mortal at heart. Why did he start doing entirely unnecessary combat rolls though? Or is that just a spontaneous dance performance from someone who has been temporarily relieved of the Eunuch's Affliction?

As Letrizia tried to pry Gisena's hand from her eyes, Lilea shook her head sadly. "The Brand of the Naturalist. It forbids the use of all synthetic artifice, including woven fibres. Sadly, some Curses cannot be suspended." She shrugged, and began to lead them to the most palatial section. "Oh well, let's go! I'm sure a Cursebearer of your calibre would like to see our Praxis Park! We have a Praxis Colosseum, Praxis Monopoly, Praxis Kart, Praxis Kart Double Dash--"

Why do all of these just seem like increasingly roundabout ways to say no holds barred sparring? Possibly to the death if they've got a Praxis Party 8 section in there. Or do they use this as a proxy for murder due to the aggression dampening; turning their hypercosmic powers to the task of cheating at Monopoly. You might not be able to cause direct harm but you can certainly torture them psychologically when they land on your Boardwalk Hotel for the third time in a row.

I imagine people with the Doom of Rivalry get a lot of use out of this place.

As a side note, it seems like it should be more like the Doom of the Naturalist, considering the schema we've seen for the other Curses. Or maybe the Affliction if it's not just a mental thing and he actually starts withering if he wears some clothes. Chuffed that she thinks someone who oiled up their muscles like that would be pained by the Curse that "forces" him to not wear clothing. Or is that just her compassion for the other guests?

"I don't have access to the Praxis," said Hunger.

"Oh, I see!" Lilea made a hard turn, directing them away from the boulevards of obsidian and fountains of aqueous flame, transparent diamond statues struck through with veins of a stone that shimmered and twisted constantly like stardust suspended in ink, to the plainly adorned doors marked by inflated letters: MORTAL DAYCARE ZONE. "All conceivable games played by humans are present and staffed. You can even win prizes and memorabilia, or even win the chance to have your likeness in the CurseMon Series!" She fanned out several cards, each depicting a person labeled as Cursebearer, their feats and strengths annotated numerically in accordance with some obscure schema. "Collect them all!"

Truly, genuinely tragic. Who knows what kind of infinite joys await those who wield the Praxis, given the obvious bias at hand here? For a Progression type to not even wield the Noble Praxis is a clear indication that the Cursebearer in question is either a literal baby or intolerably lazy. No wonder he's getting put in a daycare.

Especially when it's clear that this place is filled with the sickest descriptions and sights. Kinda reminiscent of Odyssial's thoughts on creation being a wondrous place for the Titans who would be entirely unaffected by the horrifying dangers of their Creation and could thus instead admire its natural beauty. Meanwhile, those flying rivers of lava could probably wipe away a mortal civilization as a side effect of their passage.

Bet none of the horrifying shit that happened to the Primordials would have occurred if they'd set up a Mortal Daycare Zone. But that would require compassion, ethics and a willingness to use something other than sentient beings for maintenance and fueling their clubhouse so I guess they were doomed to eternal torture from the get go.

Poor, dumb bastards.

"Ooh!" Gisena grabbed one. "This one has two thousand Attack Points. Lord Hunger, do you have two thousand Attack Points?"

"I could," said Hunger, somewhat petulantly. "You don't know that."

Aww, is our boy jealous? Does he actually care about her opinion? That's really cute actually, the gap moe is too strong. That said, when it comes to the scales of Cursebearers, you'd be lucky to have one attack point, let alone two thousand. You really need to get on the level if you ever want your card to be actually sought after.

"How could I possibly know how many Attack Points you possess when you don't attack me?"

"Hmph. You want me to attack you?"

"I think you can be a little more rapacious." Gisena twisted her hair in her fingers.

Walked right into that one, Hunger. Are you doing this on purpose? Because that would be some top tier bullying. What a meta-tease!

"CursedLand isn't only for Cursebearers!" Lilea explained, leading them on a motorised buggy through a bowling alley of infinite length. "Access is also permitted to several non-affiliated persons if they prove trustworthy! It rarely happens though, and several other conditions must be met." She skidded to a halt next to a single lane, where several men were seated while another, head occupied with a half-helm, examined the distant pins with unerring focus. "Like here! Hello, there! I hope you're enjoying our facilities!"

I assume those conditions include being a memorable character from the Rihaku quest and not being a xianxiaboy. Curious to know who handles the offers and why the High Cursebearers bothered. I assume that's probably a clause to allow for non-Cursebearer Praxis using species to get in the club house. It's not like all the people in here are Progressors anyway so it's very possible they could at least hang with the Combat-types.

"I cannot speak for the others, but I am enjoying the game," replied one man, brown-haired, dressed in Eastern clothing. He smiled kindly, poking his glasses. "Truly, the cosmos has more things than can be dreamt of. To find so many with the same will to power-- ah, if I had a heart it would be warmed!"

I suppose it's to be expected that Aizen would be able to take even this in stride, even if I'm 100% sure he was squealing like a schoolgirl when the offer first came. That guy was always more about the ascent than the peak so knowing he has infinitely further to go would probably hearten him, even if there's no chance that he'd ever make it anywhere near anything resembling relevance. Unless, of course, someone gives him the Praxis.

Regardless, it's good to see a few more familiar faces.

"We're glad you're enjoying your visit," Lilea said cheerily.

"Tch." Asiatic in features, save for a shock of orange hair, a different man slouched in disarray.

"Now, now, Kurosaki-kun. Whatever your grievances, you shouldn't be unkind to staff."

"Hey, fuck you, Aizen."

Hey! Mind your fucking manners Ichigo, it's not Lilea's fault you're a traumatized kid in a shitty situation who got kidnapped by his worst enemy.

By the lane, the helmed man bowled. "Ah, a seven-ten split."

Nathor? Doesn't really fit with the other characters in the scene but no-one else is coming to mind here. Is my brain just farting? If it is Nathor, I'm not surprised he's only got one line, aside from Rufus (who I imagine is a "literally who?" for most and possibly not even invited into the clubhouse anyway) he was probably the most forgettable, both because his quest died early and because he's not nearly as cool as the Good Doctor.

"Kurosaki-kun." A faint frown marred the man's peaceful expression; power like a looming thunderhead gathered in the space. "Mind your language."

"No, fuck this." Kurosaki stood up. "You kidnap me, take me to this weird-ass dimension, make me bowl, and for what? You want me and Ishida to make up? I'd sooner cut my own throat!" A sonorous echo overlaid his words, a bestial gurgle resembling a bonfire crackle. "You killed my father!"

Yeah, nah, I'm with Ichigo on this one. No matter how pleasant you sound, exerting your spiritual pressure is you looking for a fight. Aizen's smart enough to know that Ichigo wouldn't respond well to him pulling that shit, though I suppose it might have just been a ten trillion IQ play to make all the latent emotion and resentment come out. If he starts fighting, Uryu's likely to tag in and given both share a mysterious ability to connect with their opponents while in combat, that would probably resolve their respective interpersonal issues a lot faster than letting it lie.

At least doing that shit here is unlikely to lead to Ishida murdering Ichigo (which the Prince of Light could 1000000% do).

"No, Kurosaki-kun." The man raised a hand outstretched. "I am your father."

Sudden flashbacks to Orihime's entirely serious and not at all Star Wars references upon Uryu's betrayal. Ichigo really walked right into that one, he knows very well the kind of company he keeps.

When are we getting our space-fantasy adventure, Rihaku? And space opera + mechs does not count. It's laser sword or nothing. Though I suppose it's a bit early to tell, not like we know shit about the Human Sphere anyway.

"Fuck off."

"Haha. Yes, just a little jape to lighten the mood. But your father is still alive."

All the fight dissipated from Kurosaki. "What? That's bullshit."

"What need would I have to lie? Indeed, I could have killed him; however, Ishida-kun prevailed upon me to spare him, for your sake." He glanced to another bespectacled man, who looked placid in the face of this chaos. "Did you not inform him?"

I really like seeing Aizen's absolutely transparent and crystal clear attitude. As far as Manipulation goes, I genuinely think he's got the highest we've seen in these quests, except for Control. Seriously, what a massive improvement over the original.

Ishida raised his glasses. With unimpeachable gravitas, he said, "I forgot to tell him."

"Ishida-kun," Aizen chided, sounding disappointed.

What a dick move dude, sick glasses techs can't cover for that. I get you're an emotional masochist who feels like he's got to take all the burdens on himself and everything Ishida but you did let him believe his father was fucking dead for a hot minute my dude.

There was a clatter of pins. "Ah, a spare."

"It genuinely slipped my mind. Cleaning up after Yhwach was more complex than I anticipated. I was wondering why he was so truculent, but to be fair, it's no less than his usual self."

Now don't give me that shit Ishida, Ichigo is stubborn but I imagine he'd be a lot more chill after you took over the afterlife, fixed the issue of Hollow attacks and maybe solved the eternal atrocity that is the existence of the Soul King. At the very least, he wouldn't have to be a Substitute Shinigami any more.

"You--my father--my father's still alive?!" Kurosaki roared. "We mourned him! We buried his empty casket! Yuzu wouldn't stop crying for weeks!"

I was going to make a snarky comment about Soul Society and visiting rights but oh shit, Isshin's already a ghost. Killing him would probably make him reincarnate into a literal baby, making their father dead for all intents and purposes.

Seriously Ishida, what the fuck my dude!?

Very quietly, Lilea set the buggy to roll on. "We can't do anything for them," she whispered. "We're good but not that good."

Don't worry Lilea, no one is that good. At least no-one who would care enough to do so. Fortunately, you can leave it to papa Aizen, who has enough dad energy for both of these two troubled brothers from different mothers and fathers and general metaphysical genetics.

"We also have several motorsports arenas. If equestrianism is your thing, the stables are for you! And our gokarting course is highly rated!"

Below them the scream of tires filled the air as several karts screeched by, engines livid with turbo flames as they slalomed through tarmac, forest, riverbed and flame. On the leaderboards, a stormy-looking fellow with an eyepatch climbed the ranks, standing proud from the hatch of his tank. His depiction was carried by a pair of women dressed like medieval reenactors.

The tank makes me think Ryoshu while the eyepatch and racing seems more Noboru while the fans could go either way I guess??? Who the fuck is this? I assume this is just me being a complete moron here.

Gisena latched onto Hunger. "I want one! Please please please?" She slung her arm around his neck, popping her Accursicle in her mouth.

Given the existence of Accursicles, I'm really curious what a High Cursebearer's relationship is like with their patron. For him to tacitly permit this sort of stuff coming from them, they've gotta be at least kinda close, right? Do they see him as an eccentric old uncle who has both high expectations for them and a genuine desire to see them flourish? Is he like a kindly grandpa? Not kindly in the sense that he gives out candy and spoils them with presents but in the sense that he's always got time for them and is willing to give great life advice by drawing upon his transfinite years of experience.

I think that might actually be one of the greatest privileges of becoming one of those luminaries among the Progressors; just being able to call up Odyssial and ask him for a bit of help with optimising your path towards your goals. The indications that we could actually speak with the Accursed were the most painful part of losing Pay to Win and Three Wishes.

Hunger looked down at the Accursed's melting chocolate visage. "I don't think they'll let you take one apart."

"We do!" Lilea corrected. "Some people find it very relaxing!"

How foolish of you, Hunger! How could you dare to assume CursedLand would try anything other to accommodate your wishes in a manner congruent with the absurd amount of resources they have access to? Their marketing might be more sober and realistic than those of mundane theme parks but that's what makes it an obvious indication of the infinite luxuries they have. They don't feel the need to lie to you and tell you that all of your dreams will come true when they know that Cursebearers would not entertain so weak an ambition as to be fulfillable by anything other than their own power.

That it is nonetheless capable of providing momentary satisfaction to such a group is a testament to the terrible power of one who has completed their Indenture.

You too might get there some day if you could stop being suicidal for five seconds.

A nearby man was bent over, retching, while some sort of Oriental zombie was fussing over him. "Master, please! Deep breaths, after me!"

Could it be?

"When my soul stops eating itself I'll get right back to it." He doubled over, onto all fours, and disgorged a baseball-sized sphere. It plinked on the ground, its glassy surface scored with teethmarks and filled with glimmering stars. "What the fuck," he whispered hoarsely.

There's no-one else who would react to such absurd circumstances with a characteristic bemusement and irritation.

It's good to see you again, my Prince. I have truly missed you.

And I like seeing the Celestial Orbs, even if they're more than a little bit gross and manky right now. I'd always thought of them as plain white metaphysical spheres but I think this might work better.

"Why, it's a Celestial Orb, master! The currency of the Heavens!"

"A what? Why?" The man boggled. "Wait, I just lost a spell. The one that shoots a light that makes you wanna die. Bleakblast or somehuuuugh." Plink-plonk fell another sphere of divinity.

God, this is horrifying as it is hilarious to watch. But why is he losing Diagram spells though? I'd have thought it would be pretty all or nothing. Or is that just due to the trauma of yartzing things bigger than his mouth? Weird spell for the Nameless to have though, presumably a substitute or supplement to the Mien Offense Shell.

A short woman in a motorcycle suit approached at speed. "Ehh? What's wrong with you? Eat something weird, hah?"

And Meimei's here too! I'm glad to see our boy was able to cure his wife because she's delightful. Nobody tell her about what we did to the other seasons and/or maybe her incarnation as a goddess. And yeah Mei, he did eat something weird, you siblings are the ones who fed that shit to him! Seriously, how did you even put it in his body, huh? And why can he puke it up?

"Mistress Vane! Master fell victim to a paradox attack from his alternate self! Bravely he punished such impetuous daring, but not without loss!"

Huh, very interesting that he can actually be targeted by such effects in this area. I can't imagine it's coming from within CursedLand, considering the source would be both a xianxia character and affected by the hostility interdiction. Could it be a pre-existing issue that only flared up now? Neat that people can strike outside of this place with the right circumstances; I suppose it would be too much for the High Cursebearers to make this place entirely devoid of tactical value.

Also, RIP Hubris!Nameless. You came and the Prince and you fucking missed, idiot. Shouldn't have got so greedy for the power of that Praxis; if that's what you wanted, you should've taken the deal as and when you could. Or at least go find a species that can access it, sacrifice your essence and work hard like a real protagonist. You'd have been the uncaring cosmos the Praxis was forged to fight against. At least canon Yong is happy and willing to become a family man than try to climb a mountain he's got no business being on.

We talk about frogs in wells a lot but whether or not it sees the world, can it not be enough that the frog is happy with its lot?

"HUURRGH." The man flipped the zombie off. "Kong if you were any more of an irritant speck in my life I'd be accumulating a shell of nacre around you and selling you to pharaohs."

Oh, now this is what I've really missed. The burns the Nameless can dish out are without peer, even if it's entirely futile against Kong's implacable Reason and complete lack of shame. God, I'm glad to see this ended exactly how I imagined it would. Both because now the Nameless has a place to vent his Red Option energy that isn't Meiling and because the Big Blue can actually withstand it without resenting his lot in life, making him the perfect butler/valet.

Also, they've got hilarious interactions. I almost laughed myself out of my chair.

"Yah, that's gross!" The woman slapped him. "Don't talk about drowning men in your pearly secretions in front of your wife."

"I'll save my necklaces just for you, Meimei."

"Not in front of Kong!"

My unironic OTP, far beyond any other. Any suggestion otherwise can only be met with violent rejection. The energy here is just too pure and powerful for it to be otherwise. I assume Might and Truth were the wedding rings? In the former case, does that mean they seriously just demolished the Labyrinth Empire and put an end to Cultivation? Or is that just due to the Cycle of Ages collapsing entirely?

"Why? He's basically furniture, or a dog."

"It's true, Mistress," said the zombie. "Think of me as a convenient but nonsapient artifice designed to serve, like those incredible "vending machines" for acquiring sustenance through pure monetary transaction without interacting with another human!"

You can treat him like shit and he absolutely won't mind because he doesn't really have feelings to hurt. His sky high dexterity and genius level intelligence make him very good at all manual skills, while spatial warping makes him good at fetching things and remaining out of sight as much as possible, along with its various utility applications. In a real pinch, you can just have him use the Sky Above the Sky and act as a temporary distraction and/or ablative armour.

"You know," said Lilea, "every day is so exciting!" She smiled.

"Wait, so, I got a winning popsicle," said Letrizia, holding up her denuded paddle. The Accursed, rendered in cartoon interpretation, stared dourly from the birchwood stick. "It says I can trade it in for Accursed Favour?"

"Lucky you! Accursed Favour is like a wish upon a star, except real!"

Wild that High Cursebearers are actually putting up something as valuable as Accursed Favour up as a prize, Letrizia must be the luckiest gal in the world because I can't imagine more than the tiniest handful of those popsicles have it. Or maybe the Accursed alots a level of Favour to be provided to CursedLand due to the value and meaning it must hold for his chosen.

"Some patrons like a quieter way to spend their time," said Lilea, walking them through the vast interior stadium. They passed a nine-storey indoor golf course, where a couple in matching tropical shirts were having a gentle argument ("Arthur, you can't just listen to everything I say, we're opponents." "Gotcha. Listen to everything you say." "Arthur."), Lilea pointing out the attractions. "We have a variety of peaceful activities, such as minigolf, hyakunin foosball, all the chess sequels, private cinemas, and even some TBD!"

Well, you can't say he's not doing exactly what you said, Imperia. You know that boy can't help himself, you really should've chosen your words better. I imagine they're a couple that pretty much never fights because one is so absurdly devoted to the other's ambitions and in a way beyond the transactional or superficial.

Also, where the hell was this Arthur during Terrascape? He's be infinitely more entertaining if he leaned into his schtick and willfully obeyed Imperia's instructions well past the point of sense or genuine deference.

Also, chess sequels???

"TBD?" asked Letrizia. "I want TBD! What's TBD?"

"We're still hashing it out. Over here is our quiet section, where visitors can quietly explore our information databases, or look at interesting birds. And oh my GOD." Taken aback by this sudden exclamation, they watched Lilea suddenly sprint to slap a disheveled man carrying several foil packets.

Despite the impact ringing with thunderous volume, the man was unmoved, instead staring mournfully at the foil packets spilling from his arms. "Oh man, my ramens."

Well, neat to see that Lilea at least still has some level of access to Chrysopoiea, even if she has to use it to entertain a super masochist. Pour one out for your boy, who is so used to hatred from supernally gorgeous women that he now enjoys it. What an absolute hero.

Seriously though my dude, ramen? Were you so deprived in your journey that this is what passes for luxury? Or do you just enjoy the reminders of humanity and mundanity that much?

"Mister LAW!!" Lilea, indignation writ in every inch, assembled her meagre height into a fearsome stele of outrage. "How many times must I tell you not to eat dry ramen in the library!! We have a restaurant for any cuisine you desire, if only you would consume it on the premises!!! You can even have freshly cooked, professional ramen, with free toppings and refills!!!! And SOUP!"

I don't know why but I burst out laughing when I read the sheer indignation Lilea channeled into the word "SOUP!" That said, it's broth so her entire argument is invalid. Surprised people can't take their dishes outside the restaurant though, that seems like functionality that would be very useful. I assume the reason it's forbidden in the library is to prevent disturbances to other guests at the mortal level who can't just autofilter this stuff.

"But I like eating ramen while reading," the man said diffidently, staring at the floor.

God, what a kicked puppy. Does he just enjoy being pathetic? Well, it's not like I don't get it, there's something fun about playing the sad boy who gets bullied, so long as its on your own terms.

Lilea grabbed a foil packet; in her slender yet powerful grip the contents within cracked into powder. "Mister Law, please treat yourself with some justice. This is not ramen worthy of a Cursebearer." In response the man only hugged his foil packets tighter, secreting them into various pockets on his outfit. "Oh, Mister Law." She wrinkled her nose. "You smell like six asses."

Ah, now I understand. When people hate you on sight and you've left everyone you've ever known behind, the feeling of someone willing to get angry at you for your lack of self-care must be genuinely heartwarming to an extend, as is defying their anger to continue wallowing in your own filth and misery, especially since you know they won't give up on you.

Also, sometimes its nice to get pushed around by a pretty lady. Don't worry Seram, I no longer judge you.

"Sorry." His eyes roamed, until they landed on Gisena. He looked faintly ill, and averted his eyes skyward.

Damn, the trauma depowering cuts deep. Poor guy, unfortunate that he missed out on how delightful Gisena can be. She's got more uses than just making toilets, y'know!

Lilea hurried back, looking contrite. "I'm terribly sorry! I've shown the wicked hand of my temper today. But this does conclude our tour!"

"...Are there no training areas?" Hunger asked.

Lilea tilted her head. "Amusement parks aren't gyms. No bodily changes within CursedLand persist outside of it. That's the price of its leisure, I'm afraid; the infinity of the zero. We also don't have hotels!" She glanced at Letrizia, and held a palm to disguise her lips. "Except those for, ahem, "whale music." But you can't stay there long-term anyway."

I suppose being unable to just rest would put a kibosh on any plans to just chill here for a few million years. Not like it affects Hunger too much anyway, the only way he can grow is through murder and it's not like he can practice his Praxis here anyway.

"What's a whale?" Gisena wondered.

"Well, thank you for your time," Hunger interrupted. "About the membership card, it's quite inconveniently sized...?"

Good dodge Hunger, if you let her know you'd be stuck here for a while yet and probably end up leaving Letrizia unsupervised. Course, the longer you delay it, the longer it'll take so you're doing this entirely at your own peril, my friend.

"It should resize to fit its owner, which is now you. If there's anything else?"

"No," said Hunger.

"Yes," said Gisena. "Is there a gift store?"

The gift shop attendant seemed superfluous, given that nothing had a price, but her own enthused recommendations had sold Letrizia on making several purchases to show her dedication, to say nothing of her hair tips.

Of course there's a gift store. Even more curious what this place is like when you visit it at level three trillion or whatever, assuming it's not just a cradle for the youngest of their kind. What kind of sick stuff could you get from the gift shop then? A replica of Ambition? A signed autograph from a High Cursebearer? Maybe even some kind of collector's edition Odyssial swag i.e. the equivalent of the Accursed's baby pictures?

Laden with memorabilia, they walked back to Verschlengorge. Letrizia was toying with an Accursed plushie, the side of her head occupied by a mask of the same. "Do you think it really shoots laser eyes?"

"I think there is a real chance you could display it in the manner of a crucifix and incinerate vampires," said Hunger.

"Awesome," breathed Letrizia.

Yet more evidence for a church of the Accursed. Not sure you should be telling her that though Hunger, at this rate you're going to end up the vampire she'd use it on. Live that Super Undead Chimera Juggernaut life!

Incredibly rad though. Should've known even a plushie of the Accursed would have sick magical powers. Wonder if the Accursicle had any too, aside from being maximally delicious and easily edible.

As the pilot clambered back into the giant robot, Gisena leaned in, taking Hunger into private conference. "Time doesn't pass here. There's no reason not to stay as long as you want."

Hunger looked at her. For a moment he marshaled his words, fleeting and sparse as they were, but shook his head. With a single movement he vaulted into the cockpit, where Letrizia was hanging the plushie on the posterior viewport screen.

I'm not sure if our boy even knows how to rest any more. To lay down his arms here might mean he just collapses entirely after all that he's been through. He deserves it but will never find peace until he and his companions are finally avenged. There's a reason his only sign of interest in this place is the training areas they may have offered.

Gisena climbed up herself. "You could have taken a real bath, at least! One arm can't wash itself, you know!"

Maybe he's just waiting for you to offer some help? Ever thought about that, Gisena? Well, probably not but there's no harm in making the attempt. Maybe one day, he'll even take you up on it!

"I suppose it would be nice not to taste soap, but sometimes we can't have what we want." Hunger settled into his seat. He felt a building energy, Verschlengorge activating without issue. "Let's go--"

"--back."

They appeared beneath the morning sky. All around them the mountains had been erased, as though stamped flat. Indeed, Hunger lifted his hand, where a square of stone had ensconced itself. On the obverse were the dense golden letters proclaiming his passage into CursedLand, the reverse occupied by those mountains they had climbed only minutes before, snowcapped and cloud-swaddled.

Well, if nothing else it's one hell of a surprise to pull out. Maybe he could add it to his panoply? We need a funtime artifact anyway and what could be more fun than an invite to the happiest place accessible in all continuums of all dimensions across a tranfinite meta-escalation of cardinalities?

"That's pretty neat," said Letrizia. Unobstructed, Verschlengorge plotted a straight line across acres of bedrock.

"Mm." He slipped it into a pocket, settling back. "Are you waiting for something?"

"Can we go back sometime?"

Hunger closed his eyes, muttering oaths. "Sometime."

Letrizia pouted. "Promise?"

"If you're good."

"Hah!" The pilot cracked her neck. "I'm the best."

The dad energy is overwhelming. I'm glad that, even if Hunger wants to get on that 25/7 grind, he'll still take breaks to make his companions happy. And having a place to unwind from the eternal tension and conflict of the Apocryphal would likely prove invaluable in the years to come. And hey, maybe he'll actually learn to enjoy the fun there once he has access to the Praxis? Can't brood productively all the time.

AN: CursedLand takes no liability for loss of dreams in the uncaring face of the cosmos, but at least they have transfinite quantities of ice-cream.

And at least half the flavours are comprehensible to mortal minds!

And that's me out. Let the vote go where it wills.
 
The curse is not indifferent to our actions, where it will always helpfully give us a static danger level 60% Uncomplicated Victory 30% Complications 10% death encounter or something. We put ourselves in a position where it only has to put a feather-light weight on the scale to result in extraordinarily bad outcomes for us. Other times it'll have to heave hard to even muster an inconvenience.
If that's really true we should empower Gisena so she can remove the Call then flee this temple.
 
We know there's people inside who went past the outer layer though. We could just focus on them, if we do go to the encampment, or try to meet them in the field where they might not have heard of us. Using Gisena as an example they don't need to be super at our level in order to be useful if they have some good utility; we are lacking some of that currently. We can still get people to support us, even if not to fight with us.

We could, it's just we need to find basically the peak of the talent that's available, promise them only minor rewards compared to the main prize as they're not worth splitting it with, and spend little enough time recruiting them it doesn't waste productive up time. It's a big ask basically, that still likely loses out to getting another three picks of experience.

capture an Inner Resident who ventured into the outer layer and grill him a bit.

Wandering around hoping to run into an Inner resident while Tired doesn't sound like a plan I'd support.

If that's really true we should empower Gisena so she can remove the Call then flee this temple.

Then we die to Ber's super power-leveling. It's going to be a good while before she can remove it based on what we've been told, which combined with the fact Rank is one of the best ways to run into suitable opponents means we'd start stagnating in growth due to the persistent debuff dragging it down. Unless Verschle's aggro alone could sustain us.
 
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We could, it's just we need to find basically the peak of the talent that's available, promise them only minor rewards compared to the main prize as they're not worth splitting it with, and spend little enough time recruiting them it doesn't waste productive up time. It's a big ask basically, that still likely loses out to getting another three picks of experience.
I mean, given the power of Progression we have the best chance of clearing out this Temple. We could simply make them aware of this fact (while flaring our Ring for dramatic effect) and ask them if they want to hop on. Compared to just staying here futilely trying to move to the middle Temple due to that damn Call in your head, our offer might seem like sweet relief. Just clearing the Temple at all might be reward enough for these people.
Wandering around hoping to run into an Inner resident while Tired doesn't sound like a plan I'd support.
I mean, us and Gisena are much stronger then when we fought the Magus; Gisena would be especially helpful if they rely on Soul Evocation. I grant that it still might make us Exhausted afterwards though; but I think it's viable at least.
 
I mean, given the power of Progression we have the best chance of clearing out this Temple. We could simply make them aware of this fact (while flaring our Ring for dramatic effect) and ask them if they want to hop on. Compared to just staying here futilely trying to move to the middle Temple due to that damn Call in your head, our offer might seem like sweet relief. Just clearing the Temple at all might be reward enough for these people.

This kind of strategy seems most likely to appeal to weaklings who know they have no chance though, Middle Layer explorer's are likely made of sterner stuff, it might help tip them over the edge but I expect they'd need further incentives. Also what if they decide no? At that point we've revealed critical strategic info about our capabilties to a loose end. Do we kill them? I expect the inners have spies in the encampment based on the line the archer gave about hiring mercenaries. Keeping an ear out for news of troubling new adventurer's or major sallies being planned seem useful enough for them to go for it. Might be why the higher level adventurer's are so secretive.

I mean, us and Gisena are much stronger then when we fought the Magus; Gisena would be especially helpful if they rely on Soul Evocation. I grant that it still might make us Exhausted afterwards though; but I think it's viable at least.

My concern is that he was the ugly unwanted weakling child of the inners, and anyone else we run into would be vastly stronger, which I think is pretty plausible based on what Rihaku said about our chances in the inner layer.
 
yea yea, we just leave through the dangerous temple without rank, no biggie. Just 20% of our remaining Apocryphal-free time, we can spare that.

I'm exaggerating for effect, but I do feel strongly that Exhaustion introduces much greater short-term risk than Paralysis. And with progression, short term matters!
No Bloodslayer is explicitly riskier in the short term than Saint. Unsurprisingly having no upgrades while in the most dangerous part of the temple with a 15% penalty to our main attack and escape method is more dangerous than having large stat buffs and taking exhausted.
 
Then we die to Ber's super power-leveling. It's going to be a good while before she can remove it based on what we've been told, which combined with the fact Rank is one of the best ways to run into suitable opponents means we'd start stagnating in growth due to the persistent debuff dragging it down. Unless Verschle's aggro alone could sustain us.
cool then by your assessment we're dead so I don't have to continue this debate
 
This kind of strategy seems most likely to appeal to weaklings who know they have no chance though, Middle Layer explorer's are likely made of sterner stuff, it might help tip them over the edge but I expect they'd need further incentives. Also what if they decide no? At that point we've revealed critical strategic info about our capabilties to a loose end. Do we kill them? I expect the inners have spies in the encampment based on the line the archer gave about hiring mercenaries. Keeping an ear out for news of troubling new adventurer's or major sallies being planned seem useful enough for them to go for it. Might be why the higher level adventurer's are so secretive.
Again, strength need not be a concern if they have good utility; something like Thinker or Mover powers would be greatly helpful even without large upfront power, if they have that too, even better.

What are the odds of any one Adventurer we meet being a spy anyway? And if they blabber on about us on the camp tavern, how likely is the spy to take the information seriously? They would be listening second-hand and we haven't done anything truly revolutionary yet. How useful would "gets strong really fast" be if they don't know our capabilities and location anyway?
My concern is that he was the ugly unwanted weakling child of the inners, and anyone else we run into would be vastly stronger, which I think is pretty plausible based on what Rihaku said about our chances in the inner layer.
If only the unwanted weakling Inners gallivant around the outer layer, then that's who we will be targeting anyway. Even a Middle Resident would give good information most likely. We just need to use the INT and planning bonus we voted for.
 
cool then by your assessment we're dead so I don't have to continue this debate

Maybe reread my posts?

Again, strength need not be a concern if they have good utility; something like Thinker or Mover powers would be greatly helpful even without large upfront power, if they have that too, even better.

What are the odds of any one Adventurer we meet being a spy anyway? And if they blabber on about us on the camp tavern, how likely is the spy to take the information seriously? They would be listening second-hand and we haven't done anything truly revolutionary yet. How useful would "gets strong really fast" be if they don't know our capabilities and location anyway?

Yes, people with good enough utility to be relevant for us are going to be at the peak of the pile, and expect rewards and treatment commensurate with their station

I expect there's a dossier on every adventurer that has survived an incursion into the middle layer, as there's not so many of them that's a tall order. We have no idea what strategic responses the inners could bring to bear if they were roused to do so. No need to present them info that might tip them in favor of intervention.

If only the unwanted weakling Inners gallivant around the outer layer, then that's who we will be targeting anyway. Even a Middle Resident would give good information most likely. We just need to use the INT and planning bonus we voted for.

They sent out a weakling and he was killed, I don't expect the next one they send to be in the same tier as the one they just saw isn't strong enough to do the job.
 
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That second part is actually false. The inner temple wasn't giving anything hugely useful for Hunger even before he managed to gain extra-power from this update. Unless he faces an dreadbeast, Hunger isn't gaining much from the inner temple. And for other things...true, but nothing that would help with power to help to advance within the temple.
We've never been to the inner temple. This was the middle temple, apparently all these builds will get stomped if they try and immediately go to the inner.
 
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Will hopefully have time and muse to continue next week, but it's getting late here now.

Ahem! In an ontologically similar universe where the Temple posed a somewhat less straightforward challenge.

Omake: "Temple of the Moon's Tail: Part 1"

It was with an ominous feeling that Hunger watched the closed Temple doors behind him, nigh-certain that he was going to regret coming here. The Call that had attuned to him through the Ring as soon as he entered seemed somewhat playful, but with an undertone of violence that he couldn't ignore.

Still, they said that with a crisis came numerous opportunities, especially for someone like him, who thrived in and veritably fed on conflict. Long experience told that while it was better to take things safe most of the time so as not to end on the wrong end of the dice after rolling them a time too much, there was also a time and place for reckless advances in pursuit of a worthy goal.

He'd raided the Forebear's tomb and snatched his oldest partner from danger's jaws once. He'd learned the Forbidden Arts despite the numerous warnings of his predecessors. And in that last, desperate clash... he'd lost much, so much he could hardly bear to remember it, but it was only through taking that risk that he gained final victory over the Tyrant.

So yes, Hunger was all too familiar with gambling with his life when all seemed lost and there was no way out. The situation hadn't seemed quite so dire at the start, but his experiences over the past week had taught him that his Curses weren't to be trifled with, Apocrypha least of all.

He needed some way to get ahead, and the Temple seemed like a heaven-sent opportunity.

Hunger carefully walked across the entranceway, passing the warmly lit antechamber and creeping along a corridor that led into an open range. The bizarre architecture of the Temple did nothing to calm his senses, but none of it seemed immediately dangerous, so he ignored the feeling.

Soon he came across his first opponent, a giant knight positioned on a verdant hill. It stood with its arms crossed, seemingly bereft of weapons, but Hunger didn't dare relax. As his enemy began to approach him with incongruously light footsteps for its bulk, Hunger studied it more closely. Clad in armor the color of a clear sky, it presented an imposing figure, its size belying the alacrity with which it moved.

Silently Hunger prepared himself for a long and hard battle-

DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION: EXPERT

With a blink the former Hero watched the world change around him, colors exploding into motion till he couldn't recognize his opponent's form among them. Before he could get truly worried - and think about what the booming words seemed to imply - reality resolved into the vision of an old arcade, the two of them standing next to each other on a stage. Before them was a screen showing a nonexistent score for the two of them and a countdown that was nearing zero with every moment.

The rules impressed themselves upon his mind immediately: the one with the highest score would lose, and that loss came at the cost of their life.

Of course. Why not? This was a place Apocrypha had led him to, what else had he expected?

There was a lot he would have like to say at that point, but there was only enough time to position himself and get into the right mindset. The damn knight thought to challenge the former Hero, but he'd chosen the wrong game.

On the dance floor, Hunger was king.

Soon all his thoughts were swept away, leaving only the familiar steps that would surely lead him to victory. Hunger impressed his will on the world and moved, watching the screen like a hawk as the numbers climbed higher and higher, the dance instructions becoming increasingly complicated and fast-paced yet still far from his limit. The knight was easily keeping up with him too, seemingly unconcerned about the added weight of his armor nor about its supposedly reduced range of movement.

Hunger narrowed his eye, briefly observing as magic sparks jumped across the armored plates. It wasn't like he could complain about cheating, but it was still an inconvenience. Just how far did this magic support stretch? His enemy seemed like an untiring machine, executing the steps with perfect order and grace. Implacable like a mountain yet graceful like the wind, it inexorably moved across the floor, a bona fide whirlwind that Hunger soon recognized as a worthy opponent.

The fleeting distraction cost Hunger though and he failed to react to a sudden pacing change in time, hearing a loud blaring as his score stopped climbing and he was forced to begin anew. The knight inclined his head to the side, and Hunger could swear he heard a snicker.

This was troublesome. He'd gotten complacent and forgotten his impairments. With only one eye and a missing arm, his judgement and balance were in disarray, so despite the overwhelmingly superior physical abilities compared to his last challenge on Earth, he was still prone to mistakes.

Even so! Hunger might have underestimated his foe, but this was still within range of his calculations!

Without stopping his movements, Hunger waited for the right moment. Using his secret weapon too early might not ensure the overwhelming victory he needed to make up for the blunder. He heard the knight finally make a misstep and begin the dance anew, but he still had a sizable lead on Hunger. So the former Hero waited, completely focused on the screen, and watched the arrows blink in and out of existence with alarming speed.

At last the right moment came, the game accelerating to a punishing pace the knight had failed to follow previously. In a single fluid motion Hunger stabbed the Forebear's Blade into his heart, stepping out of his body and kicking it backwards as it made its last steps, seamlessly continuing the dance as the knight jerked in surprise and missed his own step.

A smile stretched across his ghostly lips, his motions now free of the limitations of flesh. The lead the knight had managed to amass in the beginning swiftly shrank and closed, this more agile Form allowing Hunger to achieve a new high score the knight didn't have a chance of reaching.

His enemy nevertheless tried to recover, but it was too late for that, Hunger shooting straight for the top with laser focus, ignoring the knight's ignoble attempts at distraction.

When the game came to an end, the knight's shoulders slumped and he knelt in despair, the world swirling in a rainstorm of colors once more and resolving itself into the picturesque landscape they'd met upon. With a last keening cry the giant knight's armor fell apart, its animating magic spent and inert, its contents hollow like Hunger's feeling of victory.

For in the distance Hunger could see more knights marching in his direction, their eyes promising revenge for their fallen brother.

He was pretty sure it was time to high-tail it out of here.

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What do?

{} Defeat In Detail. It is the sign of a sharp mind when one tries to circumvent walls in one's path instead of smashing through them all. You've proven yourself the indisputable superior of the individual knights, there is no need to take greater risks. Seek out these (now slightly less) worthy opponents and show them what's for. +1 pick at next Experience spending point.

{} DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION: CHALLENGE. They might have caught Hunger off guard, but with the new moves granted by his ceaseless Progression, the Hero was ready to show these smug bastards their place. Nothing, not even death, would bar Hunger from taking his rightful place as the King of the dance floor. Grants +2 picks to the next Experience spending point and the Title [Truth Is Like The Sun], giving you a diplomacy success bonus of 20% when trying to negotiate with chivalrous foes.

{} Meditate on Memories. Much has been burned in the wake of the battle with the Tyrant, yet still some things remain in the dark corners of your beleaguered mind. Dust off your arcade skills to prepare better for the trials ahead while waiting for the Temple doors to reopen. Perhaps Gisena has pertinent advice? +1 Arete.

{} Advertise a Dance Troupe. These knights have shown you the limitations of working alone. It would be remiss of you not to take that lesson to heart! Use your Pressure to look for other adventurers wandering these forsaken halls. While they're unlikely to be up to your standards, they would have some necessary information on the types of challenges ahead and would serve as a nice backdrop.

Your victory granted you 2 picks, with 4.25 Arete remaining after previous purchases. To simplify things, pick one of the following options:

{} Imperial March. The Forebear might not specialize in the sublime arts, but as in all things, on the dance floor might reigns supreme too. Take two Echoes and let your feet keep up with your spirit.

{} Ballroom Gown [2 Arete]. Promising grace and skill on par with the greatest dancers in the history of mankind, this pretty dress can change both colors and shapes to suit the situation, though the maximum bonus is only available in its base form. Is Evening Sky trying to tell you something?..

{} Altering The Deal. When subject to a short-term Geas (lasting no longer than a day), allows you to introduce an additional condition both parties are forced to obey. It's a long, long way from Mitigating your Indenture, but we all have to start somewhere.

{} I Spy [2 Arete]. Gain a minor predictive ability based on judging an opponent's muscle movements. There are still many ways to circumvent this ability, but it also opens several important avenues of evolution for eye-based powers.

{} Undying Vanguard [5 Arete]. No need to look afar when you have companions that could support you in your time of need. While they won't really be able to keep up with your moves, there might be other challenges ahead where Gisena's talents could prove valuable.

AN: Did you know the moon has a tail of trailing sodium hundreds of thousands of kilometers long?
 
[X] Speak to Letrizia
[X] Star-Blade Saint
Back to my og build, I've been convinced that the risk of exhaustion isn't as bad as I thought. Still scared though!
 
No Bloodslayer is explicitly riskier in the short term than Saint. Unsurprisingly having no upgrades while in the most dangerous part of the temple with a 15% penalty to our main attack and escape method is more dangerous than having large stat buffs and taking exhausted.
By short term, we mean a few hours. With our Rank fully in effect rather than only 25% with Exhaustion of Saint
 
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By short term, we mean a few hours. With our Rank fully in effect rather than only 25% with Exhaustion of Saint
Those few hours are the most critical though since they're when we're in the middle temple and have to worry about inner residents attacking us!

Man if quickening wins because the people who forced Form of Rage through write another storm of omakes I'm going to become a hurricane of salt!
 
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We've never been to the inner temple. This was the middle temple, apparently all these builds will get stomped if they try and immediately go to the inner.
Misspelling. I meant the Outer temple,as stated by Hunger, gives minimal benefits. I don't people are Willing to go to the encampment when exhausted, so, there is little to do outside the temple.
 
We've never been to the inner temple. This was the middle temple, apparently all these builds will get stomped if they try and immediately go to the inner.
Doesn't that mean we should go for the build that takes advantage of +progression and opens further such options so we can actually get enough power to overcome this place soon? That example rihaku gave are fucking great. An buffed echo of Forebear sounds exactly what we need to increase our growth.
 
Misspelling. I meant the Outer temple,as stated by Hunger, gives minimal benefits. I don't people are Willing to go to the encampment when exhausted, so, there is little to do outside the temple.
Saint only has to deal with exhuasted totally for 1 day, on the second form of rage becomes active again and on the third we're fine. Bloodslayer has to deal with -15% to everything it just upgraded for two weeks!


Doesn't that mean we should go for the build that takes advantage of +progression and opens further such options so we can actually get enough power to overcome this place soon? That example rihaku gave are fucking great. An buffed echo of Forebear sounds exactly what we need to increase our growth.
Given it's full of people who use soul evocations maybe we should just take nothing but Gisena buffs!
 
Reaction. Written while the update Meditations on the Sword was in contention. Word Count once I libreoffice. (Edit: 772 Words)
Fending Off


With the onset of a new morning, they set out once more. Hunger set a fierce pace through the grassy plains of the Outer Temple in an effort to reach the Middle.


"You're energetic today!" Gisena commented, walking by his side. They cut through divisions of Knights and stone monsters, pushing directly forwards with implacable speed. "Why not stop to smell the roses? Maybe hunt down some of the stragglers?"
That's some interesting speed juxtaposition here. How fast is Gisena going relative to Lord Hunger but she must be going incredibly fast right now to keep up with his fierce pace at a walking speed. Has Gisena unlocked some kind of transcendent speed reserve or something?

He shook his head. "They're too weak now. It would take me thousands of kills to receive any noticeable benefit."
Meaning we need to do something to keep up Lord Hunger's supply of worthy prey, like healing Verschlengorge to rank 5 for example. Or more middle/inner temple hunting.

"Aw, is it all about the power? I thought you liked killing monsters."


"I don't mind it. But every moment wasted, the Imprisoned Ring suffers further. I've resolved to do it, so I'd like to finish as soon as possible."
There's a legitimate chance you'll be exhausted soon so it won't be as fast as you'd like unfortunately. That doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy the rest time anyways though.


"And yet you told Letrizia otherwise. What happened to taking our time?"


"That was only so she wouldn't worry."


"So you admit we're doing something she would worry about?"


"...Ahem. I won't tell if you won't."
I can almost hear the tilde in Lord Hunger's voice.

"Well, you did give me this wonderful blood enhancement. I guess we'll call it even!"


"Perform like you did against the Magus and I'll consider it."


She laughed. "Am I not always the shining apex of performance? Or the crushing void of it, if you prefer that type of Nullity."
We're the Apex, we took a build for it and everything.

The Middle Temple, as it turned out, was cleanly delineated by a towering range of mountains, tempest-laden spines of snow-capped stone that ringed the entire region. Knights and stranger monsters patrolled the few viable passes, but obstacles of this level were only a middling concern for Hunger now, and they made their way through with efficient speed, hampered more by the narrowly winding paths than any serious opposition.
I'm getting vibes of the Misty Mountains from Lord of the Rings right now.

"You got this ability just in time!" Gisena commented, cheeks flushed with warming blood, her breath frosting before her. She rubbed her hands together, maintaining circulation. "Traversing this terrain un-boosted in a dress wouldn't have been much fun."
What about a Findross infused dress? Would that be any better?

"Some shining apex you are," he replied. "Didn't you already possess superhuman fortitude?"


"Sure, but that doesn't mean it's enjoyable to rely on." She stuck her tongue out at him. "Hey, we can go faster if you carry me, right? Let's do that. It'll be warmer too."


"If you insist."
You were just walking fast enough to keep up with Lord Hunger at a fierce pace and now you want to be a backpack sorceress? What's up with that?

They arrived at the Middle Temple in such a state, the howling crags giving way to a lush valley of green, fields irrigated by the crystal-clean mountain streams. Unlike the Outer Temple, this land was clearly settled; well-crafted hamlets with colorful gardens dotted the valley, yeoman plowing crops in donkey-driven carts while their children frolicked carelessly along the dirt-packed roads.


"A far cry from the murderous outer regions," Gisena said, looking over his shoulder. "These people..."


"Yes," he replied. "And yet all this is built on the torment of the Ring. We won't hurt anyone who doesn't try to stop us. But I will free it from its unending torture. That isn't negotiable."


"Hey." Gisena squeezed him gently. "You don't need to justify yourself to me. This makes you a bit uncomfortable, right? You're used to fighting on behalf of the people. But wherever you decide to lead, I'll be by your side. Always."
That's simulataneously touching and disturbing Gisena. I'm getting really uncomfortable echoes of Feanor's oath about the Silmarils right now. Let's hope we can find an alternative that doesn't involve torturing the ring that preserves the civilians standard of living also.

"I appreciate that. But..."


"Why?" She laughed. "Don't ask me to explain it. Just a feeling, I suppose. How would you ever manage without me?"
By awakening our Soul Evocation and finding an apprentice to turn into a physical combat monster, I'd imagine.

"A feeling, huh."


"Hmm? A genius isn't allowed to have an intuitive feeling? Besides, it's a pretty good deal for me! I've already gotten one free power-up out of it..."


"How self-interested of you."


"When a genius does it, it's called enlightened self-interest!
No. No. That sounded dangerously close to objectivism, do not go objectivist on me Gisena.

Speaking of which, I wonder if they sell dresses around here? We'd need a source of findross to make it as durable as this one, but maybe you can use my blood as a dye..."
That sounds metal. Blood based dyes. Then we soupe up the blood even further with the ring.

"Well. They'll need some means of making ends meet once we take out the basis of their civilization."


"Awfully confident, aren't you? Good, because we've got incoming from the middle distance. Looks like they're using a similar category of magic as the magus we killed."


That could mean anything. He sprinted forward into the town, hoping that would deter them. If not, he would move past the small hamlet-square and into the wide fields on the far side before engaging. He hoped they would hold some concern for collateral damage and do the same.
At least they're both trying to be decent people about it.

Townsfolk gawked as he passed, a barely-visible blur of motion. Arrows of gold and crystallized light feathered his wake, the incoming fire of whatever patrol they'd attracted. Some missed only by millimeters. A few struck true, but sprang easily off the Evening Sky, depleting its powers only slightly.


He wove into the tall stalks of the crop fields, but the trail of arrows followed him doggedly.
Soul Evocation based homing arrows. Funky.

Gisena, positioned safely under his cloak and swathed in its swirling embrace, fired back with vigorous bolts and scything waves of Nullity, extinguishing the arrows's magic before they struck. Rendered wholly mundane, they had no hope at all of penetrating his cloak, nor even of wearing it down through attrition.


"The archer's moving closer. Two more units circling around," she whispered in his ear, pressed nearly flat against his back as they raced through the crops and into the clearing beyond.


There was a sudden splitting, a schism in space-time around them, but Gisena whipped about and dispelled it before it could finish forming, nudging him with her left shin as she moved. He turned to the right, blindly firing blade-winds, and caught the materializing form of an enemy patrolwoman. She was heavily armored, wearing a scale coat of emerald with an open-faced helm of the same color, and riding atop what appeared to be a fledging drake. Instinctively he flared his ring, suppressing her blood and enhancing his own. She turned pale, expression confused as his first blade-winds landed.
Some Wits will help with not having to blindfire if Quickening/Bloodslayer somehow wins.


His first cuts struck her armor and damaged it, but failed to pierce through.
Good thing there's an incredibly high if not certain probability of us getting Thousand Cuts now.

His follow-up swiftly decapitated her mount, and as she tumbled he rushed forward, plunging his blade into her sternum with eviscerating force. Before she had time to react, he struck again, ending her life as her compatriots finally arrived upon the scene.


"BASTARD!" A second rider roared, charging heedlessly at him, drake snapping wildly. Hunger stepped to the side with a flourish of his cloak, entangling them in the pitiless weave of the Evening Sky.
I'm getting Metaknight vibes off Lord Hunger right now, with the teleporting cloak move and the Galaxia darkness final smash.

As they flailed, he stabbed the man in the back. A blade-projection bisected the warrior neatly, his death-screams muffled by the thick mantle of evening, now become his funereal shroud.
Mostly the Galaxia darkness final smash though.

"Hmph." Gisena said airily, "Guess their mounts weren't quite up to mine!" She patted his shoulder, bright with cheer.


He shook his head. Perhaps she was trying to distract him from the unpleasantness of the situation, forced to slaughter citizens who were only protecting their home. But he'd made his choice. He could not abide the torture of the Ring, which meant he had to abide the death of its jailers. He would regret the necessity nonetheless.
You don't regret it too much though given that Guilt lost.

Only the bowman remained, but refused to show himself, arrows darting in from all directions. Hunger deflected most, and his cloak caught many others, but one embedded itself in his thigh, bringing livid pain and paralyzing force. He staggered, flicking his blade once to cut out that chunk of his flesh. The paralysis swiftly abated, but a second arrow found its way into his chest - where the lower half of his left lung would have been, had his been intact.
Ouch. Evidently we need more power and it's a good thing we're getting some.

"He used his comrades' distraction to set up some kind of field," Gisena reported. "Control of space-time, along with other effects. I'm countering most of it but it's growing in strength."
That's a good soul evocation whatever it is.

That explained the arrows from all directions, and their preternatural fire rate. It also made the archer himself nearly impossible to pin down... Hunger's eyes traced the horizon, finding nothing. Another arrow, this time to the right knee, and a second one grazing his wrist. The artery was cut cleanly, but no blood sprayed forth; his Ring made certain of that. Impossible angles of fire, shifting constantly. He forced down the pain and thought.
All the lights in the sky my be my enemy...

The Ring. He could sense the blood of those he focused on within sight. Could it also be used to locate a foe who evaded sight? As more arrows struck him, he dropped low to the ground, shielding Gisena's body with his own. Focusing intently, he could sense twelve more sources of blood in the area besides the Sorceress. They were spatially transposed: each was the archer's original body, but it occupied multiple points in space at the same time, presumably using further spatial magic to account for differences in firing angle. One dozen blood sources became fifteen, fifteen became eighteen. This would swiftly become unmanageable.
This is apparently a recurring theme of the dungeon/false moon, given that the Dreadbeast can be in multiple places too.

"I'm going to go ghost," he whispered, feigning death. More arrows came nonetheless, though the Evening Sky covered them completely. Still, it could not hold forever.
Looks like we aren't striking them all down after all. Oh well. Aizen stunts can come later.

"So eager to die," Gisena teased, but nodded in affirmation. "Go. Good luck. I promise I won't dispel you!"


He slew his physical form and sprang out, cloak a tattered wreath around him, charging to the closest blood signature. More arrows flew at him, targeting his limbs and sides. He dodged what few he could, deflected certain others and simply withstood the rest, the brilliant blaze of pain only sharpening his focus. Exerting himself recklessly, he went fully incorporeal, phasing through the final round of arrows to arrive with shocking speed. At last the archer came into view, a man dressed rakishly in hunting leathers holding a bow of golden weave. He pounced.


"What-" The man managed before Hunger sliced off his knee, blood fountaining upwards at a furious rate. The archer gestured hastily, all but fumbling his bow, and disappeared, canceling this spatial instance. But the damage was already done.
The sheer flabbergastedness of your adversary apparently killing themselves to rise as a ghost to kill you will do that to a lot of people, don't worry archerdude, there's no shame in that.

Ripping the arrowheads free of his barely-coherent wraith form, Hunger rushed towards the next source of that blood signature, finding the man barely recovered, unsteadily nocking an arrow. This time his blade-winds failed to land, warping around the archer to graze instead of murder, their buzzsaw edges first leaving sandblasted streaks of blood against the man's flesh, then failing to connect at all. But the Forebear's Blade was not his only weapon. This close to the Ring of Blood and already bleeding heavily, his enemy would be exsanguinated within the second. Hypovolemic shock would occur much faster. The jewel of his Ring lit up hungrily, almost purring with delight.
*Shingggg* *Ominous Light Sound effects/audible sharpness*

"Wait," the man said, holding up one arm desperately. Wary of being ambushed as with the craven knights, Hunger kicked the archer over and severed the tendons in his arms and remaining leg before placing his Blade against the man's cranium. Only then did he gesture once, stemming the torrent of blood.
Heartlessness and proper paranoia in action.

"Talk." He said.


"You... look! I know the Call of the Temple is strong. But there's no need for us to fight. We- we're entirely willing to pay you off, intruders as strong as you are. Maybe even hire you to defend us for a time. We can be very generous. And, and we can give you a sigil that'll immunize you to the Call. Your life won't be dominated by it any more. You'll be free! Free to leave, to come and go as you please! Isn't that better than being tricked - coerced - into obeying the Call?"
That's interesting. They think the ring is tricking people to get them to come here?

"Tell me about the defenses in the Inner Temple."


"I don't know. You should worry about us in the Middle first! When I fail to respond to a check-in, more will come searching for me. Far stronger than I. Stronger than you! But we don't need to fight!"
If a miracle happens, maybe we won't. Otherwise we'll just have to get strong enough to deal with the stronger people they send to search for you.

"Do you have a sigil on you right now?"


"Of course!"


"Give it to me."


"My left pants pocket, lower side."


He extracted the sigil, a thin metal thing with a blue rune on its face. It buzzed threateningly at him, resisting the influence of his ring. He threw it away.
Some kind of trap maybe?

"I have the power to tell when an enemy has given up. You haven't." Hunger himself wasn't in much better condition, his ghostly outline barely visible. He marshaled his energies, preparing to finish it.


"I- I can still use Soul Evocations, it's true. But I swear! I swear not to oppose you in any form or way of action! I swear it on my soul, okay?! Just let me live!"


The ring flared again, an intermittent pattern as if glowering, and finally Hunger felt the power of triumph flowing in. Gisena walked over to them, carrying his flesh body. Bereft of cloak, ring and blade, it looked only sullen.
*Prey Defeated?*

"Maybe you want to get back inside? You're looking a bit pale!"


"Very funny. We're withdrawing. Can't fight further in this state."
Let's hope we have enough new tricks by the time we make another incursion.

They began to walk away.


"It's a shame you can't carry me in this state..." Gisena mused.


"As I said!" The archer hollered, "There's no need to fight! Join us! We pay well, far better than you'll find outside!"
You're unlucky enough to run into an idealist, one of the Ring's kin.

He turned back to the man. "You never saw the ones that defeated you. You don't know any details of their magics or abilities."


"O-of course!"


"Okay. Let's go."


"Good work today! This time, I'm carrying your unconscious body. Fair's fair, after all!"


"You can get rid of that thing. Actually, give it here, I'll destroy it. Best not leave them anything to study."
Smart.

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Last time the winner was [X] Resident Outriders and [X] Level Gisena.


Choose the nature of the major complication Hunger received:


[ ] Exhausted - While two day's rest will restore him fully, he'll be very vulnerable in the interim, and unable to use the Form of Rage for the first of those days.


[ ] Lingering Paralysis - 15% penalty to physical actions in both forms, reduced to 5% in Form of Rage. Lasts two weeks.


[ ] Guilt - Perhaps he is not as resolved as he pretends. Doubles Chill of the Grave penalty to 10%. Hunger will discard corporeal form more easily. Lasts until the Temple is resolved.
Lingering Paralysis with Quickening isn't that bad. Exhaustion means we should probably soupe up our companions though by boosting Gisena and maybe Verschlengorge.

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Victory! You have 4 picks and slightly under 11 Arete. This time only, you may trade 1 pick for 2 Arete, allowing you to spend up to 14 Arete if you only expend 3 picks.


[ ] Forebear's Blade - Echo of the Forebear


Cloud-shadow of the Forebear's might.


Legendary strength and speed, and the resilience to exert them. Can be taken multiple times. [+Might, +Agility]


[ ] Forebear's Blade - Undying Vanguard - 5 Arete (0 picks).


Where tread the Forebear, his men would not fall, for the shadow of his presence could turn even death aside. And for his most stalwart servants, the reach of his shadow spanned continents and worlds.


Choose up to 5 companions whose true Astral Ranks do not exceed your own. They receive bonus Protection, Constitution and regeneration depending on both your relative power levels and their level of loyalty to you. A highly loyal companion would be about as difficult to kill as you yourself are, including the effects of your Artifacts.
We're pursuing other venues to boost our companions now, Undying Vanguard. Poor Undying Vanguard.

[ ] Forebear's Blade - A Thousand Cuts - 7 Arete (0 picks)


In the Forebear's grip could even a common knife blaze with fell power. All melee attacks made with the Forebear's Blade now apply cursed wounds. Septuples the power and speed of the Fell-Handed Stroke and allows it to be used with blade projections. Such horrific offensive power allows one to challenge foes vastly stronger.
We are finally getting this, making this happen, etc. With Fall of Night if it comes up again we'd finally have the complete Murderer's Panopoly if I remember correctly.

[ ] Forebear's Blade - Ruinous Valor (3 picks)


Where he advanced, so did the tide of entire wars, the shock of his blade like a hurled epicenter, the trail of his passage but wasteland and rubble.


[+++++Strength]

Power of Ruin now scales upwards depending on your Strength.


Choose:

Einhander - You may not regrow or replace your left arm by any means. Substantially reduces the cost and increases the range of special attacks made with the Forebear's Blade. This Advancement grants Might instead of Strength (+Might = +Str, +Con).

Zweihander - Regrow your left arm. Your barehanded strikes now carry the full destructive power of the Forebear's Blade.


If Einhander is taken, unlocks One Arm Fury.

If Zweihander is taken, unlocks Martial Stances: Forebear's Blade


[ ] Magic-Defeating Stance - 7 Arete (0 picks) - Req. Zweihander. 5x power of Ruin against magical defenses and high-level magic resistance.


[ ] Hero-Defeating Stance - 7 Arete (0 picks) - Req. Zweihander. +.2 Rank, ++Agi, ++Might, halve enemy Rank bonuses if their Rank is higher, halve penalties for being outnumbered.
In hindsight not an eyesore I guess. At least for this vote.

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[ ] Evening Sky - Opalescence - The soft light of evening before which all attacks falter.


Improves defensive parameters. [+Protection]


[ ] Evening Sky - Iridescence - 2 Arete


The sharp light of the stars before which all malice is lessened.


+Protection, +Charisma. Expands the range of effects subject to the Evening Sky, allowing it to passively weaken almost all forms of magic. Even Nullity itself can be once withstood before the Sky recedes.

Requires Opalescence.
Starblade Saint gives us a good chunk of the Iridescence benefits, trading the protection and broader spectrum protection for absolute nullity immunity though. Not sure why the Opalesence got replaced with an Echo of the Forebear though to be honest, though I'm sure I'll be finding out soon enough.


[ ] Evening Sky - Pearlescence - 7 Arete


Woe unto they who would stand against the bearer of Evening, for all the stars in heaven are their enemies, and the moon above as well.


That a frog in a well should leap at the moon, means only that they will never reach it.


+++Protection, and the protection granted by the Evening Sky now automatically scales to its wearer's power; effectively, the wearer is granted an additional Experience modifier whose output is automatically applied to the Evening Sky.

Requires Iridescence.
Saves us picks in the long term but unfortunately not today


[ ] Evening Sky - Evening Gown - 7 Arete (2 picks)


The dress of night whose pearl is the moon and whose jewels are the stars.


Provides Gisena with a dress the same material as the Evening Sky, and infuses that material with a rich density of findross and the power of Nullity, dramatically enhancing its capabilities and rendering it immune to dispellation from that source. With the assistance of the Evening Sky, Gisena initiates a Sorcerous breakthrough.


Findross interweave enhances Hunger's attributes in a manner not unlike Sorcery so long as the Evening Sky is not discorporated. Choose two: +Agility, +Might, +Wits, +Charisma, and gain a Pseudo-Grace. You may have to vote on the nature of the Pseudo-Grace. By default it grants ++++Agility, +++Strength, 30% increased attack speed in melee.


Discounts [Total Eclipse] by 2 Arete.


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Funkadelic. Starts progress on a utility panic button, soupes up Gisena, and gives us Fell Handed Stroke at nine times the speed. We also get closer to being a memetic hazard.

[ ] The Ring of Power - Dominion - 2 Arete


A ring of power does not exert influence casually. It has its own will, its own preferences, and if that will should be inseparable from its owner's, its sway thereby shall be greater for it.


Select a domain of influence. While acting within its domain, [Ring of Power] effects are substantially less taxing and more potent; the effects of this can be abstracted as follows: treat the owner's Rank as if it somewhat* higher for related actions. You may select this advancement multiple times, choosing a different domain each time. If multiple domains apply, their bonuses do not compound.


*+0.5 if Low, +.25 if Mid, +.1 if High.


The available domains for Hunger are: War, Passion

Not today I guess.

[ ] The Ring of Power - Preeminence - 7 Arete


It is no small thing, to master a ring of power; and for those few who have braved that height, at its peak they shall only glimpse the true jewel which lies even further beyond.


Choose a domain you have already purchased. While acting within its purview, double its effective Rank modifier and gain +All Stats. You may select this advancement multiple times, choosing a different domain each time.


The available domains for Hunger's Preeminence are: War, Passion

For all the risks, neutralizing the training time objection to more magic systems does still seem worthwhile.

[ ] The Ring of Power - Quickening - 7 Arete (3 picks)


The power of Progression made manifest in blood.


While in any form with corporeal blood, gain +++++++Agility, +++++++Might, ++++Wits, and triple the rate of passive healing performed by the Ring of Blood. Halve wound penalties in any such forms. Currently, this applies only to Hunger's first form.


Ensures that [Final Form] will possess corporeal blood. This may not necessarily be an advantage.

I don't actually care whether or not this does anything to Final Form, because it's a legitimate question whether or not we will take Final Form due to inability to predict our build and circumstances when it shows up.
 
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Yes, people with good enough utility to be relevant for us are going to be at the peak of the pile, and expect rewards and treatment commensurate with their station

I expect there's a dossier on every adventurer that has survived an incursion into the middle layer, as there's not so many of them that's a tall order. We have no idea what strategic responses the inners could bring to bear if they were roused to do so. No need to present them info that might tip them in favor of intervention.
I mean, we can just give them? We haven't been getting any loot, or really anything other than exp here, and it's not like other people seem to get that. Other than Ber, really. The only reason we've seen to even try this is the Call of the Moon, and we are the best chance they have of that in a long time. If they want stuff we aren't making use of anyway that's fine by me. Even money we can offer with the Pearl that's just sitting there; plus the information we can give.

Progression-like powers aren't anything new given Ber's existence. Our advantage is basically the scale of it. Who knows how seriously they'd take it given its second hand information.
They sent out a weakling and he was killed, I don't expect the next one they send to be in the same tier as the one they just saw isn't strong enough to do the job.
Was the Magus sent there intentionally or not? Or as a way to get rid of him or not? Can't be all at the same time. If they send people to investigate, that can give helpful information too. If they try to get rid of another weakling, that's when we can spring the trap.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DkArthas on Jun 14, 2020 at 7:49 PM, finished with 459 posts and 64 votes.
 
Those few hours are the most critical though since they're when we're in the middle temple and have to worry about inner residents attacking us!
Then what's the point of taking Exhaustion? What we gain from the Saint at most brings us back to the before the Exhaustion levels and until 2 days pass you are stuck waiting it to pass. You could even get into a fight in the second day where you may have to use Form of Rage and get stuck with another debuff. With Bloodslayer you only worry about the first few hours with the safety of Form of Rage.

[ ] Exhausted - While two day's rest will restore him fully, he'll be very vulnerable in the interim, and unable to use the Form of Rage for the first of those days.

Bloodslayer has to deal with -15% to everything it just upgraded for two weeks!
Which we can deal with or even remove it! We already have a buff that makes us only like, 95% of our peak capacity rather than %85


Well, it comes to selling my future votes. I will vote for your preferred option in the future if anyone of you switches to the Bloodslayer. You will gain one mark where you can use it to make me vote for your preferred vote.
 
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