The Game of Crusading Thrones, Self-Insert Edition (GoT CK2)
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Now that is what I'm talking about! All the successes we could have hoped for and more! And I'm glad that the Faith is being upfront about their problems and not so snobby as to be unable to say, "please help us."
[X] Write-in. The septa may travel, with one Warrior's Son, one Green Man, one Horned Man, and a maester/acolyte.
The reasons for this composition are many:
[X] Write-in. The septa may travel, with one Warrior's Son, one Green Man, one Horned Man, and a maester/acolyte.
The reasons for this composition are many:
- the septa will be well-protected
- there will be less or no concerns from our devout about a group of FM roaming our land
- the Green and Horned Men will open doors that would be otherwise closed to the Faith
- it will make the septas/septons and maesters more familiar and trusted sights
- and the Green Man & maester can try to deduce what it is she's doing, if it's magical or mundane, and if it can be replicated
- everyone knows five is the ideal number for an adventuring party
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[X] Write-in. The septa may travel, with one Warrior's Son, one Green Man, one Horned Man, and a maester/acolyte.
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[X] Write-in. The septa may travel, with one Warrior's Son, one Green Man, one Horned Man, and a maester/acolyte.
I love it. It sounds like the beginning of a joke.
I love it. It sounds like the beginning of a joke.
A lot of things to say about this turn. But mostly... those rolls!
Both these orders seem to have worked out perfectly. With the Braavos success, that means the Manderly quest has been achieved, which is another 1d4 influence.
Was hoping we might get an Edwyle Interlude, but I'm happy with what we got.
Those rolls for the Scouts... amazing.
Glad we took the double down here, that was a big pay off. @notbirdofprey That puts us at 5 + 1d4 influence, right? I'm sort of wondering if we have been getting all the Influence from the other quests we succeeded in. Lets, see, it was the Bureaucrats, Merchants, Green Men, Western Lords. As I remember they had things like 1d2-1 and 1d4-1, so I suppose we just had crappy rolls for all of them but...
A saint of the Seven huh? I'm leaning towards:
[] Permit it with supervision.
Also interesting to hear what is happening at the Starry Sept. I think we should offer our help here, see if that can help Septon Willem advance to the Most Devout (fulfilling the new quest of the Manderlys), and gain a friendly Starry Sept.
Great rolls. @notbirdofprey Did you not apply the +15 to stewardship rolls here? I guess that's actually good if we can use them elsewhere, but I thought these actions used the bonus.
Huh... business like. So... is it safe to pass this one on to the Targs? And 8 ancient bloodlines: Starks, Greenhands, Arryns, Lannisters, Dundarrions, Targaryons, Martells, and... Justman?
We ought to have a talk with our maester at some point, otherwise all the uplifting we do could become an issue.
Hmm... might be some potential allies among them if the Harlaws and Farwynds aren't as gungho for the Drowned God.
Hmmm... a former warg on his second life?
Interesting. Unknown benefits for Edwyle?
Both these orders seem to have worked out perfectly. With the Braavos success, that means the Manderly quest has been achieved, which is another 1d4 influence.
Was hoping we might get an Edwyle Interlude, but I'm happy with what we got.
Those rolls for the Scouts... amazing.
Glad we took the double down here, that was a big pay off. @notbirdofprey That puts us at 5 + 1d4 influence, right? I'm sort of wondering if we have been getting all the Influence from the other quests we succeeded in. Lets, see, it was the Bureaucrats, Merchants, Green Men, Western Lords. As I remember they had things like 1d2-1 and 1d4-1, so I suppose we just had crappy rolls for all of them but...
A saint of the Seven huh? I'm leaning towards:
[] Permit it with supervision.
Also interesting to hear what is happening at the Starry Sept. I think we should offer our help here, see if that can help Septon Willem advance to the Most Devout (fulfilling the new quest of the Manderlys), and gain a friendly Starry Sept.
Great rolls. @notbirdofprey Did you not apply the +15 to stewardship rolls here? I guess that's actually good if we can use them elsewhere, but I thought these actions used the bonus.
Huh... business like. So... is it safe to pass this one on to the Targs? And 8 ancient bloodlines: Starks, Greenhands, Arryns, Lannisters, Dundarrions, Targaryons, Martells, and... Justman?
We ought to have a talk with our maester at some point, otherwise all the uplifting we do could become an issue.
Hmm... might be some potential allies among them if the Harlaws and Farwynds aren't as gungho for the Drowned God.
Hmmm... a former warg on his second life?
Interesting. Unknown benefits for Edwyle?
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- United States
I think next turn we should use our personal actions to talk to Jeyne and Brynden. This way we can get to know Byrnden more and also get the quest for Jeyne.
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- ?????????
This turn went amazingly. No loss of opinion with the Dustins, a completion of the Manderly faction question, a new town(soon) and two crits on two actions. That went great. Now we wait for the Interludes.
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- ?????????
So how does the food system go again? What are the rankings?
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- Australia
[X] Permit it with supervision.
-[X] At least one of the Horned Men to ride with the party
Reasoning here is that hopefully this will lead to some respect developing between the Warrior Sons and the Horned Men, while keeping the Warrior Sons out of any mischief
I'd rather not make it that difficult. We don't have many Green Men, and even fewer maesters/acolytes. In fact the maester/acolyte shortage in the North is enough to make this largely unworkable.
I think we have to drop that requirement at least. Maybe once we have more acolytes we can take an action to send one along with her to see if they can learn more about it. (Or if we get a maester with a Valyrian Steel link).
Pentos, Myr, Tyrosh, Lys, and Volantis are all slavers. Not saying we shouldn't reach out to them, but a complication.
Lorath is the poorest of the Free Cites. Mainly serving as a trade port between the west and Ibbon. Whale bone, seal skins, salt cod. Items we already have available from Skagos.
They also have a powerful textile base producing velvet. So maybe once we have textile mills, it may be useful to try and entice some of their craftsmen to Winterfell.
On the other hand they are a northern climate, so they might have unknown plants and seeds that will flourish in the North.
Further along the Northern coast is Ibbon, which again has mostly items we already have: whale bone, seal skins, salt cod, as well as gold, tin, etc. But again it might be a source of northern aclimated plants.
There is also Saath and Morosh along the norther coast. Saath is the last remnant of the Kingdom of Sarnor. While a historical footnote, it might provide us with a cover story for introducing various things like the Periodic Table of Elements, basic chemistry, calculus, the germ theory, and basic biology. We could create books that purport to be from that ancient kingdom (or other ancient kingdoms), or better yet as a more modern summary of a summary of those records from those kingdoms. Thereby explaining the source of some of these ideas.
Then we print copies and send them to the Citadel as a gift. Make them like us.
Well, I think it will take us a turn to establish contact anyways, so I don't think we can rush it before the Spy Network is finished.
-[X] At least one of the Horned Men to ride with the party
Reasoning here is that hopefully this will lead to some respect developing between the Warrior Sons and the Horned Men, while keeping the Warrior Sons out of any mischief
I'd rather not make it that difficult. We don't have many Green Men, and even fewer maesters/acolytes. In fact the maester/acolyte shortage in the North is enough to make this largely unworkable.
I think we have to drop that requirement at least. Maybe once we have more acolytes we can take an action to send one along with her to see if they can learn more about it. (Or if we get a maester with a Valyrian Steel link).
Pentos, Myr, Tyrosh, Lys, and Volantis are all slavers. Not saying we shouldn't reach out to them, but a complication.
Lorath is the poorest of the Free Cites. Mainly serving as a trade port between the west and Ibbon. Whale bone, seal skins, salt cod. Items we already have available from Skagos.
They also have a powerful textile base producing velvet. So maybe once we have textile mills, it may be useful to try and entice some of their craftsmen to Winterfell.
On the other hand they are a northern climate, so they might have unknown plants and seeds that will flourish in the North.
Further along the Northern coast is Ibbon, which again has mostly items we already have: whale bone, seal skins, salt cod, as well as gold, tin, etc. But again it might be a source of northern aclimated plants.
There is also Saath and Morosh along the norther coast. Saath is the last remnant of the Kingdom of Sarnor. While a historical footnote, it might provide us with a cover story for introducing various things like the Periodic Table of Elements, basic chemistry, calculus, the germ theory, and basic biology. We could create books that purport to be from that ancient kingdom (or other ancient kingdoms), or better yet as a more modern summary of a summary of those records from those kingdoms. Thereby explaining the source of some of these ideas.
Then we print copies and send them to the Citadel as a gift. Make them like us.
Well, I think it will take us a turn to establish contact anyways, so I don't think we can rush it before the Spy Network is finished.
i know that they are slaver cities but there is nothing we can do about it, so we can either accept and make some gold or not accept and not make any gold
Even so there is still gold to be made by sell them things they dont have
Also i think we should make a new port city on the East side of the north, maybe on Skagos
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Lorath might have some interesting foodstuffs that grow there. We should talk with them just to see if they do.
Early Thoughts on next turn:
[] Gifted Warriors: There are nearly a thousand wargs in Wintertown, and more scattered about your lands. There are a few hundred men and women blessed with incredible strength, albeit not to the level of the Mormont berserkers. There are people who can heal with a touch, people who can steal the courage of their foes with a song…the blessings of the Old Gods are many and mighty. Brandon intends to organize some of the Gifted into a force to be reckoned with upon the battlefield, or possibly in the more strategic sense. He has filled papers with possible uses for wargs alone – everything from delivering messages to using armored bulls as living battering rams. Time: 3 seasons. Cost: 600 gold, upkeep. DC: 55. Reward: Some sort of Gifted force attached to Winterfell guard. Type will be determined by dice rolls.
[] Guard Training: Brandon has replaced all the dead or severely wounded guardsmen by now, or at least selected men who will serve as adequate replacements after their training is done. With some of his spare time, he could train other men to a similar standard for other houses. And naturally, he will encourage those men to remember their loyalties to Winterfell should the unthinkable happen…Time: 2 seasons. Cost: 100 gold. DC: 45. Reward: Other houses gain small number of men trained and equipped equivalent to Winterfell guard, vassal loyalty increased.
One of the reasons not to do both 1 turn actions this turn was because it limits our actions next turn.
Probably these, since we want to wait on several until our target is revealed. And I want to order the Barrow Houses to fortify the rivers once they finish the shipyards. I think we probably want to save money so we can build two more fleets...
[] Speak to Kings (Reach): There are other kings to the south of you. Perhaps you should open up talks with one of them. Though all of them are Andals and ironborn, you doubt any of them would outright refuse you…Time: 1 season. Cost: 50 gold. DC: 50. Reward: Positive diplomatic contact.
[] Speak with Vassals (Northern Lords): Most of your direct vassals are loyal and trustworthy, but it's good to keep an eye on them all the same. And if any of them have trouble, you might be able to help. Time: 1 season. Cost: 50 gold. DC: 30. Reward: Vassal relations boosted, aware of problems
Make contact with the Reach, and check in on the Northern Lords to see if any of them have food issues developing.
Probably use our free action on Stewardship:
[] Setting Standards: You have designed your standard weight and measure system and found semi-logical reasons for them. Now comes the difficult part: getting others to use them. While everyone can see the benefit, deciding who needs to change tends to be troublesome. Fortunately, you are the king and can simply order people to use your system, although that's only really practical in Wintertown thanks to the Snowcloaks and your civil service being so efficient. Arrange a meeting with the not-quite guildmasters and the head of the smith's guild, give your orders to the King's Men in Wintertown who run the bureaucracy, and have the standard system spread across Wintertown and some of the immediate neighborhood. Time: 2 seasons. Cost: 300 gold. DC: 55. Reward: Standard weights and measures system used in Wintertown and surrounding areas. Note: may cause temporary issues with trade. (+15)
Has the highest DC, so lets get the +15 bonus on this action.
[] Hire Acolytes: The Citadel is the ordinary source kings turn to when there are more tasks that require literacy than there are literate people in the kingdom. You are reasonably certain you are not an ordinary king, and you remember that the Citadel is not always trustworthy, but there is no sense in not taking advantage of such a resource. Ask for the assistance of a few more acolytes and use them to assist your civil service while the school at Winterfell keeps teaching people. Time: 1 season. Cost: 500 gold, Citadel attention. DC: 35. Reward: Citadel attention, support for civil service.
We need this if we are going to expand the schools and increase the literacy in our realm. We could potentially put it off one more turn until we actually take Expand Schools.
[] Blood of the Bear: House Mormont were never kings, and they have been conquered many times. Umber blood runs in their veins, as does the salty blood of Ironborn. Nevertheless, they have their own gift. Some could call bears to their side, some could become them. Have Frost try and awaken this in Lyanna Mormont. Time: 1 season. Cost: 150 gold. DC: 55. Reward: The Gift of the Bear-kin reawakens in Lyanna Mormont.
[] Rites of the Wild: The First Men and the Children of the Forest learned much from each other once the Pact was sworn, but much has been forgotten. Frost and his brethren will begin to seek the rites of the wood and waters and attempt to recreate them. Time: 4 seasons. Cost: 50 gold. DC: 75. Reward: New magic unlocked
We'll probably have new Piety options next turn, but if not, these are the two I'd consider. Also, we can give an Issue Command for the Green Men to awaken the might of the Umbers to save an action here.
[] The God's Eyes: While you can open the God's Eyes more or less at will now, it can be difficult to keep them open, especially in places full of magic like Winterfell. You also suspect you are missing a great deal of nuance when you look at people or more complicated items like your crown, which just looks like plain metal. Or that skin, which makes you shudder whenever you think of it. Further practice could also extend how long you can use this gift. Time: 1 season. Cost: 0. DC: 70. Reward: Greater control and skill with the God's Eyes, more information about the skin.
[] Speak to an Advisor: You want to know more about the people you work with. Time: 1 season. Cost: 0. DC: 50. Reward: Gain knowledge of an advisor, improved opinion.
Let's talk to our Maester as he's starting to wonder about our uplift ideas, and we are going to be stepping all over the Citadel with our expanded schools, so...
Also, gotta try the God's Eyes again.
Karhold would make the most sense for this.
[] Gifted Warriors: There are nearly a thousand wargs in Wintertown, and more scattered about your lands. There are a few hundred men and women blessed with incredible strength, albeit not to the level of the Mormont berserkers. There are people who can heal with a touch, people who can steal the courage of their foes with a song…the blessings of the Old Gods are many and mighty. Brandon intends to organize some of the Gifted into a force to be reckoned with upon the battlefield, or possibly in the more strategic sense. He has filled papers with possible uses for wargs alone – everything from delivering messages to using armored bulls as living battering rams. Time: 3 seasons. Cost: 600 gold, upkeep. DC: 55. Reward: Some sort of Gifted force attached to Winterfell guard. Type will be determined by dice rolls.
[] Guard Training: Brandon has replaced all the dead or severely wounded guardsmen by now, or at least selected men who will serve as adequate replacements after their training is done. With some of his spare time, he could train other men to a similar standard for other houses. And naturally, he will encourage those men to remember their loyalties to Winterfell should the unthinkable happen…Time: 2 seasons. Cost: 100 gold. DC: 45. Reward: Other houses gain small number of men trained and equipped equivalent to Winterfell guard, vassal loyalty increased.
One of the reasons not to do both 1 turn actions this turn was because it limits our actions next turn.
Probably these, since we want to wait on several until our target is revealed. And I want to order the Barrow Houses to fortify the rivers once they finish the shipyards. I think we probably want to save money so we can build two more fleets...
[] Speak to Kings (Reach): There are other kings to the south of you. Perhaps you should open up talks with one of them. Though all of them are Andals and ironborn, you doubt any of them would outright refuse you…Time: 1 season. Cost: 50 gold. DC: 50. Reward: Positive diplomatic contact.
[] Speak with Vassals (Northern Lords): Most of your direct vassals are loyal and trustworthy, but it's good to keep an eye on them all the same. And if any of them have trouble, you might be able to help. Time: 1 season. Cost: 50 gold. DC: 30. Reward: Vassal relations boosted, aware of problems
Make contact with the Reach, and check in on the Northern Lords to see if any of them have food issues developing.
Probably use our free action on Stewardship:
[] Setting Standards: You have designed your standard weight and measure system and found semi-logical reasons for them. Now comes the difficult part: getting others to use them. While everyone can see the benefit, deciding who needs to change tends to be troublesome. Fortunately, you are the king and can simply order people to use your system, although that's only really practical in Wintertown thanks to the Snowcloaks and your civil service being so efficient. Arrange a meeting with the not-quite guildmasters and the head of the smith's guild, give your orders to the King's Men in Wintertown who run the bureaucracy, and have the standard system spread across Wintertown and some of the immediate neighborhood. Time: 2 seasons. Cost: 300 gold. DC: 55. Reward: Standard weights and measures system used in Wintertown and surrounding areas. Note: may cause temporary issues with trade. (+15)
Has the highest DC, so lets get the +15 bonus on this action.
[] Hire Acolytes: The Citadel is the ordinary source kings turn to when there are more tasks that require literacy than there are literate people in the kingdom. You are reasonably certain you are not an ordinary king, and you remember that the Citadel is not always trustworthy, but there is no sense in not taking advantage of such a resource. Ask for the assistance of a few more acolytes and use them to assist your civil service while the school at Winterfell keeps teaching people. Time: 1 season. Cost: 500 gold, Citadel attention. DC: 35. Reward: Citadel attention, support for civil service.
We need this if we are going to expand the schools and increase the literacy in our realm. We could potentially put it off one more turn until we actually take Expand Schools.
[] Blood of the Bear: House Mormont were never kings, and they have been conquered many times. Umber blood runs in their veins, as does the salty blood of Ironborn. Nevertheless, they have their own gift. Some could call bears to their side, some could become them. Have Frost try and awaken this in Lyanna Mormont. Time: 1 season. Cost: 150 gold. DC: 55. Reward: The Gift of the Bear-kin reawakens in Lyanna Mormont.
[] Rites of the Wild: The First Men and the Children of the Forest learned much from each other once the Pact was sworn, but much has been forgotten. Frost and his brethren will begin to seek the rites of the wood and waters and attempt to recreate them. Time: 4 seasons. Cost: 50 gold. DC: 75. Reward: New magic unlocked
We'll probably have new Piety options next turn, but if not, these are the two I'd consider. Also, we can give an Issue Command for the Green Men to awaken the might of the Umbers to save an action here.
[] The God's Eyes: While you can open the God's Eyes more or less at will now, it can be difficult to keep them open, especially in places full of magic like Winterfell. You also suspect you are missing a great deal of nuance when you look at people or more complicated items like your crown, which just looks like plain metal. Or that skin, which makes you shudder whenever you think of it. Further practice could also extend how long you can use this gift. Time: 1 season. Cost: 0. DC: 70. Reward: Greater control and skill with the God's Eyes, more information about the skin.
[] Speak to an Advisor: You want to know more about the people you work with. Time: 1 season. Cost: 0. DC: 50. Reward: Gain knowledge of an advisor, improved opinion.
Let's talk to our Maester as he's starting to wonder about our uplift ideas, and we are going to be stepping all over the Citadel with our expanded schools, so...
Also, gotta try the God's Eyes again.
Karhold would make the most sense for this.
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- Germany
[X] Permit it with supervision.
-[X] At least one of the Horned Men to ride with the party
I think we should start building the next fleet now. We don't know how much longer the winter will last, and the attack on the Ironborn is supposed to start shortly after the beginning of spring.
-[X] At least one of the Horned Men to ride with the party
I think we should start building the next fleet now. We don't know how much longer the winter will last, and the attack on the Ironborn is supposed to start shortly after the beginning of spring.
4 seasons if I remember right.
The problem is that the Barrow House's Quest requires us to build a fleet at Barrowtown, while the shipyard in the Glover's land is still incomplete as well.
Again this is why I wanted to do the multi-turn actions early...
Oh well, maybe we can build a fleet at Bear Island and have serviced from the Glover's land?
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probably not house justman could be the greyjoys as they are decended from the legendary greyking.
Well... in the riverlands there was the Fisher Kings (possibly related to our House Fisher along the Stony Shore), and then House Mudd, who ruled from Oldstone and are now extinct, but almost certainly have surviving descendants in the Tullys and the Blackwoods.
House Justman then ruled the rivers for three centuries, descended from Blackwoods and Brackens (so a connection to the Mudds).
Not sure why it'd have to be the Greyjoys, since the Iron Isles where historically ruled by kings chosen at a Kingsmoot before the Greyirons.
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Most every house in the Iron Islands claims descent from the Grey King, except for houses like the Codds claiming descent from freed thralls and House Goodbrother descended from the Grey King's brother. We have heard that rebellious Ironborn keeps have been shattered by krakens; given what we've seen of Vickon Greyjoy, who was the leader of the historical anti-Hoare Ironborn, I think they've been murderized and turned into something akin to the black warriors in the Riverlands.
House Justman is an ancient house and the new Justman will be the son of a Blackwood and a Bracken, two houses of former first men Tridentine Kings. However, Justman is far younger as a Royal house compared to the pre-Andal Mudd and Fisher Kings of the Rivers.
Thing is, there are loads of former Royal Houses in the Riverlands older than House Justman. House Justman's parent houses of Bracken and Blackwood, the first Andal Kings that were the Vances, the Mallisters who were said to have a more prestigious bloodline than House Tully, the Dusker Kings of House Darklyn, the Tullys who while never kings are occasionally headcanoned as being descended from a branch of the Mudd Kings, etc.
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Since the Tullys are First Men dating back to the time of House Mudd and the Blackwoods, it makes sense to think they likely intermarried with the royal house Mudd in some way.
The Mallisters date to the start of House Justman, are probably Andal, but were much more prestigous during the intervening years, some times being petty kings of the rivers themselves, sometimes intermarried with House Teague (which briefly unified the riverlands).
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It's a single septa, not a host of them. We have enough Green Men to activate gifts all across the North, we can spare one to babysit one septa. And again, we only need one maester/acolyte. If her gift turns out to have some kind of scientific basis, I'd like a maester to witness and potentially be able to replicate it. And even if not, then the previously mentioned goal of ensuring that all five of the aforementioned factions are seen and no longer have the onus of the unknown still applies. And most importantly, it minimises how many FM members are let loose down to one, unlike the other vote.
Now that's not a bad idea.
...maybe not all of the books, though. We do want to maintain our edge & advantage over the other realms, after all