A Game of Crowns (Mafia)

I gotta sleep now, won't really be around till like 1 hour before Day end except maybe for short posts.

Apologies for any stress I caused as well.
 
... my gut says that the claim is legit, too. The responses to pressure just feel town.

Damn it.

@Nictis, you got any bright ideas about where to lynch to hit the RB?
 
I've been up for the past 24 hours. I'll probably be up before day ends, but just in case

[X] Est
reasons barelt more compellling than they were last time

Night
 
@interstI assume you mean to lynch est? As it is now, I think you're voting for whomever they vote.
 
[X] Nictis

Just to be clear, this isn't me voting for Nictis, but me voting for whomever they vote for.
[X] Est
reasons barelt more compellling than they were last time
Typically, piggybacking on someone else's vote is not allowed. I mean, it isn't explicitly illegal, but it has been forbidden in the past for reasons of not allowing users to hide behind other people's votes.
 
[X] Null

I forgot this. I am probably going to move onto either an Est or a Ban lynch but I haven't decided yet.
 
Typically, piggybacking on someone else's vote is not allowed. I mean, it isn't explicitly illegal, but it has been forbidden in the past for reasons of not allowing users to hide behind other people's votes.

No, people tend to frown upon it due to it removing that player's agency to an extent, but I can confirm that it is allowed within the context of this game.
 
Not really sure why Comi-Turtle and maybe others are sure I'm town, I don't feel I've been active enough for that level of proof, but... Ugh.

In all honesty with all the happenings I feel like I've completely/mostly lost track of what the hell is happening today, outside of the higher points. I've been trying to get myself to focus and reread from day start since last night, which... isn't helping my activity levels either yay, but I really have no clue how to be helpful at this point.
 
N1: Nictis or QT. QT kind of feels like an odd one here given that he was rated at neutral while others were rated at a leaning Town, but not too unusual. (Preview Edit: Disregard this, with the other Town mentions being 1K, Est, and Meso it's pretty understandable)
N2: Veterans. Picked Evenstar over Nani because Wine.

I'll admit, I was digging because I thought I could call bullshit on him healing Evenstar, because I remembered Absum suspecting Eva. Instead I see hints at being the Doctor and the sus on Evenstar being linked to Nani which goes away when Eva votes him.

So... Blegh. Could be faking, but on review it feels legit. Particularly the bit for why he suspected Nani and thinking about Strongman.

Sorry for not doing more, I've been barely able to focus today, and I might be busy later.

Day ends in sixteen hours and sixteen minutes.

Trying to get through a explaining my suspicions into words, but Nictis you are still currently voting for Absum and this post does appear to be in favor of truthful Absum... so I'm reminding you to null if that is your intention.
 
Trying to get through a explaining my suspicions into words, but Nictis you are still currently voting for Absum and this post does appear to be in favor of truthful Absum... so I'm reminding you to null if that is your intention.
I am? I could have sworn I was voting you.

Let's fix that real quick.
[x] Null
[x] Lynch ComiTurtle


Eight hours and six minutes remaining.

Need to go try and find the roleblocker, but that's work and I have actual work tomorrow.
 
Man... I really need to be asleep... I think I've figured out my problem this game though, at least for this phase, because I've been progressively becoming more and more ill over the phase. And I hate being ill, normally doesn't fuck with my head though...

Lets see what quotes I've gathered from today I guess?



Wait... really only 4?

Whatever... lets look at them I guess.

Full clarity I'm using my opinion that Nictis and Evenstar are town in this analysis for why things are suspect.

Also,

Now that Look to the Left has flipped scum, would you like to explain this comment?

Ban has been very background this game, for school reasons as mentioned, but we can still analyze what little posts we get, and this is just a blatant set-up question. Targeting Evenstar (who I easily connected to Nictis since like midday 2, with suspicions reading day 1. This connection pointed the pair strongly towards, in the VIP design, that one of them is likely the VIP.) Evenstar has claimed roleblocked not sure before or after this post, but since I believe it essentially confirmed that roleblocker is scum in the VIP design, that its a very simple set-up. Block them so they have no information (though... I'll be honest if I wasn't so basic I feared that roleblocker may be a scum investigator as part of it since they killed Nanimani, however, the low power of my own role suggests that that wouldn't be likely given the one confirmed point of info I have.) Did I actually say my point in this paragraph of asides? Basically scum roleblocks person they think is the VIP that has some suspicions on them from the general public to try and push the lynch force them to respond and create the easy argument of false roleblock claim for town-cred and no night information.

Nothing happened to me either. I'd love to hear about this Nictis theory, care to elaborate?



Thx LDJ! Well @Absum now you know~

Basically I see this a continued egging of the fairly easily analyzable Nictis/Evenstar pair, with free distance from Absum another suspicious player to do so for them.

The RBer is 100% scum, IMO. It doesn't make sense for them to be town.

So... the point of the ask was to see if they would come forward, this post kinda hurt the gambit of trying to make it seem like the roleblocker could get away with claiming town roleblocker. Directly stating being unable to believe that such a role is town makes that unlikely bait to become nearly impossible.

I say that for the same reason I don't beleive there's an unrestricted vig: it's too easy to screw over yourself. On top of that, given that we've been basically outright told that scum are trying to kill a specific target, it makes sense for town to have protective roles, and for scum to have a RBer to help deal with them.

I am confused about where this vig talk came from.

I will say that near the current posts I was feeling an Absum/1k scum team, but 1k voting post their reveal kinda broke that theory.
 
the vig thing was something i mentioned early on in my analysis of the setup, where I said i didn't beleive there would be an sk, a strongman, or a vig in this game.
 
Also I'm just kinda not used to setting up ruses given I haven't played scum. I took it at face value that people were unsure if the RBer was scum, and didn't really think about the benefits of holding my belief on the topic back. Sorry.
 
Also I'm just kinda not used to setting up ruses given I haven't played scum. I took it at face value that people were unsure if the RBer was scum, and didn't really think about the benefits of holding my belief on the topic back. Sorry.

Its okay, I don't have much room to be teaching in this game in particular, may legitimately be worse than my game as the hell-beast. :V
 
For my own convenience, I'll go through people from lowest post count to highest.


QTesseract: Still dead.

Happerry:
"Unfortunate role name, but pretty sure is not scum", Meme vote on TD, tells Est is not in a Quicktopic and mention of notes and callback to their mislynch for standard note taking, acknowledges an issue with activity levels with a slight poke at TD for keeping reasons hidden, lukewarm on Rosen lynch and agrees to look into TD's posts, votes TurtleDucks for evasiveness, sadface. That's not a whole lot of stuff from Day 1. Day 2: Suggests 1K looks into Rosen voters and calls LttL not mentioning them Wine, Day is Quiet, was most concerned by Meso Day 1 for general tone (No previous mentions) says that the inactivity of LttL isn't compelling and questions Eva for reasoning. End of Day 2, LttL is lynched. Start Day 3: Last post with slight but valid shade of Evenstar, thinks Meso unvoted too quickly, eyeroll at ComiTurtle, 'You stopped the ruse too quickly', questions high placement on Eva's Town list, specific Meso post mentioned by Nictis is why suspicion existed, moan about my reveal, questions town reads and mentions that they haven't been very helpful.

[x] Null
[x] Lynch Happerry


Not a whole lot to say here, no real content to look at beyond the Meso suspicion that was originally tonal but then had a specific post that was bugging them, and what could be an attempt at distancing from LttL and downplaying the reason to lynch him.

DimensionalGuy:
Responds to Rosen's question (Can confirm that he does tend to be suspicious of me, post feels very honest), explanation and intent to improve inactivity with some good questions and responses to activity in thread, openly mentions that they read a post as a power role claim, twigged by my hinting Day 1 and attempts to get some participation out of LttL, responds to activity poke with activity and reads, votes Rosen. Day 2, Start. Attempts to figure out and explain Nani's vote on him while suggesting that Evenstar keeps power info close to the chest, acknowledges validity of Nani's vote on him and offers to go try to find suspicious activity in Day 1, didn't find anything particularly suspicious but did a full ISO of Est and came up with basically the same result as everyone else, 'sorry not sorry', votes LttL with an explanation for why not some others. Ends the day voting LttL, Day 3 Start. Questions who died, picks out potentially relevant quotes from LttL, Setup Spec on the Assassins and pulling quote from Nani on roleblock flavor, read progressions, (accidental early post) Evenstar suspicion has gone bad, posted early, (Actual post) points out issues in Evenstar's suspicion to the roleblocker and says they will do an ISO of Eva, does the ISO of Evenstar and goes to bed voting her, unvotes Evenstar in response to my reveal, Computer died and decided to give me his vote to use freely.

I'll be honest, on review I'm feeling DG as an even stronger Town read than initially. I really don't understand any of the DG suspicion that's been going around this game.

TurtleDucks/Comi: Blegh, too many posts right now. Already said basically what I have to say about them.

Ban:
Response to Est on thoughts of other players, continued previous, non-answer to Rosen's question, response to questioning of response, responds to Rosen questioning about Evenstar, enjoys both alignments, joke, conversational post on notes, doctor wine jokery, shots fired, explains Wine reference, joke, response to Evenstar's reveal of mason, defends Rosen's pride, responds to questions with non-read of TD and setup spec, explains Town of Salem neutral roles, explains NAI, questioning of the interactions between Nictis and Evenstar with a non-serious vote, reads post in response to Cyricubed, supports gut reaction to vote 1K but agrees with 1K, explains Day 1 courtesy, thoughts on the Rosen wagon. Day 1 End. Day 2, Start. Explains slight town read of Absum to Absum while questioning TD's read, RL got in way of Day End for Ban, QT is dead, votes Evenstar for voting him without well provided reasoning (His interpretation of why feels somewhat good to me, but ultimately meh), bigger response post with justifications for reads, RL is getting in way of activity and not much has changed, prickly response to Absum, is too busy and is stressed for it, pings LttL, ninja joke, explaining ninja joke, readslist of everyone, responds to my question on TD. End Day 2, does not respond to my question beyond that. Day 3, Start. Questions who died, questions Evenstar on LttL lynch comment, claims no notable actions on him N2 and asks about Nictis scum theory from Absum, votes Nictis for Townreading Evenstar and knowing Scum Win Condition, acknowledges potential bias against Eva and for Hobo but maintains vote for apparent setup knowledge, dislikes Comi and Absum wagons but also dislikes Comi's response to Nictis, bigger post with thoughts on a variety of stuffs, unvotes in response to my reveal, will be busy and votes Comi on a mild suspicion because it's the only thing that stands out, irritation at claim of being inactive and a lack of scum reads, scum lean at DG for lacking content that isn't reacting to Eva's vote.

Responsive, moderately active, but it's a lot of the same over and over. It's understandable, but it's not quite enough for a slight Town read on it's own, and the only thing keeping it from a slight scum read is the acknowledgment that his read of DG is tainted, because claiming that DG has not had activity is an interesting point in my eyes. So null to slight scum.

I think that's enough for right now.

(Spoilered stuff to avoid it being too wall-y)
 
For my own convenience, I'll go through people from lowest post count to highest.


QTesseract: Still dead.

Happerry:
"Unfortunate role name, but pretty sure is not scum", Meme vote on TD, tells Est is not in a Quicktopic and mention of notes and callback to their mislynch for standard note taking, acknowledges an issue with activity levels with a slight poke at TD for keeping reasons hidden, lukewarm on Rosen lynch and agrees to look into TD's posts, votes TurtleDucks for evasiveness, sadface. That's not a whole lot of stuff from Day 1. Day 2: Suggests 1K looks into Rosen voters and calls LttL not mentioning them Wine, Day is Quiet, was most concerned by Meso Day 1 for general tone (No previous mentions) says that the inactivity of LttL isn't compelling and questions Eva for reasoning. End of Day 2, LttL is lynched. Start Day 3: Last post with slight but valid shade of Evenstar, thinks Meso unvoted too quickly, eyeroll at ComiTurtle, 'You stopped the ruse too quickly', questions high placement on Eva's Town list, specific Meso post mentioned by Nictis is why suspicion existed, moan about my reveal, questions town reads and mentions that they haven't been very helpful.

[x] Null
[x] Lynch Happerry


Not a whole lot to say here, no real content to look at beyond the Meso suspicion that was originally tonal but then had a specific post that was bugging them, and what could be an attempt at distancing from LttL and downplaying the reason to lynch him.

DimensionalGuy:
Responds to Rosen's question (Can confirm that he does tend to be suspicious of me, post feels very honest), explanation and intent to improve inactivity with some good questions and responses to activity in thread, openly mentions that they read a post as a power role claim, twigged by my hinting Day 1 and attempts to get some participation out of LttL, responds to activity poke with activity and reads, votes Rosen. Day 2, Start. Attempts to figure out and explain Nani's vote on him while suggesting that Evenstar keeps power info close to the chest, acknowledges validity of Nani's vote on him and offers to go try to find suspicious activity in Day 1, didn't find anything particularly suspicious but did a full ISO of Est and came up with basically the same result as everyone else, 'sorry not sorry', votes LttL with an explanation for why not some others. Ends the day voting LttL, Day 3 Start. Questions who died, picks out potentially relevant quotes from LttL, Setup Spec on the Assassins and pulling quote from Nani on roleblock flavor, read progressions, (accidental early post) Evenstar suspicion has gone bad, posted early, (Actual post) points out issues in Evenstar's suspicion to the roleblocker and says they will do an ISO of Eva, does the ISO of Evenstar and goes to bed voting her, unvotes Evenstar in response to my reveal, Computer died and decided to give me his vote to use freely.

I'll be honest, on review I'm feeling DG as an even stronger Town read than initially. I really don't understand any of the DG suspicion that's been going around this game.

TurtleDucks/Comi: Blegh, too many posts right now. Already said basically what I have to say about them.

Ban:
Response to Est on thoughts of other players, continued previous, non-answer to Rosen's question, response to questioning of response, responds to Rosen questioning about Evenstar, enjoys both alignments, joke, conversational post on notes, doctor wine jokery, shots fired, explains Wine reference, joke, response to Evenstar's reveal of mason, defends Rosen's pride, responds to questions with non-read of TD and setup spec, explains Town of Salem neutral roles, explains NAI, questioning of the interactions between Nictis and Evenstar with a non-serious vote, reads post in response to Cyricubed, supports gut reaction to vote 1K but agrees with 1K, explains Day 1 courtesy, thoughts on the Rosen wagon. Day 1 End. Day 2, Start. Explains slight town read of Absum to Absum while questioning TD's read, RL got in way of Day End for Ban, QT is dead, votes Evenstar for voting him without well provided reasoning (His interpretation of why feels somewhat good to me, but ultimately meh), bigger response post with justifications for reads, RL is getting in way of activity and not much has changed, prickly response to Absum, is too busy and is stressed for it, pings LttL, ninja joke, explaining ninja joke, readslist of everyone, responds to my question on TD. End Day 2, does not respond to my question beyond that. Day 3, Start. Questions who died, questions Evenstar on LttL lynch comment, claims no notable actions on him N2 and asks about Nictis scum theory from Absum, votes Nictis for Townreading Evenstar and knowing Scum Win Condition, acknowledges potential bias against Eva and for Hobo but maintains vote for apparent setup knowledge, dislikes Comi and Absum wagons but also dislikes Comi's response to Nictis, bigger post with thoughts on a variety of stuffs, unvotes in response to my reveal, will be busy and votes Comi on a mild suspicion because it's the only thing that stands out, irritation at claim of being inactive and a lack of scum reads, scum lean at DG for lacking content that isn't reacting to Eva's vote.

Responsive, moderately active, but it's a lot of the same over and over. It's understandable, but it's not quite enough for a slight Town read on it's own, and the only thing keeping it from a slight scum read is the acknowledgment that his read of DG is tainted, because claiming that DG has not had activity is an interesting point in my eyes. So null to slight scum.

I think that's enough for right now.

(Spoilered stuff to avoid it being too wall-y)

You don't trust me I get that, but I do find Happerry to be town, I'll admit not for really great reasons, and a big bit is based on the first thing you summarize in here, but even though Happerry hasn't been contributing much or frequently, when they are here I'm reading it as town, its what I'd probably relate to a tone read... and various subtle things. I feel Ban is much more likely scum, this day phase, in particular, feels like they wanted to begin with targeting you and Evenstar (and I'll repeat I think it was fairly clear you were directly related to each other the only thing that really has made me doubt that is honestly you're conflicting opinions on me and that doesn't much play a part post your claim). I'm the safe back-up for scum to hide behind at this point, and Ban took that bait. (Though the vote is before Absum's claim and they've not posted since it.)

I guess it doesn't help that I still don't think there was really great purpose for the lynch of LTTL, its was in my opinion just inactivity lynch that hit, like just hitting first guess in battleship. The only thing really against them was that there was nothing to really analyze and that was worsened by just not being active.
 
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