Epitaph - A Civilization Quest

[X] ...Opening her trade: To the far east, there was a whole sea of trade to which Hoxma had exclusive access through the river, by which Hoxman boats traveled upstreams. Now, they found themselves joined by Eskerag boats as a royal decree from the emperor formally permitted Eskeragal to trade on the eastern "monsoon sea". An immense amount of new riches were brought to Eskeragal by this new route and the palace took swift advantage of this. The power of the palace increased by several orders of magnitude as the trade brought wealth and power for Eskeragal, which the palatial taxation quickly transformed into wealth and power for the palace. (+1 Centralization)
[X] ...North: To first the west and then north, a series of tribes, vaguely united in confederation lived by their inland sea. They traded here, they made wine and spoke languages unrelated to any in the area. These were the Wine-Maker tribes, undeveloped and barely sedentary. Urban centres in this region were only loosely urban and tended more towards particularly large villages. Previously, trade with powers from the Greatwater Valley had only been indirect, but after the Eskerag voyage, trade regularly increased. Over the coming centuries, the Wine-Makers would steadily take on more and more Eskerag qualities and make use of their art and art inspired by it, along with several new gods introduced. (Trade routes to the Wine-Makers secured. No other benefit other than accelerating the sedentarization and urbanization of the Wine-Makers. Contact will be studied extensively in the future.)
[X] ...The beasts: The Wild Lady would eventually take on the aspects of a fertility goddess through the domain of the beasts. The multiplication and diversity of nature was essential to the prosperity of Eskeragal. The Wild Lady, as mistress of the beasts and ruler of animals came to patronize hunters and trainers alike, ruling in the dual office of the hunt and domestication of animals. She would eventually become consort to the Storm King and mother to his children.

[X] ...Opening her trade: To the far east, there was a whole sea of trade to which Hoxma had exclusive access through the river, by which Hoxman boats traveled upstreams. Now, they found themselves joined by Eskerag boats as a royal decree from the emperor formally permitted Eskeragal to trade on the eastern "monsoon sea". An immense amount of new riches were brought to Eskeragal by this new route and the palace took swift advantage of this. The power of the palace increased by several orders of magnitude as the trade brought wealth and power for Eskeragal, which the palatial taxation quickly transformed into wealth and power for the palace. (+1 Centralization)
[X] ...North: To first the west and then north, a series of tribes, vaguely united in confederation lived by their inland sea. They traded here, they made wine and spoke languages unrelated to any in the area. These were the Wine-Maker tribes, undeveloped and barely sedentary. Urban centres in this region were only loosely urban and tended more towards particularly large villages. Previously, trade with powers from the Greatwater Valley had only been indirect, but after the Eskerag voyage, trade regularly increased. Over the coming centuries, the Wine-Makers would steadily take on more and more Eskerag qualities and make use of their art and art inspired by it, along with several new gods introduced. (Trade routes to the Wine-Makers secured. No other benefit other than accelerating the sedentarization and urbanization of the Wine-Makers. Contact will be studied extensively in the future.)
[X] ...The beasts: The Wild Lady would eventually take on the aspects of a fertility goddess through the domain of the beasts. The multiplication and diversity of nature was essential to the prosperity of Eskeragal. The Wild Lady, as mistress of the beasts and ruler of animals came to patronize hunters and trainers alike, ruling in the dual office of the hunt and domestication of animals. She would eventually become consort to the Storm King and mother to his children.

[X] ...Opening her trade: To the far east, there was a whole sea of trade to which Hoxma had exclusive access through the river, by which Hoxman boats traveled upstreams. Now, they found themselves joined by Eskerag boats as a royal decree from the emperor formally permitted Eskeragal to trade on the eastern "monsoon sea". An immense amount of new riches were brought to Eskeragal by this new route and the palace took swift advantage of this. The power of the palace increased by several orders of magnitude as the trade brought wealth and power for Eskeragal, which the palatial taxation quickly transformed into wealth and power for the palace. (+1 Centralization)
[X] ...North: To first the west and then north, a series of tribes, vaguely united in confederation lived by their inland sea. They traded here, they made wine and spoke languages unrelated to any in the area. These were the Wine-Maker tribes, undeveloped and barely sedentary. Urban centres in this region were only loosely urban and tended more towards particularly large villages. Previously, trade with powers from the Greatwater Valley had only been indirect, but after the Eskerag voyage, trade regularly increased. Over the coming centuries, the Wine-Makers would steadily take on more and more Eskerag qualities and make use of their art and art inspired by it, along with several new gods introduced. (Trade routes to the Wine-Makers secured. No other benefit other than accelerating the sedentarization and urbanization of the Wine-Makers. Contact will be studied extensively in the future.)
[X] ...The beasts: The Wild Lady would eventually take on the aspects of a fertility goddess through the domain of the beasts. The multiplication and diversity of nature was essential to the prosperity of Eskeragal. The Wild Lady, as mistress of the beasts and ruler of animals came to patronize hunters and trainers alike, ruling in the dual office of the hunt and domestication of animals. She would eventually become consort to the Storm King and mother to his children.

[X] ...Opening her trade: To the far east, there was a whole sea of trade to which Hoxma had exclusive access through the river, by which Hoxman boats traveled upstreams. Now, they found themselves joined by Eskerag boats as a royal decree from the emperor formally permitted Eskeragal to trade on the eastern "monsoon sea". An immense amount of new riches were brought to Eskeragal by this new route and the palace took swift advantage of this. The power of the palace increased by several orders of magnitude as the trade brought wealth and power for Eskeragal, which the palatial taxation quickly transformed into wealth and power for the palace. (+1 Centralization)
[X] ...North: To first the west and then north, a series of tribes, vaguely united in confederation lived by their inland sea. They traded here, they made wine and spoke languages unrelated to any in the area. These were the Wine-Maker tribes, undeveloped and barely sedentary. Urban centres in this region were only loosely urban and tended more towards particularly large villages. Previously, trade with powers from the Greatwater Valley had only been indirect, but after the Eskerag voyage, trade regularly increased. Over the coming centuries, the Wine-Makers would steadily take on more and more Eskerag qualities and make use of their art and art inspired by it, along with several new gods introduced. (Trade routes to the Wine-Makers secured. No other benefit other than accelerating the sedentarization and urbanization of the Wine-Makers. Contact will be studied extensively in the future.)
[X] ...The beasts: The Wild Lady would eventually take on the aspects of a fertility goddess through the domain of the beasts. The multiplication and diversity of nature was essential to the prosperity of Eskeragal. The Wild Lady, as mistress of the beasts and ruler of animals came to patronize hunters and trainers alike, ruling in the dual office of the hunt and domestication of animals. She would eventually become consort to the Storm King and mother to his children.

[X] ...Crushing her enemy: The feud between Eskeragal and Askomekane had not ended with the defeat of the coalition. As a result of growing Eskerag superiority, Askomekane launched another attack backed by the coalition, but this time found itself severely outmatched. In the end, Eskeragal and Hoxma sacked Askomekane proper and tore down its walls. The bounty was divided between them and Eskeragal carried off the chief icons of Askomek gods back to the settlement itself. Askomekane was not permanently destroyed, but a Hoxman prince sat in the palace and every year tribute traveled from Askomekane to Hoxma. (+1 Urbanization)
[X] ...West: Westwards from Eskeragal, there lies an island populated by the Copper-Traders, at this point in time, famed most of all for their high-quality copper. Further west yet, however, much further west, lies another island not far from the coast of the Calf-Land. Bountiful in fertile soil and agriculture, this island was settled by the dolmen-building Grain-Farmers, who traded in olive oils and wine. Poor in metals, however, they imported their materials from the mainland itself, but with the arrival of Eskeragal, the possibility for imports from the Copper-Traders through the medium of Eskeragal suddenly became very real. As time went on, this trade route became more permanent as Eskerag traders would sail between the two, moving grain in exchange for copper and vice-versa. The Grain-Farmers gained their tools and weapons, the Copper-Traders gained their food and grain and Eskeragal? Well Eskeragal grew very rich. (You will gain control of trade routes for copper and grain. Historians will take note of the voyage and recognize your role in spreading material culture.)
[X] ...The beasts: The Wild Lady would eventually take on the aspects of a fertility goddess through the domain of the beasts. The multiplication and diversity of nature was essential to the prosperity of Eskeragal. The Wild Lady, as mistress of the beasts and ruler of animals came to patronize hunters and trainers alike, ruling in the dual office of the hunt and domestication of animals. She would eventually become consort to the Storm King and mother to his children.

[X] ...Opening her trade: To the far east, there was a whole sea of trade to which Hoxma had exclusive access through the river, by which Hoxman boats traveled upstreams. Now, they found themselves joined by Eskerag boats as a royal decree from the emperor formally permitted Eskeragal to trade on the eastern "monsoon sea". An immense amount of new riches were brought to Eskeragal by this new route and the palace took swift advantage of this. The power of the palace increased by several orders of magnitude as the trade brought wealth and power for Eskeragal, which the palatial taxation quickly transformed into wealth and power for the palace. (+1 Centralization)
[X] ...North: To first the west and then north, a series of tribes, vaguely united in confederation lived by their inland sea. They traded here, they made wine and spoke languages unrelated to any in the area. These were the Wine-Maker tribes, undeveloped and barely sedentary. Urban centres in this region were only loosely urban and tended more towards particularly large villages. Previously, trade with powers from the Greatwater Valley had only been indirect, but after the Eskerag voyage, trade regularly increased. Over the coming centuries, the Wine-Makers would steadily take on more and more Eskerag qualities and make use of their art and art inspired by it, along with several new gods introduced. (Trade routes to the Wine-Makers secured. No other benefit other than accelerating the sedentarization and urbanization of the Wine-Makers. Contact will be studied extensively in the future.)
[X] ...The beasts: The Wild Lady would eventually take on the aspects of a fertility goddess through the domain of the beasts. The multiplication and diversity of nature was essential to the prosperity of Eskeragal. The Wild Lady, as mistress of the beasts and ruler of animals came to patronize hunters and trainers alike, ruling in the dual office of the hunt and domestication of animals. She would eventually become consort to the Storm King and mother to his children.

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[X] ...Opening her trade: To the far east, there was a whole sea of trade to which Hoxma had exclusive access through the river, by which Hoxman boats traveled upstreams. Now, they found themselves joined by Eskerag boats as a royal decree from the emperor formally permitted Eskeragal to trade on the eastern "monsoon sea". An immense amount of new riches were brought to Eskeragal by this new route and the palace took swift advantage of this. The power of the palace increased by several orders of magnitude as the trade brought wealth and power for Eskeragal, which the palatial taxation quickly transformed into wealth and power for the palace. (+1 Centralization)
[X] ...West: Westwards from Eskeragal, there lies an island populated by the Copper-Traders, at this point in time, famed most of all for their high-quality copper. Further west yet, however, much further west, lies another island not far from the coast of the Calf-Land. Bountiful in fertile soil and agriculture, this island was settled by the dolmen-building Grain-Farmers, who traded in olive oils and wine. Poor in metals, however, they imported their materials from the mainland itself, but with the arrival of Eskeragal, the possibility for imports from the Copper-Traders through the medium of Eskeragal suddenly became very real. As time went on, this trade route became more permanent as Eskerag traders would sail between the two, moving grain in exchange for copper and vice-versa. The Grain-Farmers gained their tools and weapons, the Copper-Traders gained their food and grain and Eskeragal? Well Eskeragal grew very rich. (You will gain control of trade routes for copper and grain. Historians will take note of the voyage and recognize your role in spreading material culture.)
[X] ...The rebirth: The Wild Lady would eventually take on the aspects of a fertility goddess through the domain of the rebirth. Every winter, the world would die, and every spring, it would rise again. Similarly, the Wild Lady would die and be reborn with the world. This goddess who stood between the world of the living and the world of the dead would eventually become consort to the Storm King and mother to his children.

[X] ...Raising her above: Eskeragal had historically been a power on the coast, but always second-rate compared to Askomekane, which was larger and more powerful in terms of military. With the diplomatic association of Hoxma and Eskeragal, this changed. Over the coming century, Eskeragal would take a stronger role in the affairs of the People as a hegemon in its own right. Askomekane would increasingly find its coalition dwindling, its power waning as it steadily became diplomatically isolated. Eskeragal, in turn, found itself growing as new houses and buildings sprung up with immigration from the People all over the coast. (+1 Sedentism)

[X] ...West: Westwards from Eskeragal, there lies an island populated by the Copper-Traders, at this point in time, famed most of all for their high-quality copper. Further west yet, however, much further west, lies another island not far from the coast of the Calf-Land. Bountiful in fertile soil and agriculture, this island was settled by the dolmen-building Grain-Farmers, who traded in olive oils and wine. Poor in metals, however, they imported their materials from the mainland itself, but with the arrival of Eskeragal, the possibility for imports from the Copper-Traders through the medium of Eskeragal suddenly became very real. As time went on, this trade route became more permanent as Eskerag traders would sail between the two, moving grain in exchange for copper and vice-versa. The Grain-Farmers gained their tools and weapons, the Copper-Traders gained their food and grain and Eskeragal? Well Eskeragal grew very rich. (You will gain control of trade routes for copper and grain. Historians will take note of the voyage and recognize your role in spreading material culture.)

[X] ...The hearth: The Wild Lady would eventually take on the aspects of a fertility goddess through the domain of the hearth. A safe childbirth, a safe home and a safe family were all important to the ancient Eskerag people. Ever the dutiful and motherly wife, she fed the other gods by taking care of the sacrifices given with her excellent cookery and would eventually become consort to the Storm King and mother to his children.

[X] ...Opening her trade: To the far east, there was a whole sea of trade to which Hoxma had exclusive access through the river, by which Hoxman boats traveled upstreams. Now, they found themselves joined by Eskerag boats as a royal decree from the emperor formally permitted Eskeragal to trade on the eastern "monsoon sea". An immense amount of new riches were brought to Eskeragal by this new route and the palace took swift advantage of this. The power of the palace increased by several orders of magnitude as the trade brought wealth and power for Eskeragal, which the palatial taxation quickly transformed into wealth and power for the palace. (+1 Centralization)
[X] ...North: To first the west and then north, a series of tribes, vaguely united in confederation lived by their inland sea. They traded here, they made wine and spoke languages unrelated to any in the area. These were the Wine-Maker tribes, undeveloped and barely sedentary. Urban centres in this region were only loosely urban and tended more towards particularly large villages. Previously, trade with powers from the Greatwater Valley had only been indirect, but after the Eskerag voyage, trade regularly increased. Over the coming centuries, the Wine-Makers would steadily take on more and more Eskerag qualities and make use of their art and art inspired by it, along with several new gods introduced. (Trade routes to the Wine-Makers secured. No other benefit other than accelerating the sedentarization and urbanization of the Wine-Makers. Contact will be studied extensively in the future.)
[X] ...The beasts: The Wild Lady would eventually take on the aspects of a fertility goddess through the domain of the beasts. The multiplication and diversity of nature was essential to the prosperity of Eskeragal. The Wild Lady, as mistress of the beasts and ruler of animals came to patronize hunters and trainers alike, ruling in the dual office of the hunt and domestication of animals. She would eventually become consort to the Storm King and mother to his children.

[X] ...West: Westwards from Eskeragal, there lies an island populated by the Copper-Traders, at this point in time, famed most of all for their high-quality copper. Further west yet, however, much further west, lies another island not far from the coast of the Calf-Land. Bountiful in fertile soil and agriculture, this island was settled by the dolmen-building Grain-Farmers, who traded in olive oils and wine. Poor in metals, however, they imported their materials from the mainland itself, but with the arrival of Eskeragal, the possibility for imports from the Copper-Traders through the medium of Eskeragal suddenly became very real. As time went on, this trade route became more permanent as Eskerag traders would sail between the two, moving grain in exchange for copper and vice-versa. The Grain-Farmers gained their tools and weapons, the Copper-Traders gained their food and grain and Eskeragal? Well Eskeragal grew very rich. (You will gain control of trade routes for copper and grain. Historians will take note of the voyage and recognize your role in spreading material culture.)

[X] ...Opening her trade: To the far east, there was a whole sea of trade to which Hoxma had exclusive access through the river, by which Hoxman boats traveled upstreams. Now, they found themselves joined by Eskerag boats as a royal decree from the emperor formally permitted Eskeragal to trade on the eastern "monsoon sea". An immense amount of new riches were brought to Eskeragal by this new route and the palace took swift advantage of this. The power of the palace increased by several orders of magnitude as the trade brought wealth and power for Eskeragal, which the palatial taxation quickly transformed into wealth and power for the palace. (+1 Centralization)
[X] ...North: To first the west and then north, a series of tribes, vaguely united in confederation lived by their inland sea. They traded here, they made wine and spoke languages unrelated to any in the area. These were the Wine-Maker tribes, undeveloped and barely sedentary. Urban centres in this region were only loosely urban and tended more towards particularly large villages. Previously, trade with powers from the Greatwater Valley had only been indirect, but after the Eskerag voyage, trade regularly increased. Over the coming centuries, the Wine-Makers would steadily take on more and more Eskerag qualities and make use of their art and art inspired by it, along with several new gods introduced. (Trade routes to the Wine-Makers secured. No other benefit other than accelerating the sedentarization and urbanization of the Wine-Makers. Contact will be studied extensively in the future.)
[X] ...The beasts: The Wild Lady would eventually take on the aspects of a fertility goddess through the domain of the beasts. The multiplication and diversity of nature was essential to the prosperity of Eskeragal. The Wild Lady, as mistress of the beasts and ruler of animals came to patronize hunters and trainers alike, ruling in the dual office of the hunt and domestication of animals. She would eventually become consort to the Storm King and mother to his children.

[X] ...Raising her above: Eskeragal had historically been a power on the coast, but always second-rate compared to Askomekane, which was larger and more powerful in terms of military. With the diplomatic association of Hoxma and Eskeragal, this changed. Over the coming century, Eskeragal would take a stronger role in the affairs of the People as a hegemon in its own right. Askomekane would increasingly find its coalition dwindling, its power waning as it steadily became diplomatically isolated. Eskeragal, in turn, found itself growing as new houses and buildings sprung up with immigration from the People all over the coast. (+1 Sedentism)
[X] ...North: To first the west and then north, a series of tribes, vaguely united in confederation lived by their inland sea. They traded here, they made wine and spoke languages unrelated to any in the area. These were the Wine-Maker tribes, undeveloped and barely sedentary. Urban centres in this region were only loosely urban and tended more towards particularly large villages. Previously, trade with powers from the Greatwater Valley had only been indirect, but after the Eskerag voyage, trade regularly increased. Over the coming centuries, the Wine-Makers would steadily take on more and more Eskerag qualities and make use of their art and art inspired by it, along with several new gods introduced. (Trade routes to the Wine-Makers secured. No other benefit other than accelerating the sedentarization and urbanization of the Wine-Makers. Contact will be studied extensively in the future.)
[X] ...The rebirth: The Wild Lady would eventually take on the aspects of a fertility goddess through the domain of the rebirth. Every winter, the world would die, and every spring, it would rise again. Similarly, the Wild Lady would die and be reborn with the world. This goddess who stood between the world of the living and the world of the dead would eventually become consort to the Storm King and mother to his children.

[X] ...Crushing her enemy: The feud between Eskeragal and Askomekane had not ended with the defeat of the coalition. As a result of growing Eskerag superiority, Askomekane launched another attack backed by the coalition, but this time found itself severely outmatched. In the end, Eskeragal and Hoxma sacked Askomekane proper and tore down its walls. The bounty was divided between them and Eskeragal carried off the chief icons of Askomek gods back to the settlement itself. Askomekane was not permanently destroyed, but a Hoxman prince sat in the palace and every year tribute traveled from Askomekane to Hoxma. (+1 Urbanization)
[X] ...West: Westwards from Eskeragal, there lies an island populated by the Copper-Traders, at this point in time, famed most of all for their high-quality copper. Further west yet, however, much further west, lies another island not far from the coast of the Calf-Land. Bountiful in fertile soil and agriculture, this island was settled by the dolmen-building Grain-Farmers, who traded in olive oils and wine. Poor in metals, however, they imported their materials from the mainland itself, but with the arrival of Eskeragal, the possibility for imports from the Copper-Traders through the medium of Eskeragal suddenly became very real. As time went on, this trade route became more permanent as Eskerag traders would sail between the two, moving grain in exchange for copper and vice-versa. The Grain-Farmers gained their tools and weapons, the Copper-Traders gained their food and grain and Eskeragal? Well Eskeragal grew very rich. (You will gain control of trade routes for copper and grain. Historians will take note of the voyage and recognize your role in spreading material culture.)
[X] ...The beasts: The Wild Lady would eventually take on the aspects of a fertility goddess through the domain of the beasts. The multiplication and diversity of nature was essential to the prosperity of Eskeragal. The Wild Lady, as mistress of the beasts and ruler of animals came to patronize hunters and trainers alike, ruling in the dual office of the hunt and domestication of animals. She would eventually become consort to the Storm King and mother to his children.

i want a giant copper lion statue standing atop the ashes of our enemies

Admiral Skippy said:

i want a giant copper lion statue standing atop the ashes of our enemies

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WE CANNOT ALLOW A COPPER GAP

[X] ...Opening her trade: To the far east, there was a whole sea of trade to which Hoxma had exclusive access through the river, by which Hoxman boats traveled upstreams. Now, they found themselves joined by Eskerag boats as a royal decree from the emperor formally permitted Eskeragal to trade on the eastern "monsoon sea". An immense amount of new riches were brought to Eskeragal by this new route and the palace took swift advantage of this. The power of the palace increased by several orders of magnitude as the trade brought wealth and power for Eskeragal, which the palatial taxation quickly transformed into wealth and power for the palace. (+1 Centralization)
[X] ...North: To first the west and then north, a series of tribes, vaguely united in confederation lived by their inland sea. They traded here, they made wine and spoke languages unrelated to any in the area. These were the Wine-Maker tribes, undeveloped and barely sedentary. Urban centres in this region were only loosely urban and tended more towards particularly large villages. Previously, trade with powers from the Greatwater Valley had only been indirect, but after the Eskerag voyage, trade regularly increased. Over the coming centuries, the Wine-Makers would steadily take on more and more Eskerag qualities and make use of their art and art inspired by it, along with several new gods introduced. (Trade routes to the Wine-Makers secured. No other benefit other than accelerating the sedentarization and urbanization of the Wine-Makers. Contact will be studied extensively in the future.)
[X] ...The hearth: The Wild Lady would eventually take on the aspects of a fertility goddess through the domain of the hearth. A safe childbirth, a safe home and a safe family were all important to the ancient Eskerag people. Ever the dutiful and motherly wife, she fed the other gods by taking care of the sacrifices given with her excellent cookery and would eventually become consort to the Storm King and mother to his children.

AN makes a good point again.

[X] ...Opening her trade: To the far east, there was a whole sea of trade to which Hoxma had exclusive access through the river, by which Hoxman boats traveled upstreams. Now, they found themselves joined by Eskerag boats as a royal decree from the emperor formally permitted Eskeragal to trade on the eastern "monsoon sea". An immense amount of new riches were brought to Eskeragal by this new route and the palace took swift advantage of this. The power of the palace increased by several orders of magnitude as the trade brought wealth and power for Eskeragal, which the palatial taxation quickly transformed into wealth and power for the palace. (+1 Centralization)
[X] ...West: Westwards from Eskeragal, there lies an island populated by the Copper-Traders, at this point in time, famed most of all for their high-quality copper. Further west yet, however, much further west, lies another island not far from the coast of the Calf-Land. Bountiful in fertile soil and agriculture, this island was settled by the dolmen-building Grain-Farmers, who traded in olive oils and wine. Poor in metals, however, they imported their materials from the mainland itself, but with the arrival of Eskeragal, the possibility for imports from the Copper-Traders through the medium of Eskeragal suddenly became very real. As time went on, this trade route became more permanent as Eskerag traders would sail between the two, moving grain in exchange for copper and vice-versa. The Grain-Farmers gained their tools and weapons, the Copper-Traders gained their food and grain and Eskeragal? Well Eskeragal grew very rich. (You will gain control of trade routes for copper and grain. Historians will take note of the voyage and recognize your role in spreading material culture.)
[X] ...The beasts: The Wild Lady would eventually take on the aspects of a fertility goddess through the domain of the beasts. The multiplication and diversity of nature was essential to the prosperity of Eskeragal. The Wild Lady, as mistress of the beasts and ruler of animals came to patronize hunters and trainers alike, ruling in the dual office of the hunt and domestication of animals. She would eventually become consort to the Storm King and mother to his children.

I'd like to say that as long as we're talking about spreading our culture far, West can give us a lot too. We can become Phoenicia before Phoenicia, not only spreading our culture with big naval trade network, but founding colonies all across Mediterranean, some of which could survive and thrive well beyond our collapse, should that collapse happen. Just this option already gives us trade as far as Sicily, and it can only grow from there. Compared to that, Caucasus doesn't seem to be all that far to me.

Also, there's something to be said for synergy between two options bringing us tons of reaches. Don't you want Eskeragal to become double filthy rich?

agumentic said:

I'd like to say that as long as we're talking about spreading our culture far, West can give us a lot too. We can become Phoenicia before Phoenicia, not only spreading our culture with big naval trade network, but founding colonies all across Mediterranean, some of which could survive and thrive well beyond our collapse, should that collapse happen. Just this option already gives us trade as far as Sicily, and it can only grow from there. Compared to that, Caucasus doesn't seem to be all that far to me.

Also, there's something to be said for synergy between two options bringing us tons of reaches. Don't you want Eskeragal to become double filthy rich?

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Sicily? Mediterranean? As far as I can tell there's no indication those exist here.

BungieONI said:

Sicily? Mediterranean? As far as I can tell there's no indication those exist here.

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Sure, besides a God-King to the southwest ruling over people of the great river that is certainly not Nile in the country that is certainly not Egypt, an island to the west of us famed for copper that is certainly not Cyprus (An island so famed for copper that it is not entirely clear whether the island was named for copper or the other way around) and an island a lot more to the west of us, with dolmen-building Grain-Farmers that is certainly not Sicily (an island that is filled with ancient dolmens and that was famed for its grain throughout classical world). We might not be on exact copy of Mediterranean, though it's hard to say now, but I think that the usual approach was taken here, where you change a couple of geographical features but the general shape remains the same.

agumentic said:

Sure, besides a God-King to the southwest ruling over people of the great river that is certainly not Nile in the country that is certainly not Egypt, an island to the west of us famed for copper that is certainly not Cyprus (An island so famed for copper that it is not entirely clear whether the island was named for copper or the other way around) and an island a lot more to the west of us, with dolmen-building Grain-Farmers that is certainly not Sicily (an island that is filled with ancient dolmens and that was famed for its grain throughout classical world). We might not be on exact copy of Mediterranean, though it's hard to say now, but I think that the usual approach was taken here, where you change a couple of geographical features but the general shape remains the same.

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Oh.

Okay.

agumentic said:

Sure, besides a God-King to the southwest ruling over people of the great river that is certainly not Nile in the country that is certainly not Egypt, an island to the west of us famed for copper that is certainly not Cyprus (An island so famed for copper that it is not entirely clear whether the island was named for copper or the other way around) and an island a lot more to the west of us, with dolmen-building Grain-Farmers that is certainly not Sicily (an island that is filled with ancient dolmens and that was famed for its grain throughout classical world). We might not be on exact copy of Mediterranean, though it's hard to say now, but I think that the usual approach was taken here, where you change a couple of geographical features but the general shape remains the same.

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The area in general is very Mediterranean-like, because the Mediterranean was designed by God to run His personal D&D campaign in, and is therefore the most interesting place on earth. But it does have some pretty significant differences. However, pretty much all of those are correct, although you're somewhat early for being the Phoenicians and should probably look at the centralized trade networks of the Bronze Age, rather than the Iron Age Phoenicians.

ManusDomini said:

The area in general is very Mediterranean-like, because the Mediterranean was designed by God to run His personal D&D campaign in, and is therefore the most interesting place on earth. But it does have some pretty significant differences. However, pretty much all of those are correct, although you're somewhat early for being the Phoenicians and should probably look at the centralized trade networks of the Bronze Age, rather than the Iron Age Phoenicians.

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Speaking of Bronze Age, if the sources of tin remain where they are in our world, someone will need to get good at boats and long-range trading to get all that tin from the other side of Europe here. And if we do that, we can become fabulously wealthy, because everyone wants tin and it's really hard to find.

ManusDomini said:

The area in general is very Mediterranean-like, because the Mediterranean was designed by God to run His personal D&D campaign in, and is therefore the most interesting place on earth. But it does have some pretty significant differences. However, pretty much all of those are correct, although you're somewhat early for being the Phoenicians and should probably look at the centralized trade networks of the Bronze Age, rather than the Iron Age Phoenicians.

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Glorious Achaemenid forcing us to bow before the King of Kings when?

Random Member said:

Glorious Achaemenid forcing us to bow before the King of Kings when?

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Perhaps in a sequel. This game will stretch no further than approximately the time of the Late Bronze Age Collapse, after which we'll see how well you've managed and if you can avoid having your state collapse.