[X] Plan Optimat Politics
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[X] Write-In: Discipline. It is said soldiers ignored Sertorius and his officers' commands to cease during the sack. There must be a punishment for such insubordination. You have the pay of all men who ignored orders heavily docked. Gold speaks louder than blood.
-[X] Write-In: Memorial. Have a stone monument erected outside the ruins of Nola, with an inscription in large letters, high enough off the ground that a man cannot easily reach it. "Here stood the city of Nola, spurning the outstretched hand of Rome. Here came the sword of Rome, in the year of Flaccus and Marius. Here fell the city of Nola."
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[X] The Cult of Mars: You attempt to solidify your small cult, turning it into an organization which may survive the transition from military life to civilian. Having brothers bound by bonds deeper than blood in the killing fields of the Senate may prove useful.
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[X] Expand Journal: You begin expanding your journal to include more than strictly military matters, such as political happenings or philosophical musings.
-[X] Make Connections: Ever aloof and arrogant, the aristocrats of the equtii, the knights of Rome, have come to respect you as a leader to look up to over the course of this campaign. You could try to make some deeper connections that might serve you well in the city.
I think that we maybe do celebration?
We are victor in this.It is time to celebrate not moping.
...The Sixth Legion killed thousands of people, many of them unarmed, at least some of them nonhostile, some of them children.
Do you
really think it's time for a party, or are you just trolling?
While I feel we should be critical about our own role in all of this by reflecting via Expand Journal, we are not in a comfortable position to judge the conduct of the legionaries. This is the role of Sertorius or the Camp Prefect.
The Camp Prefect, in the context of this particular legion at least, seems to be serving as a combination of logistics officer and senior-most NCO. He's not going to make a disciplinary decision this important on his own. Sertorius is in a brown study and won't.
The bare fact that we
can make such a decision is an argument that we should.
I would prefer that we do not punish the troops since the hypocrisy would be astounding. Besides the matters should be from Sertorious on the actions of the men and not us unless I get a god reasoning.
Do you consider it hypocritical to punish the troops for disobeying Sertorius' orders?
If he commanded them to stop, and they didn't, then that's important.
If he commanded
Atellus to stop, and
he didn't, then Atellus should forfeit a share of his loot consistent with the share lost by the troops being fined.
That's why my preferred plan(s) revolve around fining the men, not beating them or berating them for massacring the city. I'm trying to make the narrative around this "Sertorius told you to stop,
and you didn't, and that's wrong." I don't consider that hypocritical, especially since if it applies to Atellus I for one am going to vote in favor of him giving up an appropriate share of his loot from the campaign.
[] Plan Nuttius Maximus
-[] Example: Sertorius is wrong. This is an example. A living example. You have the elders of the surrounding towns rounded up and brought to Nola, where they are forced to look upon the ruins of one of the mightiest cities of Campania.
-[] Celebration: Half a hundred amphoras of wine were found under the governor's home. Rome has come up against her foes and triumphed. What better cause for celebration?
I'll ask you what I asked
@skaro .
Do you
like where this goes if we decide that the total destruction of a Roman city that had been occupied by rebels is grounds for
celebration?
K. Read up on the comments. I'm against punishing the legion. Of the boss wants to punish them, we could probably stand with the sixth and take our licks but ignore it otherwise. If we could I would probably go for something like checking on the men to make sure they are fed and healthy or doing a speech saying we could have done better and to stand fast against madness next time.
Also why are you guys so PC? This an ancient Roman quest. Nobody got time for people to be worries over a little war crime, lol. Dice is random, it can happen at anytime so why focus so much on it? Sure it's good to try and prevent it but since it's happened their no reason to force our modern morality onto our character.
Wait. Did you just call
the ancient historian Livy "PC" and "forcing modern morality onto our character?"
Look, as I've discussed above, I think there is a lot of room here to register that in-character Atellus thinks something wrong just happened, even
WITHOUT the ultimate and unforgivable sins of "being PC" or "forcing modern morality onto our character."
What I don't understand is what makes you so eager to
not have Atellus think that something wrong just happened.
Humbly, I think the underlined passage in your quote takes it
a little far.
Were those romans even alive when the seige broke? They should have all died from starvation or something.
SHOULD have?
Maybe we can do it as a free action, should take more then a day to set something up. If the OP makes it a second vote I might vote for it.
We have two free actions we can take regarding how we respond to the sacking of the city. They do not consume resources from the action economy of three personal actions we can take.
Options include "fine the legionnaires for disobeying orders" and "put up a stone monument saying that this is where Nola used to be and what happened to it," though those are both write-ins I came up with. As you see, the plan I vote for above contains them.
