The Second Rome: A Quest of Ancient Byzantium
- Thread starter Telamon
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- Original Historic
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- New York
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[X] The Komnenian Restoration
[X] The Isaurian
[X] The Isaurian
- Location
- Virginia
[X] The Komnenian Restoration
[X] The Scion
[X] The Scion
Droman
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And have the alias, Sewa the African.
For the Arab and Phoenician connections alone, I must make a futile vote against the majority.
[x] The Two Emperors - The year is 968, and the ruling emperor is one Nikephoros II Phokas, called the Hammer of the Arabs and the White Death of the Saracens.
[x] The Favoured - You are Constantine the Phoenician. Your father John of Phoenicia was a servant close to the Emperor's heart, a bosom companion who had followed him since childhood.
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Satar
Xetares, Third Redeemer; World Drinker
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- Sesh
Hey, @Telamon, what would happen if we became Emperor and then converted to Islam? Is that a choice we might get later down the line? Could we become the Ottomans centuries before the Ottomans?
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Any chance we could marry off a daughter matrillinearly to a sayyid and then have our grandson inherit? To be both Roman Emperor and a Caliph: Commander of the Faithful?
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Any chance we could marry off a daughter matrillinearly to a sayyid and then have our grandson inherit? To be both Roman Emperor and a Caliph: Commander of the Faithful?
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ConfusedCanuck
Where did it all go wrong?
- Location
- Neverland
[X] The Komnenian Restoration
[X] The Scion
[X] The Scion
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- kfc
[x] The Two Emperors - The year is 968, and the ruling emperor is one Nikephoros II Phokas, called the Hammer of the Arabs and the White Death of the Saracens.
[x] The Favoured - You are Constantine the Phoenician. Your father John of Phoenicia was a servant close to the Emperor's heart, a bosom companion who had followed him since childhood.
[x] The Favoured - You are Constantine the Phoenician. Your father John of Phoenicia was a servant close to the Emperor's heart, a bosom companion who had followed him since childhood.
BurningLaugh
Shape Shifting Master of Hiatus
- Location
- The Land of Retconnia
[X] The Komnenian Restoration
[X] The Dragon
[X] The Dragon
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King of Discord
I'm QueenErisJane32 on AH.Com
[X] The Two Emperors
[X] The Isaurian
This should be fun.
[X] The Isaurian
This should be fun.
Telamon
A corvid.
- Location
- Texas
I think I answered this question best in another thread.
In short: it's unlikely. Even with maximum popularity and influence, a Muslim emperor/empress would likely be murdered in his/her sleep, at best. He would almost certainly lose the Imperial legitimacy (divinely bestowed and confirmed by the Patriarch of Constantinople), and public sentiment would swing almost entirely against him, even if he were a hero-emperor. At the very best, he might be a new Julian the Apostate, and his reign remembered as another oddity in a long line of emperors. At worst, he might be subject to a damnatio memoriae or a historical hatchet job like Caligula, Elagabalus, and other emperors who got on the bad side of (Christian) biographers.
Either way, it would almost certainly end in blood.
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Revan Skirata
I am Revan Reborn, and before me you are nothing.
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- Why do you want to know?
Let's hope Telamon actually finishes this one, or at least we get to Emperor.
[X] The Komnenian Restoration
[X] The Dragon
This seems like it could be moderately difficult, making for a fun challenge. Since the Byzantines control the Roman Church, we could use that control to prevent the Fourth Crusade, which to my understanding is where it all began to fall apart for the Byzantine Empire.
[X] The Komnenian Restoration
[X] The Dragon
This seems like it could be moderately difficult, making for a fun challenge. Since the Byzantines control the Roman Church, we could use that control to prevent the Fourth Crusade, which to my understanding is where it all began to fall apart for the Byzantine Empire.
BurningLaugh
Shape Shifting Master of Hiatus
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- The Land of Retconnia
Due to me just getting done with CKII using the Ancient Religions Mod,
I am quite interested in reforming rome with the either a worship of the Titans or a return to the roman gods like Sol Invictus
I am quite interested in reforming rome with the either a worship of the Titans or a return to the roman gods like Sol Invictus
Kufufu
Adequate at best
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- What's it to ya?
We would be killed before seven days pass.
Revan Skirata
I am Revan Reborn, and before me you are nothing.
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@BurningLaugh
Well, as Telamon said, trying to switch our religion would likely result in our assassination, and we'd probably lose any support we have with the Western powers, and we wouldn't gain any support from the East, so it would be risking everything for nothing.
Well, as Telamon said, trying to switch our religion would likely result in our assassination, and we'd probably lose any support we have with the Western powers, and we wouldn't gain any support from the East, so it would be risking everything for nothing.
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[X] The Komnenian Restoration
[X] The Scion
If you refer to sack of Constantinople it was direct concequenc of internal power struggle inside the Byzantine Empire with prince Alexios calling in crusaders and using them to become coemperor only to be deposed and killed in uprising leaving crusaders without a pay and promised help to retake back Jerusalem. So stop that and 4th crusade will go toward Jerusalem where it was ment to and be a headache to Egypt ( dominant Muslim power at the time and our rival) .
I believe that what we need to do is win the battle of Myriokephalon (a battle that Manuel lost in OTL) and gain interior of Asia Minor from the Turks wich will make our territories in the east easier to defend.
[X] The Scion
If you refer to sack of Constantinople it was direct concequenc of internal power struggle inside the Byzantine Empire with prince Alexios calling in crusaders and using them to become coemperor only to be deposed and killed in uprising leaving crusaders without a pay and promised help to retake back Jerusalem. So stop that and 4th crusade will go toward Jerusalem where it was ment to and be a headache to Egypt ( dominant Muslim power at the time and our rival) .
I believe that what we need to do is win the battle of Myriokephalon (a battle that Manuel lost in OTL) and gain interior of Asia Minor from the Turks wich will make our territories in the east easier to defend.
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- Location
- United States
[X] The Alexiad
[X] The Dragon
[X] The Dragon
King Tharassian
Governor-Militant
- Location
- Victory Bay, Kronus
...
Can it be?
It is.
Friends, Romans, countrymen! Let us force the hand of fate, and make whole what we know was once great and glorious!
Basileus Basileon Basileuon Basileuonton!
[X] The Alexiad
[X] The Scion
I can never turn down the Argyroi.
Can it be?
It is.
Friends, Romans, countrymen! Let us force the hand of fate, and make whole what we know was once great and glorious!
Basileus Basileon Basileuon Basileuonton!
[X] The Alexiad
[X] The Scion
I can never turn down the Argyroi.
Professor Vesca
Good News Everyone!
[X] The Komnenian Restoration
[X] The Dragon
[X] The Dragon