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That's on me honestly, I mean, the first time I sign to the side I wrote Astaroh instead of Astaroth, but by the time I realized it, it was too late, so I roll with it. :p

As for some insight on votes... I have nothing, I'm still pretty new to Mafia so I don't really get the "tells".

Totally understand I'm ComiTurle on at least one other site. Missing a letter is much less noticeable than getting a wrong letter. I'd like to see more conversation from you, its really the only reason my vote has yet to change. Its okay to be wrong on assumptions, I begin each game viewing every player as scum and let their play determine if I think they are town, instead of the other way around like I think most people do.

As CT mentioned, he is already talking and active. Vote pressure is for those whom are not active or are suspicious

I'm not really active, I had a large post as is common of my play regardless of alignment, I do in general lurk a bit too much as scum, but that also is affected by how busy I am. What I find odd is at the time of this post its your second post in favor of myself and yet your vote is still on me at the time. A find that a little odd, not scummy, just odd.

Ehhh while PL always does this, its still annoying to be able to Meta avoid risk of saying too much. Its not really a proper reasoning but i am on my way to work so agitated lol

[X] Lynch Pawn Lelouch

Fair enough vote reason, somewhat concerning that is seems in conjunction with the other posts in my favor, you're trying to make a buddy association with me.

@Pawn Lelouch I have a question why haven't you voted me yet? I'm certain we've both thought, "Better someone else than me" and as we've both been consistently in the top two I'm wondering why you haven't pushed me?
 
Totally understand I'm ComiTurle on at least one other site. Missing a letter is much less noticeable than getting a wrong letter. I'd like to see more conversation from you, its really the only reason my vote has yet to change. Its okay to be wrong on assumptions, I begin each game viewing every player as scum and let their play determine if I think they are town, instead of the other way around like I think most people do.
Hmmm, well:

[x] Null

[x] Lynch Pawn Lelouch


Why? Because of his last post, if you're going to die already and you have some proof, any kind of proof, that you're actually innocent, I think it would be best to "say" it as subtly as you can, yet he spent his post saying that giving your rol early is a bad idea and that defending yourself is difficult.

The thing is, if you're really town then is possible that people will try to protect you at night because you're the only know town, and the scum will know this so voting for you could end in a wasted of a night yurn, so they will probably target another person, so yeah, I don't see any reason as to not give some "hint" of your rol if you're about to die.

This is all the rambling of some new player though, so be free to argue back.
 
@Pawn Lelouch I have a question why haven't you voted me yet? I'm certain we've both thought, "Better someone else than me" and as we've both been consistently in the top two I'm wondering why you haven't pushed me?

Because I'm still not exactly at that type of desperation point and I would prefer to have you around since you are one of the better players who could help me scum hunt later on.

Why? Because of his last post, if you're going to die already and you have some proof, any kind of proof, that you're actually innocent, I think it would be best to "say" it as subtly as you can, yet he spent his post saying that giving your rol early is a bad idea and that defending yourself is difficult.

The thing is, if you're really town then is possible that people will try to protect you at night because you're the only know town, and the scum will know this so voting for you could end in a wasted of a night yurn, so they will probably target another person, so yeah, I don't see any reason as to not give some "hint" of your rol if you're about to die.

Dude, really? Yes, if you are actually innocent and the clock is ticking down then say your role and the like to get that info out and stop claims of it in the future. My post was in regards to the vast majority of day 1, where pressure is generally a lie and giving out your role early is a mistake.

Say that you are a watcher, to name one of the midtier investigatives. You end up revealing during the middle of the day because you can't push the players off of you. Sure any scum will switch off if they were on your train, but one they usually are a very small part of a vote train early on so those few votes barely make a difference and two, they would likely target a better player first.

That initially seems like something that is counterproductive with what I was saying earlier but it is true, if they can get lucky and take out one of the competent players just due to having a solid voting block and likely abusing the newbie rule they would jump for it. They just don't expect it to work and are likely settling for one of the weaker players.

And lets get back to the revealing as a watcher. Say that you do it and it works out. You get off and some random shmuck gets taken out instead. Now we get to the night phase.

You said you would be protected, and you would be right if there are protective roles in the game (not always the case). But there is a major opportunity cost there because if protective roles are known to be guarding you then scum can act with impunity. It makes for otherwise well protected players due to their skill, become far easier targets because of a lack of expected player roles.

That just isn't worth the cost in my mind. And what if the revealed power is a weak one? Well in that case you have scum a more complete picture of the game and made yourself much weaker as a result since your power is now known and can be played around. You may help yourself but it only hurts town as a whole.

And this is my experience on both sides of the table talking here. Early claims pretty much never go well for town and I always enjoy them when I'm mafia. So I feel secure in my beliefs here.
 
Why? Because of his last post, if you're going to die already and you have some proof, any kind of proof, that you're actually innocent, I think it would be best to "say" it as subtly as you can, yet he spent his post saying that giving your rol early is a bad idea and that defending yourself is difficult.

*has flashbacks to Rikimaru's fustercluck of a game*
 
Okay this getting ridiculous. I keep on seeing players pop up in the viewing tab but saying nothing.

This marks 16 posts from me and is putting me solidly in second place out of a group of 14 players. Yes, D1 is quiet but this is ridiculous.

@The Master
@TheMaskedReader
@Azrael
and @atk50

all have under 5 posts and again, I keep on seeing a few people look but not comment.

So start talking people. atk, either give a reason to keep your meme vote on or switch off. Az and TMR, I get you don't like this phase and joined slightly late respectively but please talk, you need to keep some kind of presence in order to really be active. Master, I get that you are sick and it's your first game but please do try and post, lurking is usually pretty bad to do.
 
[X] Null
[X] Lynch Astaroh-M

Considering that Pawn's been spending his entire time being generally helpful and trying to help people learn the ropes, I think he's probably more likely Town than Astaroh is. Thus, moving my vote.
 
[X] Lynch Astaroh-M

I just think pawn is being helpful which a scum wouldn't do and I feel that Astaroh is way more suspicious than pawn.
 
Pawn's right. This is a quiet D1. I've had nothing I needed to comment on, so I haven't talked.

I will drop the meme, though.

[X]Null
 
[X] Lynch Astaroh-M

I just think pawn is being helpful which a scum wouldn't do and I feel that Astaroh is way more suspicious than pawn.
Pawn is totally helpful as scum. He was helpful as scum in witches, where he was paired with me. I was helpful as scum in witches, and helpful when I thought I was scum in the WH40k game.

For experienced players, being helpful is almost always going to be the default. It's not Bayesian evidence one way or the other, because it fails to actually differentiate between the two possible worldlines.

Essentially, pawn being helpful is not good evidence that he's town or good evidence that he's scum, much like how my posts here aren't very god evidence of my being town.
 
Right as I was about to push for atk50 for the same reasons pawn pointed out. Fair point is Pawn is resolute on not revealing because he feels it is a stronger town play to not do so, honestly I agree and can respect him for holding his guns. Do I like the strategy foresay? No, not really. But it shows a solid town read in this case.

[X] Lynch TheMaskedReader

My reasoning fall under this: Seems like a strange choice to pull pressure away from a train and instead direct towards another player, who both would have similar play styles to an extent. In addition since then we haven't heard anything from them. I don't like that coming from a more exp. player, makes me feel like he's fine with all the current options and doesn't care who dies. Now could be he's been hella busy but maybe some pressure will prompt a return?
 
So, in other news, I've decided that I'm going to draw a map of Moonton. I should have that done later this afternoon. Yes, I will update it with appropriate carnage as the game progresses.
 
Meh, I'll switch, Riki hasn't done anything sufficiently scummy yet.

[X] Null
[X] Lynch Astaroh-M
 
all have under 5 posts and again, I keep on seeing a few people look but not comment.
Yeah, sorry. I can't post from mobile, and so posting is limited to times when I'm not busy with something else on my computer.
My reasoning fall under this: Seems like a strange choice to pull pressure away from a train and instead direct towards another player, who both would have similar play styles to an extent. In addition since then we haven't heard anything from them. I don't like that coming from a more exp. player, makes me feel like he's fine with all the current options and doesn't care who dies. Now could be he's been hella busy but maybe some pressure will prompt a return?
I just thought that adding a vote onto the leading bandwagon wouldn't do much, and I'd rather put some more pressure on another player.

To be honest, I am pretty much fine with all current options. Pawn doesn't have any major scumtells, but he typically doesn't, given his many games worth of experience. Astorah hasn't left much of an impression on me, so I'd be fine with their lynch, too. However, I'm not going to throw my vote onto Astorah for fear of making a tie, while throwing a vote on Pawn would be somewhat redundant at this point, with them being the primary lynch. So, I'll keep my vote where it is.

As for any speculation: Given the flavor of the OP, I suspect cults of some nature to feature heavily either in the flavor or in the roles of the game. I'm getting some serious Old One summoning vibes from the whole 'gash in reality'.
 
Yeah, sorry. I can't post from mobile, and so posting is limited to times when I'm not busy with something else on my computer.

I just thought that adding a vote onto the leading bandwagon wouldn't do much, and I'd rather put some more pressure on another player.

To be honest, I am pretty much fine with all current options. Pawn doesn't have any major scumtells, but he typically doesn't, given his many games worth of experience. Astorah hasn't left much of an impression on me, so I'd be fine with their lynch, too. However, I'm not going to throw my vote onto Astorah for fear of making a tie, while throwing a vote on Pawn would be somewhat redundant at this point, with them being the primary lynch. So, I'll keep my vote where it is.

As for any speculation: Given the flavor of the OP, I suspect cults of some nature to feature heavily either in the flavor or in the roles of the game. I'm getting some serious Old One summoning vibes from the whole 'gash in reality'.
Um, Astaroh's currently in the lead for the lynch. Just thought you'd like to know.
 
[X] Null
[X] Lynch Astaroh-M

Considering that Pawn's been spending his entire time being generally helpful and trying to help people learn the ropes, I think he's probably more likely Town than Astaroh is. Thus, moving my vote.
Being helpful doesn't mean much though, you can perfectly help other people to understand the game and target them at night.
 
As for any speculation: Given the flavor of the OP, I suspect cults of some nature to feature heavily either in the flavor or in the roles of the game. I'm getting some serious Old One summoning vibes from the whole 'gash in reality'.
Good. We want the Old One in question. You don't? What are you, one of them interlopers?
 
Yeah, I mean, the entire point of Moonton being where it is, is to summon the Old Moon.

...Wait, I just realized. What if there's a scum group who wants to take over the ritual to summon a different Old God? That would be a complete disaster!
 
As for any speculation: Given the flavor of the OP, I suspect cults of some nature to feature heavily either in the flavor or in the roles of the game. I'm getting some serious Old One summoning vibes from the whole 'gash in reality'.

Good. We want the Old One in question. You don't? What are you, one of them interlopers?

Yeah I agree, this is (to me) the most sus activity we've had so far.

[X] Null
[X] Lynch TheMaskedReader
 
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