Petals of Titanium -- My Life as a Mecha Setting Bridge Bunny Quest

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"The Guardswoman seems to have the ear of her highness," Andrei says, quietly. "I hope you understand that working with her comes with an… opportunity."
Neato. I figured something like this would come up.
"Begging your pardon, ma'am?" Everyone in the room turns around in some shock -- one of the civilians from the corner of the room has drifted ahead of his group, hand raised almost sheepishly, smiling in a way that's both attractive and somewhat slippery looking. "Begging your pardon, ma'am," he says again, hurriedly, seeing the guards already moving in to silence him, "But, I may know something about where your Rose is headed. Or was, before they ran into this new ship."

"Do you now?" Chavez asks, voice thick with suspicion. The young man in front of her is currently riding a knife's edge between being rewarded, or being hurt.

"Yes, ma'am," the young man says, outwardly full of confidence. "My name is Lee -- I'm the… 'delegate' from Quetzle station."
Heh!

Can't say I'm at all surprised about this; we* didn't do much to endear them to us, and I suspect that for them it's more a case of "meet the new empire, same as the old empire".

*Strictly speaking, I wasn't here when it happened, but you know what I mean.
Mosi is too zealous for my taste but I see that the nobles in the Holy Sol Empire don't take the divine very seriously. Are the nobles sided with Hole Sol empire really believe in their Ideals about divinity? How can they support the "Chosen Divine" in the first place if they can joke about their nation's core Ideology?

I smell foul conspiracies behind this religious movement spearheaded by the "Chosen Divine"
Similarly, I'd say this is more a case of upbringing than any particular conspiracy. Mosi North was still in school when the civil war broke out, so she would be easily indoctrinated with the new regime's ideology.

Conversely, the other officers are almost certainly old guard - already soldiers when His Divine Majesty took power, with the appropriate level of cynicism attached. For them, the change in regime is just a new name on the payslip.


As for the vote, from a meta perspective, it depends on how exactly this setting runs. In an anime, new / experimental / prototype technologies tend to provide superlative performance, though possibly with one or more significant drawbacks. In the real world, they might do so... but they'll probably be full of bugs.

I can't think of any other reasons that haven't already been covered by other posters, so...

[X] Continue to splice together your scan data with the Lily's, but prioritising the Rose's data
 
[X] Continue to splice together your scan data with the Lily's, but prioritising the Rose's data
 
[X] Continue to splice together your scan data with the Lily's, but prioritising the Rose's data

This seems like exactly the sort of thing we're here to make a decision about, and I don't see a better decision.
 
Can't say I'm at all surprised about this; we* didn't do much to endear them to us, and I suspect that for them it's more a case of "meet the new empire, same as the old empire".

*Strictly speaking, I wasn't here when it happened, but you know what I mean.

Honstly given that he was kind of a sketchy sleazeball I wouldn't be hugely shocked if he'd have done this essentially no matter what.
 
[X] Continue to splice together your scan data with the Lily's, but prioritising the Rose's data

This update makes me wonder...
Is the empire military heavily runs on nepotism before the civil war? I see those in command are mostly highborn.
Is it a noble tradition to serve in the military? and How many noble lines are needed to command the whole fleet of United Sol Empire Fleet?

Mosi is too zealous for my taste but I see that the nobles in the Holy Sol Empire don't take the divine very seriously. Are the nobles sided with Hole Sol empire really believe in their Ideals about divinity? How can they support the "Chosen Divine" in the first place if they can joke about their nation's core Ideology?

I smell foul conspiracies behind this religious movement spearheaded by the "Chosen Divine"

Similarly, I'd say this is more a case of upbringing than any particular conspiracy. Mosi North was still in school when the civil war broke out, so she would be easily indoctrinated with the new regime's ideology.

Conversely, the other officers are almost certainly old guard - already soldiers when His Divine Majesty took power, with the appropriate level of cynicism attached. For them, the change in regime is just a new name on the payslip.
There likely are a certain number of the officials and officers in the Holy Empire who sided the way they did for their own ambition or because they saw the way the winds were blowing, but there are also a lot of genuine believers in the military. The specific thing about that interaction is that Mosi is touting the party line that, not only is the imperial family divinely selected, but also therefore high command must be as well by proxy, as long as they're working in service to the emperor. Career front line mecha pilots are skeptical of this even if the emperor is also a warrior space pope who they believe in.

The military is under the control of the state, with the officer corps of both empires and virtually all of the highest positions taken up by the aristocracy or at least wealthy families with status or connections. Nepotism is rampant. Certain powerful families might be allowed to maintain their own forces beyond that of ordinary civilian groups, but by design nothing in the numbers or potency to actually launch an insurrection just based on that. The aristocracy is at this point a social elite as well as a system of land ownership more than feudal warlords. Knighthood is primarily a martial institution, though.
Adhoc vote count started by Gazetteer on Jun 6, 2018 at 12:35 PM, finished with 51 posts and 38 votes.

Adhoc vote count started by Gazetteer on Jun 7, 2018 at 1:57 PM, finished with 55 posts and 39 votes.
 
Of course the thing about knightly orders is that they tended to have very high barriers to entry. Both in terms of equipment and in the training you were expected to have gone through before you formally joined. So I would expect that the overwhelming majority of mecha pilots are from noble families, because they are the ones who can afford to buy training equipment and hire instructors to teach their children. The remainder are either one in a million prodigies or people who impressed a noble enough to sponsor them, probably both.
 
As for the vote, from a meta perspective, it depends on how exactly this setting runs. In an anime, new / experimental / prototype technologies tend to provide superlative performance, though possibly with one or more significant drawbacks. In the real world, they might do so... but they'll probably be full of bugs.

In anime these bugs only happen when they utterly fuck you.
 
Sure lets follow regulation and not make as many friends as possible with the civilians. I'm sure that wont come back to bite us in the ass, not at all.

OH NO

I hope this will influence us in the future to go more with "make friends and connections" and less with "BUT MILITARY THO". The things that make a military effective in reality are probably not going to help us pull out a really good ending to this story. I think its clear by this point that by various coincidences we actually can cause some fairly big ripples. From now on I really think we should be more willing to dodge protocol (like this more recent choice with Faiza) in the name of future benefits (mostly allies).
I mean obviously we should avoid getting demoted or court martialed, but beyond that, lets do what we can.

As for THIS decision... I honestly don't know. the minor difference here feels like its something that could really mess us up, so I'm gonna go with my above ideals and trust our recently improved-by-Faiza sensors.

[X] Continue to splice together your scan data with the Lily's, but prioritising the Rose's data
 
Sure lets follow regulation and not make as many friends as possible with the civilians. I'm sure that wont come back to bite us in the ass, not at all.

OH NO

I hope this will influence us in the future to go more with "make friends and connections" and less with "BUT MILITARY THO". The things that make a military effective in reality are probably not going to help us pull out a really good ending to this story.

A lot of those people aren't going to respect us if we slack off at work. I mean I get where you're coming from and agree that social stuff is important, but it's key to balance. We don't want to overwhelm the field with social stuff any more than we want to overwhelm it with work stuff as you note, we're putting all our eggs into one basket. And I'm really not convinced we're at the point that not enough social is at the start of being a major problem.
 
Sure lets follow regulation and not make as many friends as possible with the civilians. I'm sure that wont come back to bite us in the ass, not at all.

OH NO

I hope this will influence us in the future to go more with "make friends and connections" and less with "BUT MILITARY THO". The things that make a military effective in reality are probably not going to help us pull out a really good ending to this story. I think its clear by this point that by various coincidences we actually can cause some fairly big ripples. From now on I really think we should be more willing to dodge protocol (like this more recent choice with Faiza) in the name of future benefits (mostly allies).
I mean obviously we should avoid getting demoted or court martialed, but beyond that, lets do what we can.

As for THIS decision... I honestly don't know. the minor difference here feels like its something that could really mess us up, so I'm gonna go with my above ideals and trust our recently improved-by-Faiza sensors.

[X] Continue to splice together your scan data with the Lily's, but prioritising the Rose's data

You realize that giving the civvies more information could just as easily backfire? Lee is giving our enemies what he knows, but if we had given him more information, that might have just let him feed even more information to them. It was a gamble either way, and it's impossible for us to know what the right choice was, if there even was an objective right choice.
 
Honestly I kinda feel like we could really use something wild like Ito going 3v1 and winning to point out to us 'THIS IS SHONEN!' or something likje that. Like...
The setting's SUPPOSED to be hopeful but if we do too much in the way of following orders and not being a decent person we just end up one of those guys who gets spaced for Anja to get her own knighthood...
 
There likely are a certain number of the officials and officers in the Holy Empire who sided the way they did for their own ambition or because they saw the way the winds were blowing, but there are also a lot of genuine believers in the military. The specific thing about that interaction is that Mosi is touting the party line that, not only is the imperial family divinely selected, but also therefore high command must be as well by proxy, as long as they're working in service to the emperor. Career front line mecha pilots are skeptical of this even if the emperor is also a warrior space pope who they believe in.
I wonder what kind of propaganda they use to influence the masses...
Honestly I kinda feel like we could really use something wild like Ito going 3v1 and winning to point out to us 'THIS IS SHONEN!' or something likje that. Like...
Like... Kazuki Inaho pulling ass with his 'Training Mech' against Superior Ancient Alien Mech piloted by sassy human Martian aristocrats? That is too shounen for my taste...

The setting's SUPPOSED to be hopeful but if we do too much in the way of following orders and not being a decent person we just end up one of those guys who gets spaced for Anja to get her own knighthood...
Hopeful Setting:
- Succession Crisis that leads the whole solar system to a Bloody Civil War
- An Idealist Princess that loves her countrymen versus A mentally challenged prince that claim himself as a Divine
- Our character has only one friend confirmed (for now)
- A mother far from her two daughters with one of them having deep hatred on her
- An Irritating and unreliable co-worker
- Sisters fighting from both sides of the war
:whistle: These are not hopeful...

But, I agree, if we do too much in the way of following orders we may end up as another Slaine Troyard. We have a bunch of nice guys around us; Ito, Anja, Perbeck, Faiza, Nowak, Andre, and that person that sometimes command the ship that I forgot his name. Let's use them befriend them and win this through social manipulation the power of friendship!
 
I wonder what kind of propaganda they use to influence the masses...

Like... Kazuki Inaho pulling ass with his 'Training Mech' against Superior Ancient Alien Mech piloted by sassy human Martian aristocrats? That is too shounen for my taste...


Hopeful Setting:
- Succession Crisis that leads the whole solar system to a Bloody Civil War
- An Idealist Princess that loves her countrymen versus A mentally challenged prince that claim himself as a Divine
- Our character has only one friend confirmed (for now)
- A mother far from her two daughters with one of them having deep hatred on her
- An Irritating and unreliable co-worker
- Sisters fighting from both sides of the war
:whistle: These are not hopeful...

But, I agree, if we do too much in the way of following orders we may end up as another Slaine Troyard. We have a bunch of nice guys around us; Ito, Anja, Perbeck, Faiza, Nowak, Andre, and that person that sometimes command the ship that I forgot his name. Let's use them befriend them and win this through social manipulation the power of friendship!

Please do not bring in the garbage fire that is Aldnoah Zero into this thread. This is a far better mecha story than that.
 
I wonder what kind of propaganda they use to influence the masses...
I'm picturing something like this as His Divine Majesty, personally.

Which brings forth a question: If His Divine Majesty is Gendo, does that make Her Imperial Majesty Yui?

Honestly I kinda feel like we could really use something wild like Ito going 3v1 and winning to point out to us 'THIS IS SHONEN!' or something likje that. Like...
The setting's SUPPOSED to be hopeful but if we do too much in the way of following orders and not being a decent person we just end up one of those guys who gets spaced for Anja to get her own knighthood...
I'd rather not tbh. I quite enjoy the more grounded nature of this setting as presented so far, and find shonen battles to be frankly ridiculous in any modern or SF context.

Also, I don't think Ito's been established as being that good. Survive, probably, but win? Doubtful.

I do agree with the calls for balance, though. I can only speculate what might happen when we finally get to Iapetus and regroup with the Imperial fleet, but as in most warfare, I expect the combination of a smoothly integrated and functioning crew, and a robust and reliable war machine, to be the key to our side's victory.
Hopeful Setting:
- Succession Crisis that leads the whole solar system to a Bloody Civil War
- An Idealist Princess that loves her countrymen versus A mentally challenged prince that claim himself as a Divine
- Our character has only one friend confirmed (for now)
- A mother far from her two daughters with one of them having deep hatred on her
- An Irritating and unreliable co-worker
- Sisters fighting from both sides of the war
:whistle: These are not hopeful...

But, I agree, if we do too much in the way of following orders we may end up as another Slaine Troyard. We have a bunch of nice guys around us; Ito, Anja, Perbeck, Faiza, Nowak, Andre, and that person that sometimes command the ship that I forgot his name. Let's use them befriend them and win this through social manipulation the power of friendship!
Yeah, it's not quite Iron-Blooded Orphans levels, but I don't expect this war to be won through the power of friendship alone. (Advancing ourselves through the power of friendship, on the other hand, is perfectly feasible.)

We're already doing a lot better than Slaine, though. We're a valued member of a warship's crew, with specialized skills and generally good relations with our coworkers, who gets to be in charge of people!

By contrast, Slaine was trained to be a pilot (despite being an untrustworthy Terran dog), but apparently had no real role in the Martian hierarchy except for hanging around whichever noble was in favour that week.
 
Update 014: Strawberry
Continue to splice together your scan data with the Lily's, but prioritising the Rose's data, 34 votes.

Continue to splice together your scan data with the Lily's, prioritising the Lily's data, 3 votes.

Use only the Rose's scan data, 1 vote.

You shift settings on the scan feeds, prioritising the Rose's data. The 3D scan map on your display blurs and then refocuses, looking identical to before. You've gotten out ahead of any actual conflicts between the two scan systems.

"Li," First Officer Grayson says, glancing back at Anja, "keep Perbeck informed."

"Yes, sir," Anja chirps. "That is why you keep me around."

"Well, it's certainly not for your personality, Ensign," Grayson says, without turning around. His voice is dry, but strained. You get the distinct impression Anja is resisting the urge to respond, but your attention is firmly on your own workstation.

Long minutes go past, with you squinting at your display, as if this will make the object snap into proper focus. If it works, it takes its time -- it takes at least half an hour. "It's a ship, sir," you decide. "A damaged one. It's leaking radiation like crazy."

"... The Lily says the same," Mazlo agrees, after listening into his earpiece.

"Anything else beyond 'a ship?'" Grayson asks, a little dryly.

"... An Empire class supply freighter," you reply, frowning at the data you're seeing. "Flying Auxiliary colours. The ATS Strawberry. There's no active distress beacon, but the radiation may be obscuring the signal."

"Any chance of survivors?" Grayson asks, grimly. The Merchant Auxiliary are civilian traders in peacetime, vital support ships during times of war. Not strictly navy, but close enough for the loss to feel personal.

"Impossible to say until I know what the damage looks like," you say, cautiously. Your gut tells you no.

"The Lily says that the radiation levels aren't survivable," Mazlo says, a little smugly. As if he's the one who showed you up.

Frowning, you glance at your scan map, then at the raw data from the Lily. Technically speaking, the numbers you have now do indicate that… if they're accurate at this distance, and constant throughout the wreck, and if there's nothing providing additional radiation shielding you're not aware of. Humans in space are unbelievably fragile, but the thin line between alive and dead has more wiggle room than some people credit.

"We'll know for sure when our course brings us closer," Grayson remarks.

A suspicion begins to settle in the pit of your stomach. You know that the Lily doesn't have a regular crew so much as an assortment of technical officers thrown together on extremely short notice, who had the fortune of being dragged into the ship as it fled the top secret R&D station. Engineers, laboratory researchers. While you are aware that your counterpart on the Lily outranks you, has been with the navy longer and likely has more education than you, on paper, you're willing to bet that her experience and training lies heavily in the direction of textbooks and controlled testing environments. There's plenty of work for scan specialists in research and development, but while it might prepare one to operate the scan suite of a warship, it does not necessarily make that person adept at the fuzzier nuances of the job.

As you drift closer, this suspicion is reinforced. As the freighter's silent, tumbling hulk crosses closer and closer to your vector, the scan data of the radiation pattern is highly characteristic. The Menschy radiation in those levels almost always indicates a kinetic barrier failure from an overwhelming outside force. The scans are also getting detailed enough to detect a rupture in the hull, meaning…

"The Lily says catastrophic reactor malfunction," Mazlo relays, and you stop up short.

"So, that was an accident? Poor ship maintenance?" Grayson shakes his head, grimacing. "Hell of a way to go out here." Despite this sympathetic response, though, there's a certain relaxing of his shoulders. Part of him is relieved, and you don't blame him. Except, he's not right to be.

"Sir," you interject, carefully, "The reactor radiation is, I believe, incidental. That failure likely happened after the ship was struck by a high speed projectile, enough to punch cleanly through its shields and still have enough energy to breach the hull on the other side. I believe that this is battle damage."

Grayson frowns, a little taken aback. He looks at you, consideringly, as if deciding whether or not to make an issue out of this. Evidently, your expression wins him over. "Mazlo, please put the Lily on call."

A short moment later, the main screen switches to an image of captain Patel, with a smaller screen showing the perpetually-distracted looking woman you recognise as your counterpart. "Hello, Lieutenant Grayson," Patel says. "You say there's a problem?"

"Yes, sir," Grayson says, respectfully. "Ensign North believes that the Strawberry was sunk by battle damage."

Captain Patel glances to the side at this, frowning, and your counterpart looks up, irritated. "Ensign North is mistaken," she says. The Lieutenant insignia on her uniform seem to stand out particularly prominently, catching the light as she moves. "Perhaps the Rose's scan systems are not sophisticated enough to note this, but the ship is cloaked in residual reactor radiation -- it almost certainly had its containment and coolant systems compromised. This would also account for the Menschy radiation. I've seen runaway reactors before, Ensign."

You keep your features carefully neutral, thinking. You're suddenly incredibly grateful that you kept both sets of data running on your screen -- Grayson is looking at you like he's going to give you a chance to respond, but you'd feel much worse about things if you had had to take a guess in the dark. "I have the Lily's raw scan data in front of me, ma'am," you say, carefully, giving a slight smile that is just uncomfortable enough to convey to her how much you regret correcting her like this. "I respectfully suggest that you apply an A17 filter, and compare it to the standard shield penetration models. It is my belief that the reactor radiation is confusing your sensors, unfiltered."

Her expression is skeptical at first, as if humouring you while she adds the filter to her scan output, but in quick order, her face colours. "... I see," she says, mortified. "I apologise, sir," she tells Captain Patel, "The ensign is correct." What you suggested are standard techniques for quickly refining data in the field like this, and she most certainly learned them in specialist training -- however, they're useless for anything approaching serious research. Your suspicion that this is the first time she's been in anything like a front line position deepens into absolute certainty.

"I see," Patel says, face grim. "Thank you for bringing this to our attention, Lieutenant Grayson. We will be proceeding at level two battle stations."

"Certainly, sir," Grayson rumbles back. As the direct call ends, he follows suit, issuing the now all too familiar shipwide call to assume level two battle stations. You know that whatever amount of sleep Captain Andre managed to get is about to be interrupted.

--​

"No signs of life from the wreck," J6 says, her flat voice filling the bridge. The visual feed of the ship from one of her unit's drones is heartbreaking -- the hull rupture is massive, and appears to punch cleanly through multiple crew decks. Most of the crew would have died almost instantly, with the survivors killed by the reactor malfunction, accounting for your series of events. "I am picking up an automated distress signal, as well as something else. Relaying to you now, Rose."

"Mazlo, what does it look like?" Captain Andre asks, having taken up her usual spot once Grayson had vacated it. She's alert, but her eyes have the twitchy quality you come to associate with heavy emergency-stim use from your specialist training. She'll pay for that later.

"It's an encoded message piggybacked to the distress signal. Standard imperial encryption." He rolls out his shoulders, fatigue clear in his thin features. You and Captain Andre aren't the only ones onboard running on fumes -- he's likely been working a lot of extra shifts in order to coordinate things with the Lily while you've been overseeing the scan repairs. By luck of the draw, the other ship doesn't have a communications officer with Mazlo's qualifications. "I'll have it readable in a few minutes, ma'am," he promises.

This proves to be optimistic. Time goes by excruciatingly slowly, as the two ships' vectors bring them closer and closer to the wreck. You're still not seeing anything hostile on your scan feeds, but everyone's on edge.

"Is there a problem, Sub-Lieutenant?" Andre asks, looking pointedly at Mazlo.

"I… I have the decryption done, ma'am," he says, slowly, tearing his eyes away from the screen for a moment. "But I… there's something with this cipher… I'm almost certain this contains coordinates. It's formatted like a rendezvous."

"Will it be much longer?" Andre asks, frowning. Captain Patel is waiting on the intelligence, as Mazlo well knows, and if this really is a set of coordinates for a rendezvous the Strawberry was to make with an escort fleet, that could greatly alleviate some of your immediate danger.

"No, ma'am," he says, but sweat is clustering obviously on his brow.

As the minutes continue to tick by, you can't help yourself -- you steal a glance over at his display, a familiar interface showing there as he attempts to run the cipher through various programs, each time turning out something that isn't quite usable.

With a flash of secondhand embarrassment, you realise why. It's a naval cipher he's using, but a tricky one, almost identical to another, much more common variety. Perhaps as a result, he has his basic settings wrong -- he's decoding for the incorrect cipher. A mistake he likely wouldn't be making if he were a little better rested. You only recognise the difference because you read a book on the history of this cipher family last month. Obviously, you have to rectify this situation, sooner rather than later but it's different from the shipwreck. This is Mazlo's job, not yours, no one is actively calling on you to explain, and It's a simple mistake -- he'll be able to fix the problem once he realises what the problem actually is.

How do you handle it?

[ ] Quietly send Mazlo a message alerting him to his mistake without embarrassing him

[ ] Tell him about his mistake out loud, drawing attention to it

[ ] Do it yourself while he's still stuck
 
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[X] Tell him about his mistake out loud, drawing attention to it
Adhoc vote count started by Thors_Alumni on Jun 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, finished with 99 posts and 56 votes.
 
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[X] Quietly send Mazlo a message alerting him to his mistake without embarrassing him

There's no call to embarrass the guy, no matter how we feel about him.
 
Well, last time we tried to give him a boost, he demanded all credit.

Loudly gainsaying him won't actually accomplish anything in the long run, since he's irreplaceable on paper, even if we force it through, we get censured for making him look bad and not doing it by the book, even if we're right, we eat shit for it because they don't care about being right if we had to jump the chain of command to be right.

Might as well let him fuck it up or prove he deserves his rank. Hopefully he doesn't lead us into a toolbox though without us at least being able to discreetly contact the captain, or someone who can jump rank.
 
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[X] Do it yourself while he's still stuck

Correcting him will piss him off regardless, he won't give us any credit.
Might as well make sure its done right. I don't care a whole lot about credit, but getting the correct details, yes I do.
 
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