We have a charge now, a charge over the next year, and another charge over the ten months after that. One of those should be on the Heroine, one on Avolen, and one can go to the Tomb if we want.
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Pretty sure we can't use a charge until a year has passed since we used the old one. Since the Heroine goes active 10 months after we use the second one we can only use that second one to find her if we wish to catch her before she becomes aware of the danger she is in and the Fates guide her to a pocket dimension we can't access or spirit her away into the past.
Your beliefs are, however, incorrect:
It's once a calendar year. The ten months are almost certainly sufficient for a refresh.
Ah. OK maybe. I guess we'll see. But that reminds me, did we ever find out if True Incarnation protects against the loss of selfhood and sanity from casting Cerebration? Because it sounds like it should, and if so that is another reason for why we absolutely need it. Unlimited Cerebration would be crazy useful.
Salty
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Mmmnah, Rihaku woulda been clear if such an obviously broken interaction existed. Cerebration's drawbacks aren't a mental attack (which is what True Incarnation protects against), they're the price paid for casting the spell.
Cerebrations reads sound more like a side-effect of casting your mind into the cosmos than a deliberate sacrifice to me:
Sounds to me like the mind is damaged by seeing Things Man Was Not Meant To Know and drifting through the celestial spheres. That is why i thought True Incarnation might apply to this.
Of course, Cerebretion also costs "strength" on top of self and sanity, which exponentially escalates when the spell is cast multiple times, so it probably wouldn't be entirely free even if True Incarnation works on it.
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OctarineShrike
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[x]Pursuit of the Truth
[x]Strategic Complexion
[x]Open the Way
[x]Amplification
[x]Strategic Complexion
[x]Open the Way
[x]Amplification
Rihaku
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6 votes is entirely within the realm of arguments and omakes to overturn... the person who generated 1+ BPs via PM is voting for Amplification too!
To clarify, the reason I refrained from posting the piece in the thread (other than it not being done) was actually because I intended to save the influence for a more contentious vote. My preference here isn't that strong.
Great, happy that at least one of my preferences has a chance of victory then
(well, two actually, Pursuit seems pretty solid).
OctarineShrike
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[X] I'll Face Myself
[X] Pursuit of the Truth
[X] Open the Way
[X] Amplification
[X] I'll Face Myself
[X] Pursuit of the Truth
[X] Open the Way
[X] Amplification
RedV
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It's just a four vote difference. We can swing it around now! I want it because Amplification is usable by non-Nameless people too, which is useful if Yong Shen can shatter and re-take his dao and then use truespell multipliers to advance while we are not Cultivating and hence getting 90% of the benefits of doing so from the Veil of Maya while saving our time for Necromancer / Diagram research.
Enohthree
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I still seriously prefer TrueSpelling something that has to do with bodily enhancement, since its a vector that shows serious benefit when made conceptually 'absolute' like with True Might basically rendering us unkillable by any level of non-exotic force. An absolute effect relating to 'make Nameless the best version of himself biologically' firmly seems like its in that wheelhouse.
He has to be cultivating but also distracted, and we need to be within the same city as him unless we're flaring it across the whole empire. This doesn't seem like a viable strategy to advance by, since both of those conditions are unlikely to be fulfilled at the same time when we could be doing so many things in so many places.
RedV
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I mean, conceptually I view Amplification as the option where we can make the Energy that makes up our Cultivation base more absolute than normal. That should be a big change, if we're going to speculate about making X conceptual effect.
Cultivation is, after all, much more "the channeling of EoAN into a human form" than the body which only helps in Organ Refining and Titanic Breakthrough.
Immortal Techniques explicitly channel EoAN so anything that makes us better at interfacing with it is superior choice in my mind. The principles of Amplification are to multiply the Energy that exists in one's Cultivation base, which sounds much better than better control over one's body for one's Cultivation, which is major signifier of the Nameless Yong's strength.
Cultivation is, after all, much more "the channeling of EoAN into a human form" than the body which only helps in Organ Refining and Titanic Breakthrough.
Immortal Techniques explicitly channel EoAN so anything that makes us better at interfacing with it is superior choice in my mind. The principles of Amplification are to multiply the Energy that exists in one's Cultivation base, which sounds much better than better control over one's body for one's Cultivation, which is major signifier of the Nameless Yong's strength.
Give it to Suizhen then. Basic strategy that Ampli increases our Cultivation speed still works.
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