Even Further Beyond [Complete]
- Thread starter Rihaku
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- Original
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Palimpsest Form of the Elder Beast is a x2.2 multiplier, which cuts the times down to 3.83 years to reach IA and 49.28 to master it.
A second x1.2 multiplier on top of that would get the times down to 3.19 years to reach IA and 41.07 to master it.
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If we assume Xiaoling is a X1.2 multiplier, the Princess is a X1.4 multiplier, and we get Palimpsest Form of Balance, another X1.4 multiplier, then our net multiplier would be x2.352, enough to reach peak stage 7 and start breaking into IA in 3.58 years.
With just the Princess and Form of Balance, it'd be 4.3 years, by way of comparison.
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Origami Clock
Right twice a day
- Location
- Brighton, UK
[x] Do It For Her
[x] Green Eyes
[x] Green Eyes
- Location
- Canada
[X] Stay the Course
[X] Green Eyes
[X] Green Eyes
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
This is Rihaku. Do you doubt that each of the nickname choices is going to have a potent benefit with an incredible blurb gated behind it?
Although I'd conservatively estimate Xiaoling as a x1.2 , it could very easily be a x1.4, as it's described as a moderate bonus, and Palimpsest - From of Balance gae a moderate bonus to all physical actions, which corresponded to a 40% increase in Cultivation speed.
We'd be best off having the Princess help us design a superior Form of the Elder Beast including whatever insights Xiaoling has developed, and seeing if we can't get something like 1.4x1.4x2.2 multiplier. A x4.3 multiplier would be a very good start before we hit the Tomb of the Netherine.
We still really need EFB Cultivation though.
If you read the previous updates it's certainly possible that they were sleeping together and Rihaku was being tasteful about it.
She's an undiminished elf. Killing or betraying one person to save many others isn't the kind of moral calculus we've seen as being possible for them. They're not utilitarians at all.
And the reason that being able to credibly pre-commit is because we know that the Fates are fully capable of significant mental interference in the future to sabotage him and force him to take sub-optimal choices. We may be choosing the lesser of two evils here, in your mind, but this is very, very much lesser.
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[X] Do It For Her
[X] Lovey-Dovey
[X] Lovey-Dovey
Sasuke - what? What does Sasuke have to do with jealousy? He is pretty much the archetypical Avenger, not a jealous girl.
No. What i want is for Xiaoling to stay relevant enough and well liked enough by Nameless that she can potentially be a counterweight to someone who i believe does not and cannot by her nature have our best interests at heart. Quite frankly, without a major buff like the Green Eyes Xiaoling is obsolete at this point, her social skills and wealth are being outmatched by the Princess, so she needs a new area of focus so Nameless doesn't completely lose his connection with her.
Suizhen is far too loyal to Nameless to be a useful counterweight against the new girl, and she sucks at social besides. Xiaoling is our second. I want her angry enough at the Princess that she will point out when she is manipulating us, as well as useful enough that Nameless can't just dismiss her out of hand because of his love.
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Thanks. A few loose multipliers might reduce the pain of not getting a Vault.
But... here's the thing.
[X] To Pierce Heaven
I want to see what an optimized Extrusion entails! We paid a lot of opportunity cost to get that thing, and I don't want it to look like our homebrew spells when we could get something on par with Baen's best. (to use an example)
I mean, I have no reason to believe that this configuration has no Security score, so it can probably attenuate Fate within its borders. Borders which are now structurally indistinguishable from our Ego Barrier.
Enohthree
Hypersane
What on earth is with all the votes for Do It For Her?
It's the option from before, but without the massive benefits of +8 loyalty and heavensent powerups to keep her in our weightclass.
Contrary to quite a few claims it is not saying that it would grant Lieutenant status to her!
Fated Love is a risk, sure, but quite frankly its one that we can fight without binding ourselves a different way. Plus our wife would be in ceaseless love for us, and has Ring effects that can snap us out of Heroic Passions if need be. She'd probably be willing to put in the effort to keep us from straying at our own request, to put it lightly.
We also shouldn't be turning our nose at every single option that gives us Beyond Points just because 'that's what fate wants us to do' like we've never done something like that ever. Remember how we sent off Tyranshall without sight or sound despite the fact that fate was rewarding us to do so? We can't be throwing away every option they somewhat approve of for just that reason, not when we're currently exploiting a massive bonus to all actions that fall within parameters so we can boostrap our own power growth.
It's the option from before, but without the massive benefits of +8 loyalty and heavensent powerups to keep her in our weightclass.
Contrary to quite a few claims it is not saying that it would grant Lieutenant status to her!
Fated Love is a risk, sure, but quite frankly its one that we can fight without binding ourselves a different way. Plus our wife would be in ceaseless love for us, and has Ring effects that can snap us out of Heroic Passions if need be. She'd probably be willing to put in the effort to keep us from straying at our own request, to put it lightly.
We also shouldn't be turning our nose at every single option that gives us Beyond Points just because 'that's what fate wants us to do' like we've never done something like that ever. Remember how we sent off Tyranshall without sight or sound despite the fact that fate was rewarding us to do so? We can't be throwing away every option they somewhat approve of for just that reason, not when we're currently exploiting a massive bonus to all actions that fall within parameters so we can boostrap our own power growth.
- Location
- Philippines
He was, way back. Like, Chuunin Exam kinda way back. Sasuke prided himself as a Genius, and as the best fighter on Team 7. Dead Last Naruto, somehow someway, power levelled his ass and legitimately rivalled (probably even surpassed) Sasuke's combat ability then. Him being all bitter and shit about it would signal bouts of Jealousy too. Just so happened that he always had the Avenger trope to fall back on, so it didn't really get a lot of light until after their last battle where they blew their arms to bits.
Blackmarch
Pidgeon of the Highest Quality.
- Location
- Eating your bread crumbs. Preserving your souls.
[X] Do It For Her
[X] Lovey-Dovey
[X] Lovey-Dovey
[X] Do It For Her
[X] Lovey-Dovey
*Sigh* The Best Girl did not win so I'll just have to make do with this inferior Elven senior.
[X] Lovey-Dovey
*Sigh* The Best Girl did not win so I'll just have to make do with this inferior Elven senior.
I see Xiaoling and Shuizen as sunk cost fallacy thought.
Research made us have a shot at 0.5 stage of true incarnation or Azure flare.
The sword voter should realize by now what the hole they duck themselves in.
I just want to salvage something with diagram when we don't go monster vault that help us atleast 2 stage/4 power at 1 year timeskip.
Yeah I have no idea where that's coming from. We've already got two Sasukes, now we're seeing if we can get two Sakuras.
Personally, I would prefer to conquer heaven. Shuck our fated demise and our hand-me-down vengeance, crush the Winter Labyrinth and its mortal arms, and then overturn the order of the Fates via their wish. Institute an Age without season by freeing them from their power and nature - curse them to walk All Paths as we do, until each knows their folly or nothing remains of them at all.
After all, the cruelest thing you can do to a megalomaniac is to force them to live forever without power.
Hn. I've always seen this through the lense of his Avenger tendencies. That he hated being surpassed by the dead last ninja because it showed he was nowhere near ready to take on Itachi. He wasn't jealous of Narutos power growth, but afraid that he was falling behind his brother.
Enohthree
Hypersane
Suizhen has, if literally nothing else, given us roughly 3 BP and a decent amount of cash, more than the death of the super loyal dude would have given us as his secret skill. She has yet to actually start accelerating as well, all of this is pre 'fantastical flashes of insight that start next year that send her power skyrocketing' she's supposed to get once the heroine awakens.
This option offers the ability for Xiaoling to toss us a cultivation multiplier. It's literally a pay off to us, its not a sunken cost if this is the option that actually pays you back for your investment.
The Oath doesn't make us any more susceptible to the Aurelia though.
To be honest, the Xiaoling option plus the Oath might be the best combination in terms of Nameless' power level. Aurelia's assistance with Diagram Magic is probably also the best chance of getting decent new spells there as well.
Extrusion was a serious gamble, and now we pretty much need to go all in on finding Cultivation multipliers. We only need another x100 worth of multipliers...