[X] Claim the boy as your "partner". Ozpin said something about teams and you're not going to come back first only to find out that you "needed to do it as a team" or some nonsense like that.
Adhoc vote count started by TheNotoriousSMP on Feb 28, 2018 at 10:20 AM, finished with 128 posts and 53 votes.
 
That matches perfectly, though? Patroclus, brother of Achilles not by blood, but by choice. And Alexandros and Aivas are Paris and Ajax respectively. Hektor is obviously Hector.

It says " if not", which unless I'm misunderstanding this formulation because this is my second language, tells us that they are related by blood and would still be even if they weren't.
 
It says " if not", which unless I'm misunderstanding this formulation because this is my second language, tells us that they are related by blood and would still be even if they weren't.

Nah, that should be implying that they aren't siblings by blood, although they might be step siblings (and maybe have some degree of blood relation)

Which does seem to fit the myth

Hektor - Pretty decent guy. It's a shame you had to put him into a hospital, but he should have been more careful around Philia, yeah

So I can't decide if this suggest that he hurt Philia in a fight, or he and Philia were in a relationship of some form and had a bad split. Leaning hard on the former since we'd probably dislike him more if he was Phila's ex.
 
It says " if not", which unless I'm misunderstanding this formulation because this is my second language, tells us that they are related by blood and would still be even if they weren't.
It's sort of contextual. "If not" is generally the same as 'though not', but can be used to imply that the person actually may be something or other in some situations.

"We're family by choice, if not blood" is the former. "He looks like a shady sort, if not a criminal" can be the former, if you're conceding that a person isn't necessarily a criminal, or it can be the later, if you're using it to suggest that his being a criminal is a possibility.
 
Since we're not flipping back and forth for oncce, I'm going to take the opportunity.



You're all getting to meet Nora and Ren. Sit tight and wait for the update kiddies.

Also, now that I've gone and called the vote I'm going to take the chance to say that I'm kind of, well, disappointed by the fact that a lot of people are voting based on outside influences which I can't control in quest. It's kind of demoralizing that people are hating on a character before I even have the chance of write them yet. I dunno guys. Lend me some trust or something that I don't intend to write Jaune wank fic and then rub your faces in it.

Also Philia is girl!Patroclus yes. You can tell because Philia's name is literally, well, φιλία.
Adhoc vote count started by Jemnite on Feb 28, 2018 at 7:27 PM, finished with 131 posts and 53 votes.
 
In any quest based on a pre-existing fanbase you'll always have voters influenced largely by Meta knowledge especially if the quest isn't that old yet.
 
I'm voting to dash ahead since well...its a super Achilles thing to do.

I like Jaune, but it seems weird for the Pyrrha we've seen to want to buddy up immediately
 
In any quest based on a pre-existing fanbase you'll always have voters influenced largely by Meta knowledge especially if the quest isn't that old yet.

That having been said, the fact that it's understandable (we're human, we all have our blind spots and biases and we're going to take them into the choices we make where they apply), could still make it rather frustrating and disappointing if you're a writer. I know that if I were writing an AU Madoka quest, and people were making choices based upon hating canon!Kyouko, just off the top of my head, I would be a little hurt that they assumed that my Kyouko would be some kind of terrible poorly-written character, especially if it before they were even formally introduced. I get that kind of sucking, especially if it's a factor dictating how my quest goes.
 
All things being equal it seems like many on both sides were voting based on pre-existing meta outside the quest, people who like Jaune or ship Arkos voting to pair up, VS those who don't like Jaune or Arkos voting to not.

That's not to say that's why everyone voted the way they did but it does seem like that's the case for many, so basically in either case meta was going to have a strong influence regardless of which vote won.
 
All things being equal it seems like many on both sides were voting based on pre-existing meta outside the quest, people who like Jaune or ship Arkos voting to pair up, VS those who don't like Jaune or Arkos voting to not.

That's not to say that's why everyone voted the way they did but it does seem like that's the case for many, so basically in either case meta was going to have a strong influence regardless of which vote won.

Honestly, I was just trying to think what might've been like... a bit in-character for her (that we know of) to do and to me it seemed to either follow behind him (which I initially chose) or to burst ahead (which I decided to go with since no one was taking the former)? If that makes sense?
 
With Pyrrha having such a hugely altered personality, there was no way I was going to commit to voting to partner with Jaune before seeing how his personality had changed.

Heck, even if he is mostly unchanged in personality (somewhat doubtful really, seeing how he left first out of the group), I'd want to know how this Pyrrha and him would interact before committing to that as well.

It would have been a big leap with such incomplete knowledge.

There are only three reasons to vote for the write in that I, personally, see:

1. You liked the Arkos ship in canon

2. The fact that Pyrrha and Jaune were partners in canon

3. Because the fact that he moved first implies that he is quick-thinking and takes initiative.

While #3 is fine, most probably picked the write in for # 1 or # 2.
 
Honestly, I was just trying to think what might've been like... a bit in-character for her (that we know of) to do and to me it seemed to either follow behind him (which I initially chose) or to burst ahead (which I decided to go with since no one was taking the former)? If that makes sense?
That's fair, I agree that bursting ahead seemed to be one of the most in character reactions based on what I had seen.
 
You can make the argument that this pyrrah working *together* (not her leading someone) with anyone would be a train-wreck, because that's so not her style.
In which case, the question becomes if you are just looking for a train wreck, why go after Jaune specifically if it is guaranteed to be one with any character.

It could, again, be reason #3, but most still probably did it for reasons 1 and 2 :V.

'Tis a loop.

With so little interaction with Jaune, the only reason to go after him specifically is either because he moved first (which is a valid reason, if a risky gamble to pick who you want to be partnered up with for four years based on just that), or because you rely on meta-knowledge when it is likely that both sides are different from canon.
 
#3. All the way for me. Leaving before the 'starting gun', definitely a power move that I think we would respect. Since he is the first one to show themselves to be something other than all talk it puts him at the top of the list as something besides dead weight. So why not grant him the honor of being our partner? Besides, this is supposed to last more than a day, if we realized he was dead weight than we could have left him in the dust.
 
In which case, the question becomes if you are just looking for a train wreck, why go after Jaune specifically if it is guaranteed to be one with any character.

It could, again, be reason #3, but most still probably did it for reasons 1 and 2 :V.

'Tis a loop.

With so little interaction with Jaune, the only reason to go after him specifically is either because he moved first (which is a valid reason, if a risky gamble to pick who you want to be partnered up with for four years based on just that), or because you rely on meta-knowledge when it is likely that both sides are different from canon.

How would you justify going for anyone but Jaune for the last vote? Pyrrha was already hot on his heels at the end of the chapter, so she'd have to double back to get someone else.

And if you looked at the vote itself, it wasn't worded as "I want that person as my partner because I think we'd work well together". It was "This is probably a test within a test, so I should grab the closest person that doesn't seem like a scrub so I can say I worked in a team"

Admittedly, I created a vote that would have us interact with Jaune for OOC reasons, but the vote itself wasn't OOC from what we've seen (and can reasonably assume).


Also, it seems how teams will work here might be different than canon, so the whole "partners with the first person you see" might not actually happen -- Pyrrha didn't hear anything about it from Ozpin's speach (although she might just not have payed enough attention to catch it)
 
How would you justify going for anyone but Jaune for the last vote? Pyrrha was already hot on his heels at the end of the chapter, so she'd have to double back to get someone else.

And if you looked at the vote itself, it wasn't worded as "I want that person as my partner because I think we'd work well together". It was "This is probably a test within a test, so I should grab the closest person that doesn't seem like a scrub so I can say I worked in a team"

Admittedly, I created a vote that would have us interact with Jaune for OOC reasons, but the vote itself wasn't OOC from what we've seen (and can reasonably assume).


Also, it seems how teams will work here might be different than canon, so the whole "partners with the first person you see" might not actually happen -- Pyrrha didn't hear anything about it from Ozpin's speach (although she might just not have payed enough attention to catch it)
Again, as I've said, reason # 3 is fine to vote for (that he is quick thinking and takes initiative).

Though, yes, while it is worded to be IC it is clear, and you yourself have just stated, that it was created in part for OOC reasons. I am fine with reason 3, I am skeptical (even though I have no problem with the Arkos ship) of my reasons 1 and 2 when both sides are probably different.

As for justifying going after someone else, well…

Picking a partner right away isn't very critical here.

None of the given options were "pick your partner now" and this task is supposed to take over a day.

Plenty of time to see other people in action, and to form more balanced opinions.

Well waiting too long to try to get a partner would be dangerous, not picking a partner on the first action, when none of the default votes are about you picking an partner, has little chance of being disastrous.
 
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