• How have you been, btw? Haven't seen you around much at all anywhere, and that's a shame.
    Firnagzen
    Firnagzen
    Yeah, we do miss seeing you around, Mura - rolz and in PMAS alike.
    EtchedSteel
    EtchedSteel
    Talking from the Rolz front, you're missed a lot, man, and for more than just the memes.
    mothematics
    mothematics
    i mean it hasn't been rolz in a while but we would like to have you back; discord doesn't load Everything Ever at once too so you can just hop in without wrecking your shit :p
    Sabrina's been doing the whole "lol polygot" thing for a while in the story...I don't see the issue.
    Mura, this Narrator/Eyes wagon is fatally flawed, by intent, and likely to stay that way since the INTENT is to yell at Sayaka and Hitomi. It really can't win in its current form if we want a good outcome to come out of this, and Sabrina to not be a petty jerk to one of her friends and students. I'd suggest sticking with any of the alternatives and suggesting changes?
    Except that we CAN take that and it descalates the situation. Frankly, it comes over as less being a punching bag and more letting pride stop us from being understanding.
    Ugolino
    Ugolino
    But it's not even that messed up! it comes over as Sabrina just not giving a shit about Sayaka, which annoys me even if there are vocal questers that seem like they'd be happy to throw her under the bus :/
    Muramasa
    Muramasa
    Ugh. Yes it is. Weather Sabrina the human punching bag makes for a more compelling character is beside the point. It's still a psychologically messed up and hurtful thing to do not just to yourself but to others you care about.

    Apologize if you feel the need. Harming yourself to appease others is just wrong on many levels.
    Ugolino
    Ugolino
    Oh, literally punching bag would be stupid. I'm talking about basically staying calm and understanding that Sayaka and Hitomi are currently angry and don't need us to snap at them.
    Rights as in protection from other meguca. I think the wording's fine as is there- tbh, I don't get why Hitomi would care about "mahou rights" other than whatever makes it clear the magical world's basically its own thing and kept that way by how it works...
    Muramasa
    Muramasa
    Fair enough. That said, I don't think Onmur's explaining this in a way that can appeal to Hitomi and/or Sayaka. It's too generalized.
    Ugolino
    Ugolino
    Yeah, sure, phrasing isn't how I'd handle that but the basic approach/framework is fairly sound.
    Thoughts on the Onmur vote?
    Muramasa
    Muramasa
    It's a pretty good vote. It's missing a part though. Still needs to mention/explain that the courts aren't able to provide for the special needs of a magical girl but I think the rest of it is fairly solid.
    Ugolino
    Ugolino
    Ehhhhh. I don't think that's really relevant beyond "QB mindwipes people of magic, there's no real law except what girls can make, that's part of what we're trying to change" etc etc
    Muramasa, the Hannz vote's big, fatal flaw is that it drops the news about Oriko and Kirika on them right off the bat and in the worst way possible. The people voting for it want to do damage control afterwards, but why NOT just drop it on her a bit more gently?
    Ugolino
    Ugolino
    Though Hannz's edit does solve that problem kinda, I still think the Mami/Homura planning should be in timestop and not just Sabrina saying it alone,
    Ugolino
    Ugolino
    And generally want to ease Sayaka into things more gently than the Hannz vote does.
    Why Mura never in discord :(
    Muramasa
    Muramasa
    Ugh. Just now having time to respond to this. I'll be on tonight. Just gotta get through this shift first.
    Muramasa
    Muramasa
    ...or not. Had more shit to do at home. Tomorrow would be better.
    No, Mura, the apology's for our actions LAST vote. We basically bullied Mami when she was saying she didn't want to hear it over and over and we steamrollered her. That needs an apology as I see it since uhhhh.
    Muramasa
    Muramasa
    I'm gonna have to disagree this time. Or atleast it doesn't belong in this vote.
    Ugolino
    Ugolino
    Ah, alright. Though, tbh, it's not like we open with it off the bat. Just get a bit of cringe reading their interactions last vote- Sabrina was definitely steamrollering over Mami in a pretty bad way and that needs to be addressed sometime.
    We basically HAVE to ignore that Sabrina said that line for the moment and give Mami our complete reasoning and I mean complete for going with her. Otherwise, there's no hope for any vote.
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