So the Night Horrors book for Beast is out, or at least the advance copy! It's exactly as good as you'd expect. It's mostly Heroes (who continue to be weaksauce) and Beasts, but they add something new! Insatiables... who are basically Beasts with the proper nouns switched out. And one of them, well...

The Blind Man's blotted clothing is as result of a thick trail of what resemble fish eggs progressively leaking from his navel, urethra, and anus. Particularly around his navel area, a coagulated mass of pink and black eggs comes forth when the Blind Man strains his abdominal muscles. Horrifyingly, the Blind Man has from time to time passed these eggs off as salmon roe or sturgeon caviar, as they bear a sour, fishy odor. Those who consume his "produce" have their fertility dramatically increased, and gradually produce their own eggs in a similar fashion to the Blind Man, the only difference being that mortal-produced eggs possess a coat of thin white fur. This invariably drives the afflicted unfortunates insane, as they cannot stop the egg production, resulting in self-destructive harm. The Blind Man believes that by participating in the birthing, they increase the speed at which the Primogenitor will be reborn.

So Beast continues to be Matt's magical realm. Don't bother buying it. Don't even bother pirating it.
 
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So the Night Horrors book for Beast is out, or at least the advance copy! It's exactly as good as you'd expect. It's mostly Heroes (who continue to be weaksauce) and Beasts, but they add something new! Insatiables... who are basically Beasts with the proper nouns switched out. And one of them, well...



So Beast continues to be Matt's magical realm. Don't bother buying it. Don't even bother pirating it.

Wow, that's a stupid monster.
 
So the Night Horrors book for Beast is out, or at least the advance copy! It's exactly as good as you'd expect. It's mostly Heroes (who continue to be weaksauce) and Beasts, but they add something new! Insatiables... who are basically Beasts with the proper nouns switched out. And one of them, well...



So Beast continues to be Matt's magical realm. Don't bother buying it. Don't even bother pirating it.
 

How hard is it to fuck up what's really an easy fear. People fear being made to give birth/be the vessel for horrible monsters. And while chestbusters are overdone, it really isn't that hard to think of ways to make semi-newish-looking taste on the same themes of, "Holy fuck, I'm a monster machine, dear god, kill me now."

Or whatever.

And instead we get dick eggs.
 
It's the "you have to eat all the eggs" meme done in classic White Wolf fashion.

"Baby we ain't nothing but oviparous so let's do it like they do it in the Shadows of Innsmouth."
 
How hard is it to fuck up what's really an easy fear. People fear being made to give birth/be the vessel for horrible monsters. And while chestbusters are overdone, it really isn't that hard to think of ways to make semi-newish-looking taste on the same themes of, "Holy fuck, I'm a monster machine, dear god, kill me now."

Or whatever.

And instead we get dick eggs.

I mean, Alien had the whole fear of rape and pregnancy thing going on, but this is like... Fear of the waiter jerking off into the fettucini and getting an STD from it. It's disgusting, don't get me wrong, but it's not exactly a primal fear.
 
Random idea that's easily better. You eat the bad whatever. Suddenly you have two things going on.

A) An insane healing factor (more on why later)
B) Stomach problems. Throwing up, sickness, cramps, just the fucking works, and when the doctors look...nope, nothing we can do, it's in your head, stop being a baby.

But then, one month into the problem, as you're trying to cope with a life as someone whose very guts are traitors, who sometimes can't hold in food and which makes your days a misery, even as you find that you broke your leg and within three days it was healed and yet nobody believes it, "It was probably just a sprain" or whatever. There might be magic going on here.

Then you throw up some sort of something. A monstrosity. A horrible, veiny, fleshy thing that growls and one of two options

1) You're made to somehow love it despite its ugliness and then John was the progenitor or whatever.
2) It crawls down the toilet screaming, somehow digs its way (magic, again) into the sewer system and starts growing, murdering people, that sort of shit.

And then every week, there's another one vomited out. One after another, each growing up into horrible monsters. But if you try to kill yourself, unless you really just blow your brains out, it doesn't go well. And you don't want to die, but you don't want to keep doing this. Being sick and making monsters, and you're desperate and afraid and why WON'T PEOPLE BELIEVE YOU! The doctors think you're crazy, or some sort of fucking addict seeking drugs, now get out of here so we can treat the real people.

And the pain keeps on getting worse, but the worse the pain the faster you heal, and eventually even if you tried to blow your brains out, guess what?

You can't anymore.

And so you're sick and making monsters forever unless PC/etc comes along and saves you.

...I literally made that up as it went along, and so it may have, like, 50 different problems.

But it's not Dick Eggs.
 
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Also, it reveals that Gamergate was caused by an 'Insatiable' which is kind of like Idigam/Beast hybrid only not literally. Because it wasn't enough to have an MRA Hero...
 
Also, there's a character who has been described as:
Ugly Hacker Geek Girl who swats people for fun to eat their fear.

Edit: Wait, that's the same one that did Gamergate. But there's also a hot youtube girl monster who is sexy and stuff.
 
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For a less shitty topic,

Does anybody have some experience with Dragon: The Embers? I want to read deeper on it, but there seems to be like, four editions and I can't tell which followed which or what the changes are. I know the latest is The Orobori Chronicles, but that's still under construction.

(Also apparently there's Dragon: The Inheritance, which is a separate deal and different somehow?)
 
Random idea that's easily better. You eat the bad whatever. Suddenly you have two things going on.

A) An insane healing factor (more on why later)
B) Stomach problems. Throwing up, sickness, cramps, just the fucking works, and when the doctors look...nope, nothing we can do, it's in your head, stop being a baby.

But then, one month into the problem, as you're trying to cope with a life as someone whose very guts are traitors, who sometimes can't hold in food and which makes your days a misery, even as you find that you broke your leg and within three days it was healed and yet nobody believes it, "It was probably just a sprain" or whatever. There might be magic going on here.

Then you throw up some sort of something. A monstrosity. A horrible, veiny, fleshy thing that growls and one of two options

1) You're made to somehow love it despite its ugliness and then John was the progenitor or whatever.
2) It crawls down the toilet screaming, somehow digs its way (magic, again) into the sewer system and starts growing, murdering people, that sort of shit.

And then every week, there's another one vomited out. One after another, each growing up into horrible monsters. But if you try to kill yourself, unless you really just blow your brains out, it doesn't go well. And you don't want to die, but you don't want to keep doing this. Being sick and making monsters, and you're desperate and afraid and why WON'T PEOPLE BELIEVE YOU! The doctors think you're crazy, or some sort of fucking addict seeking drugs, now get out of here so we can treat the real people.

And the pain keeps on getting worse, but the worse the pain the faster you heal, and eventually even if you tried to blow your brains out, guess what?

You can't anymore.

And so you're sick and making monsters forever unless PC/etc comes along and saves you.

...I literally made that up as it went along, and so it may have, like, 50 different problems.

But it's not Dick Eggs.
Hmm. Let me try.

Let's say... You meet a stranger in a bar, and they offer you a drink. You start talking, chatting, and eventually you're not paying attention and there's something extra in the drink. You black out.

The next thing you know, you're in your room, but something is wrong. You're not sure what it is, but your balance is off, and it feels like you're bumping into things and stumbling all over a house that you should know like the back of your hand.

The next day, you look in the mirror and notice you look... Thinner. Long, drawn out. You can't focus. There's something wrong with your head, a buzzing in your ears, as if they were full of flies. You find yourself blanking out, blocks of time just disappearing from your day.

The third day, you can feel the thoughts crawling in your skull, moving you, but it's like you're watching a movie constructed of cut scenes and outtakes. Things don't make sense. Your friends are yelling at you. Did you do something wrong? Everything hurts. You look in a mirror and a skull stares back. You scream.

By the fourth day, you don't see anything, but you can hear them in your head, talking, singing. It's your language, but you can't understand the words. You should feel something, but you don't.

On the fifth day, your flesh unfolds, and your c̠̺̬ͩh̡͓͓͓̳͇̏̎ͬͩ̿͑͑̏͆i̷͚̹͍͙̮̐ͯ̅̉̌̇l̲̩̙̹ͥͩͦ͡ͅḓ̡͎̘̄̅̄̾ͣͭ̅̄́͠ͅr̸͕̺͙͈̃ͤ͂͒̆ͭ͝ē͓̘͖̟̾̆ͪͯͣ̄͠n̂͒͊ͤ҉͍͞͝ begin to fly. You can hear them, the gentle thrum of their wings, their faint giggling song, but you can't see them. You can feel them moving through the tunnels and folds of your body, but you can't move to touch them. You have become immobile, a hive for your c̠̺̬ͩh̡͓͓͓̳͇̏̎ͬͩ̿͑͑̏͆i̷͚̹͍͙̮̐ͯ̅̉̌̇l̲̩̙̹ͥͩͦ͡ͅḓ̡͎̘̄̅̄̾ͣͭ̅̄́͠ͅr̸͕̺͙͈̃ͤ͂͒̆ͭ͝ē͓̘͖̟̾̆ͪͯͣ̄͠n̂͒͊ͤ҉͍̻̲͞͝ to spawn from.

It's okay. Your c̠̺̬ͩh̡͓͓͓̳͇̏̎ͬͩ̿͑͑̏͆i̷͚̹͍͙̮̐ͯ̅̉̌̇l̲̩̙̹ͥͩͦ͡ͅḓ̡͎̘̄̅̄̾ͣͭ̅̄́͠ͅr̸͕̺͙͈̃ͤ͂͒̆ͭ͝ē͓̘͖̟̾̆ͪͯͣ̄͠n̂͒͊ͤ҉͍̻̲͞͝ will take care of you. They'll feed you. They'll stay with you, when they're not busy- Tell you stories, even if you can't understand them.

You love your c̠̺̬ͩh̡͓͓͓̳͇̏̎ͬͩ̿͑͑̏͆i̷͚̹͍͙̮̐ͯ̅̉̌̇l̲̩̙̹ͥͩͦ͡ͅḓ̡͎̘̄̅̄̾ͣͭ̅̄́͠ͅr̸͕̺͙͈̃ͤ͂͒̆ͭ͝ē͓̘͖̟̾̆ͪͯͣ̄͠n̂͒͊ͤ҉͍̻̲͞͝.
 
Also, there's a character who has been described as:
Ugly Hacker Geek Girl who swats people for fun to eat their fear.

Edit: Wait, that's the same one that did Gamergate. But there's also a hot youtube girl monster who is sexy and stuff.
Also, one of the characters sunk the Titanic. However, due to low statpools, it's not really a threat to PC's who are at least marginally optimized for combat.
For a less shitty topic,

Does anybody have some experience with Dragon: The Embers? I want to read deeper on it, but there seems to be like, four editions and I can't tell which followed which or what the changes are. I know the latest is The Orobori Chronicles, but that's still under construction.

(Also apparently there's Dragon: The Inheritance, which is a separate deal and different somehow?)
I have no idea. When most people bring up fan-games it's typically Genius (Mage but shittier) Leviathan (Beast but better, before Beast was a thing) and Princess (Nothing to say here).
 
Ugly Hacker Geek Girl who swats people for fun to eat their fear.

Edit: Wait, that's the same one that did Gamergate. But there's also a hot youtube girl monster who is sexy and stuff.

Also, one of the characters sunk the Titanic. However, due to low statpools, it's not really a threat to PC's who are at least marginally optimized for combat.
Low statpools usually means our players can barge into their house and live on their couches above objections!
Weak monsters can't be taken seriously? :oops:
My hunters once moved in with a Mage (against his will) after uncovering limitations of his Conditional Magic* flaw.

* only take conditional magic flaws when prepared to have it ruthlessly exploited against you
 
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I'm starting to feel like Beast may be their most cringeworthy line ever done. That's pretty fucking impressive
It's also impressive in how universal it is. I mean, it's not "One of the twenty thousand Mage books has something that's clearly 'magical realm' and other Mage (or anything) books have shitty or badly thought out stuff" or whatever. It's just...everywhere.
What's amazing is how it unified our normally fractious WoD/SV community.
 
I don't know, man. It still has to compete with Gypsies.
Eh, that was a one off book, that with WW's general quality control to that sort of thing we can expect from time to time due to their inability to not be idiots. But when you're trying to launch a new line that ties together splats I'd expect someone to actually be willing to tell their writers to stop trolling reddit for ideas.
 
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