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Paulie Romanov said:
One thing to take note of in my games, I really don't like the Strix in a modern setting, and from what I understand VTR 2e makes the Strix the focus of the game. I mean, in Requiem For Rome, the Strix kind of worked, but I think they should not have been put in the modern setting for Requiem. So in my games, assume the Strix don't exist.
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Not really. Yes, there is a chapter in the 2E core book dedicated to them but beyond that one chapter they appear sporadically, being mentioned here and there.
 
AkatsukiL13 said:
Not really. Yes, there is a chapter in the 2E core book dedicated to them but beyond that one chapter they appear sporadically, being mentioned here and there.
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Fair point, I'm not really familiar with Requiem 2e as I do not own it yet, so either way, if I make a nWoD RP, it will be using the 1e rules as it's what I have on hand.
 
Currently re-reading Slashers.

Never quite understood why I find that supplement so amusing, might be because I watched a lot of those movies when I was a kid. *goes looking for the dvds*
 
Paulie Romanov said:
Anybody here fans of Vampire: The Requiem and Changeling: The Lost? I've considered doing a forum RPG of the two gamelines together. We'd use the old First Edition rules as I do not own the new version of Requiem and Changeling hasn't got a 2e version yet.

One thing to take note of in my games, I really don't like the Strix in a modern setting, and from what I understand VTR 2e makes the Strix the focus of the game. I mean, in Requiem For Rome, the Strix kind of worked, but I think they should not have been put in the modern setting for Requiem. So in my games, assume the Strix don't exist.
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What are the Strix? I've heard them mentioned twice now. And I'm a fan of Changeling: The Lost, at least, haven't had a chance to read up on VTR. I actually have a Quest of the former going right now.
 
The Laurent said:
What are the Strix? I've heard them mentioned twice now. And I'm a fan of Changeling: The Lost, at least, haven't had a chance to read up on VTR. I actually have a Quest of the former going right now.
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Evil invincible owl spirits that hate Vampires for some reason. They debuted in Requiem For Rome as a shout out to Roman mythology but were introduced into the modern setting. Never really was a fan of them.
 
There's plenty of info on them in the White Wolf Wiki here.

The 2E core book actually fleshes them out a fair bit and provides a number of sample Strix which are all pretty varied, with some having no real agenda against vampires, such as the soul-stealing Photographer and the sickly, child devouring Teach.

Unlike in the Requiem for Rome where they were fairly united in destroying the vampiric society of Rome, the modern Strix aren't united, even in their hatred towards Kindred. As I said, some of them don't even bother with Kindred at all unless they become involved in its affairs.
 
Strix are not spirits. Hell they can't even enter twilight till fairly late in their growth(shadow potency 8). They are literally living shadow infused with vitae.

They have a whole host of powers that make them a nightmare for the kindred to deal with, including the ability to posses them and use their disciplines. 2e suggests that they might be the progenitors of the kindred and they originate from some realm made of darkness that may or may not be in the Lower Depths. They're basically the boogeyman to vampires. One piece of official fiction has a Prince, the lead vampire of an area, assassinate all the high ranking members of his domain just because there might be a strix possessing one of them.

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cmwatford said:
Strix are not spirits. Hell they can't even enter twilight till fairly late in their growth(shadow potency 8). They are literally living shadow infused with vitae.

They have a whole host of powers that make them a nightmare for the kindred to deal with, including the ability to posses them and use their disciplines. 2e suggests that they might be the progenitors of the kindred and they originate from some realm made of darkness that may or may not be in the Lower Depths. They're basically the boogeyman to vampires. One piece of official fiction has a Prince, the lead vampire of an area, assassinate all the high ranking members of his domain just because there might be a strix possessing one of them.

Edit: typos and word choice correction.
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Either way, in my nWoD games, Strix don't exist and I don't use them.
 
The Laurent said:
Which is perfectly valid. nWoD as a setting seems to have a lot of room for, and acceptance of, customization of settings, themes, and so on.
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Yeah, unlike OWoD, NWoD was designed to be modular. In fact VtR, WtF and MtAw all have a book with hacks/alternate settings for their games. Plus there's the Mirrors books which do the same for the NWoD world as a whole.
 
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Something like that. In the most general definition Slashers are serial killers with something supernatural or otherwise inhuman about them, which actually can lump in every other splat in the NWoD as the term comes from the US government. Slashers, true Slashers, come in all kinds of types, ranging from the methodical killers that a stalk a certain prey with a detailed plan of attack to the wild spree killers that go from kill to kill, and of course everything in between.

In game terms they come in one of ten types divided between two categories, the Rippers and the Scourges. Rippers are the more 'human' of the two, meaning they are still somewhat recognizable as human albeit utterly monstrous ones while Scourges are completely consumed by their hunt. In movie terms, Jigsaw from the Saw films is a Ripper while Jason from Friday the 13th is a Scourge. And much like that example, the ten types are largely based off of famous serial killers, both real and fictional.
 
This may be a little off-topic, but I have decided to do a Vampire: The Requiem quest over in the Quest Thread. I'll let you guys know when it's posted and ready.
 
Yeah throwing up a link for a Quest or RPG involving one of the Worlds of Darkness here shouldn't be an issue.

Honestly I've been considering taking a look to see if there's interesting in a VtM/DAV game. I was in the process of running the first of the Transylvania Chronicles with DAV20 for my group but circumstances have caused that to fall through and worse forcing us to end the rather lengthy V2o chronicle we had been running on and off for a couple years now.

Annoying but it happens.

But their is some good news the Kickstarter for V20 Lore of the Clans will going live soon, probably next week. For those that don't know Lore of the Clans is the V20 update to the Clan Books, albeit in the format of one big book rather than thirteen separate ones. And with how close M20 is to the release of the backer PDF as well as some recent previews of the book has lessened the twin blows of a cancelled ongoing game and one that never got a chance.
 
AkatsukiL13 said:
Yeah throwing up a link for a Quest or RPG involving one of the Worlds of Darkness here shouldn't be an issue.

Honestly I've been considering taking a look to see if there's interesting in a VtM/DAV game. I was in the process of running the first of the Transylvania Chronicles with DAV20 for my group but circumstances have caused that to fall through and worse forcing us to end the rather lengthy V2o chronicle we had been running on and off for a couple years now.

Annoying but it happens.

But their is some good news the Kickstarter for V20 Lore of the Clans will going live soon, probably next week. For those that don't know Lore of the Clans is the V20 update to the Clan Books, albeit in the format of one big book rather than thirteen separate ones. And with how close M20 is to the release of the backer PDF as well as some recent previews of the book has lessened the twin blows of a cancelled ongoing game and one that never got a chance.
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DAV?

Dark Age...oh, yeah. I vaguely remember hearing about Dark Age Vampires. Wasn't that back when the Unicorn vampires were still alive?

Or something?

/ Very, very vague second-hand knowledge for the win.

As a side note, was never completely sold on the Clan-system, if only because it felt a lot less flexible to me coming off of the Seemings and Kiths, which are a lot more variable without any "This Clan is clearly bred to be the leaders, these are the spies" stuff. Though there are a lot of interesting ideas as far as clans go in VtM, from what I remember.
 
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The Laurent said:
DAV?

Dark Age...oh, yeah. I vaguely remember hearing about Dark Age Vampires. Wasn't that back when the Unicorn vampires were still alive?

Or something?

/ Very, very vague second-hand knowledge for the win.
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Unicorn? You mean the Salubri? If you do then yes, they exist back then. Of course they still exist in the modern day as well. There are a handful of the Healer Caste wandering the Earth, pursuing things like Golconda. The Warrior Caste has become a twisted parody of themselves in the Sabbat's Salubri Antitribu. While the enigmatic Watchers become the Wu Zao, a Bloodline in the Far East.
 
AkatsukiL13 said:
Unicorn? You mean the Salubri? If you do then yes, they exist back then. Of course they still exist in the modern day as well. There are a handful of the Healer Caste wandering the Earth, pursuing things like Golconda. The Warrior Caste has become a twisted parody of themselves in the Sabbat's Salubri Antitribu. While the enigmatic Watchers become the Wu Zao, a Bloodline in the Far East.
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Yeah, the Salubri. Also, how does that fit in with the...er, the Kuen-Ji thing? Eastern Vampires in Wuxia Land?
 
The Wu Zao stick to the shadows, avoiding the Kuei-Jin and making noise that could bring the attention of the Kuei-Jin as they have some history with the Salubri's founder. Given that the Kuei-Jin have a number of greater, more important threats as well as the Wu Zao's origins and nature it works well for them.

The short version, as of DAV20, is that Saulot, the founder of the Salubri traveled to the Middle Kingdom, what we know today as China, he met Xue, the Kuei-Jin who created the five main Dharmas. For a time Saulot learned from him before the two had a falling out and Saulot returned to Enoch. Before that he Embraced to individuals, a scholar and a thief, the Wu Zao came from them. The whole Bloodline is one part thief, one part scholar.
 
So, just a question here. I was trying to look up the powers and so on of Vampires, and when I was looking at Disciplines...there were over fifty, and so what's...I mean, how am I supposed to sift through all of that to find out what the 'Core Disciplines' are, or whatnot?
 
The Laurent said:
So, just a question here. I was trying to look up the powers and so on of Vampires, and when I was looking at Disciplines...there were over fifty, and so what's...I mean, how am I supposed to sift through all of that to find out what the 'Core Disciplines' are, or whatnot?
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Look at the core seven clans (Brujah, Gangrel, Malkavian, Nosferatu, Toreador, Tremere, Ventrue), and look at which Disciplines they have. Those are the "core" powers. You can further expand this with the unique Disciplines of the remaining four clans. Everything else is extremely peripheral.

(Hint: Animalism, Celerity, Dementation, Dominate, Fortitude, Obfuscate, Potence, Presence, Protean, Thaumaturgy - everything bolded is only present among one of the core seven clans.)
 
The Laurent said:
So, just a question here. I was trying to look up the powers and so on of Vampires, and when I was looking at Disciplines...there were over fifty, and so what's...I mean, how am I supposed to sift through all of that to find out what the 'Core Disciplines' are, or whatnot?
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Okay the core disciplines that you will meet , and which are the most widespread when interacting with vampires are
Fortitude, Vigor, Celerity, which are the 3 body boosters. Presence and Dominate are the most common Social Boosters. Animalism is I manipulate Animals and Auspex is " I see shit"while Obfuscate is "You don't see me" The other stuff is either ritualistic magic and rare, or only present in a single clan so it then depends on what you want there.
Ah wait nWoD most likely
Celerity, Vigor,Resilience are I am faster, stronger tankier. Every Vampire has at least one of those.
Animalism, "I controll animals"40% of all vampires can have it
Obfuscate " You" don't see me 40% of all vampires can have it
Protean, "I can grow claws, and melt with the earth" Clan Gangrels domain so roughly 20% of all vampires can have it .
Auspex," I see stuff, clan mekhets trick.
Majesty,"Love me and despair" Clan Deava
Nightmare "BOO "Clan Nosferatu.
Dominate." Obey my words" Clan Ventrue
 
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