DtF is composed primarily of people who were around at the time, with the whole "literally a fallen angel" bit.

As far as they know.

Their memories might be entirely fabricated. It's entirely possible that demons are a product of Millennial end of the world fears altering the Consensus and they actually didn't exist at all until 1999.

Nobody brought up Kronos because he's not actually a character who shows up in actual main-line World of Darkness books.
I believe that he's technically a character in Scion, though that doesn't count because it isn't part of either WoD. But if we're doing crossovers of things that really aren't suitable for crossover, we can always take it on. Along with Aberrant. And Street Fighter. White Wolf Vs Capcom: New Age of Horror?
 
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Have I mentioned how annoying I find it when people try to filter everything though the lense of Mage? Why not try something different like say putting it through Werewolf, Changling, or Promethean. Lets see how the others fit in a cosmology that isn't Mage-centric for a change.
 
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Have I mentioned how annoying I find it when people try to filter everything though the lense of Mage? Why not try something different like say putting it through Werewolf, Changling, or Promethean. Lets see how the others fit in a cosmology that isn't Mage-centric for a change.
It's probably because the main people who are talking about the setting are fans of mage talking about mage games(and the point of this is how the lines aren't very crossover friendly in terms of mechanics and narrative, and so you pick a primary splat and run everything through it). Though I know I've seen EarthScorpion talk about how you'd do it with other splats.
 
Have I mentioned how annoying I find it when people try to filter everything though the lense of Mage? Why not try something different like say putting it through Werewolf, Changling, or Promethean. Lets see how the others fit in a cosmology that isn't Mage-centric for a change.
OWoD Mage is easiest, because it has an explicit reality editing mechanism. If histories don't mesh up, you can just say "consensus reality" and call it a day. Whereas Demon: The Fallen outright said that everything is true, especially the mutually contradictory parts.

If you want to use Werewolf: The Apocalypse as a base, then it's simple. God is a minor Celestine who was once worshiped by a tiny tribe nomadic originating in Mesopotamia, which later settled in Canaan. He's utterly small potatoes compared to the Triat, but he created some other spirits to serve him and they think he's all that. The real reason he doesn't show up is that, for all his claims of omnipotence, there's a bunch of shit out there that could kick his ass. Including a lot of werewolves. So he hides away in his Shard Realm, hoping no one finds him.

Or, the Black Furies are right and God is the servant of a particularly insidious Urge Wyrm.
 
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I see a lot of talk about Mage, some about Vampire, and a bit about Changeling. Does anyone here play Werewolf? I always felt it was the grunge equivalent to Vampire's goths and Mage's nerds.
 
I see a lot of talk about Mage, some about Vampire, and a bit about Changeling. Does anyone here play Werewolf? I always felt it was the grunge equivalent to Vampire's goths and Mage's nerds.
W:tA, no.
W:tF, yes.

I was once part of a pack of forsake who's alpha was a Catholic priest. We also had a perpetually drunk hobo, a hippie naturalist, and a Russian mobster.
 
See now I wonder. Is there anything "Modern" oWerewolves could do that could top all the terrible terrible shit they've done in the past?

Is this a crossover setting? Then no, the Technocracy would stop them long before they could enact such a plan? In a setting where they're only opposed by Pentex?


High Altitude EMP. Steal some nukes, set them off high enough that that the deformation of the Earth's electromagnetic field fries the entire global power grid and destroys all non-hardened electronics, sending mankind back into the dark ages in one fell swoop.
 
See now I wonder. Is there anything "Modern" oWerewolves could do that could top all the terrible terrible shit they've done in the past?

Yes.

If the question is "can oWolves make everything worse for everyone but especially themselves", the answer is always, unequivocally, yes. They are the nightmarish, Darwinian answer to idiotproofing. They are the ultimate idiots.

Basically what I'm saying is that you could shoot them all from space and say it's not only justifiable self defense but also a humanitarian cause and you would not be wrong in the slightest.

I once tried to find the good in WTA.

Once.
 
So I'm trying to rewrite my Out of the Dark, Into the Light chronicle setting for NWoDCall of DutyChronicles of Darkness and I may solicit people for some criticism and advice since I'm doing a complete rewrite as my original drafts were lost with my old hard drive. I'm going to be honest the first draft is going to be extremely Americo-centric as I don't feel knowledgeable enough to confidently remark on how I think individual nations would handle the issue of Hunters, Vampires, and Werewolves operating in a semi-open fashion. Be gentle, Sempai, it's my first time.
 
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Nope, it's just the logic train.
If Solar = Hunter, then Hunter Power Giver = Unconquered Sun. As Lucifer is the one handing out the powers to Hunters in H:tR we arrive at:
Lucifer = Unconquered Sun

Except Lucifer isn't the source of the Imbued Hunters' power. It was the last two angels still active one Earth, the Ebon Dragon and the Scarlet Queen. And there's heavy indication that the Imbued have existed on Earth before as the Wan Xian, the Ten Thousand Immortals that would get drunk on their power and then cursed, becoming the Kuei-Jin.
 
Any, really.

I'm less interested in the specifics of the setting or the minutiae of any edition than I am in attempting to pierce occult mysteries and use a freeform magic system that allows me to have mastery over time itself and so on. Both Mage games have a compelling enough setting for me to want to try them.
 
Any, really.

I'm less interested in the specifics of the setting or the minutiae of any edition than I am in attempting to pierce occult mysteries and use a freeform magic system that allows me to have mastery over time itself and so on. Both Mage games have a compelling enough setting for me to want to try them.

Huh, well, I'd love to play (or possibly run, I suppose!) Mage sometime myself, then.

Once I'd even planned on running a one-on-one Mage game for someone, but I lost touch with them, so it never happened.
 
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