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To Become One (A Mavel Symbiote Quest)

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Freak A Nature said:
Perfect setting for it here.
Start by massacuring any German forces we can find (bonus points if it's Italian or Japanese) and get in contact with the Allies..
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A Japanese symbiote is a fasinating concept, especially if they're a victim of Unit 731. It'd probably lead to several conspiracy theories that the symbiote a Japanese bioweapon that backfired on them hard.

Honestly, those monsters deserve far worse of a fate than whatever they get here, no matter what that fate is.
 
Duke William of said:
A Japanese symbiote is a fasinating concept, especially if they're a victim of Unit 731. It'd probably lead to several conspiracy theories that the symbiote a Japanese bioweapon that backfired on them hard.

Honestly, those monsters deserve far worse of a fate than whatever they get here, no matter what that fate is.
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Yeah, the big thing about a WW2 setting with the Symbiote..

Well, the Symbiotes are quite monstrous, yet there's plenty of human monsters running around that won't be missed. Even the heros of the Era would be fully willing to kill given the circumstances (this includes Captain America himself).

May even run into Nick Fury (or his parents) out in the wild.
 
[X] Plan A Hero's Rise
-[X]An Age of Marvels (Begin in 2008, when Iron Man changed the world)
-[X]You crawled out of your meteor and looked for a new Host: You needed to survive, and someone was nearby (You Choose from a Selection of Characters that are pre-created, or among canon characters in the Marvel universe.)
-[X]The Symbiote
 
Why do you guys want to be in Howling commandos when you can make your Host dictator in thier respective country and make things better for the parties involved (Ourselves, Host and the country)

It isn't like Allied Nations are saints let's try to do something different.

By contacting thier atmost we would be put in laboratory for further research (Most definitely another Super Soldier Program).
 
Detective Raven said:
Why do you guys want to be in Howling commandos when you can make your Host dictator in thier respective country and make things better for the parties involved (Ourselves, Host and the country)

It isn't like Allied Nations are saints let's try to do something different.

By contacting thier atmost we would be put in laboratory for further research (Most definitely another Super Soldier Program).
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All I'm going to say is that for the most part… almost all the people here are too messed up to wield political power.

Even if they would be the perfect kind of people for the job.

Also you do not want to be in any nations laboratory for any reason. It will fuck things up in ways you can't begin to imagine.
 
Oh and one more thing:

I have two hosts from every major nation, though a few nations like America have… only canon character's.
 
Magoose said:
All I'm going to say is that for the most part… almost all the people here are too messed up to wield political power.

Even if they would be the perfect kind of people for the job.

Also you do not want to be in any nations laboratory for any reason. It will fuck things up in ways you can't begin to imagine.
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I know that is why I want our host to have political power so we can set up bases and have protection when shit hits the fan.

As for messed up everyone are messed up we can only try our best and the results would be judged by the dices lol.
 
Detective Raven said:
I know that is why I want our host to have political power so we can set up bases and have protection when shit hits the fan.

As for messed up everyone are messed up we can only try our best and the results would be judged by the dices lol.
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Yeah about that.

I am not going to roll for how the world will be.

You guys get to choose it.
 
Magoose said:
Yeah about that.

I am not going to roll for how the world will be.

You guys get to choose it.
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The point is even if we choose the dice still plays a huge part since we are early we can have as much protection we can get our hands on.

I for one don't see the point in trying to fight in a warring time when the Symbiote has weakness to Sound, and Thermal attacks.

Surely you can see the point as a soldier or warrior you are just one man but as a leader you have an entire Armada to do your bidding.
 
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Detective Raven said:
The point is even if we choose the dice still plays a huge part since we are early we can have as much protection we can get our hands on.

I for one don't see the point in trying to fight in a warring time when the Symbiote has weakness to Sound, and Thermal attacks.

Surely you can see the point as a soldier or warrior you are just one man but as a leader you have an entire Armada to do your bidding.
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Counterpoint: We get to kill Nazis. And Imperial Japanese.

Nuff said.

And I am really not keen on being a Villain and Dictator, either. And no, you can not be the latter without also being the former.
Personal might and power do not give you a right to rule.

Also, also: Do you HONESTLY think it would be so easy to just take over one of, say, the Axis countries? Remember: The Bad Guys get superpowers, too.
And finally: No, the Allies would NOT just lock us into a Laboratory for experimentation. Especially not when they are fighting a War against Enemies like Hydra and need people like us on the ground to stand a chance against them.
Oh sure, some Morons among them might want that, but I don't see people like Eisenhower and Roosevelt agreeing to that shit. The Allies were not saints, but they were NOWHERE near as bad as the fucking Nazis and Imperial Japanese, either.
 
Taking over an axis power? Nope. Toppling one of them a bit earlier and controlling the changes they undergo post war? Possible. I wouldn't mind an opportunity to shape Japan into an interventionist pro mutant democratic republic with robots of it's own to fight sentinels with.
 
I'd actually like to play as a Chinese survivor of Unit 731's various crimes against humanity who, after gaining the symbiote, leads rebels to kick the Japanese out of China, starting eith Unit 731.

Here's a video about Unit 731's various atrocities. It's notnfor the faint of heart.

Unit 731: Imperial Japan's Human Experimentation Laboratory / Into the Shadows

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9xvJXP_mTk

If we can keep Mao from taking over China, that'd be good as well. Chiang isn't that high of a priority, but I won't weep if we have to off him if he gets... ideas.
 
Alexander Sturnn said:
Counterpoint: We get to kill Nazis. And Imperial Japanese.

Nuff said.

And I am really not keen on being a Villain and Dictator, either. And no, you can not be the latter without also being the former.
Personal might and power do not give you a right to rule.

Also, also: Do you HONESTLY think it would be so easy to just take over one of, say, the Axis countries? Remember: The Bad Guys get superpowers, too.
And finally: No, the Allies would NOT just lock us into a Laboratory for experimentation. Especially not when they are fighting a War against Enemies like Hydra and need people like us on the ground to stand a chance against them.
Oh sure, some Morons among them might want that, but I don't see people like Eisenhower and Roosevelt agreeing to that shit. The Allies were not saints, but they were NOWHERE near as bad as the fucking Nazis and Imperial Japanese, either.
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Well do you find pleasure in building head canon and accuse others as you wish did I ever say we are going to take up a Axis country that is a fool's endeavour.

As per no we aren't Villains we are going take over a Third World country like Africa or India and do uplifting there this place have less villains popping due to Marvel being a western Franchise.

Don't try to bring up Moral high ground Allies are no saints either do you know atrocities of Britain in Indian Soil or the shit that USSR kept pulling especially in Marvel.

I can go on why I want to be a Dictator and not be attack dog and end up in a laboratory like Wolverine.

In the timeline the Nazis are dead and Imperial Japan fell whereas the third world Nations suffered.

I am seeing things in long term I want to help others and also not become a broken mess for there are Fate worse than death.

I wish to see how much change we bring upon this world.

No just look at Wolverine lol I can even bring on racist quotes from Churchill and man made Famines created by him or Stalin for the matter.

It is wishful thinking though at the end of the day dice plays huge part.
 
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Oh, I know all about Unit 731. They definitely deserve an asskicking.

But I still want to bond with a jewish Holocaust Survivor to show the Nazis first hand the failure of their racial superiority bullshit.

Detective Raven said:
Well do you find pleasure in building head canon and accuse others as you wish did I ever say we are going to take up a Axis country that is a fool's endeavour.



As per no we aren't Villains we are going take over a Third World country like Africa or India and do uplifting there this place have less villains popping due to Marvel being a western Franchise.



Don't try to bring up Moral high ground Allies are no saints either do you know atrocities of Britain in Indian Soil or the shit that USSR kept pulling especially in Marvel.



I can go on why I want to be a Dictator and not be attack dog and end up in a laboratory like Wolverine.



In the timeline the Nazis are dead and Imperial Japan fell whereas the third world Nations suffered.



I am seeing things in long term I want to help others and also not become a broken mess for there are Fate worse than death.



I wish to see how much change we bring upon this world.



No who said look at Wolverine lol I can even bring on racist quotes from Churchill and man made Famines created by him or Stalin for the matter.



It is wishful thinking to think as though things at the end of the day dice plays huge part.
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Wow, rude much? At no point did I personally attack you or accuse you of anything. At most, I misunderstood part of your intentions. My bad.

Still massively disagreeing with you on becoming a Dictator of some third world country and 'improving things'. What does that even mean? What is 'the best' for those people? Are we in any way qualified to judge and decide that, Symbiote or host? Won't that just make us another Colonialist asshole?
Also, there are plenty ways to help countries like that without taking them over and ruling them.
Still, I do get where you are coming from, even if I don't agree.

Finally, helping the Allies win WW2 and end some of the most evil Regimes in the History of mankind hopefully early does not make us anyone's 'attack dog'. We don't have to keep working for any government after that if we don't want to. And if they want to force us, well, let them try. Not like we don't have Allies of our own by then.

Also, yes, as I said, the Western Allies (I should have mentioned that I don't consider the Soviets to be part of that, sorry) also did some pretty damn bad things.
Even the worst of them were also still not even REMOTELY comparable to the Holocaust, Generalplan Ost, Unit 731, the Rape of Nanking, etc.
 
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Detective Raven said:
Don't try to bring up Moral high ground Allies are no saints either do you know atrocities of Britain in Indian Soil or the shit that USSR kept pulling especially in Marvel.
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Compared to what the Axis did, whatever the Allies did was positively saintly. Not that this excuses those atrocities, I'm just saying that the Allies(not including the USSR) do indeed have the moral high ground.

Detective Raven said:
I can go on why I want to be a Dictator and not be attack dog and end up in a laboratory like Wolverin
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DUde, I like my evil playthroughs every now and then, but I'd rather we not become a dictator here.

We don't have to be a dictator to not be an "attack dog". They're not mutually exclusive, we can be a dictator and still be an attack dog for the Western powers. Early South Korea stands out as a prime example of a dictstorship tolerated because the alternative was Communism.

I'd much rather we be a George Washington, anyways.
 
Alexander Sturnn said:
Oh, I know all about Unit 731. They definitely deserve an asskicking.

But I still want to bond with a jewish Holocaust Survivor to show the Nazis first hand the failure of their racial superiority bullshit.


Wow, rude much? At no point did I personally attack you or accuse you of anything. At most, I misunderstood part of your intentions. My bad.

Still massively disagreeing with you on becoming a Dictator of some third world country and 'improving things'. What does that even mean? What is 'the best' for those people? Are we in any way qualified to judge and decide that, Symbiote or host?
Also, there are plenty ways to help countries like that without taking them over and ruling them.

Finally, helping the Allies win WW2 and end some of the most evil Regimes in the History of nankind does not make us anyone's 'attack dog'. We don't have to keep working for any government after that if we don't want to.
Also, yes, as I said, the Western Allies (I should have mentioned that I don't consider the Soviets to be part of that) also did some bad things.
Even the worst of them were also still not even REMOTELY comparable to the Holocaust, Generalplan Ost, Unit 73, the Rape of Nanking, etc.
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Nay I feel irritated whenever people try to give themselves Moral high ground and things aren't that way.

Now you are pulling worlds the African Nations would just be dictator anyway.

As per they don't compare dude go and hit a history book about what they did in India or USSR for the matter.

Well you are going to topple government which would be toppled regardless of the participation.

There are plenty of ways you mean donation? How are you going to bring out that much money? In this Fictional world people are always out there to crush any changes.

Suppression of Technology, Massive terrorism I can go on about it.

You speak as if there wasn't a single government without Democracy that didn't uplift people.

At the end of the day this is quest.

As per rude I don't think so you tried to put down me and my logic by saying it is being Villain obviously I wouldn't take it kindly.

You could have just asked what do you mean by that I would have elaborated.

Duke William of said:
Compared to what the Axis did, whatever the Allies did was positively saintly. Not that this excuses those atrocities, I'm just saying that the Allies(not including the USSR) do indeed have the moral high ground.


DUde, I like my evil playthroughs every now and then, but I'd rather we not become a dictator here.

We don't have to be a dictator to not be an "attack dog". They're not mutually exclusive, we can be a dictator and still be an attack dog for the Western powers. Early South Korea stands out as a prime example of a dictstorship tolerated because the alternative was Communism.

I'd much rather we be a George Washington, anyways.
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Nah being Dictator means doesn't qualify as evil take out Britain too only USA had any justifiable Moral ground.

When I mean leader you lead men not some Western powers soldiers or Axis for the matter.
 
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Detective Raven said:
As per they don't compare dude go and hit a history book about what they did in India or USSR for the matter.
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I have. Plenty. Hence why I stand by what I said: It. Doesn't. REMOTELY compare.


Detective Raven said:
Now you are pulling worlds the African Nations would just be dictator anyway.
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This attitude right here? PERFECT example by what I said about us being just another Colonialist asshole in that case.
"Oh, your country was always gonna be Dictatorship anyway, so I will become Dictator myself because I know better what is best for you than you ever could."
Yeah, no. Just NO.

But let's agree to disagree, I don't want to derail the thread.
 
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Alexander Sturnn said:
But I still want to bond with a jewish Holocaust Survivor to show the Nazis first hand the failure of their racial superiority bullshit.
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Not to side with Nazi's, but I don't think that would really disprove their racism. The symbiote's an alien parasite, not a biological trait inherent to Ethnic Jews or any race, so... it's more of a random thing than anything related to race. We could just as easily have been joined to a Nazi officer(though that's obviously not happening).

Detective Raven said:
As per they don't compare dude go and hit a history book about what they did in India or USSR for the matter.
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No one's denying that what Britain and the USSR did was right, we're just saying that they(not including USSR)still have the moral high ground over the Axis.

Detective Raven said:
Nah being Dictator means doesn't qualify as evil take out Britain too only USA had any justifiable Moral ground.
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EH... The problem with dictatorship is what happens when the dictator passes away. After Josip Broz Tito, one of the "best" dictators in history, passed away, Yugoslavia went to the gutter real fast.

Dictator doesn't equal evil, yes, but most of the time it can be.

Detective Raven said:
Now you are pulling worlds the African Nations would just be dictator anyway.
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No, not really. If the powers-that-be had bothered actually helping the colonies prepare for independence, then the various Communist and other Totalitarian dictstorships that seized Africa would probably never have happened.

It's why Botswana came out relatively far ahead of other African nations. That and because Sir Seretse Khama was an absolute chad.
 
Alexander Sturnn said:
I have. Plenty. Hence why I stand by what I said: It. Doesn't. REMOTELY compare.



This attitude right here? PERFECT example by what I said about being us just another Colonialist asshole in that case.
"Oh, your country was always gonna be Dictatorships anyway, so I will become Dictator myself because I know better what is best for you than you ever could."
Yeah, no. Just NO.

But let's agree to disagree, I don't want to derail the thread.
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Yeah colonist asshole buddy go on pull more accusations as you wish yet you hold Moral High ground towards the colonisers.

How is giving power to the native revolutionary so they can improve people live is being is colonist asshole.

If anything you are being a massive Jerk and Colonial apologist and underrate any suffering the third world Nations had.

I prefer you don't continue this conversation.
 
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Detective Raven said:
Yeah colonist asshole buddy go on pull more accusations as you wish yet you hold Moral High towards the colonisers.

How is giving power to the native revolutionary so they can improve people live is being is colonist asshole.

If anything you are being a massive Jerk and colonist apologist and underrate any suffering the third world Nations had.

I prefer you don't continue this conversation.
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Okay, I honestly think you didn't make clear enough what you were talking about, because if THAT was your argument, it's not at ALL what I got from your prior comments.
 
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