There was a Spi...dea. (Sony, Spider-Man Producer Quest)

I'm not a huge fan of making the Infamous characters being mutants. We have a chance of making a universe that has a bit more originality to it, so I'm not really in favor of buying the X-Men here. But I do like the idea of buying the Fantastic Four.

[X] Jackie Chan himself had come in, wanting to direct the movie, surprisingly enough. He wanted to make it... just a fun martial arts movie.
 
I'm not a huge fan of making the Infamous characters being mutants. We have a chance of making a universe that has a bit more originality to it, so I'm not really in favor of buying the X-Men here. But I do like the idea of buying the Fantastic Four.

[X] Jackie Chan himself had come in, wanting to direct the movie, surprisingly enough. He wanted to make it... just a fun martial arts movie.
Hmm, you know they wouldn't be mutants, that the idea is that the conductors are in a way our version of mutants.


If we get the right of the x-men, most likely we can use their characters and everything, but not make them mutants (something like marvel did with the scarlet witch and quicksilver ... I don't remember what it's called)


but the confirmation of @Yite is missing

fun fact: conductors(I don't know if that's how they are told in English) in Spanish is "conductores" which translates to drivers
 
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If you don't get a crit, you won't be able to call them Mutants. Sorry for not confirming that earlier, I was asleep.
 
ideas
mine are:
1 conductors gene mutation
2.experiments on many (hundreds or thousands of people) that caused their lineage to have some probability of having a power
2.1 the experiment is related to the conductors gene and its capacity
2.3 has no relation to conductors
3. is related to magic
3.1 some people in the middle ages were blessed with the ability to have powers and their descendants also to develop powers


other ideas?
 
I'm not a huge fan of making the Infamous characters being mutants. We have a chance of making a universe that has a bit more originality to it, so I'm not really in favor of buying the X-Men here. But I do like the idea of buying the Fantastic Four.
I mean, making them mutants, or at least tangentially related ala homo insectus, was just one of the ideas on the table.

For example, I'm in favor of it either having mystical origins in a similar vein to D&D Genasi Sorcerers or AtLA's various bending factions, or something deliberately introduced into the human genome by one of the various extant factions in Marvel, such as Alchemax or Roxxon [with another villain to back it]...but all of this precludes what other franchises we can get our hands on, such as Assassin's Creed, Ben 10, Dresden Files, Percy Jackson or Worm, at which point we need to consider how many origins for superpowers we want to include and how they correlate to one another; Enhanced [Mutate], Mutants, Inhumans, Sages, Demigods, Parahumans, etc., how much of it ties back to genetic manipulations by the Celestials/Entities/Kree/Isu/Humans or back to the openly fantastical days when the gods still yet roamed among us mere mortals.

Gotta ask those questions before the audience starts drifting away due to narrative complexity [like they did OTL with the Eternals], and we have to drag them back with near pure spectacle.

[EDIT: ...wait, was the complaint less the origin or more about narrative purpose?]
Conductors? They're Conduits.
I think it's a language thing, since they mentioned a Spanish translation.
 
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Conductors? They're Conduits.
I think it's a language thing, since they mentioned a Spanish translation.
yep, it's a thing of the language,
conduict sounds weird in my language and my head automatically translates it to conductores/ conductors

it would sound something like:
Conduects in American English,and it sounds very ridiculous

and why does it bother you so much?

it does not affect you at all
 
Sorry, didn't mean to sound sharp.

Just thought you'd gotten the name wrong, and was trying to help.

Anyway... Voting ends in 1 hour.
 
I mean, making them mutants, or at least tangentially related ala homo insectus, was just one of the ideas on the table.

For example, I'm in favor of it either having mystical origins in a similar vein to D&D Genasi Sorcerers or AtLA's various bending factions, or something deliberately introduced into the human genome by one of the various extant factions in Marvel, such as Alchemax or Roxxon [with another villain to back it]...but all of this precludes what other franchises we can get our hands on, such as Assassin's Creed, Ben 10, Dresden Files, Percy Jackson or Worm, at which point we need to consider how many origins for superpowers we want to include and how they correlate to one another; Enhanced [Mutate], Mutants, Inhumans, Sages, Demigods, Parahumans, etc., how much of it ties back to genetic manipulations by the Celestials/Entities/Kree/Isu/Humans or back to the openly fantastical days when the gods still yet roamed among us mere mortals.

Gotta ask those questions before the audience starts drifting away due to narrative complexity [like they did OTL with the Eternals], and we have to drag them back with near pure spectacle.

[EDIT: ...wait, was the complaint less the origin or more about narrative purpose?]

I think it's a language thing, since they mentioned a Spanish translation.
An easy explanation of how humanity has so many different avenues of powers and abilities is that in the far distant past an alien race gave humanity the gift of "Flexible Potential" meaning that humans for the most part are have the small chance to be unique. Be it the old Chinese phrase "may you live in interesting times", or have that spark of greatness in them aka the badass normals.
Now onto characters from the xmen or Marvel in general that could play into future films has to be Deadpool and ForgetMeNot.
 
An easy explanation of how humanity has so many different avenues of powers and abilities is that in the far distant past an alien race gave humanity the gift of "Flexible Potential" meaning that humans for the most part are have the small chance to be unique. Be it the old Chinese phrase "may you live in interesting times", or have that spark of greatness in them aka the badass normals.
Now onto characters from the xmen or Marvel in general that could play into future films has to be Deadpool and ForgetMeNot.
although more than aliens, I think it is better that it is simply something inherent in humanity ..

or do something like the metahumans and dc.

In I do not know what universe, what happened was that the guardians sealed / modified the human DNA so that they do not have access to its full potential, and that originally everyone would have a meta-human power if the guardians had not intervened

although it could be from a fanfic the last thing actually ...

translated into this universe would be that humans can unlock more potential through training / unique events or naturally have more potential unsealed / less restricted that would be mutants, conduicts (the conduict gene would be to have a certain part of potential without unlocking / less sealed)

I know it doesn't work like that IRL but the idea is understood

edit: yes, it's from a fanfic and not from dc canon ... from what I read

the gods, they could be the few humans who were born with their full potential unlocked ...

but if we want that they are not all "human" .. make them related to aliens.

or make them humans who luckily had their full potential unlocked, but through collective belief and others obtained even more power and other things.

passing the boundary between humans and something else.

The demi-gods would be humans who have the same predominant genes as the divine parents and will also absorb some of the supernatural power / whatever they get from the collective human belief of the parents.

If you want, I can better explain what I mean by predominant genes and others.

ps: I know I explained wrong ... if you want I edit everything with a better explanation once I order my thoughts on the idea
 
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Alright, voting has ended and Plan World Anvil won.

Adhoc vote count started by Yite on Jan 12, 2022 at 10:50 PM, finished with 28 posts and 13 votes.
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    [X] Jackie Chan himself had come in, wanting to direct the movie, surprisingly enough. He wanted to make it... just a fun martial arts movie
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    [X] Plan World Anvil
    - [X] Jackie Chan himself had come in, wanting to direct the movie, surprisingly enough. He wanted to make it... just a fun martial arts movie.
    - [X] Convince Sony to negotiate with the studios (Marvel, Fox, and Universal) for the rights of a character. (Roll)
    -- [X] Marvel has a vast majority of the characters, maybe you could try to get one? (Medium Roll) Write-in: The Punisher
    -- [X] FOX has the X-Men and Fantastic Four. Maybe you could get a character from them? (High Roll) Write-in: X-Men and Fantastic Four
 
I have no idea why it's in separate tabs within the tally, though. Is there any way to fix that?
 
Okay here it goes, something better explained (I know genes don't work like that but it's just to explain):

A long, long time ago humans had millions of unique genes, some of those genes gave them a greater connection to their spiritual side, others allowed them to control an element or a material, be stronger than the average human, climb things they shouldn't power, fly and much more.

primitive humans, squandered their gifts and constantly fought among themselves, until certain beings came to planet earth and fearful for the potential of humans, dedicated a great effort to seal them, in the process created creating and leaving innumerable things or beings in the Earth.

but they were not very successful in modifying them and sealing their potential.

which caused all the genes related to controlling elements / materials to weaken and merge into one ... the conduict gene

in other individuals descended from those humans randomly some had the luck or misfortune of naturally having a gene or certain genes and at some point in their life it was naturally activated.

others had them but very inactive and an actively artificial strong is needed

and the most unfortunate did not have them and were just as those beings desired humanity ... or not


as gods and demi-gods and others, because I do not know how to do them (yes, but I am not convinced of the idea)


What do you think ... I know it's horrible, but don't be too harsh with the comments
 
An easy explanation of how humanity has so many different avenues of powers and abilities is that in the far distant past an alien race gave humanity the gift of "Flexible Potential" meaning that humans for the most part are have the small chance to be unique.
What do you think ... I know it's horrible, but don't be too harsh with the comments
The problem with both of these is that it depends so much on the people with these powers as being the most special, to the point they're virtually Chosen Ones, that it goes against one of the core principles behind Spider-Man, that it could be anyone behind that costume.

Additionally, there's an overemphasis on genetics (in the second pitch) being the root cause for powers that it ultimately leads to this weird middleground between Incredibles and My Hero Academia, in that you need to have a specific set of [any number of select] gene to be special enough to have power to stand above mediocrity? That devalues people who work themselves to death trying to rise above themselves and their station, in addition to all sorts of philosophical and societal implications that depict things as terrible for the average person.

It's for that reason I was actually a fan of the idea that all of Marvel's Humanity was special due to circumstances beyond the Celestial's manipulation of ancestral human genetic sequences...even if the Progenitor did it by accident.

But to cap this off, my asking/proposing about what origins Conduits and Mutants share, if any, was to see how we'd explain the difference between the two to the casual audience with no frame of reference for either side and how that would be worked into the narrative.
I have no idea why it's in separate tabs within the tally, though. Is there any way to fix that?
I think that's the new voting interface, and it's only like that because it's counting them as two different voting plans.
 
53- Punisher, Mutants, and Fantastic Four?
[X] Plan World Anvil
- [X] Jackie Chan himself had come in, wanting to direct the movie, surprisingly enough. He wanted to make it... just a fun martial arts movie.
- [X] Convince Sony to negotiate with the studios (Marvel, Fox, and Universal) for the rights of a character. (Roll)
-- [X] Marvel has a vast majority of the characters, maybe you could try to get one? (Medium Roll) Write-in: The Punisher
-- [X] FOX has the X-Men and Fantastic Four. Maybe you could get a character from them? (High Roll) Write-in: X-Men and Fantastic Four

You decided to take Jackie Chan himself on as the director of the Iron Fist movie, he'd certainly make it a lot more fun.

After that, you decided to try and get some other Marvel characters from Marvel itself, and FOX.

You were looking for The Punisher, along with some characters from the Fantastic Four, and X-Men.

But first, you had to see if Sony would agree with it.

Sony Negotiation Roll: 83.

The higher-ups at Sony were happy to see you try and bring in some more characters, thankfully.

And so, you went to Marvel to try and buy the live-action rights to The Punisher from them.

Marvel Negotiation Roll: 110!

Apparently, you were a much better negotiator than you thought, because just like with Daredevil before... they had practically given you the rights to The Punisher, along with every character connected to him.

It was completely legal too.

You know what? You weren't even going to question it.

FOX Negotiation Rolls: 90, 69.

Okay, so you had managed to gain potential access to quite a few Fantastic Four and X-Men characters.

Though, you didn't manage to snag the Fantastic Four themselves, as FOX wanted to at least try and make a reboot, and try to rake in more money. Though, they did say that if the reboot failed, they'd be a lot more open to negotiations later down the line. So, that was good to hear.

Other than that though, they had also given you quite a decent pick of Mutants to choose from, though... you could make inquiries about getting more options, just... not from the headline characters.

Which Mutants do you want? (Pick 5).

[] Ice Man.
[] Mr. Sinister.
[] The Blob.
[] Toad.
[] Mastermind.
[] Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver. (Costs two slots)
[] Scarlet Witch.
[] Quicksilver.
[] Sabertooth.
[] Pyro.
[] Mystique.
[] Rogue.
[] Laura Kinney/X-23.
[] Forge.
[] Gambit.
[] Juggernaut.
[] Deadpool.
[] Emma Frost.
[] Jubilee.
[] Nightcrawler.
[] Azazel.
[] Colossus.
[] Magik.
[] Kitty Pryde.
[] Legion.
[] Apocalypse.
[] Cypher.
[] Cable.
[] Angel.
[] Beast.
[] Mimic.
[] Darwin.
[] Sebastian Shaw.
[] Destiny.
[] Arcade.
[] Selene.
[] Sauron.
[] Shadow King.
[] Bolivar Trask.
[] Sentinels.
[] Morph.
[] Moira Taggart.
[] Maggot.
[] Doorman.
[] Mr. Immortal.
[] Flatman.
[] Big Bertha.
[] Madelyne Pryor.
[] Forget-Me-Not.
[] The Morlocks (Gains the entire group, but costs 2)
[] Write-in: (Can't have Wolverine, Magneto, Professor X, or characters of that popularity)

Which Fantastic Four Characters do you want? (Pick 5).

[] Dr. Doom.
[] Kang The Conqueror.
[] Mole Man.
[] Silver Surfer.
[] Galactus.
[] Skrulls.
[] Puppet Master.
[] Red Ghost.
[] Wizard.
[] Hate-Monger.
[] Molecule Man
[] Psycho-Man.
[] Impossible Man.
[] Paste-Pot-Pete/Trapster.
[] The Beyonder.
[] Write-in: (Can't have the Fantastic Four themselves, but anything else is up for grabs)
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Alright, please. For the love of God, I beg of you, use a Plan.

Also, sorry about having so many options for the X-Men, but... there were so many to use.

Also-Also, 100's are natural crits, while 69's are sort of... soft-crits, they'll give you a better result than you had, but not be as good as a nat 100.

After this, we get to casting, so... any casting ideas? Pop them into either the discord, or the thread!
 
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[X] Plucking Stars
-[X] Dr. Doom
-[X] Kang The Conqueror.
-[X] Silver Surfer.
-[X] Galactus
-[X] Skrulls.
-[X] Deadpool.
-[X] Mystique.
-[X] Emma Frost
-[X] Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver

We need Deadpool, because of his relationship with spiderman
 
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[X] Meet the Villans
-[X] Dr. Doom
-[X] Kang The Conqueror.
-[X] Silver Surfer.
-[X] Galactus
-[X] Skrulls.

[X] Taking their Best
-[X] Deadpool.
-[X] Mystique.
-[X] Emma Frost
-[X] Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver


I made two plans, one for the F4 and one for the X-Men, is this allowed? If not I will change it into one

Also, no matter what you guys do, we need Deadpool, because of his relationship with spiderman

I'd prefer it just be in one plan, to make it easier to tally.
 
[X] Plan Secret Wars Leading To Clone Saga
- [X] Mr. Sinister.
- [X] Scarlet Witch.
- [X] Magik.
- [X] Kitty Pryde
- [X] Madelyne Pryor.
- [X] Dr. Doom.
- [X] Kang The Conqueror.
- [X] Skrulls.
- [X] Hate-Monger.
- [X] The Beyonder.


For Clone Saga, the focus is on the genetic mastery of Mr. Sinister, helped by Madelyne Pryor (our version of MJ, the Goblin Queen?) and Hate-Monger (Boys from Brazil, Hitler Clone), and Secret Wars I want Kang vs Doom, aided by Victorious (Zora Vukovic) and Scarlet Witch (his Valeria?), where we meet GirlBoss Hacker Shadowcat; [EDIT: additionally, Magik's story meshes real well with Dr. Doom and Ghost Rider's given the right narrative setup.] [EDIT2: Changed Victorious to Skrulls, since she won't exist to 2018.]
 
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