A promise to Doran that he will soon get the bleached skull of one Ser Gregor Clegane. We could also send an edict promising gold to any ironborn willing to fight for us (maybe have them intercept the Golden Company at sea).
The Lonely Lioness - Cersei Lannister Quest
- Thread starter Azel
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Ehh. For the first, I'm still concerned about what Tywin's gonna do regarding Gregor.
For the second, I'm concerned about the greyjoys being... erratic, and hitting the westerlands out of spite for trying to order them around or something.
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Anything beyond "leave him alive" is counterproductive, frankly. But then, Tywin has an affinity for Gregor, them both being cruel bastards.
The first's objective is a way to start correspodence with a Lord Paramount that is likely to support a Targaryen in the hope that we can, at least, delay it. Also, by publishing the letter we can also put further pressure on Tywin to hand over Gregor.
The second's objective is not to order the Ironborn, rather, the objective is to buy the services of the ironborn independent captains before the Targs buy them. On the matter of buying the service of sellswords, we could maybe publish another edict promising gold for the head of Targaryen claimants. I mean, their armies seem to be formed by sellswords and traitors two the demographics that are quite prone to quit once things turn against them.
We could also start a correspondance with the Most Devout? The High Septon seems to be losing his hold on the church so, at least, knowing what the Devout want could be helpfull.
We could also start a correspondance with the Most Devout? The High Septon seems to be losing his hold on the church so, at least, knowing what the Devout want could be helpfull.
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Yeah, if Tywin were half as cunning as he thinks he is, he would have denounce Gregor's actions on the Sack of King's Landing and then beheaded him before he could say that he was following Tywin's orders.
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Horn of Winter gets blown, and the Wall comes down, inside of a month.
Honestly, would an earlier white walker invasion be a bad thing? Sure, people would still be more divided but there'd be a lot less dead soldiers.
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[] Plan: Personal Power
-[] Expand your own guard and maybe get a few good knights to protect you when the Kings Guard is away.
-[] Try to recruit some trusted informants of your own.
-[] Write to Lord Paramount Robb Stark: Express relief that the brief, misfortunate conflict between our houses was resolved without war and sorrow that it soured the late Robert's intent to tie our houses together. Still, the crown holds no animosity towards the North, and yet again offers a royal marriage to express the friendship Robert wanted of us. Should he be willing, instead of a northern queen, Robb himself might take young Myrcella for his lady once she comes of age, and let the Realm be stronger than ever together.
Okay, maybe not both, but I think Cersei really needs to expand her personal power. Either get her own spies or takeover Petyrs holdings while he's gone. Otherwise, maybe investigate Petyrs finances and shady dealings.
Also extend the offer of a royal marriage to Robb. Do y'all have ideas for more letters we could write, things we could ask Pycelle or the High Septon to do?
-[] Expand your own guard and maybe get a few good knights to protect you when the Kings Guard is away.
-[] Try to recruit some trusted informants of your own.
-[] Write to Lord Paramount Robb Stark: Express relief that the brief, misfortunate conflict between our houses was resolved without war and sorrow that it soured the late Robert's intent to tie our houses together. Still, the crown holds no animosity towards the North, and yet again offers a royal marriage to express the friendship Robert wanted of us. Should he be willing, instead of a northern queen, Robb himself might take young Myrcella for his lady once she comes of age, and let the Realm be stronger than ever together.
Okay, maybe not both, but I think Cersei really needs to expand her personal power. Either get her own spies or takeover Petyrs holdings while he's gone. Otherwise, maybe investigate Petyrs finances and shady dealings.
Also extend the offer of a royal marriage to Robb. Do y'all have ideas for more letters we could write, things we could ask Pycelle or the High Septon to do?
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Could we order Pycelle to do the Targ research action? History *is* supposed to be the maester's job.
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Maybe Varys instead? Their personal history would mostly be in Essos have to be discovered by agents abroad. Pycelle and the maesters would lean towards scholarly history.
Maybe we could ask Pycelle to assist Cersei in investigating covering for the maester of coins absence? He can probably do that job adequately.
Caught up to everything and damn there are lots of problems. Targs or claiming to be Targs showing up and having these little rebellions while others making moves in Essos. Not to mention Blackfryes.
Little surprised by the moves of the Royces. Doing their own little rebellion against the Baratheons and Arryns? Pretty bold of them to do that even with that marriage if it's even a real Targ. And Lysa being Lysa as always.
Honestly there is so much to do and not enough actions. Making our own personal power, looking at the money, everything in the Riverlands, the Faith in Oldtown, Dorne and stuff happening in the Crownlands.
Little surprised by the moves of the Royces. Doing their own little rebellion against the Baratheons and Arryns? Pretty bold of them to do that even with that marriage if it's even a real Targ. And Lysa being Lysa as always.
Honestly there is so much to do and not enough actions. Making our own personal power, looking at the money, everything in the Riverlands, the Faith in Oldtown, Dorne and stuff happening in the Crownlands.
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Not sure if this is meta-knowledge, but Varys is himself angling for a restoration, so I'm not sure we could trust any information on Targ claimants we got from him to be true.
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There is no marriage you are aware of. They are simply backing a Targ claimant much like the Pointsmen are doing.
Huh then even more a surprise. Supporting a female "Targ" with little support if you think about it in the Seven Kingdoms size. Hmmm I'm sensing something fishy and it isn't just the situation in the Riverlands talking.
[] Plan Missing Finger
-[] Dig into Littlefingers books. The crown is in debt and you need to know how bad it really is.
-[] Talking with Baelish gave a good insight into how his businesses work. Now that he is away from court, you could try to subvert some of his agents for your own ends.
-[] Drink some Shade. Maybe it will let you rest again. (Free Action)
-[] Write to Lord Paramount Robb Stark: Express relief that the brief, misfortunate conflict between our houses was resolved without war and sorrow that it soured the late Robert's intent to tie our houses together. Still, the crown holds no animosity towards the North, and yet again offers a royal marriage to express the friendship Robert wanted of us. Should he be willing, instead of a northern queen, Robb himself might take young Myrcella for his lady once she comes of age, and let the Realm be stronger than ever together.
Well, here's my current idea for a plan.
-[] Dig into Littlefingers books. The crown is in debt and you need to know how bad it really is.
-[] Talking with Baelish gave a good insight into how his businesses work. Now that he is away from court, you could try to subvert some of his agents for your own ends.
-[] Drink some Shade. Maybe it will let you rest again. (Free Action)
-[] Write to Lord Paramount Robb Stark: Express relief that the brief, misfortunate conflict between our houses was resolved without war and sorrow that it soured the late Robert's intent to tie our houses together. Still, the crown holds no animosity towards the North, and yet again offers a royal marriage to express the friendship Robert wanted of us. Should he be willing, instead of a northern queen, Robb himself might take young Myrcella for his lady once she comes of age, and let the Realm be stronger than ever together.
Well, here's my current idea for a plan.
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I mean yeah, but we can't do anything about Arya. A royal marriage in which we entrust Myrcella to Winterfell rather than Sansa to the Red Keep is about the highest extension of reconciliation we can offer. If he refuses there's nothing more we can do really.
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Is it known that Arya is missing? I suppose it must be, since we gave up Sansa and the implication of not doing the same with Arya is pretty obvious. Not to mention that Ned and Sansa can tell people they don't know where Arya is. Given that, do we want to promise Robb Crown resources to the end of finding her and restoring her to her family?
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Searching back, Varys was aware Arya escaped but there's been no word of her since, or at least Robb hasn't said anything if she made it back.
Empress_Boog
Grand Empress
Do we even have those resources to offer? We are pretty busy with the "Targaryen" wave headed right toward us, and we should be putting any extra resources into that.
the Targaryens are just about coming out of the wood work now
I hope Arya isn't somehow in Harrenhall with both Tywin and the Mountain in there.
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The fact that literally every LP in the region is choosing to give us the silent treatment is rather unfortunate, to say the least. At least we've managed to prevent an actual war from breaking out between them (yet). Although the fact that Robb's hanging around with an army in Saltpans is, uh, not encouraging.
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Oh? I'd thought that guy one of the most promising Targ claimants, looks like he got taken off the board violently. And it leaves the Blackfyre wielder without an immediate rival.
She's certainly racked up her share of sins.
Well, that whole plan could have gone a lot better.
Yeah, everyone's sick of this mess in and out of character.
Why the hell is that damn trout giving us the silent treatment? I'm seriously about to consider handing off the Hand position to someone else, because we could really use the help. But he hasn't said no either - ugh, the whole thing's just very frustrating.
Okay, it seems Joffrey's linked up with a bunch of people and is now riding to the Crownlands. Shame he couldn't earn any glory fighting Clegane, but he might still be able to earn his spurs against Cearn.
Yeah, I was kinda hoping the Mountain might knock off a few of the less impressive members. We could use some fresh blood.
Well, this is interesting - no trial by combat, it seems, although he may still be accompanied by Bronn. I wonder if Jaime was also involved? Still, the sooner that damn Imp is back behind friendly lines, the better.
Or he's up to something else? Christ, Jaime, will nobody just tell us what's going on?
Right, looks like things are about to kick off - and Cersei seems confident Olenna took the deal. Gods willing, the Reach will declare for us, and from there our position in Westeros becomes infinitely more secure, even if dealing with the Tyrells will become a big headache.
Ugh, looks like Lysa's throwing around accusations that can't be taken back. And I thought he was guilty of trying to murder Bran Stark? There was the whole plotline with his knife and all, that's why Catelyn was after him. Who knows, maybe's Lysa's just throwing around accusations - but it's shit that cannot be taken back. One way or another, we're going to have to send an army to the Vale.
Okay, I didn't expect this. What the hell is Royce up to, pulling a stunt like this? I hardly took him for a Targ loyalist or an opportunist, and the Graftons were supposed to be on bad terms with them after the Rebellion. The entire Vale's just lost their damn mind, it seems. Who the hell knows what Baelish is up to at this point.
Ugh, what a headache. Tywin got to Gregor first and no doubt will refuse to hand him over, and Robb's just wandering around with an army and no apparent purpose. I think we need to address the matter somehow, although it's tempting to defer until other fires have been put out.
Gods willing, he'll zerg off to the North for no reason again. Although I suspect we won't be quite so lucky.
No battle yet. With reinforcements approaching, playing for time is in our favor, although I'd like to see this pretender ejected sooner than later, because there will be more.
Well, this is unexpected. And good! Stannis's fleet has been damaged, and the blockade on the Blackwater must be disrupted. Curious what happened to Selyse and Shireen - I assume they were taken hostage?
Well, looks like our plan to use the Faith for PR turned out a flop. That's ... frustrating, if ultimately not a huge setback. Guess the High Septon can go back to sitting in a corner.
Well, it seems we've managed to gum up Renly's plans to at least some extent. It remains to be seen if the Tyrells will declare for us, but this is still a win - a combined Reach-Stormlands host marching on KL is an apocalyptic scenario for our unsteady regime, and any amount of time bought to prepare is in our interest.
Yeah yeah, blah blah, we'll come down and kill you all whenever it's convenient. I'll be talking to the Yronwoods in the meantime!
Well, this is concerning. Hopefully they're inclined to fight our Essosi rivals instead of trying to back a pretender of their own? We should try and do some diplomacy first, though - we've bought some goodwill from the bank, might as well use it.
I suspect this might be the most dangerous of the Essosi pretenders, and might also be the reason the Braavosi are alarmed. One way or another, expect the Golden Company to be sailing across the Narrow Sea before the crisis is through - best we have our own fleet up and running first.
[X] Plan: Playing For Time
-[X] Call for hedge knights and sellswords to generate further troops. Promise wealth and lands of traitors.
-[X] Learn more about Shade of the Evening and what the dreams it brings might mean.
-[X] Drink some Shade. Maybe it will let you rest again. (Free Action)
-[X] Letter: Write to Dragonstone, recently occupied by one 'Aukar Brightfyre,' apparently in league with Cearn Targaryen. But there can only be one King of Westeros - perhaps there's an opportunity to be exploited? Sound out what exactly the foreign invader is after; whether he's intent on claiming the Iron Throne or assisting another in doing so, or if the man is open to cutting a deal with the Baratheon-Lannister regime. Also inquire as to the dates of Shireen and Seylse Baratheon, and if he would be willing to accept a ransom for King Joffrey's bereaved relatives.
-[X] Letter: Write to Yronwood. House Martell is beginning to openly court rebellion, but not every Dornish House might be so enthusiastic for another northern excursion for Martell royalist delusions. And even if the Yronwoods are not open to an arrangement, publicly courting them will still place pressure on Sunspear and remind them of the potential costs of intervening in the current succession conflict.
-[X] Letter: Write to Braavos, inquiring as to the nature of the Free City's recent militarization. You will have hopefully bought some goodwill with your prompt response to the Iron Bank; see if the bankers can be convinced to get your envoys an in with the Sealord and more than platitudes for their time. Assuming they aren't blown off and the Braavosi aims are not hostile to that of the Iron Throne's, broach the idea of cooperating against targets of mutual hostility.
-[X] Letter: Send an Envoy to Myr; as one of the only Free Cities not to host some manner of Mummer's Dragon and with its holdings in the Disputed Lands under threat by one of the more threatening examples, the City of Glass may be open to cooperation with the Iron Throne. Promise the Conclave of Magisters various trade concessions and the possibility of more direct assistance in the future should they strike against 'Visenya Redfyre.'
-[X] Letter: Write to Pyke; inquiring to Lord-Paramount Balon Greyjoy as to whether he'd allow his captains to accept letters of mark against foes of the Iron Throne, given that there are many in the Narrow Sea at the moment. It will also serve as an opportunity to test the allegiance of the thus-far mercurial ironborn.
With the Point in revolt, we've got a handy source of free land to offer once they're defeated, and an injection of sellswords and hedge knights could tilt the odds in our favor with the relatively close battle forming up at the moment.
Meanwhile, I'm inclined to further investigate and use the Shade of the Evening. It helps keep Cersei stable, but we need to learn more about it if we're gonna keep using it - and it might help make sense of the visions.
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