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The Dragon Roars: A KMT Quest
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Introduction, An Old Man's Crusade
nachtingale
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The Dragon Roars: A KMT Quest
"Decades of futile effort have not dampened my bold aspirations to save the nation. Instead, my heart grieves at the suffering of the Chinese people."
- Dr. Sun Yat-Sen
"Decades of futile effort have not dampened my bold aspirations to save the nation. Instead, my heart grieves at the suffering of the Chinese people."
- Dr. Sun Yat-Sen
The old man watched with bleary eyes as the men, no, his men marched across the barren desert of the Northwest, faces darkened physically from the ash and soot of war, unable to be cleaned as they continued to beat their hasty retreat from the enemy, who seemed to appear from all directions simultaneously, with little warning.
He looked at the people who now followed him, faces of men and women who hailed from every corner of China, from the Tibetan Mountains to the Yellow Sea, from the Pearl Delta to the Mongolian Steppe, which once bore that youthful spirit of the revolution, now downcast and ever the more homesick. Soldiers whose worn boots and dirty uniforms, clothes and equipment which seem to have impossibly aged decades in four short, yet bloody years.
Between the columns, refugees coalesced amidst the ranks of the soldiers, seeking protection from the bandits which roamed the lawless countryside and eager to escape the retribution from the coalition armies for having ever affiliated themselves with the revolution, whether willingly or not. He grimaced at the thought. The revolution has devoured, it would seem.
Yet even then, the looks of despondency intermixed themselves with those of grim determination. Men and women who still smiled as bright as ever when the uprising began, whose optimism He himself still believed he shared, warmed his heart like gasoline to a waning campfire.
"Sir, we must continue on." A voice gently reminded from behind him, he looked back towards one of his young lieutenants, a spritely fellow from Shanghai if he was not mistaken.
"Indeed we must, let us go."
As he left, the old man gave himself one last glance towards the banners which marched slowly towards his general direction, the bright sun across a blue field shined brighter than ever, even with the mud and grime it now adorned.
Sun Yat-Sen's Revolution had only just begun.
He looked at the people who now followed him, faces of men and women who hailed from every corner of China, from the Tibetan Mountains to the Yellow Sea, from the Pearl Delta to the Mongolian Steppe, which once bore that youthful spirit of the revolution, now downcast and ever the more homesick. Soldiers whose worn boots and dirty uniforms, clothes and equipment which seem to have impossibly aged decades in four short, yet bloody years.
Between the columns, refugees coalesced amidst the ranks of the soldiers, seeking protection from the bandits which roamed the lawless countryside and eager to escape the retribution from the coalition armies for having ever affiliated themselves with the revolution, whether willingly or not. He grimaced at the thought. The revolution has devoured, it would seem.
Yet even then, the looks of despondency intermixed themselves with those of grim determination. Men and women who still smiled as bright as ever when the uprising began, whose optimism He himself still believed he shared, warmed his heart like gasoline to a waning campfire.
"Sir, we must continue on." A voice gently reminded from behind him, he looked back towards one of his young lieutenants, a spritely fellow from Shanghai if he was not mistaken.
"Indeed we must, let us go."
As he left, the old man gave himself one last glance towards the banners which marched slowly towards his general direction, the bright sun across a blue field shined brighter than ever, even with the mud and grime it now adorned.
Sun Yat-Sen's Revolution had only just begun.
A Brief Summation of Recent Chinese History
It has been 4 years since the Jiachen Uprising successfully sparked the revolutionary wave which swept across China, making a mockery out of the idolatrous Taiping Kingdom and the corrupt Qing. The weakness of the Qing government due to the previous Fourth Opium War meant that the Guangxu Emperor only had three or so armies at his disposal to respond to the revolutionary threat. Newly trained forces and cadets had quickly defected during the initial wave of nationalistic fervor fomented by the Tongmenhui and so, the Qing ordered the First Army under Yuan Shikai to engage the Republicans while the Guangxu Emperor withdrew north. The Taiping state, corrupt and unstable and now without British support, crumbled alongside the Manchurian dynasty.
Our Republican forces were on the verge of victory, the gates of Beijing so dearly close, when Russian forces stormed in from Manchuria in 1906. Their conflict with the Japanese had been brought to a conclusion by Qing intervention in their favor, followed by the signing of the Sino-Russo alliance. The Qing and Russians repulsed the Republicans with Yuan Shikai taking over the regional command. In 1908, intervention by France, Germany and Britain in backing a Han revolt in Fuzhou further sealed the fate of the Taiping, forced into the Qin mountains and the Sichuan valleys. Republican forces, defeated by foreign intervention, would be forced to withdraw westwards where the friendly Ma houses welcomed their arrival.
The timely assemblage of the involved powers at the Conference of Hong Kong would, at the very least, signal an end to official armed conflict, as all eyes now turned towards the concerning growth of the syndicalist insurrection in the United States. Yet that does not mean peace for the Chinese people, as raids across borders, political intrigue and backstabbing as well as economic warfare are all commonplace and it is only a matter of time before a crisis may blow up in the region…
It has been 4 years since the Jiachen Uprising successfully sparked the revolutionary wave which swept across China, making a mockery out of the idolatrous Taiping Kingdom and the corrupt Qing. The weakness of the Qing government due to the previous Fourth Opium War meant that the Guangxu Emperor only had three or so armies at his disposal to respond to the revolutionary threat. Newly trained forces and cadets had quickly defected during the initial wave of nationalistic fervor fomented by the Tongmenhui and so, the Qing ordered the First Army under Yuan Shikai to engage the Republicans while the Guangxu Emperor withdrew north. The Taiping state, corrupt and unstable and now without British support, crumbled alongside the Manchurian dynasty.
Our Republican forces were on the verge of victory, the gates of Beijing so dearly close, when Russian forces stormed in from Manchuria in 1906. Their conflict with the Japanese had been brought to a conclusion by Qing intervention in their favor, followed by the signing of the Sino-Russo alliance. The Qing and Russians repulsed the Republicans with Yuan Shikai taking over the regional command. In 1908, intervention by France, Germany and Britain in backing a Han revolt in Fuzhou further sealed the fate of the Taiping, forced into the Qin mountains and the Sichuan valleys. Republican forces, defeated by foreign intervention, would be forced to withdraw westwards where the friendly Ma houses welcomed their arrival.
The timely assemblage of the involved powers at the Conference of Hong Kong would, at the very least, signal an end to official armed conflict, as all eyes now turned towards the concerning growth of the syndicalist insurrection in the United States. Yet that does not mean peace for the Chinese people, as raids across borders, political intrigue and backstabbing as well as economic warfare are all commonplace and it is only a matter of time before a crisis may blow up in the region…
A/N: This is a quest based off of an old concept my friends and I once discussed as a GSRPG, of a world not to dissimilar to ours, yet different in many ways, so called the "King's Shilling Timeline". And so, now I have decided to bring it to life as a nation quest instead! Enjoy.
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The World in 1908
nachtingale
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The World of King's Shilling.
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Turn 1, A Republic in Crisis. (1908)
nachtingale
19. On that "honk, mimimi" type beat everyday.
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The Republic of China in 1908
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The National Situation is Critical
The Stability of the State is Perilous
The Economic Situation is Bad and Worsening
The Internal Legitimacy of the Republic is Decent but Declining
The Foreign Legitimacy of the Republic is Questionable
The Army is Fanatically Loyal and Battle-hardened but Murderous
The Ma Families are Loyal
The Mood of the Left Faction of the KMT is Murderous
The Mood of the Right Faction of the KMT is Despondent
The Legislative Yuan is Riotous
Sun Yat-sen's Health is Excellent with no signs of decline
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There is currently no ongoing conflict in China.
With the retreat of the Republican forces into the Northwest, we find ourselves in a critical situation, as though the failure of the Revolution's complete goals have created a stir within our own ranks, that we have not been completely annihilated is but a small blessing for the continued blooming of the Nationalist project.
Yet now with the revolution left incomplete, we must now look to consolidate our current gains. But where do we start?
[Pick 2] (Additional Options will appear after this vote.)
[] [The Internal Situation] Bandits, deserters and mercenaries still roam the de jure territories of the Republic of China, we must deal with this immediately if we are to show ourselves to be the rightful liberators of these lands.
[] [The Party Situation] The Kuomintang has been a quarrelsome bunch even in the best of times, though tempered with nationalist fervor, the debate rages on between the disciples of Marx and Smith. If the Republic is to survive, we must endeavor to heal this divide one way or the other before it consumes us all.
[] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond.
[] [Chinese Diplomacy] Our friends are few even within our own backyard. Though we may have shed blood with each other, perhaps our connection as fellow peoples of China will be able to ameliorate some of the fractured states to cooperate with us.
[] [Foreign Diplomacy] Though the Republic's borders have been recognized through the ceasefire negotiated at Hong Kong, our legitimacy in the eyes of the world still teeters on the brink, with each competing Chinese faction claiming themselves to be the sole ruler of the entire whole of the nation. Though we may claim to be the true successor to China, we should seek to establish formal relations with the rest of the world to enforce this claim.
[] [The Military Situation] Though the National Revolutionary Army maintains its fervent nationalism and loyalty to the state, its leadership remains restless as it wishes for the revolution to be continued immediately, calling for blood at every opportune moment. Though we admire their passion, it is perhaps somewhat concerning, and should be a matter taken quite seriously, less it jeopardize our democratic ideals.
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The National Situation is Critical
The Stability of the State is Perilous
The Economic Situation is Bad and Worsening
The Internal Legitimacy of the Republic is Decent but Declining
The Foreign Legitimacy of the Republic is Questionable
The Army is Fanatically Loyal and Battle-hardened but Murderous
The Ma Families are Loyal
The Mood of the Left Faction of the KMT is Murderous
The Mood of the Right Faction of the KMT is Despondent
The Legislative Yuan is Riotous
Sun Yat-sen's Health is Excellent with no signs of decline
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There is currently no ongoing conflict in China.
With the retreat of the Republican forces into the Northwest, we find ourselves in a critical situation, as though the failure of the Revolution's complete goals have created a stir within our own ranks, that we have not been completely annihilated is but a small blessing for the continued blooming of the Nationalist project.
Yet now with the revolution left incomplete, we must now look to consolidate our current gains. But where do we start?
[Pick 2] (Additional Options will appear after this vote.)
[] [The Internal Situation] Bandits, deserters and mercenaries still roam the de jure territories of the Republic of China, we must deal with this immediately if we are to show ourselves to be the rightful liberators of these lands.
[] [The Party Situation] The Kuomintang has been a quarrelsome bunch even in the best of times, though tempered with nationalist fervor, the debate rages on between the disciples of Marx and Smith. If the Republic is to survive, we must endeavor to heal this divide one way or the other before it consumes us all.
[] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond.
[] [Chinese Diplomacy] Our friends are few even within our own backyard. Though we may have shed blood with each other, perhaps our connection as fellow peoples of China will be able to ameliorate some of the fractured states to cooperate with us.
[] [Foreign Diplomacy] Though the Republic's borders have been recognized through the ceasefire negotiated at Hong Kong, our legitimacy in the eyes of the world still teeters on the brink, with each competing Chinese faction claiming themselves to be the sole ruler of the entire whole of the nation. Though we may claim to be the true successor to China, we should seek to establish formal relations with the rest of the world to enforce this claim.
[] [The Military Situation] Though the National Revolutionary Army maintains its fervent nationalism and loyalty to the state, its leadership remains restless as it wishes for the revolution to be continued immediately, calling for blood at every opportune moment. Though we admire their passion, it is perhaps somewhat concerning, and should be a matter taken quite seriously, less it jeopardize our democratic ideals.
[X] [The Internal Situation] Bandits, deserters and mercenaries still roam the de jure territories of the Republic of China, we must deal with this immediately if we are to show ourselves to be the rightful liberators of these lands.
[X] [The Party Situation] The Kuomintang has been a quarrelsome bunch even in the best of times, though tempered with nationalist fervor, the debate rages on between the disciples of Marx and Smith. If the Republic is to survive, we must endeavor to heal this divide one way or the other before it consumes us all.
deal with internal problems first
[X] [The Party Situation] The Kuomintang has been a quarrelsome bunch even in the best of times, though tempered with nationalist fervor, the debate rages on between the disciples of Marx and Smith. If the Republic is to survive, we must endeavor to heal this divide one way or the other before it consumes us all.
deal with internal problems first
nachtingale
19. On that "honk, mimimi" type beat everyday.
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Oh yeah, voting is open, I'll see what kind of reception this gets before closing this first vote
[X] [The Internal Situation] Bandits, deserters and mercenaries still roam the de jure territories of the Republic of China, we must deal with this immediately if we are to show ourselves to be the rightful liberators of these lands.
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond.
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond.
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[X] [The Internal Situation] Bandits, deserters and mercenaries still roam the de jure territories of the Republic of China, we must deal with this immediately if we are to show ourselves to be the rightful liberators of these lands.
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond.
"It's the economy, stupid!"
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond.
"It's the economy, stupid!"
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[X] [The Internal Situation] Bandits, deserters and mercenaries still roam the de jure territories of the Republic of China, we must deal with this immediately if we are to show ourselves to be the rightful liberators of these lands.
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond.
Its a toss up between this and and the internal situation of the party, but with the army's morale still high and the good Doctor himself still alive, I'm gambling that nothing major will happen until the next turn.
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That and the idea of a China with a developed Northwest appeals to me.
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond.
Its a toss up between this and and the internal situation of the party, but with the army's morale still high and the good Doctor himself still alive, I'm gambling that nothing major will happen until the next turn.
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That and the idea of a China with a developed Northwest appeals to me.
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[X] [The Internal Situation] Bandits, deserters and mercenaries still roam the de jure territories of the Republic of China, we must deal with this immediately if we are to show ourselves to be the rightful liberators of these lands.
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond
[X] [The Internal Situation] Bandits, deserters and mercenaries still roam the de jure territories of the Republic of China, we must deal with this immediately if we are to show ourselves to be the rightful liberators of these lands.
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond
sure, this seems reasonable.
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond
sure, this seems reasonable.
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[X] [The Internal Situation] Bandits, deserters and mercenaries still roam the de jure territories of the Republic of China, we must deal with this immediately if we are to show ourselves to be the rightful liberators of these lands.
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond
[X] [The Internal Situation] Bandits, deserters and mercenaries still roam the de jure territories of the Republic of China, we must deal with this immediately if we are to show ourselves to be the rightful liberators of these lands.
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond.
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond.
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[X] [The Internal Situation] Bandits, deserters and mercenaries still roam the de jure territories of the Republic of China, we must deal with this immediately if we are to show ourselves to be the rightful liberators of these lands.
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond
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There are more things between Heaven and Earth...
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[X] [The Internal Situation] Bandits, deserters and mercenaries still roam the de jure territories of the Republic of China, we must deal with this immediately if we are to show ourselves to be the rightful liberators of these lands.
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond
This looks awesome
[X] [The Economic Situation] The Northwest has never been a bountiful land, the Gobi desert and general geographic position leaving it a poor choice for easy economic development. And yet, it is all we have left, and we cannot afford to be picky at this time. If the Republic is to survive and thrive in its current circumstances, we must ensure that we have the industries to propel ourselves even further beyond
This looks awesome
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nachtingale
19. On that "honk, mimimi" type beat everyday.
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Thank you all for the kind reception!
Turn 1.5
nachtingale
19. On that "honk, mimimi" type beat everyday.
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- He/They
[X] [The Internal Situation]
[X] [The Economic Situation]
[X] [The Economic Situation]
And now for the options for what to do before we enter the next turn.
Of all the wrongs of the world, it is perhaps the most sickening offense for one to seek to harm and injure the meek and defenseless, to see your fellow person, and think not first to show kindness, but instead furious barbarity for some meager individual benefit. Yet the the strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must. For what recourse do the weak themselves have against the mighty?
That is what must be answered, now and immediately with no argument, for the betterment of the people as a whole. The ineptitude and overextension of the administrations of the former monarchs over these lands are now at display for the KMT to see, as people of all walks of life turn to any and all means of securing for themselves a decent living, even violence.
Now, as the years have gone by, that administration has only steadily declined, ensuring that the anti-Qing and anti-Taiping sentiments remain one of the strongest in all of China. With authority non-existent save for what the Ma families could maintain in their own small fiefdoms - though some wonder how much of that authority lays in their own involvement in more insidious business ventures, but that is for another time perhaps - it is now up to the Republic to maintain at least the thin veneer of control and good governance.
The question is now for what the Republic should do to address these issues, and even here there are arguments and squabbling, though they remain thankfully confined to madhouse debates within the Legislative Yuan, still safely tempered by the continued presence of the political heavyweight, Dr. Sun Yat-Sen. Yet the question remains,
To Whom Should We Turn To?
That is what must be answered, now and immediately with no argument, for the betterment of the people as a whole. The ineptitude and overextension of the administrations of the former monarchs over these lands are now at display for the KMT to see, as people of all walks of life turn to any and all means of securing for themselves a decent living, even violence.
Now, as the years have gone by, that administration has only steadily declined, ensuring that the anti-Qing and anti-Taiping sentiments remain one of the strongest in all of China. With authority non-existent save for what the Ma families could maintain in their own small fiefdoms - though some wonder how much of that authority lays in their own involvement in more insidious business ventures, but that is for another time perhaps - it is now up to the Republic to maintain at least the thin veneer of control and good governance.
The question is now for what the Republic should do to address these issues, and even here there are arguments and squabbling, though they remain thankfully confined to madhouse debates within the Legislative Yuan, still safely tempered by the continued presence of the political heavyweight, Dr. Sun Yat-Sen. Yet the question remains,
To Whom Should We Turn To?
Song Jiaoren's Proposal | 
Wang Zhaoming's Proposal | 
The Generals' Proposal | 
Chen Qimei's Proposal |
| The steady voice of those aligned with the Right Wing of the Party and a close associate with the good Doctor since his time in Japan, he calls for the establishment of a constabulary force, not too dissimilar to the law enforcement now in-vogue with Europe and the West, which would become an additional arm of the state, albeit one that would execute a far more lighter touch upon it's citizens than the soldiery. They argue that it should fall on the Party to begin lightening it's dictatorial grip on the state allow for civilian institutions to be formed and flourish. This would no doubt strengthen our foreign legitimacy. | The Left Wing of the party, who have voiced their own proposal for what is to be done. The young yet charismatic Wang Zhaoming calls for the establishment of communal "People's Militia" not too dissimilar to the Red Guards seen now in the UPU, with all the baggage from which that particular association with the name now brings. No doubt a promising program, it would reduce the burden placed on the Republic's young administration considerably, allow for a well-trained cadre of reservists to be built up, and smooth any tensions that any new authority would have to face with the local peoples otherwise. | The most expected source, the ever loyal generals Huang Xing and Cai E have jointly proposed to simply bypass the entire debate by sending the National Revolutionary Army to decisively crush the criminal element within the Republic. This has the potential to be the most straightforward of the options, as the NRA is ready and able to assist in the stabilization of the internal situation, with the equipment, experience and morale to back them up. No doubt, this would also serve to temper their most bloodthirsty cries for expansion. | The... novel proposition laid forth by some of our comrades, who once hailed from the same green forests as the criminals who now stalk the Northwest. Chen Qimei, the Shanghai criminal, claims to have some connections with the largest of the outfits which terrorize the countryside, and would be more than eager to help convince his fellows to tone down their criminal activities within the Republic, sending them and their cohort elsewhere. Such a proposal would guarantee a rapid return to law and order, alongside even acquiring a host of connections through the Chinese criminal underground, spread across the nation like a spider's web. |
This would no doubt rankle the feathers of the left, concerned of being subject to oppression by this new institution, no doubt to be staffed by the literate upper-class supporters of the Party. The military too are concerned with the proposal, as it would begin a process of weening away state control from the military and towards the civilian Yuan instead. | The right would no doubt be incensed, calling this a preparation for an inevitable communist coup. The military would be tentatively approving of this program. However, this will likely take some time to be completed. | This would continue to empower the military apparatus. The Yuan would no doubt be quite furious at the dismissal of civilian propositions Furthermore, whilst the military is very motivated, they are few in number and would leave our borders weakened. Who knows if our enemies will remain content with their current holdings... | Associating ourselves with literal criminals should be the last thing the Party needs right now, when our legitimacy is already so delicately balanced in the eyes of the people. Furthermore, this may have unintended consequences for future political crises by allowing the criminal element within the halls of our government. |
Furthermore, there is the question of how to address the dilapidated state of the Northwestern economy. Decades of mismanagement and a general disinterest in the region has led to a severely underdeveloped and agrarian economy, where the world seems to have frozen itself in time to a past long forgotten. Thankfully, we managed to evacuate some of the revolutionary workshops and machineries during our great retreat, yet it surely pales in comparison to the might and wealth of Shanghai.
But it is here, where the march of industry has never reached, where we must began to sow the seeds of the revolution once more.
We have enough material and funds to focus on one aspect of the Republic's economic development for now, so choose wisely.
[] [Agriculture] Whilst the Northwest remains a barren desert for the most part, there still remains some fertile land that the Republic may utilize to begin cultivating agricultural surpluses. This will guarantee some semblance of food security for us and our people, and most importantly restabilize food prices, keeping our economy nice and healthy for the time being.
[] [Lanzhou] So, we may have been lying somewhat when we said that the Northwest was completely agrarian. The Ma-controlled city of Lanzhou is a promising little town, with a small but vital industrial region that is one of our main suppliers of anything remotely resembling the industrial age and all its glory. Though small, we could choose to focus our efforts on expanding it, serving as a nice foundation for continued industrial developments elsewhere in the Republic.
[] [Infrastructure] Railways? There are not even roads in these lands, the only semblance of an intentional pathway being the dirt tracks used by local merchants and traveling convoys. Even the bare minimum of effort placed in maintaining several vital pathways through the Republic could enable us to move with far more speed in response to external threats. This would also allow for civilian traffic to improve somewhat.
[] [Arsenal] The Revolution demands more weapons, weapons for the people, for the army, for exporting the cause to neighboring states. Yet we have little in terms of depth when it comes to engaging in a long, attritional war befitting of the current industrial era. As we saw during the disastrous rout at the gates of Beijing, if we cannot guarantee each soldier ammunition to last for more than a day, then we are truly lost. We will invest in expanding the Lanzhou industrial area too, but for the purposes of military, rather than civilian development.
But it is here, where the march of industry has never reached, where we must began to sow the seeds of the revolution once more.
We have enough material and funds to focus on one aspect of the Republic's economic development for now, so choose wisely.
[] [Agriculture] Whilst the Northwest remains a barren desert for the most part, there still remains some fertile land that the Republic may utilize to begin cultivating agricultural surpluses. This will guarantee some semblance of food security for us and our people, and most importantly restabilize food prices, keeping our economy nice and healthy for the time being.
[] [Lanzhou] So, we may have been lying somewhat when we said that the Northwest was completely agrarian. The Ma-controlled city of Lanzhou is a promising little town, with a small but vital industrial region that is one of our main suppliers of anything remotely resembling the industrial age and all its glory. Though small, we could choose to focus our efforts on expanding it, serving as a nice foundation for continued industrial developments elsewhere in the Republic.
[] [Infrastructure] Railways? There are not even roads in these lands, the only semblance of an intentional pathway being the dirt tracks used by local merchants and traveling convoys. Even the bare minimum of effort placed in maintaining several vital pathways through the Republic could enable us to move with far more speed in response to external threats. This would also allow for civilian traffic to improve somewhat.
[] [Arsenal] The Revolution demands more weapons, weapons for the people, for the army, for exporting the cause to neighboring states. Yet we have little in terms of depth when it comes to engaging in a long, attritional war befitting of the current industrial era. As we saw during the disastrous rout at the gates of Beijing, if we cannot guarantee each soldier ammunition to last for more than a day, then we are truly lost. We will invest in expanding the Lanzhou industrial area too, but for the purposes of military, rather than civilian development.
Please do not vote by plan.
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Gardener of Human Happiness
- Location
- Behind You
[X] Chen Qimei's Proposal
[X] [Arsenal] The Revolution demands more weapons, weapons for the people, for the army, for exporting the cause to neighboring states. Yet we have little in terms of depth when it comes to engaging in a long, attritional war befitting of the current industrial era. As we saw during the disastrous rout at the gates of Beijing, if we cannot guarantee each soldier ammunition to last for more than a day, then we are truly lost. We will invest in expanding the Lanzhou industrial area too, but for the purposes of military, rather than civilian development.
Time for the creation of a military-criminal industrial complex!
[X] [Arsenal] The Revolution demands more weapons, weapons for the people, for the army, for exporting the cause to neighboring states. Yet we have little in terms of depth when it comes to engaging in a long, attritional war befitting of the current industrial era. As we saw during the disastrous rout at the gates of Beijing, if we cannot guarantee each soldier ammunition to last for more than a day, then we are truly lost. We will invest in expanding the Lanzhou industrial area too, but for the purposes of military, rather than civilian development.
Time for the creation of a military-criminal industrial complex!
[X] Song Jiaoren's Proposal
[X] [Agriculture] Whilst the Northwest remains a barren desert for the most part, there still remains some fertile land that the Republic may utilize to begin cultivating agricultural surpluses. This will guarantee some semblance of food security for us and our people, and most importantly restabilize food prices, keeping our economy nice and healthy for the time being.
[X] [Agriculture] Whilst the Northwest remains a barren desert for the most part, there still remains some fertile land that the Republic may utilize to begin cultivating agricultural surpluses. This will guarantee some semblance of food security for us and our people, and most importantly restabilize food prices, keeping our economy nice and healthy for the time being.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
[X] Wang Zhaoming's Proposal
The military likes it and it doesn't kill our legitimacy like criminals or leave us vulnerable.
[X] [Lanzhou] So, we may have been lying somewhat when we said that the Northwest was completely agrarian. The Ma-controlled city of Lanzhou is a promising little town, with a small but vital industrial region that is one of our main suppliers of anything remotely resembling the industrial age and all its glory. Though small, we could choose to focus our efforts on expanding it, serving as a nice foundation for continued industrial developments elsewhere in the Republic.
Industry for better improving our economy later. Though food stability seems nice, might approval vote that one.
The military likes it and it doesn't kill our legitimacy like criminals or leave us vulnerable.
[X] [Lanzhou] So, we may have been lying somewhat when we said that the Northwest was completely agrarian. The Ma-controlled city of Lanzhou is a promising little town, with a small but vital industrial region that is one of our main suppliers of anything remotely resembling the industrial age and all its glory. Though small, we could choose to focus our efforts on expanding it, serving as a nice foundation for continued industrial developments elsewhere in the Republic.
Industry for better improving our economy later. Though food stability seems nice, might approval vote that one.
[X] Wang Zhaoming's Proposal
[X] [Infrastructure] Railways? There are not even roads in these lands, the only semblance of an intentional pathway being the dirt tracks used by local merchants and traveling convoys. Even the bare minimum of effort placed in maintaining several vital pathways through the Republic could enable us to move with far more speed in response to external threats. This would also allow for civilian traffic to improve somewhat.
[X] [Infrastructure] Railways? There are not even roads in these lands, the only semblance of an intentional pathway being the dirt tracks used by local merchants and traveling convoys. Even the bare minimum of effort placed in maintaining several vital pathways through the Republic could enable us to move with far more speed in response to external threats. This would also allow for civilian traffic to improve somewhat.
- Location
- Your pantry
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Song Jiaoren's Proposal
[X] [Agriculture] Whilst the Northwest remains a barren desert for the most part, there still remains some fertile land that the Republic may utilize to begin cultivating agricultural surpluses. This will guarantee some semblance of food security for us and our people, and most importantly restabilize food prices, keeping our economy nice and healthy for the time being.
China and famines do not go together well at all.
[X] [Agriculture] Whilst the Northwest remains a barren desert for the most part, there still remains some fertile land that the Republic may utilize to begin cultivating agricultural surpluses. This will guarantee some semblance of food security for us and our people, and most importantly restabilize food prices, keeping our economy nice and healthy for the time being.
China and famines do not go together well at all.
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- Location
- SEA
[X] Wang Zhaoming's Proposal
[X] [Agriculture] Whilst the Northwest remains a barren desert for the most part, there still remains some fertile land that the Republic may utilize to begin cultivating agricultural surpluses. This will guarantee some semblance of food security for us and our people, and most importantly restabilize food prices, keeping our economy nice and healthy for the time being.
[X] [Agriculture] Whilst the Northwest remains a barren desert for the most part, there still remains some fertile land that the Republic may utilize to begin cultivating agricultural surpluses. This will guarantee some semblance of food security for us and our people, and most importantly restabilize food prices, keeping our economy nice and healthy for the time being.
[X] Wang Zhaoming's Proposal
[X] [Lanzhou] So, we may have been lying somewhat when we said that the Northwest was completely agrarian. The Ma-controlled city of Lanzhou is a promising little town, with a small but vital industrial region that is one of our main suppliers of anything remotely resembling the industrial age and all its glory. Though small, we could choose to focus our efforts on expanding it, serving as a nice foundation for continued industrial developments elsewhere in the Republic.
[X] [Lanzhou] So, we may have been lying somewhat when we said that the Northwest was completely agrarian. The Ma-controlled city of Lanzhou is a promising little town, with a small but vital industrial region that is one of our main suppliers of anything remotely resembling the industrial age and all its glory. Though small, we could choose to focus our efforts on expanding it, serving as a nice foundation for continued industrial developments elsewhere in the Republic.
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[X] Song Jiaoren's Proposal
[X] Chen Qimei's Proposal
[X] [Agriculture] Whilst the Northwest remains a barren desert for the most part, there still remains some fertile land that the Republic may utilize to begin cultivating agricultural surpluses. This will guarantee some semblance of food security for us and our people, and most importantly restabilize food prices, keeping our economy nice and healthy for the time being.
[X] Chen Qimei's Proposal
[X] [Agriculture] Whilst the Northwest remains a barren desert for the most part, there still remains some fertile land that the Republic may utilize to begin cultivating agricultural surpluses. This will guarantee some semblance of food security for us and our people, and most importantly restabilize food prices, keeping our economy nice and healthy for the time being.
[X] Wang Zhaoming's Proposal
[X] [Agriculture] Whilst the Northwest remains a barren desert for the most part, there still remains some fertile land that the Republic may utilize to begin cultivating agricultural surpluses. This will guarantee some semblance of food security for us and our people, and most importantly restabilize food prices, keeping our economy nice and healthy for the time being.
[X] [Agriculture] Whilst the Northwest remains a barren desert for the most part, there still remains some fertile land that the Republic may utilize to begin cultivating agricultural surpluses. This will guarantee some semblance of food security for us and our people, and most importantly restabilize food prices, keeping our economy nice and healthy for the time being.