Tell The World That We Tried (Battletech CYOA) (Complete)
- Thread starter Valles
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Czlyydwr Llrngwl
"Sell ya a door Learn gull," Czly/Celly for short
- Location
- Where the Beef is
- Pronouns
- Any
I'd second the idea of trying to get at least a unit of combat engineers going, so the artillery unit isn't so reliant on existing bridges and ferries and can be set up with a proper fortified position if there's some prep time available. Being able to get to where they can drop shots where you need them and withstand counterbattery fire is the difference between useful arty and a fast leak in the company finances.
- Location
- Canada
One thing that Asha is probably going to happy with that doesn't seem to come up in the Helm raids is the fact that it likely has large amounts of cooling suits. Though I wonder which what SL Mech that she'd try and get for herself?
consequences
Not A Nice Person At All
- Location
- Jerkville
If available, she should stick with the better Royal Marauder to maintain what skills she has. Especially if there are enough of them for her to be lost in the crowd instead of setting herself up as battlefield assassin bait.
There's really nothing good enough as a super unit to justify ignoring practical concerns.
- Location
- United States
Anything with DHS.
More likely, either an upgraded Marauder so she doesn't have to acclimate to a new machine, or a 4/6 heavy assault Mech that can keep pace with her main force. Star League-era Battlemasters aren't bad, if still heat-hogs, and there's other options like a Thug.
- Location
- Usa
So the infantry she picked up likely has some backyard techs who then turned industrial mechs to a bootleg mech force.
Any chance she gets some industrial exoskeletons and has them weld on armor and a support weapon to make bootleg powered armor for close in support or intimidation?
All else fails they can also carry a shield in offhand for portable cover.
Any chance she gets some industrial exoskeletons and has them weld on armor and a support weapon to make bootleg powered armor for close in support or intimidation?
All else fails they can also carry a shield in offhand for portable cover.
Given that she has Phantom Mech she should probably make sure it's an unseen
It's funny, given that she now commands seven regiments, she technically has an RCT equivalent, albeit an extremely unbalanced one.
- Location
- United States
Ehh...not really? She's short a two Mech battalions and at least one of armor, RCTs have a full regiment of each.Given that she has Phantom Mech she should probably make sure it's an unseen
It's funny, given that she now commands seven regiments, she technically has an RCT equivalent, albeit an extremely unbalanced one.
The only thing she's actually got is the Infantry, she's below minimum levels on everything else, including aerospace.
The Bushranger
In the Danger Zone
- Location
- TSAB Asura
Meanwhile, the mention of Hiluxes means that the following may in fact be relevant.
That's why it's only technically
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- Location
- United States
It's not even technically. If that was enough, you could call any Mech battalion with attached armor and infantry (which is pretty common) an RCT.
They don't.
I guess smilies don't help convey jokes anymore. Also, if you look at an SLDF RCT, it only needs 4 combat regiments
(though admittedly I think those regiments are supposed to be combined arms or mech-centric).
VhenRa
MechWarrior
- Location
- Auckland, New Zealand
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Uh? If you are talking about a Monarch.... its only 200 cabins + crew.
Mech Regiment, 3 Armor Regiment, 5 Infantry Regiment + ASF + Arty.
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al103
Grumpy Russian Bear (SV edition)
- Location
- Russia, Krasnoyarsk
More like 2-5 Mech Battalions, 1-4 Armor Regiments, 3-6 Infantry regiments, 1-6 ASF Wings, 1-3 Artillery Battalions.
Because it's always something-or-other when you look closely.
VhenRa
MechWarrior
- Location
- Auckland, New Zealand
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Its typically 1/3/5/2/1 respectively... but well, AFFS is a bit like the Brits in that there is constantly exceptions, weird alternate traditions, battlefield losses, etc etc.
The FedCom Corps and Lyran RCTs all pretty much adhered to the usual ratio because they were newly established.
- Location
- Singapore
Depends on era, I guess, since fluff says the Princess was more common than the Monarch prior to the Succession Wars, but the Princess is also 200 passengers anyway.
More broadly speaking, BT doesn't really give us much canon stuff for non-military bulk personnel transport, and even the options for shifting people under military conditions are limited... the published canon ships over the years have focused on 'Mech or combined arms transports, we don't hear as much about hauling infantry around.
As has been noted in this thread already, chartering a Mule or something would certainly be enough space/volume, but life support might be a concern. My headcanon is that, in-universe, there must be solutions to these problems, i.e. Inner Sphere natives do know damn well how to quickly set up a Mule for hauling people and ensuring they don't suffocate along the way.
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VhenRa
MechWarrior
- Location
- Auckland, New Zealand
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Also each quarters on a dropship takes up as much room an infantry platoon bay... the catch is the extra weight is all the efficient life-support systems.
consequences
Not A Nice Person At All
- Location
- Jerkville
0-5 mech battalions, and 1-6 armor regiments if you look closely enough.
Bays are supposed to include life support for their crew afaik. Might have changed been editions though.
Helm OOB
Exactly. The Mule, meanwhile, is well suited to carrying mass, but I have a hard time believing that it has enough, and sufficiently usefully-arranged, space for all those accommodations - and the Monarch has enough cargo room, especially since you actually end up with surplus cabins that can be filled with oxygen tanks, to make up for having to run its life support systems in a less efficient mode.
Units marked by * are owned by their pilots and/or crews.
Units marked by $ are owned by their pilots and/or crews, but are collateral for a significant debt that BMSS has assumed for the duration of their service.
Units marked by % are leased or chartered and not formally part of BMSS.
Units marked by & are on loan from BMSS' current employer.
Jumpships: Hasenpfeffer (Invader class), Rockall (Merchant class), Warren Zevon (Merchant class), Jumping G. Hoshaphat (Merchant class, %), Hero of Canton (Star Lord class, &)
Dropships: El-Ahrairah (Union class), Davos Seaworth (Union class), Montresor (Union class), Shipping Report (Triumph class, CO Moloch Singh), Cruel Sea (Condor class), Norway's Greatest Son (Leopard class), Jungle Work, (Buccaneer class), Regina McQuiston (Monarch class, %), Dodo's Revenge (Condor class, &) Badajoz (Fortress class, &), War Horse (Mule class, CVE variant, &), Safe Passage (Behemoth class, &), Mondrate Voyager (Mammoth class, &), Mondrate Laborer (Mammoth class, &), Mondrate Carrier (Mammoth class, &)
Infantry (Hearts)
Jump Infantry, Easy Company (Major Moses Rosenkreutz)
-Easy Heart 1st Platoon
--Easy Heart 1 Alpha Regular (Jump Infantry Squad)
--Easy Heart 1 Beta Regular (Jump Infantry Squad)
--Easy Heart 1 Gamma Regular (Jump Infantry Squad)
-Easy Heart 2nd Platoon
--Easy Heart 2 Alpha Green (Jump Infantry Squad)
--Easy Heart 2 Beta Green (Jump Infantry Squad)
--Easy Heart 2 Gamma Green (Jump Infantry Squad)
-Easy Heart 3rd Platoon
--Easy Heart 3 Alpha Green (Jump Infantry Squad)
--Easy Heart 3 Beta Green (Jump Infantry Squad)
--Easy Heart 3 Gamma Green (Jump Infantry Squad)
Other Jump Infantry: Fox, George
Mechanized Infantry, Anatole Company (Captain Joe-Robert Thibodeaux)
-Anatole Cup 1st Platoon
--Anatole Cup 1 Alpha Green (Mechanized Infantry Squad w/machine gun technical)
--Anatole Cup 1 Beta Green (Mechanized Infantry Squad w/machine gun technical)
--Anatole Cup 1 Gamma Green (Mechanized Infantry Squad w/SRM technical)
--Anatole Cup 1 Delta Green (Mechanized Infantry Squad w/infantry mortar technical)
1st Regiment (~900 effectives, Cup)
Anatole, Alain, Andre, Berthe, Bernard, Bertrand, Celestin, Christian, Catherine
2nd Regiment (~900 effectives, Sword)
Desire, Daniel, Didier, Eugene, Emile, Etienne, Francois, Franck, Henri
3rd Regiment (~900 effectives, Coin)
Irma, Isabelle, Isidore, Joseph, Jules, Jean, Louis, Nicolas, Noemie
4th Regiment (~900 effectives, Staff)
Marcel, Michel, Mathieu, Pierre, Patrick, Papa, Victor, Valerie, Veronique
5th Regiment (~900 effectives, Bell)
Oscar, Olivier, Quentin, Raoul, Rene, Remi, Suzanne, Stephane, Sophie
6th Regiment (~900 effectives, Rose)
Therese, Thierry, Ursule, William, Walter, Xavier, Yvonne, Yves, Zoe
Armor (Diamonds)
Armor, Peter Company
-Peter Diamond Actual Major Lira Suzuki co. Regular (Goblin #1)
-Peter Diamond 2 Regular (Goblin #2)
-Peter Diamond 3 Regular (Goblin #3)
-Peter Diamond 4 Regular (Goblin #4)
-Peter Diamond 5 Regular (Goblin #5)
-Peter Diamond 6 Regular (Goblin #6)
-Peter Diamond 7 Regular (Goblin #7)
-Peter Diamond 8 Green (Goblin #8)
-Peter Diamond 9 Green (Goblin #9)
-Peter Diamond 10 Green (Goblin #10)
-Peter Diamond 11 Green (Goblin #11)
-Peter Diamond 12 Regular (Goblin #23)
Armor, Quebec Company
-Quebec Diamond Actual Veteran (Maxim "Fire-eater"*)
-Quebec Diamond 2 Green (Goblin #12)
-Quebec Diamond 3 Green (Goblin #13)
-Quebec Diamond 4 Green (Goblin #14)
-Quebec Diamond 5 Green (Goblin #15)
-Quebec Diamond 6 Green (Goblin #16)
-Quebec Diamond 7 Green (Goblin #17)
-Quebec Diamond 8 Green (Goblin #18)
-Quebec Diamond 9 Green (Goblin #19)
-Quebec Diamond 10 Green (Goblin #20)
-Quebec Diamond 11 Green (Goblin #21)
-Quebec Diamond 12 Green (Goblin #22)
Armor, Roger Company
-Roger Diamond Actual Regular (Puma #1)
-Roger Diamond 2 Green (Puma #2)
-Roger Diamond 3 Regular (Puma #3)
-Roger Diamond 4 Regular (Puma #4)
-Roger Diamond 5 Green (Puma #5)
-Roger Diamond 6 Green (Puma #6)
-Roger Diamond 7 Green (Puma #7)
-Roger Diamond 8 Green (Puma #8)
-Roger Diamond 9 Green (Puma #9)
-Roger Diamond 10 Green (Puma #10)
-Roger Diamond 11 Green (Puma #11)
-Roger Diamond 12 Green (Puma #12)
Armor, Sugar Company
-Sugar Diamond Actual Regular (Manticore #1)
-Sugar Diamond 2 Green (Manticore #2)
-Sugar Diamond 3 Green (Manticore #3)
-Sugar Diamond 4 Green (Manticore #4)
-Sugar Diamond 5 Green (Manticore #5)
-Sugar Diamond 6 Green (Manticore #6)
-Sugar Diamond 7 Green (Manticore #7)
-Sugar Diamond 8 Green (Manticore #8)
-Sugar Diamond 9 Green (Manticore #9)
-Sugar Diamond 10 Green (Manticore #10)
-Sugar Diamond 11 Green (Manticore #11)
-Sugar Diamond 12 Green (Manticore #12)
Armor, Tare Company
-Tare Diamond Actual Regular (Scorpion #1)
-Tare Diamond 2 Green (Scorpion #2)
-Tare Diamond 3 Green (Scorpion #3)
-Tare Diamond 4 Green (Scorpion #4)
-Tare Diamond 5 Green (Scorpion #5)
-Tare Diamond 6 Green (Scorpion #6)
-Tare Diamond 7 Green (Scorpion #7)
-Tare Diamond 8 Green (Scorpion #8)
-Tare Diamond 9 Green (Scorpion #9)
-Tare Diamond 10 Green (Scorpion #10)
-Tare Diamond 11 Green (Scorpion #11)
-Tare Diamond 12 Green (Scorpion #12)
Armor, Uncle Company
-Uncle Diamond Actual Veteran (Scorpion #13)
-Uncle Diamond 2 Green (Scorpion #14)
-Uncle Diamond 3 Green (Scorpion #15)
-Uncle Diamond 4 Green (Scorpion #16)
-Uncle Diamond 5 Green (Scorpion #17)
-Uncle Diamond 6 Green (Scorpion #18)
-Uncle Diamond 7 Green (Scorpion #19)
-Uncle Diamond 8 Green (Scorpion #20)
-Uncle Diamond 9 Green (Scorpion #21)
-Uncle Diamond 10 Green (Scorpion #22)
-Uncle Diamond 11 Green (Scorpion #23)
-Uncle Diamond 12 Green (Scorpion #24)
(Reserve: Goblins 24-28; Scorpions 25-28)
Mechwarriors (Clubs)
Command Lance
-Joker Actual Colonel Asha Blackwing Green ("Marauder No. 2")
-Joker 2 Sargeant Setsuka Carter Veteran (Atlas "Confection"$)
-Joker 3 Sargeant Malin Reyes Regular (Crusader "Deus Volt"*)
-Joker 4 Sargeant Sophitia Braun Elite (Centurion "Aspis"*)
Battlemech, Able Company
-Able Club Actual Major Ludovic Clair Veteran (Battlemaster #1)
-Able Club 2 Regular (Battlemaster #2)
-Able Club 3 Regular (Battlemaster #3)
-Able Club 4 Regular (Battlemaster #4)
-Able Club 5 Green (Battlemaster #5)
-Able Club 6 Regular (Battlemaster #6)
-Able Club 7 Sargeant Lisa Capet Regular (Battlemaster #7)
-Able Club 8 Regular (Battlemaster #8)
-Able Club 9 Regular (Marauder #1)
-Able Club 10 Green (Marauder #5)
-Able Club 11 Green (Marauder #3)
-Able Club 12 Green (Marauder #4)
Battlemech, Baker Company
-Baker Club Actual Captain Keegan Ritter Regular (Thunderbolt "Crusher, Inc"*)
-Baker Club 2 Regular (Marauder #16)
-Baker Club 3 Sargeant Roland Weiler Regular (Marauder #14)
-Baker Club 4 Green (Marauder #9)
-Baker Club 5 Regular (Centurion #1)
-Baker Club 6 Regular (Centurion #2)
-Baker Club 7 Green (Centurion "Chopjob")
-Baker Club 8 Regular (Centurion #4)
-Baker Club 9 Green (Centurion #5)
-Baker Club 10 Green (Centurion #6)
-Baker Club 11 Green (Centurion #13)
-Baker Club 12 Regular (Centurion #8)
Battlemech, Charlie Company
-Charlie Club Actual Captain Mona Rockatansky Veteran (Marauder #10)
-Charlie Club 2 Green (Marauder #11)
-Charlie Club 3 Green (Marauder #12)
-Charlie Club 4 Green (Marauder #13)
-Charlie Club 5 Regular (Centurion #9)
-Charlie Club 6 Green (Centurion #10)
-Charlie Club 7 Green (Centurion #11)
-Charlie Club 8 Green (Centurion #12)
-Charlie Club 9 Sergeant Yertl Powalczyk Regular (Panther "Alleycat"*)
-Charlie Club 10 Green (Centurion #14)
-Charlie Club 11 Green (Centurion #15)
-Charlie Club 12 Green (Centurion #16)
Battlemech, Dog Company
-Dog Club Actual Captain Mei Rin Ho Veteran (Phoenix Hawk)
-Dog Club 2 Regular (Chameleon "Ilia"*)
-Dog Club 3 Regular (Firestarter "Dirty Boy"*)
-Dog Club 4 Regular (Wasp #1 "Buzz Bomb")
-Dog Club 5 Green (Stinger #2)
-Dog Club 6 Regular (Hermes II)
-Dog Club 7 Green (Wasp #2 "Gnat of the Obnoxious")
-Dog Club 8 Regular (Stinger #4)
-Dog Club 9 Regular (Spider "Boris"*)
-Dog Club 10 Regular (Spider)
-Dog Club 11 Regular (Locust "Lootbegger"*)
-Dog Club 12 Green (Stinger #1)
(Reserve: (Marauder #15)(Marauder #8)(Stinger #3)(Hermes II))
Aero (Spades)
Item Squadron
-Item Spade 1 Major Io Sasagawa Elite (Lightning*)
-Item Spade 2 Regular (Corsair #6)
-Item Spade 3 Lieutenant Morana Ivanec Veteran (Shilone*)
-Item Spade 4 Regular (Corsair #4)
-Item Spade 5 Regular (Corsair #12)
-Item Spade 6 Green (Corsair #15)
Jig Squadron
-Jig Spade 1 Lieutenant Tamman Cruz Elite (Lightning*)
-Jig Spade 2 Regular (Corsair #7)
-Jig Spade 3 Regular (Corsair #8)
-Jig Spade 4 Regular (Corsair #9)
-Jig Spade 5 Regular (Corsair #10)
-Jig Spade 6 Regular (Corsair #11)
Knight Squadron
-Knight Spade 1 Lieutenant George Waldron Elite (Centurion Interceptor)
-Knight Spade 2 Veteran (Sparrowhawk Interceptor)
-Knight Spade 3 Regular (Sabre Interceptor*)
-Knight Spade 4 Regular (Sabre Interceptor*)
Love Squadron
-Love Spade 1 Lieutenant Ryoga Dailey Veteran (Eagle*)
-Love Spade 2 Callisto Sasagawa Green (Corsair #3)
-Love Spade 3 Regular (Corsair #13)
-Love Spade 4 Roland Steinbrecher Green (Corsair #2)
-Love Spade 5 Regular (Corsair #1)
-Love Spade 6 Green (Corsair #14)
Mike Squadron
-Mike Spade 1 Lieutenant Sabirah Zuhur Hanania Veteran (Corsair #5)
-Mike Spade 2 Regular (Corsair #16)
-Mike Spade 3 Regular (Corsair #17)
-Mike Spade 4 Regular (Corsair #18)
-Mike Spade 5 Regular (Corsair #19)
-Mike Spade 6 Regular(Corsair #20)
Mobile Headquarters (King)
-Head Tactical Deputy
Artillery Section (Dealer)
-Nan 1 CO Captain Lona Alevito Green Long Tom Battery (6 tubes)
-Nan 2 Green Sniper Battery (6 tubes)
-Nan 3 Green Sniper Battery (6 tubes)
Medical (Queen)
Dr. Enrico Tiber, Head Surgeon
6 Doctors
19 Nurses
14 Paramedics
Additional notes - All of the above is as of the initial drop on Helm. The Medical department shown is sized for the ~1,000 strong outfit the Blackwings were before they added the Fiannese and plans were drawn up to expand it, but not yet carried out given Dr. Tiber's strict recruiting standards for his department. Hero of Canton, Badajoz, and War Horse are all regular LCAF units. Dodo's Revenge is a mercenary ship out of Galatea. All four of the superfreighters are ordinary commercial haulers that were shortstopped out of the Fianna-to-Hesperus run. Regina McQuiston is leased to the Blackwings from a civilian passenger line, and has been refitted for troop carry - a fairly straightforward process that will be easily reversed at the end of her contract. Jumping G. Hoshaphat is a family-owned tramp freighter, hired ditto.
Chloe Sullivan
Subdefective
- Location
- 1630 Revello Drive, Sunnydale CA
This is the BEST name.
Is that a Kowloon reference?0-5 mech battalions, and 1-6 armor regiments if you look closely enough.
A mule dropship has an internal volume of over 2 million cubic meters.
Assuming even 2% of the ships volume is devoted to crew space, with an average vertical of 3 meters, you still have over 13,333 square meters of personnel space. it has a crew of 20. Thats 666 square meters of space per person on average. or about the space of a small mansion. more than 7100 square feet per person for us Americans. The average home size in America is 2,687 square feet.
Personnel space should NEVER be an issue on BT dropships. There is so much space its crazy. BT dropships are gigantic, paper shelled balloons. They have so much internal volume they are like Giant apartment buildings in size. Every damned person on the ship should have their own set of multi-room suites.
A Virginia Class nuclear submarine has an internal volume of around 8600 cubic meters, with a compliment of 135 people. literally .4% of the internal space of a Mule dropship, with more than 6 times as many people.
A mule designed to carry lots of people in addition to its cargo finds its limitation not in internal space, but in mass for life support. You will run out of mass budget WELL before your run out of space.
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400 cabins at 5 tons each is 2000 tons, but giving them a very generous 100 square meters per person on average (including common areas) only takes up 6% of the ships volume.
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Woulda gone for the Jumbo as the cargo carrier. A lot bigger than the Mule & might even be more common. The DroST IIa & IIb are also good designs to look into for vehicle/infantry/asf carriers. Both are centuries-old designs that are innumerably cloned & ply the space ways. They're the YT-1300 freighters of the Inner Sphere.
While I appreciate the detail and calculations, my fundamental attitude on this matter is...
If the official numbers return results that equal Weberfoam, the official numbers are wrong.
so you are thinking the Mule would be more like 50 meters wide rather than the canon 158? I personally prefer such rational numbers, but there are a lot of people who flip out if you question such things on this forum.
I basically throw out a lot of canon measurements to make sense of things. especially aerospace numbers. in my head, warships/jumpships are significantly smaller in size, and they are mostly made our of Internal Structure and Armor. KF drives are more like 10% of the warships mass, and Armor and IS more like 50-60%. That 1,000,000 ton warship is sporting something like 300,000 tons of armor.
regular jumpships use cores more like a canon warship, and they too mount thousands of tons of armor. not that even thousands of tons means much on such a large ship.
Its the only way to give it enough armor that a handgun wouldn't be able to punch through it...
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