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Magical Student Sunset! (MLP/Negima)

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Prologue Pt. 4
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    • [] "Okay. But not all."
    Okay, I previously said that the 'Write-in' you guys put will by default put as 'No', but after further read, I decided to make a new option. The reason I change the wording is because it's OOC for Sunset Shimmer, who is still getting used with her surrounding, suddenly start acting cocky and whatnot.
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    You ponder upon Asakura's question for a moment. The entire class, part from few exceptions, stare at you eagerly. That alone is enough to unnerve you. True, you're not a stranger for being the focus of attention, but... this is different. Usually, they would stare at you with either fear, respect or just plain fangushing.

    But they're now staring at you like a curious foal times one thousand.

    "Uhm," you scratch at your fingers. A nervous habit you have developed since your arrival. "Sure. But not all, yes?"

    She beams, nodding, presenting her mammary glands in a very hypnotic way. The same way Celestia's mane would occasionally accost you your attention.

    "So! Where did you come from? America? England? Indonesia?!"

    "I'm from England," you say, nodding, keeping a straight face and hoping to not get caught. Besides, that's where English comes from, right? You're pretty good at English. You have pondered on the possibility of getting you caught, before; there's the scary possibility of getting dissected like those movies. Then again, you can act as an Ambassador or Diplomat of sorts, but how long will that hold when they find that you're just an escaping criminal?

    "Hmm," she nods, writing something on her notebook. She seems to buy it, at the least. "How about your hair? Is that even natural?"

    Guh. "Of course it is!" You defend, perhaps a bit too defensively.

    There's an ooh'ing sound from the background. Before she could ask any question, there's a loud clapping noise catching everyone's attention. A girl with long blonde hair stands in the middle of the room, stripped to her undergarments. There's a smile on her face that reminds you somewhat of Celestia.

    "Alright, girls, lets finish the health examination. You can ask Miss Shimmer there later."

    There's a resounding aww's, but then followed by a collective "Yes, Class Rep!"

    And just like that, the crowd disperses, giving you a much needed space. From your peripheral, you're aware of the Class President daintily making her way to you. Now that you look closer, her smile looks a bit on the haughty side, though it looks no less genuine. With a graceful motion, she stands before you.

    "Hello, Miss Shimmer," she offers a hand to you. She'sthe third person not to butcher your name. "My name's Yukihiro Ayaka, the class representative."

    "Ah," you take the hand and shake it. It's not quite dissimilar to a hoofshake. Granted, the opposable thumbs are weird, but it's not much. "Nice to meet you."

    She nods, and both of you pull your hands away. "Now, how about we do our health check, yes?"

    You nod, standing up from your chair.

    -x-

    The health examination finishes rather quickly. They weigh you, check your height and other sizes, and then done. The Sakura Alley Rumor is terrifying, you learn, once Miss Konoka draws what seems to be a crossbreed between an insect and... something. It's still pretty terrifying, and you hope that it's combustible. The fact that someone from your class has been found unconscious in said alley does not help your fear.

    True, you haven't seen anything particularly supernatural-ish in this world, but what's the possibility that this would be one?

    Beside that, the school continues normally. You get to know some teachers, but you don't really bother learning about them as you actually decide to study, and not too long, the bell rings for break.

    What do you do now?

    [] Talk to Asakura about that interview
    [] Talk to other students
    -[] Who?
    [] Get lunch
    [] Write-in (Be reasonable)
     
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    • [X] Get lunch

    We aren't social and we are nervous. I'm sure we will still get some attention, but let's not go looking for it when the best we can do is "English comes from England, right?".
     
    [X] Get lunch

    eating is good, I doubt we had time to pre-make food.
    Most likely we'll get dragged along by the others that buy lunch, also vegetarian options would i think still be important.
    She might be a omnivore now but old habit would still dictate salads and such.
     
    SoothingCoffee said:
    She does, but it's weaker. To use her words, "It's like there's some sort of concrete block placed over my magic flow, forming a dam or some kind. I could strong-arm it, use total force, but it can get pretty tiring."
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    So we can go full burn ( :V ) for a couple of minutes if we need it?

    Also, the looks on all the other mages' faces when they find out that's us brute forcing everything. Not sure whether Eva would like us or hate/disdain us though (it really depends on whether or not she finds us interesting), which is shame since she's one of very few that could actually teach us more than a few tricks once we get going.
     
    ShadowAngelBeta said:
    So we can go full burn ( :V ) for a couple of minutes if we need it?

    Also, the looks on all the other mages' faces when they find out that's us brute forcing everything. Not sure whether Eva would like us or hate/disdain us though (it really depends on whether or not she finds us interesting), which is shame since she's one of very few that could actually teach us more than a few tricks once we get going.
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    Once we manage to figure out how to use our magic, we will be pretty damn impressive, as I'd rank Sunset at being easily demi-alicorn, if not full on Alicorn levels like Starlight was. The point is via beige force we'd probably look like a typical Mage. Once we learn how to actually use magic as a human however, oh boy. "Filthy monkey, meet Commander Hurricane!" *smash with actual miniature hurricane* (Sunset was noted to have powerful weather type magic after all)
     
    ShadowAngelBeta said:
    So we can go full burn ( :V ) for a couple of minutes if we need it?

    Also, the looks on all the other mages' faces when they find out that's us brute forcing everything. Not sure whether Eva would like us or hate/disdain us though (it really depends on whether or not she finds us interesting), which is shame since she's one of very few that could actually teach us more than a few tricks once we get going.
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    Whiteeyes said:
    Once we manage to figure out how to use our magic, we will be pretty damn impressive, as I'd rank Sunset at being easily demi-alicorn, if not full on Alicorn levels like Starlight was. The point is via beige force we'd probably look like a typical Mage. Once we learn how to actually use magic as a human however, oh boy. "Filthy monkey, meet Commander Hurricane!" *smash with actual miniature hurricane* (Sunset was noted to have powerful weather type magic after all)
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    Thank you, after a long day at work I needed to laugh that hard. Negi, at the start of Negima and before any of his training could give a damn good fight to Sunset at her best, in either of her power up forms, with the odds resting at his side. After he starts training, the beat downs gets more and more one sided until Negi's moving too fast for Sunset to see and hitting hard enough to KO Sunset with just one punch, never mind using any real magic attacks or martial arts moves. As for Eva, also known as little miss bloodsucker "I'm the most powerful character in this series outside of maybe the Lifemaker, all shall bow before me and despair as I get a kick out of one-shoting gods", she'd consider the level of power Sunset would have even with the Element of Magic crown as adorable. You know, right before casually crushing her while going into full HAM villain mode. Kinda like this:

    Sunset needs to be more powerful then she's ever been just to last to the Magic World arc, as well as to survive Fate's ambush when we get there. We are in Shonen territory here boys and girls. Sunset's got to learn how to move several times faster then Rainbow Dash, get powerful enough to destroy mountains either by punching or blasting them(preferably both) and be able to tank that level of damage if she wants to be able to even last a few minutes against the Big Boys in Negima. Even if we reach the level Twilight was at when she fought Tirek(you know when she was both an Alicorn and had Celestia's, Luna's and Cadence's powers added to her own), it still wouldn't be enough unless we had the speed and combat training to match. And maybe still not even then.


    This is a joke attack by one of the strongest characters in negima. Someone we might even end up having to fight.


     
    I think you are underestimating characters who can blast holes in reality, take getting body slammed through a mountain, and move celestial objects such as the freaking moon, let alone sun, with their magic. Ponies are not lightweights when it comes to power levels.
     
    Whiteeyes said:
    I think you are underestimating characters who can blast holes in reality, take getting body slammed through a mountain, and move celestial objects such as the freaking moon, let alone sun, with their magic. Ponies are not lightweights when it comes to power levels.
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    Ok, first of all, the moving celestial bodies with their magic thing. This is bull and doesn't matter in the least. Why? Because Equastria is a fantasy world whose cosmology is not remotely the same as Earths. The sky in Equastria, including the Sun, Moon and Stars, have more in common with Greek Mythology then they do with RL and Negima Earth. Hell Luna is supposed to be the one who designed the constellations in the night sky and yet had difficulty moving the sun. Not that moving the Sun or the Moon are all that impressive considering that all you need is a bunch of unicorns working together to move either of them(it's how the sun and moon were moved before Celestia and Luna were around). There is no indication that the moon and sun in equestria are anything at all like the moon and sun in RL so equating the two is ridiculous.

    Second, blasting holes in reality would be impressive if such a thing was an actual spell rather then a result of lunacy.

    She blasted the statue that serves as the portal to Equastria, and then started blasting the dimensional cracks spreading out as a result. As for Sunset, she's never shown herself to be all that impressive a combatant.

    Not compared to this anyway.

    And as I mentioned in my above post, durability tough enough to shrug off getting body slammed through a mountain is the type of durability Sunset needs if she even wants a chance in hell when fighting one of the averruncus, never mind their master the Lifemaker, Rakan, Nagi or Eva.

    MLP is not a combat focused setting, problems there are usually solved with things like the Elements of Harmony either purging the problem of its evil or banishing/sealing the problem away. The closest MLP gets to the type of high powered fighting that Negima ends up reaching is when Twilight fought Tirek after Celestia, Luna and Cadence had given her all their power and thus wasn't something she(or the other Alicorns) can normally do on her own. As I mentioned in my above post, Sunset's in Shonen Territory now and has quite the number of training montages to go before she can stand with the rest of the fighters of Ala Alba and their enemies.

    Of course once she does:

    Then she can take great pride in becoming the biggest ass kicker in Equastria's history!
     
    As a normal Mage in Negima, Sunset is pretty prodigious on its own right. I mean, she doesn't use a catalyst and still very much a capable Mage. But when compared to beings like Eva? Especially early now? Yeah. You may impress her with your non-incantation or your non-catalyst magicking, but you would still lose. Badly. Horribly. Hilariously.
     
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    SoothingCoffee said:
    As a normal Mage in Negima, Sunset is pretty prodigious on its own right. I mean, she doesn't use a catalyst and still very much a capable Mage. But when compared to beings like Eva? Especially early now? Yeah. You may impress her with your non-incantation or your non-catalyst magicking, but you would still lose. Badly. Horribly. Hilariously.
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    Most mages don't need to use a catalyst to use magic, Eva only needed to use them to reduce the drain on her magic because she was still mostly sealed in that fight. As for non-incantation based magic, those are possible as well. They just aren't as powerful as using incantation based-magic though their effects are usually far more varied do to being mostly based on intent.
     
    GhostKing 666 said:
    Most mages don't need to use a catalyst to use magic, Eva only needed to use them to reduce the drain on her magic because she was still mostly sealed in that fight. As for non-incantation based magic, those are possible as well. They just aren't as powerful as using incantation based-magic though their effects are usually far more varied do to being mostly based on intent.
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    It is possible, true, to not use a focus, but it would still be pretty hard. By a mage of Sunset's age, it's an inpressive achievement. And true; I never said non-incantations are impossible for other mages, but it would take a great deal of concentration or weakening the spells. Such is not the case for Sunset. She has been casting non-incantions for her whole life, after all.

    Now imagine this, say you're the world's best bodybuilder capable of lifting perhaps a car with ease. And then you see a ten years old kid lifting up two 4kg barbles with ease. You can do what the kid does with hilarious ease, but you can't still help but be a tad impressed, now do you?

    That bodybuilder is Eva. And that small kid is Sunset. Or Negi. Or both. Granted, Negi would be that six years old that could lift said 4kg barbles.
     
    SoothingCoffee said:
    It is possible, true, to not use a focus, but it would still be pretty hard. By a mage of Sunset's age, it's an inpressive achievement. And true; I never said non-incantations are impossible for other mages, but it would take a great deal of concentration or weakening the spells. Such is not the case for Sunset. She has been casting non-incantions for her whole life, after all.
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    Catalysts like what Eva used aren't really focus's. They are more like preprimed spells that require only a tiny spark of mana in order to activate.

    And as for non-incantation bases spells, looking back at the system I was wrong. For mages there isn't any non-incantation based magic, it all requires Words to be said. Whether they say those words outloud rather then just think them(or think the words for one spell while openly invoking another to caste both at once), that's another matter but all magic requires the use of words, poses, signs and gestures to use. At no point do they just will spells into happening.
     
    I'm thinking we trade tutoring Kei Fu for Martial arts training. This will help sunset get used to her new body and will give her a foundation for learning to fight. from there we can start mixing her magic into martial arts till we find a magic teacher.
     
    GhostKing 666 said:
    Ok, first of all, the moving celestial bodies with their magic thing. This is bull and doesn't matter in the least. Why? Because Equastria is a fantasy world whose cosmology is not remotely the same as Earths. The sky in Equastria, including the Sun, Moon and Stars, have more in common with Greek Mythology then they do with RL and Negima Earth.
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    There is zero evidence in Universe of this. In fact, it's actively contradicted in Universe. The show has multiple demonstrations that they know of multiple planets with a model of the solar system and a stained glass window showing planets and the Sun. Acknowledging the planets as actual planets instead of gods actively disproves a Greek model. In addition, Amy Keating Rogers (a writer from season 1-5) said that she sees the Equestrian Sun as identical in size, temperature, distance etc. to our own. The comic additionally had a panel indicating that the moon was far further than the circumference of the planet, supporting the idea that it is large. Saying otherwise is fanon.

    (However, it's true that Sunset has never demonstrated anything like this herself)

    Hell Luna is supposed to be the one who designed the constellations in the night sky and yet had difficulty moving the sun.
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    Again, isn't this fanon? There's nothing indicating this in the show.

    Not that moving the Sun or the Moon are all that impressive considering that all you need is a bunch of unicorns working together to move either of them(it's how the sun and moon were moved before Celestia and Luna were around).
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    This is the opposite of saying ponies aren't powerful. That's an indication of ratio of power, not feat magnitude.

    There is no indication that the moon and sun in equestria are anything at all like the moon and sun in RL so equating the two is ridiculous.
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    Saying that Luna and Celestia can't be powerful because lifting the Sun and Moon can't be difficult because they can do it is circular reasoning, not evidence.

    MLP is not a combat focused setting, problems there are usually solved with things like the Elements of Harmony either purging the problem of its evil or banishing/sealing the problem away.
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    This is completely irrelevant to power levels. Not using something in combat is not the same thing as it not being useful in combat.
     
    SoothingCoffee said:
    As a normal Mage in Negima, Sunset is pretty prodigious on its own right. I mean, she doesn't use a catalyst and still very much a capable Mage. But when compared to beings like Eva? Especially early now? Yeah. You may impress her with your non-incantation or your non-catalyst magicking, but you would still lose. Badly. Horribly. Hilariously.
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    Do you mean compared to magicless Eva that she is most of the time, partially magical as she is during the full moon/blackouts or when she actually can go all out?

    How does sunset scale to Negi at the absolute beginning of the story while he was still comarively weak compared to most of the magic users at Mahora. (Negi was impressive for his age rather than objectively good at the start and didn't become legendary till he got focused combat training. End-Series Yue is probably tougher than beginning Negi.)
     
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