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Not yet, no.
Also, I'm still here, Tom's just waiting on some replys.
A Spell in Parseltongue (Reboot) - Discussion and Claim Thread
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Also, I'm still here, Tom's just waiting on some replys.
Hastur
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Just read the latest post. Oh man, Evelyn is going to be sooo pissed if she ever finds out Barnabas has been ratting out fellow Slytherins. She might not give a damn about people like Runcorn, but it's still of bad taste to "spy" on your own Housemates - especially if he never told her about it. It sets a bad precedent when it comes to trust and I can see her becoming really paranoid with the Vinda matter if the secret slips out.
The idea of them going on patrol and Barnabas finding excuses again and again to disappear and meet Herc is hilarious. Doubly so on the chance Evelyn followed him and thought they were secret gay lovers or some equally ridiculous idea lmao.
Anyway, it sets an interesting dynamic for them, since it makes Barnabas the "inside friend" of Slytherin, so to speak. I doubt Evelyn would find out unless she stumbles upon them purely by chance, she isn't really interested in alchemy (if the alchemy section is the designated meeting point).
The idea of them going on patrol and Barnabas finding excuses again and again to disappear and meet Herc is hilarious. Doubly so on the chance Evelyn followed him and thought they were secret gay lovers or some equally ridiculous idea lmao.
Anyway, it sets an interesting dynamic for them, since it makes Barnabas the "inside friend" of Slytherin, so to speak. I doubt Evelyn would find out unless she stumbles upon them purely by chance, she isn't really interested in alchemy (if the alchemy section is the designated meeting point).
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Glad you liked it, I can just imagine Evelyn trying to talk to Artoria in the latter case (as she obviously know about it) and attempt to keep a straight face in that discussion
Yep, and the worst thing is Barnabas is loyal to Evelyn in its way as he and Hercules have an understanding according to which she isn't to be discussed.
This being said, ratting might be overly harsh, tough Runcorn will and Evelyn might certainly see it that way. Basically, they're is a few Banes from Slytherin but they don't tend to be too influent in their own house nor necessarely have a propensity for politicking so Herc and Bas are meeting once and a while to help coordinate things, so to speak, between anti-Grindelwaldites in Slytherin and the Banes to try to get the Snakes to rejoin the quasi-conscensus of the rest of the school on the war. Usually its more of a two-sided discussion but here they meet to get Hercules up to speed as to what changed with Slytherin students during the summer and with Dippet so Bas did most of the talking.
Of course, it also does give Hercules a nice way to preserve his familly influence in their usual house despite his and his siblings shorting while Bas gets to make some of the contact needed to get into the Prophet straight after graduation but hey, they are humans so they do look after their own self-interest too
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Hastur
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I can easily see Evelyn being so furious that she wouldn't even wait for Bas to explain that she was never a topic of conversation, should she find out about their meetings. Given her rather particular family situation, she's very sensitive when it comes to secrets and matters of trust, it's a bit of what I mentioned earlier - in her mind, if Barnabas is colluding with Greengrass, who is to say that he might not have revealed private things about her life that she'd rather not be public knowledge? Especially since Barnabas himself is clearly anti-Grindelwald.Glad you liked it, I can just imagine Evelyn trying to talk to Artoria in the latter case (as she obviously know about it) and attempt to keep a straight face in that discussion
Yep, and the worst thing is Barnabas is loyal to Evelyn in its way as he and Hercules have an understanding according to which she isn't to be discussed.
Of course, it goes without saying that this would be her first thought, instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt.
To Evelyn, some Slytherins definitely do not deserve this kindness, but it's still a matter of principle - as fellow Slytherins, they are expected to look out for each other, especially now that they are perhaps the more neutral and divided House when it comes to Grindelwald, making them stand out against the near-complete hostile stance towards Grindelwald the other Houses have. It's a courtesy that others would probably not keep, but one that still must be observed. Giving information of the movement of Slytherins and the internal happenings of the House (serious ones mind you, not the usual school bickering or related topics) to people outside their House is reprobable.This being said, ratting might be overly harsh, tough Runcorn will and Evelyn might certainly see it that way. Basically, they're is a few Banes from Slytherin but they don't tend to be too influent in their own house nor necessarely have a propensity for politicking so Herc and Bas are meeting once and a while to help coordinate things, so to speak, between anti-Grindelwaldites in Slytherin and the Banes to try to get the Snakes to rejoin the quasi-conscensus of the rest of the school on the war. Usually its more of a two-sided discussion but here they meet to get Hercules up to speed as to what changed with Slytherin students during the summer and with Dippet so Bas did most of the talking.
Of course, it also does give Hercules a nice way to preserve his familly influence in their usual house despite his and his siblings shorting while Bas gets to make some of the contact needed to get into the Prophet straight after graduation but hey, they are humans so they do look after their own self-interest too
Especially since it'd come from Greengrass, which could easily be seen as a monitoring scheme of Slytherin after having gained complete "control" of Ravenclaw (I wouldn't be surprised if some people thought like this). Still, he's barmy if he thinks having an inside informant will somehow allow him to somehow have influence in Slytherin.
Still, it's an interesting direction for the character, I didn't actually expect it. Given that Evelyn has lots of plans for sixth year between researching and training, I doubt she'd have many chances to stumble upon them mid-meeting - unless we want some drama or it comes up in a post that advances the plot and involves her, I guess.
I think Slytherin has no first year PC chars, so your best bet is probably asking @Mina to reply when she can.
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That make sense but its probably the kind of thing who would vary greatly from one subgroup of Slytherin to another in term of how they see it. From Barnabas perspective he is actively serving his house by working with those in the rest of the school who want it to join the Anti-Grindelwald conscensus and bask in the glory of the inevitable victory (1) rather then have the taint of having been the one who hesitated forever associated with Slytherin.
While I was planning to expand more on it in Barnabas sheet I fear that I might have given the wrong impression too so I do feel that a clarification might be in order: Barnabas and Hercules might be the ones who are physically talking and might have done much of the legwork to establish the connections but neither of them is there only in its own name, even if they both have reasons beyond simple ideology, so to speak. Bas standby for most of those in Slytherin who crave for their house to be more like the rest of the school when it come to the war while Hercules also represent (insert most of the proeminent students in the anti-Grindelwald bloc in the three other houses).
At the end of the day they're is only one wizard in the school who has the influence and prestige among the Banes and among the Anti-Grindelwaldites to give Herc such a mandate, only one wizard who whose word has enough weight with Dippet to convince him to to give a prefect badge to Bas, to give him more prestige among his housemates and more privileges that can help his fellow anti-Grindelwaldites, despite the fact that his grades are, while good, not truly exceptional and that other wizards in his year have familly name who would have more appeal for the headmaster. That wizard isn't a student and, while he would have arguably been a descent fit in both, hasn't been shorted in Slytherin or Ravenclaw...
Sure, Hercules has its drawback as a choice for Dumbledore but most of it (being from another house and being quite influential in it) where shared by other possible candidates for role. On the other hand, he has clear familly ties to Slytherin, know the house pretty well, tend to get along reasonably well with most of its members and, as a Ravenclaw, come from the house who is probably the closest to Slytherin.
As for him having some influence in Slytherin I do tend to adopt a very large definition of the term and think that houses aren't THAT isolated from each other. While a majority of Slytherins are Dragons they're is still a sizable fraction of Sphinx in their ranks and Hercules is the son of the ministry N.2 and most influential sphinx, as well as the most proeminent sphinx in the school himself. Thinking that some of them would look toward him to degree doesn't seem to farfetched to me, nor do I think its mutually exclusive with everyone recogning Lucretia as being clearly the one ultamitely in charge among Salazar's house either. Mind you, that work in many different directions too: as despite the fact that he and Artoria have a good hold on their own house I can definitely imagine more some of the more traditional and reformist minded of the Ravens who, while still recognising and fully accepting their leadership, would also look up to Crecy or Patricia Bones, Charlus Potter and now Septimus Weasley respectively.
As for Evelyn finding out, I'd say its probably unlikely, even if its far less of an absolute secret then Evelyn still having a mean of direct contact with Vinda, just like I don't think Bas would ever find out about her having a two-way mirror with Vinda. I tought that both of them not being entirely fortright with the other politically and both having a secret they keep from the other related to it would make for a nice narrative simmetry, so to speak.
Or at least that was my train of toughts when I came up with the whole thing.
(1) While the war seem to still hang in the balance Bas is among those convinced that time has already ran out for Grindelwald and that the forces mustering against him are simply too strong to be defeated. I don't think its much of a spoiler to say that the events proved him right eventually.
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This is (most likely) not gonna happen, but what if Dumbledore happened to meet the Basilisk's gaze while walking Hogwart's corridors? He doesn't expect it, and despite being Dumbledore would have no time to react...
Everything we know about the war in canon makes me think that Dumbledore would be literally the only wizard able to defeat Grindelwald. So what would happen? Even with his armoes defeated Grindelwald remains unbroken, maybe disappears and returns years later? This time maybe with Tom as his lieutenant (who will ultimately betray and replace him) or the situation settles into a sort of "cold war" between free wizardkind and a Grindelwaldite Alpine redoubt around Nurmengard.
I realize this is just idle speculation, but the idea of a Grindelwald-Voldemort duo is quite intriguing.
Hastur
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That would basically be a dystopian Harry Potter world, tbh. With Dumbledore dead, a lot of the driving force of the good guys is suddenly gone (if we take at face value that Dumbledore was just that good to trump sheer numbers like characters seem to behave in the latest film). Grindie himself said it, that they were probably the only ones who could truly match each other.
If you add Tom into the mix, the end result is terrifying, especially if he still goes through with the Horcrux creation. The only way I could see them having a chance to lose was to face overwhelming numbers or things souring between them to the point they become enemies.
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The Wizemagot, 1952
Tom stepped up to the podium, his new wand clasped firmly in his fingers as the faces of the most powerful men and women in Wizarding Britain - and indeed, beyond, noticing a few foreigners in the visitor areas - turned to meet him, awe and expectation writ across their faces.
" Wizards and Witches of the Wizemagot, and other ladies and gentlemen here, I would like to thank you for coming here today. The papers have told you why I am here today, but I hope you'll allow me a moment of self indulgence here. "
Tom smiled, and allowed the light chuckles a moment or two, before continuing.
"Ladies and Gentlemen, Gellert Grindlewald, the terror of Europe, the Butcher of Prague, the Darkest wizard to stalk this world since antiquity, is dead."
Tom leaned in as he spoke, the witches and wizards hanging on his every word.
"And I have killed him."
The roar that erupted from the crowd was deafening, shocking even Tom in its venhemance. He smiled through it all, allowing the cheers to continue for a minute, before silencing them with a gesture.
"But, of course, the papers have been reporting that for a week now. The question now is two fold - how was it done, and where do we go from here? I will not lie to you - Gellert Grindlewald was a great and terrible wizard, and my silence has been due to my need for recuperation after the battle."
A lie, of course, but one only a few present could call him out on, and all those were loyal to him.
"Ever since the tragic accident that caused Dumbledore, the only wizard to match Grindlewald -" A few figures in the crowd made noises indicating Tom should be included, which he dismissed with a wave and a smile. He wasn't lying, not really. All Dumbledore could hope to do was match Grindlewald. "- to die, at the hands of a careless student, the world has lived in fear. Even as the muggles defeated his own, muggle, ally, he marched stronger and stronger than ever. France was subjected. Iberia was controlled. The whole of Europe was his domain, but for these isles, and even here his arm stretched ever futher."
Tom had them now, he could tell.
"But yet we fought. The aurors, the knights of Walpugis, and the order of the Phoenix - Dumbledore's last gift to the country he loved so much - fought against a madman and his dreams. The statute itself was hounded, and almost broken. Against his followers, against the man himself, in our homes and workplaces, and on the field of battle we fought."
"We held, for five years. Grindlewald had delved deeper into dark magic than anyone before him, and commanded the first true army of wizardry since perhaps Atlantis herself. And so, we come to the events of the last month. Four years ago, I left these isles to search across the globe for anything, anything, that could help. And then I returned. Six battles, we had, across the month. Until our last. One week ago today. What did it? I shall not mince words here."
"The key to his defeat was his own weapon."
Tom was silent hear, and the room held it's breath. His eyes wandered the room, finding Nott. Nott had been in opposition here, declaring that even the good will from his defeat might not be sufficient, to wait a decade or two, until Tom's position was unassailable. Tom didn't smile, as it would ruin what he had build here, but there was something dancing in his eyes.
"I used dark magic to kill Gellert Grindlewald."
The room was silent, for a moment, for a second, as Tom let the statement drift. Eyes blinked at him, uncomprehending.
"It was not a decision undertaken lightly. The Dark Arts are ever changing, ever corrupting. A weak will sees you subsumed. It takes deliberation, determination, and an uncompromising mind to use them safely. But know this, if you are to condemn me for this. I stood on your battlefields as Diagon was aflame. I fought, and watched others fight. I shall not say their names, but know this - I was not alone in this. In a time of war, in a time of strife, to protect the innocent, some must come to bloody their hands."
Tom straightened up, a slight twist of magic making him look larger and closer than he was to his audiance.
"It is with no great pleasure that I did it. And if we are to prevent it, if we are to make sure this never comes round again, we must answer the second question. Where do we go from here?"
"I have no easy solutions for you. I have no quick fixes or idle practices. But, I have, I think, some analysis. The core of that cult like mentality, that disease of the mind we call Grindlewaldism, was of superiority. Superiority of wizards over muggles, and as such, rulership. Control."
"This is not an uncommon thought. The ancestors of his belief can be traced back to the debates around the Statute, and even earlier, to Atlantis, perhaps. But this is not the right path. This is not the path of Merlin, of any of those history call great. No, we have seen a better way. It is apparent in the Statute, in our culture, in our finance, and in so many ways beside. Separation. To leave the muggles to the muggles, and the wizards to the wizards. But there was a flaw there, one that was latched onto. For we stumbled, along the way. We allowed ourselves to drift closer, and as such opened the way for the ideals of grindlewald to spread. Not among the muggleborn, those that would know best if he was right, but among those born and raised here. Those who look upon the muggleborn bereft, as they are, of magic for the first eleven years of their life, and even after exposed irregularly to their birthright. They see those who never had the chance to learn what they knew, and they call them weak, and themselves superior. And so goes the logic, that each and all must therefore be superior to the muggles themselves."
Tom was quiet, and a murmering arose from the crowd. Quickly he began talking again, before they could let the idea settle.
"I cannot say what we must do to stop a new Grindlewald, in twenty, fourty, fifty years. I have neither the power nor the authority to do so. But I know, that we must, for one else one day a new sucessor will arise. And then, perhaps, there shall be no-one to oppose him."
Tom stepped down, letting the minister take the podium again, and waited. He'd given instructions to a few people in the crowd to start it, if it didn't, but his position would be so much more secure if it was natural. The murrmering started up again, even as the minister tried to talk. It grew louder, and louder, and he looked out from his seat as it turned to chanting, his followers not the first.
"Riddle! Riddle! Riddle! Riddle!"
Ah, yes. That sound had always soothed him.
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Well, I let that get away with me, but I think there might be something yet worse than Grindlewald and Tom conquering.
Aquadragon10
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I won't lie. With that writing I would totally vote for him.
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It might be because I always disliked grimdark stuff (which IMO are as narratively sterile as utopias) but I tend to be less pesimistic, while still recognising that we would be speaking of a far, far, far darker timeline then in canon.
Obvious gap in morality between the two asside, this scenario remind me of Pippin line in Return of the King where he explained Borromir death by the fact that even the mightiest of warrior can be brought down by one arrow. Both Dumbledore and Grindelwald where cannonically disarmed by Draco and Newt, both talented wizards, especially the latter one, but neither is really in the same league then they in term of raw power. The more Grindelwald armies get tinned, the more he will have to get involved personally and the more he will run at risks of a stray curse, of failing to see one of the many ennemy wizards coming for him or simply of having a bad luck and the day will, probably inevitably, come. He could try to run, as you portray it, but their whole be whole armies on the hunt for him and, since I simply don't see him be willing to twist his very being by making horcruxes, I can't see how he would fake his death convincingly enough either.
As for Tom, I tend to think that he wouldn't sadle himself with a cause that has some serious issues nor would he ever accept to be anyone number 2, even if only for sometimes in his mind, and in any case I tend to think he would want to carry on with some of the stuff he devoted the late 40's to early 60's in canon (horcruxes, stealing artifacts, his other magical experiments, etc...) before getting directly involved politically. Mind you, we would still be talking of far darker timeline since Dumbledore not being around would remove a rather large obstacle to Voldemort ambitions, he might even manage to truly take over Wizarding Britain and solidify his control over it like Grindelwald did here (and appear to have done in canon) with a good chunk of Europe. Even if that happen, however, the fact he never managed to even truly defeat his ennemies in Britain in canon and Grindelwald eventual fate when he faced the whole of the IWC, like Riddle probably would at some point considering his stated ambitions, I tend to think that he would have eventually been defeated as well.
Obviously, in that scenario the two Dark Lords would have caused far more damages and brought upon far more pain then they did in canon before being brought down so the Wizarding World still owe Dumbledore an immense debt of gratitude. On a more personal note, such a scenario if far too grim for my tastes too and I must say I far prefer how it whent down in canon
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Everywhere except Slytherin, then ods are we would wrap things up in term of ongoing conversations and do a timeskip to sometime into the semester.
Aquadragon10
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If anyone was in Ravenclaw right now they just see Alphard fortify his room like a man possessed. He got older sibling and cousins who might not be happy. Add in parents and howlers and well, he's going to be trying his best as a person who knows only a few spells to protect himself.
He will not let Walberga prank him so easily!
Edit: Also forgot to mention that I will be on vacation starting Sunday and I won't be able to access the internet until Friday 18th.
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Ravenclaws can be peculiar and some have been observed to have a sort of nesting behaviour in their dorms, so he wouldn't stand out too much.
Enjoy your vacation! If you are still interested when you come back, don't worry bout having skipped some scenes, it's not important with the freeform format we are using.
On that note, if you want to interact with a NPC (student or professor) I think we can have the conversation happen on one of the days after the first day which is now concluding. There will be a timeskip in any case and I think we can have the conversation happen in a sort of "time-bubble".
Aquadragon10
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Oh I still will be interested when I come back. Being a fast reader is helpful at times.Ravenclaws can be peculiar and some have been observed to have a sort of nesting behaviour in their dorms, so he wouldn't stand out too much.
Enjoy your vacation! If you are still interested when you come back, don't worry bout having skipped some scenes, it's not important with the freeform format we are using.
On that note, if you want to interact with a NPC (student or professor) I think we can have the conversation happen on one of the days after the first day which is now concluding. There will be a timeskip in any case and I think we can have the conversation happen in a sort of "time-bubble".
and nesting is one thing, trying to figure out if he can have sentient knight golems to guard the door is a bit more.
Barnabas Cuffe
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And here it is probably my bigest sheet safe for Herc himself. If anything don't work for you @Hastur and @Terran Imperium do let me know and I would be happy to change it.
Some Author Notes: The picture was close enough to what I had in mind (and the ones in Hogwarts uniforms are rare enough) that I whent with it but imagine him being more cheerfull and far less sinister. His inclusion in the Slug Club is actually canon and his probably gonna make the first meeting even more of a social powderkeg then it already seemed to be bound to be
BARNABAS CUFFE
probably my bigest sheet safe for Herc himself. If anything don't work for you @Hastur and @Terran Imperium do let me know and I would be happy to change it.Some Author Notes: The picture was close enough to what I had in mind (and the ones in Hogwarts uniforms are rare enough) that I whent with it but imagine him being more cheerfull and far less sinister. His inclusion in the Slug Club is actually canon and his probably gonna make the first meeting even more of a social powderkeg then it already seemed to be bound to be
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Barnabas Cuffe was born in Hogsmeade, the son of relatively banal inkeepers doing business in the magical town. While his ancestry made him a pureblood in the technical sense of the word, as he has no muggleborn or muggle grandparents, and therefore has shielded him from any purism, it didn't provide him with any of the connections the bearer of more celebrated familly learned to take for granted while growing up. As a result, most, including him, had once expected him to simply follow in his familly footsteps and take on the management of the Inn when his parents would retire.
Even as a child, Barnabas Cuffe had a gift, however: thanks to its wit and charm he somehow seemed to be able to make himself, if not invisible, discrete enough for peoples to not notice him without hiding, when he wanted too, and also seemed to be able to make peoples trust him, to make them talk of things they usually kept for themselves. As he often enjoyed roaming in the streets near its parents inn and that most payed no heed to him he soon gathered a rather impressive quantity of funny and crusty stories having occured in Hogsmeade as a result. As he also enjoyed recounting them, and that such a state of affair somehow didn't make peoples more warry of him, with some changes to avoid hurting those who had confided in him Bas became something of a local attractions, as many came to their parents inn fairly regularly to have a good laugh and be discracted for sometimes by his stories, often buying food and drinks while they where at it. For a few years the Cuffes didn't think much of it, allowing the practice to continue because it drew business in, until a journalist of the Prophet who was taking a room for the night made a remark noting the similarities between his job and Bas hobby. His words where an illumination for Barnabas, as he resolved the make his way toward the Prophet and become a journalist!
As the sheer drive and willpower he sought directed toward his goal proved to be enough to get him shorted to Slytherin Barnabas soon sought to show his mettle and joined The Little Wizard. While the school newsheet existed before Bas arrival it couldn't be said to have done much more, as it only produced a few editions every year, with a collection of mishmash articles and texts thrown together without much method behind it. By his fifth year, however, much had changed: under Barnabas lead (a position none did much to dispute from him when he took it) and thanks to his determination the Little Wizard began to truly took shape. A cast of apprentice journalists and columnists was assembled, their talents channeled toward specialities fitting with the format Barnabas had decided upon for the now byweekly newsheet. Thanks to a well-dosed mixed of serious news, opinion and litterary pieces and gossips and allot of hard work the Little Wizard carved for itself a far from negligeable readership, tough some affected, with more or less sincerity, to deem it a simple guilty pleasure. As a result, and in its own way, the Little Wizard and had managed to carve for itself a meaningfull place in Hogwarts internal life, gifting his editor with a degree of influence and prestige he had never wielded beforehand, nor even truly wanted, at a comparatively young age.
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As a result many began to believe that the young journalist to be had to paid more attention and, more precisely, to gain more insight as to his political beliefs. On the latter matter Barnabas instincts tend to point him toward a policy of strict discretion, deeming, probably rightly, that doing so would only hurt his newsheet and his ambitions for a journalistic career. The one exception to that rule proved, of course, to be the war herself, as Bas was never shy when came the time to affirm his distaste for Grindelwaldism. While such a state of affair was always, at least, partially, motivated by expediency, as he need to maintain the relative sympathy and the interest of most of the school toward the Little Wizard to ensure its continued growth, Bas feelings on the matter are nevertheless genuine as the methods displayed by Grindelwaldism and his extremism horrify him.
As, upon his fourth year, the previous leading figures of the Anti-Grindelwaldite fraction of Slytherin had headed toward Europe upon graduation, with no immediate successors to take the Anti-Grindelwaldite mantle in Salazar's dungeon, many began to fear that a lack of leadership would jeopardise the progress made by the ministry and the cause among the opinions of the snake. Barnabas being, even at the time, fairly well know accross the school many began to look at Barnabas as a natural choice to inherit the role. While far from enthusiastic at the prospect Barnabas nevertheless trully desired to see his house join what began to be increasingly seen as the near-conscensus among the rest of the school and recognised that they're was no other obvious candidate for the job, he therefore rose to the occasion. Thanks to his engagement he gained a prefect badge, and the undying hatred of the Friends of Magic.
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Honestly, at this point I wonder where the hell Voldemort will be recruiting from.
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Barnabas and the Slytherin Anti-Grindelwaldites are a minority, just like Arpus Runcorns and his friends are as well, even if the former are, indeed, growing in numbers right now. Most are simply neutral or pretty lukewarm in their sympathy for Grindelwald or their opposition to him. Moreover, while Barnabas himself and some among his fraction of House Slytherin are closer to the Owl-Sphinx side of things then to the Dragons they're is some other who are closer to Sully father and oppose Grindelwald out of loyalty for the ministry, disgust to his methods and opposition to personal rule by one wizard and/or lifting the statute of secrecy. Mind you, the other houses also have their Grindelwaldites and Purists, even if in significantly smaller number then Slytherin.
Beyond that, it is also noteworthy to remember that they're is still a good 25-30 years beyond 1942 and the begining of the First Wizarding War, that give allot of time for political opinions to change and for Voldemort to recruit among the younger generation and also tend to indicate the circumstances needed for something like the Death Eaters to arrise in Britan where simply not there by the 1940's, hence why he would probably be more busy with building a core group of followers he could eventually organise an army around rather then actually raising said army in the short run.
While they're is some speculations and headcanon in it I tend to be with the wiki and see the Death Eaters rise as being at least partially caused by the radicalisation of those who where already blood supremacists in reaction to Wizarding Britain becoming seemingly a more equalitarian society in the 50's and 60's, causing many Dragons to become Basiliks, and eventually pro-Death Eaters, as they decide that their political beliefs simply can't triumph without violence and develop for the muggleborns a hatred even greater then they had for them in the 40's, when Wizarding Britain as a whole was probably far more purism then latter on.
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I'm wondering the same. I've kind of changed my mind and think Walburga will actually be an active blood supremisist because her thing originally was not caring much about the politics but that was based on the last game where there was an active Slytherine contingent that was coherently arguing its positions and a rival faction so a neutral character was kind of fun (also I was playing as the ultimate blood supremacist so wanted something different).
@ChineseDrone wrote out a brilliant article for example. Lucretia was smitten with Tom who was working on recruiting and planning his next steps and there was less of a wall of students clearly on right side of history.
TBH I'm not sure what to do at the moment. If you wish Tom and Wala can have a chat about how the school isn't what it used to be. I think they might find a surprising amount of common ground.
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TBH, I think that contingent is still very much around. Sully still published his article and while it wasn't exactly well received by most that was already the case last game (granted, he has less of an impact because Chinese seem to be busy but that's part of the OOC stuff any game has to handle), Tom is still plotting and Lucretia still has Tom as one of her crush and is still very much on the purists side of things. True, she isn't really an extremist in that regard but neither was she really last game, really.
Granted, Barnabas and Evelyn make Slytherin look more nuanced (tough it has already been established before I made the latter character sheet) and Abraxas Malfoy not having a completely does make one of the key pureblood supremacist being less often on screen but Slughorn was always there as a reminded that not all Slytherins where bound to become sympathetic to pureblood supremacism (yes, he is a purist to some degree but he never seemed to have any sympathies for pureblood supremacism) and Livia Mulciber being a PC help balance Abraxas being less active somewhat. Moreover, with Professor Bogdava you have a professor who might be more susceptible to see eyes to eyes with Tom, on at least some things, then any who got fleshed out in the previous version of the game.
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- il bel paese dove il sì sona
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- He
Just to add to Phil's points, I'll note that the nucleus of Voldemort's Death Eaters (Humphrey Avery, Edmond Lestrange, Aidan Rosier, Mark Mulciber, Antonin Dolohov, Theodosius Nott) is all there already among the boys of Slytherin's Class of 1945, just OOC none of them is taken as a PC, so we arenot seeing a lot of them.
The second point is that I can see how Voldemort could have received a significant amount of covert support or at least connivence by the very upper crust of wizarding society (Blacks, Malfoys etc.) because they saw themselves not adequately rewarded for their loyalty in Grindelwald's war, while observing the rise of "new men" after the war, just as Dumbledore took control of the country's education system. In a way there might be a parallel to how the old aristocratic order in Italy and Germany saw Mussolini and Hitler as ueful tools to control the rise of mass political parties (both Socialist and Christian-popular) after ww1. When we go to the seventies/eighties we also see an element of rebellion against the perceived establishment with the younger generation of Death Eaters (mostly visible in Barty Crouch Jr., but Snape could be an example too), although most of them seem to be directly related to the "old guard". Now I'll stop myself before reading too much real world politics into this.
The second point is that I can see how Voldemort could have received a significant amount of covert support or at least connivence by the very upper crust of wizarding society (Blacks, Malfoys etc.) because they saw themselves not adequately rewarded for their loyalty in Grindelwald's war, while observing the rise of "new men" after the war, just as Dumbledore took control of the country's education system. In a way there might be a parallel to how the old aristocratic order in Italy and Germany saw Mussolini and Hitler as ueful tools to control the rise of mass political parties (both Socialist and Christian-popular) after ww1. When we go to the seventies/eighties we also see an element of rebellion against the perceived establishment with the younger generation of Death Eaters (mostly visible in Barty Crouch Jr., but Snape could be an example too), although most of them seem to be directly related to the "old guard". Now I'll stop myself before reading too much real world politics into this.
Terran Imperium
[French]
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- Southern France
Hastur
You can't hide from the King in Yellow
- Location
- Barcelona
What an unnerving pic lol. Imagine running into him in a dark corridor as a student out of curfew 
Interesting to see he has someone similar to Evelyn's Vinda in Calvina. I gather that might make him somewhat sympathetic to her situation. I'll have to accommodate for his little sister and maybe some of his acquaintances - regular name dropping should be good enough for now. All the new info will be useful to know for future posts, regardless.
Very nice sheet. He thinks Gawain is childish, that amused me It's not wrong, but not quite right. I'd say he's more in conscious denial of the situation but it works.
Because of this, I think there might be a good chance for Evelyn to be quite blindsided when it comes to realizing her little brother is very effectively trapped in Tom's web. The possibilities are quite interesting, I think - he could be some sort of early Regulus (growing to regret his actions) or become fanatical to never leave the Knights/Death Eaters. Evelyn's involvement is another factor, but right now things are too vague to say much about it. I can see them coming to a head years down the line. I haven't really thought about his political thoughts and leanings or the extent of such, tough he definitely thinks purebloods are better.
In fact, I won't deny I've entertained the idea of a brutal fight between either Vinda or Aidan with a "good route" Evelyn (so to speak) who finally decided to openly oppose Grindelwald in Europe, provided she wasn't able to turn them back from their path, of course. Honestly, Evelyn's character has a lot of possibilities for boundless family drama - I suppose most families with people on both sides would be similar.
Anyway, before I forget @phil03 Kensai hasn't showed up in all these weeks - do you think Susan could still be played as a NPC? I'd like to remove her from the sheet if not and maybe add in someone else.
Interesting to see he has someone similar to Evelyn's Vinda in Calvina. I gather that might make him somewhat sympathetic to her situation. I'll have to accommodate for his little sister and maybe some of his acquaintances - regular name dropping should be good enough for now. All the new info will be useful to know for future posts, regardless.
Very nice sheet. He thinks Gawain is childish, that amused me
It's not wrong, but not quite right. I'd say he's more in conscious denial of the situation but it works.The worst part of this is that since Tom will have everyone fooled, they'll see more strangely the fact he hangs out with them rather than the other way around when they start radicalizing themselves (if it's a visible process and Tom doesn't make them keep an absolute low-key profile). The second generation (Lucius, Snape and others) were definitely much more vocal and obvious in their leanings, in any case.
Because of this, I think there might be a good chance for Evelyn to be quite blindsided when it comes to realizing her little brother is very effectively trapped in Tom's web. The possibilities are quite interesting, I think - he could be some sort of early Regulus (growing to regret his actions) or become fanatical to never leave the Knights/Death Eaters. Evelyn's involvement is another factor, but right now things are too vague to say much about it. I can see them coming to a head years down the line. I haven't really thought about his political thoughts and leanings or the extent of such, tough he definitely thinks purebloods are better.
In fact, I won't deny I've entertained the idea of a brutal fight between either Vinda or Aidan with a "good route" Evelyn (so to speak) who finally decided to openly oppose Grindelwald in Europe, provided she wasn't able to turn them back from their path, of course. Honestly, Evelyn's character has a lot of possibilities for boundless family drama - I suppose most families with people on both sides would be similar.
Anyway, before I forget @phil03 Kensai hasn't showed up in all these weeks - do you think Susan could still be played as a NPC? I'd like to remove her from the sheet if not and maybe add in someone else.
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