Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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WestOrEast said:
Ostland will be a lot stronger once the elector count and the runefang are back in their borders. People are already wondering how much they should listen to Magnus the Younger and that will only get worse if a major invasion hits while the actual ruler with the proper signs of legitimate rule are away.
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People are bemoaning the lost of the runefang that's it.

Magnust still have a tight grip on the controll and the enemy at the gates make the huma petty squabbles fade aways quickly.
 
It's more a sign of just how potent Runefangs have become in terms of symbology for the Empire that any loss of one extremely temporary or not would introduce such questions more than anything else. Magnus could be literally Magnus the Pious 2.0 fully in terms of stats and prestige and you'd still have at least a handful of people panicking because 'The Big Symbol' is gone.
 
The more interesting thing imo is that no runefangs of an active province have been permanently lost in the last 2000ish years. Given that its said that magical items can come into being from an object being legendary I would assume there is some sort of fate twist that ensures they make their way back to a province if they get lost given enough time. Just from belief that the rightful ruler of a province has a runefang thus magically they are drawn in a subtle way back to their land.
 
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[X] Early Aquafarm Destruction Attempt: This would be the greatest guarantee towards Natasha's survival, and the worst for the long-term efforts of Hultressa at the Fulmination being discovered as a result of heightened security and paranoia. The destruction of another food production location, or at least the damaging of it, would further reduce food stock on the Black Ark and worsen Alyssa's position. At the same time, if Natasha acts too early, the less damage she may be able to do towards the aquafarm itself. For now, your wife seems mostly certain she can cripple it, if not destroy it. With the majority of the military of the Ark dedicated to slave raids, Natasha's escape is all but guaranteed according to Hultressa. Sabotaging the pyramid will go through just before the auction for maximum destabilization - assuming Hultressa's efforts are not stymied too greatly of course. Which they may well might be.
 
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Always happy to see this updated. Also glad to see that Freddy's kids are keeping things together about as well as they can given everything that's happening. We just have to return as soon as possible.
 
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torroar said:
It's more a sign of just how potent Runefangs have become in terms of symbology for the Empire that any loss of one extremely temporary or not would introduce such questions more than anything else. Magnus could be literally Magnus the Pious 2.0 fully in terms of stats and prestige and you'd still have at least a handful of people panicking because 'The Big Symbol' is gone.
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All the more reason to return to Ostland with it.

And speaking of swords, I think Eldyra needs hers back, if only to help encourage her to wake back up so that is also something we need to retrieve when we rescue our friends.
 
[X] Early Aquafarm Destruction Attempt: This would be the greatest guarantee towards Natasha's survival, and the worst for the long-term efforts of Hultressa at the Fulmination being discovered as a result of heightened security and paranoia. The destruction of another food production location, or at least the damaging of it, would further reduce food stock on the Black Ark and worsen Alyssa's position. At the same time, if Natasha acts too early, the less damage she may be able to do towards the aquafarm itself. For now, your wife seems mostly certain she can cripple it, if not destroy it. With the majority of the military of the Ark dedicated to slave raids, Natasha's escape is all but guaranteed according to Hultressa. Sabotaging the pyramid will go through just before the auction for maximum destabilization - assuming Hultressa's efforts are not stymied too greatly of course. Which they may well might be

Time to cross the rubicon, gather.the while party back, and maximize the damage.

Fulmination is gonna have to be slowed or stopped entirely, but all of our main pieces are together at least.

Just need to grab the auction house target, and hustle.

Johanna will prob see all this, is the matriach for Manaan still down there? If not, we mught have to abandon her behind since we dont even know her status in character.
 
[X] Early Aquafarm Destruction Attempt: This would be the greatest guarantee towards Natasha's survival, and the worst for the long-term efforts of Hultressa at the Fulmination being discovered as a result of heightened security and paranoia. The destruction of another food production location, or at least the damaging of it, would further reduce food stock on the Black Ark and worsen Alyssa's position. At the same time, if Natasha acts too early, the less damage she may be able to do towards the aquafarm itself. For now, your wife seems mostly certain she can cripple it, if not destroy it. With the majority of the military of the Ark dedicated to slave raids, Natasha's escape is all but guaranteed according to Hultressa. Sabotaging the pyramid will go through just before the auction for maximum destabilization - assuming Hultressa's efforts are not stymied too greatly of course. Which they may well might be.
 
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Need both for success. Can we have it both ways?
This is tough. Want to push for the massive chaos in order to deter the druchii from chasing us.
Risking Nat and Roland is very much suicidal because of our connection.

The sneaky sneaky person killing the Druchii is Magda yes?
Or is it Johanna? She certainly has the fire power to wipe out those guards.
Or is it kerillian? Vermintide assasin being too loud.

Man i kind of wish those three actually teamed up for this.
torroar said:
I'm sorry. I'm trying. I wish to god I could have the consistency of the other Warhammer QMs, but I just don't have it. I know it takes too long. I'm sorry.
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Hey.... You got this update out. Its big and chonky, full of toroarr story goodness.
We all extremely appreciative with everything you've done. We know its hard not do dwell on the bad things, but this update shows that you're absolutely still chugging along.


Good luck and best wishes.
 
SneakyWalrus said:
I wonder if that Lizardman army is still stomping around in Norsca? It'd be funny if the dropped a surprise invasion interruption on the Druchii.
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Last omake showed they are, and Norsca Dawi are still kicking around but they're far inland. Most of the arks landing zone would be just island outside of it.

Not unless we get off the coast, got really lost and end up in the mountains and discovering them accidentally.

Not out of the possibility, but very slim.
 
Cheap Orange Knofe said:
[X] Middle Aquafarm Destruction Attempt

Need both for success. Can we have it both ways?
This is tough. Want to push for the massive chaos in order to deter the druchii from chasing us.
Risking Nat and Roland is very much suicidal because of our connection.

The sneaky sneaky person killing the Druchii is Magda yes?
Or is it Johanna? She certainly has the fire power to wipe out those guards.
Or is it kerillian? Vermintide assasin being too loud.

Man i kind of wish those three actually teamed up for this.

Hey.... You got this update out. Its big and chonky, full of toroarr story goodness.
We all extremely appreciative with everything you've done. We know its hard not do dwell on the bad things, but this update shows that you're absolutely still chugging along.


Good luck and best wishes.
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Kerillian is unfortunately one of prisoners captured and going to be held at the future auction. Magda I have doubts, since while yes she did survive her near fatal attack and fall, she was more then a little twisted, and has presumably been living with all of the sea monsters in the inner sea part of the Ark alone for untold weeks now. If she is being sneaky and active enough, I would have expected reports of massive sailors being killed, along with one or more of the few remaining beastmasters the Drucchi have left. This still seems like Johanna in that case with the few guards obliterated, but no mentions of water or smell of brine nearby then.

Besides that, same Tor. Just keep on being positive about yourself and the work you can produce and make about this Ark and we will all love it regardless of the length or time it takes to see us through. This ain't Mountain Vietnam, nor likely will it ever be that ever again.
 
Do we know how Bugman's is reacting to the fungus news? The most obvious is somehow adding even more to their already thorough defenses and preparations.
 
So do we have any theories around the strange sensations when we talked about convincing more sorcerers?

Is Isha giving a hint that her intervention may have been broader than first thought?
 
Honestly? I have the entire thread of Puella Magi Adfligo Systema to effort post at for some stuff that happened there so:

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Because there are no safe choices here and the Dark Elves losing more food under their guard is more destabilizing then the sabotage happening while they are out raiding in part because it will hurt their Elven Pride more to have it happen right under their noses.

Blackangel said:
Honestly? Outside of picking up our daughter midway? I see no benefit to getting involved. Let's think of this on both sides, our wife's sister who a Druchii torture master supreme compared her rein to a dreadlord, which holy shit. Or whatever opposite side is opposing her, so let's say the church, the ones that are not ice witch and widow, the ones with a bear for a god ursun and other gods. Also the nobles.

We don't have the best view of the conflict, not the basis, the players, the reasonings, etc. so let's just look at it from a beneficial side. What has katterin done for us and can we expect her continued rein to be a positive one? I don't think it will provide any benefits to us or the empire, as I just don't think it's sustainable. Yes she has marched with us, but it has been very clear it was more out of duty and honor than any actual want. I don't think she will exactly be friendly to us in the future.

Ok so now the church/nobles. The actual benefits of their rein could be guessed at, but the detriments to their rein are very clear. They do not like foreigners/prefer an isolation policy, they like slavery and will undoubtedly start up the trade again as soon as they are in power, while they will undoubtedly still trade with us, there is little to any chance that our emperor will be able to continue his talks with forming a military alliance.

I lack enough information to list more, but these are the obvious ones. They have plenty of negatives, but outside of making any further inroads and military alliances very difficult, it has no effect on us compared to how they are now. The only difference would be the slave trade will pick up, which yes is bad, but it's not the worst thing in the world. At least compared to katterin deteriorating mental state. Seriously I think she's about to snap soon.

In other words, while I don't think we should support the opposition, I don't think we should support katterin either. Possibly just speed run finding our daughter and leave as fast as possible. It probably won't go that smoothly but that's what I think we should aim for.
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Nothing in this post is true. For starters it isn't the fight between the Church of the Widow and the Church of Ursun:

torroar said:
Ursus Mattrin Romanov, Crown Prince of Kislev, Married within Kislev City [High Priest of Ursun] - Dead
  • Olesya Romanov (Formerly Nikodoch), Wife of Crown Prince Ursus Mattrin Romanov - Dead
  • Kattarin Romanov, Daughter To Heir, Married Within Erengrad - Dead
  • Ursuni Romanov, Daughter of Heir, Married Within Kislev City - Dead
  • Dmitry Romanov, Son to Heir, Married Within Praag - Dead
  • Mattrin Romanov, Son to Heir, Married Within Western Kislev - Dead
  • Boris Romanov, Son to Heir, Married Within Southern Kislev - Dead
  • Rasputin Romanov, Son to Heir, Married Within Kislev City - Dead
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as the part of the royal family that was in charge of that Cult had been killed in the opening salvo of the civil war:

torroar said:
"You call us tyrants and monsters, and yet," she glanced from the knife to its former owner and growled. "It was your troops who assaulted the carriage train of Ursus Mattrin, was it not? It was your agents who slew his bear, was it not? It was your efforts," she stomped forward at rapid speed, "That have seen his family dead!?" She screamed the last at his face. "Children!" She howled in the air, and raised her left hand, still coated with the blood of Mattrin Romanov's grandchildren.

The Boyar made to open his mouth before Alexandra shoved his knife back into his gut, cutting through the binding ropes there with ease. An armored knee to the face knocked him onto his back, and then she began to stomp down with her boot. With every impact, she saw the carnage again flash into her mind. The shattered carriages, the screaming horses, the utterly still bodies. Adults, elders, guards, and children both. Tiny little fur coats with bloodied ushanka hats knocked askew by the cannons and guns that had been secretly put into the alleys of the city. Without even the bear to save them, which would have instinctively protected its master had it not been forcibly put to sleep – and only sleep, for to slay such a sacred beast outright was of course impossible.

Or at least it should have been.
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because:

torroar said:
"Traitor?! Bah," Fyodor spat again, "I…am a patriot. For Kislev! The true Kislev! It is the Tzarina who has betrayed us! Stomping upon our rights, our traditions, our people! Grasping not simply for our wealth, not just our land, but the very Gods!"
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they thought she was getting too much power centralized. And in the end none of that mattered because:

torroar said:
"I can see that all of you look quite confused," Alexandra announced, now including the more aware Yellow Fangs in her words, "Do not worry. I shall educate you," she walked over to the ice block and placed a hand against it while glaring back at the Yellow Fangs. "You did a fine job twisting these bands of idiots," she flapped a hand at the Prosecutors and Humble Ones. "But tell me something. Are you truly loyal to the Horned Rat? Or," she slapped the ice block and dissolved a considerable portion of the front half to reveal a haggard looking woman who nonetheless somehow managed to retain a stark beauty to her. "Someone else?"

Sharp intakes of breath came from each of the Yellow Fangs, some louder than others. The woman in the ice remained bound, heavily, with only her head and upper torso revealed. Everything below the chest was still sunk deep into the ice, with even part of her head and neck still covered in frost. The very fingertips of her right hand were exposed to the open air, but there was nothing visible of the left arm save for a dark shadow in the ice. But despite all of that, and the fact that by all rights anyone else who was not blessed by the Widow's Grace should have been little more than a mostly frozen corpse, the moment her head was exposed the woman began to stir every so slowly with languid blinks. Her eyes were completely black with red sclera, her nose beginning to flare as she found herself awake again.

"Th-the Claw-Mistress?" One of the Yellow Fangs murmured aloud, shocked.

"Is that what you called her? Interesting," Alexandra clucked her tongue as the woman began to struggle harder - harder than a human should have been able to, especially. "I call her a Lahmian vampire."

The vampire, the Yellow Fangs, the Ranaldians, and the Verenans all stiffened up.

"Because that, in fact, is what she is," Alexandra brushed her hand close enough to the abomination's face for her to try and snap out at her hand with suddenly extruded fangs, only to hiss in pain and wince as they bit down on Ledstali.
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the civil war was started by Lahmians using a Skaven Human Cult to inflame Verenan and Ranaldan Flagellants into starting an open rebellion.

Which because the rebellion did start resulted in factions forming and Alexandra having to run around putting out fires while looking for Kattarin to restore order in Kislev. This resulted in a lot of fighting and infighting on all sides, but also:

torroar said:
"Erengrad's banners rise and fall in support of any number of sides depending on how the wind blows," she grumbled. "The lands that stretch between her and Praag are lost to us, and held solely by the traitors," though there she paused and inclined her head to Alexandra, "A tactical success, on your part, Regent, to allow them to bleed themselves against the monstrosities pushing out of the Troll Country. But-,"

"But it is still territory held by the Bohka banner and their supporters, yes," Alexandra noted, her words clipped. "And as they defend the people, their support rises – just as our cause does in the course of cleaning the board of greenskins and anarchists both."

There would be a reckoning, at some point, for the slain and imprisoned Verenans and Ranaldians left in the wake of this. A reckoning for their Cults, certainly, for fostering such creatures.
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in the Bohka holding the territory between Erengrad and Praag that is the border with the Troll Country that we will need to pass trough if/when we get off the Arc in Norsca. And the Bohka rebels will not let Natasha or anyone related to her trough peacefully so we have a fight to look forward to if Alexandra has not gotten control of this territory back in the meanwhile.

Then there is the matter of the Death Twins/Dark Sisters Agatha and Alisa and what they've been doing in Kislev:

torroar said:
"And hello again," she said softly. "As I feared, the talks did not go well."

"That seemed evident by the cannon fire and screams," the older woman drawled as she toweled off her hands.

"Efforts at peace and reconciliation were not successful, yes," Alexandra sighed, "But what of yours?"

Similarly covered in gore as her, albeit from different sources, she received the amusing sight of two pairs of purple eyes crinkling in amusement.

"Not too-,"
"Bad. We-"
"-have learned-,"
"-some interesting things."

Alexandra raised her eyebrows.

"Oh? Do tell, my sisters, do tell."

Agatha and Alisa gestured in unison towards the vampires, and when they spoke next, it too came in perfect unison without flaw as one.

"Your interrogation efforts were not entirely in vain, they led you this far, but you did not have access to the same particular abilities as we do. We have learned more. The plans of this grouping have gone to pieces," they both shrugged their left shoulders while their master finished toweling off.

"To pieces?" Alexandra glanced down at them.

The vampires could not glance back, all three of them missing eyes as they were, but she couldn't help but note that one had strange dark colored plants in their eye sockets, the second with silver coins that made for sizzling noises where they rested, and the third had one eye socket full of sawdust and the other with a bulb of garlic.

"The initial plan was for slow infiltration, subversion," the twins spoke once more, "Their plans were accelerated unnaturally due to the presence of the skaven. The skaven wished for the Tzarina as well, but for different purposes."

Alexandra's heart seized slightly in her chest, but she forced herself to keep breathing.

"Continue," she said through gritted teeth.

"Apparently, some of the Masters Moulder desire to experiment upon your kind," they both pointed at her with their right index finger, "To examine the change in the magic – from Ice Magic to…something more openly touched by…divinity," they both shifted uncomfortably in the exact same way.

Her heart began to beat harder, each breath now releasing cold puffs of misty air.

"They…they…what?" She could not even say the potential blasphemies rattling around in her mind.

"Vampires claim they saved her," the twins blinked a single time at the exact same time. "From the skaven. Who were helped by the Yellow Fang, who were tricked…by vampires?"

"It would not be the first time that vampires have worked against other vampires," the elder wizard finally spoke up again, examining her nails to ensure their cleanliness. "Rivalries, hatreds, insults, such things can fester for them for centuries or longer. Is it truly so great a surprise such a thing could happen?"

Alexandra hissed quietly.

"This, we know. But more to the point," she gestured at her assorted prisoners. "I have gathered these vampires in my efforts to locate the Tzarina, but are you saying-,"

"They lost her," the twins nod, making Alexandra immediately have to force herself from screaming aloud. "To the skaven. Eshin contractors, apparently."

"And where," she snarled, furious now at the vampires even more for their incompetence on top of everything else. "Are they?!"

"Heading north, last they heard, and we have some clues as to their path to a certain point," the twins looked past her and towards the latest prisoner. "But maybe that one has more information."

North.

Bohka territory. Beastman territory. Skaven territory. Where her information network was weakest, where the enemy was strongest. The Northern Oblast, impossible to fully claim by anyone, even the forces of Chaos. There were bands of Norseman up there, even, though they had been more sparse than usual in the past few years. It didn't help that she now had a reason behind some of the disappearances. Sometimes the Oblast took what it would from the people of Kislev, in one fashion or another. Sometimes she herself had been responsible for some of those disappearances. But not all of them. How many had the skaven taken? How many would they continue to take? Too many, and too many, if they could not be stopped.
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torturing vampires for the information on where the Tzarina is which resulted in us knowing that Katarin is in the Northern Oblast being the ball in a game of keep away between Vampires and Skaven. So we might run into her and them as well. So:

hugo239111 said:
Canon Katterin at this point was transformed into a Lahmian and managed to resist for over a century the scion of an entire subspecies beating down your mental defensives. Obviously a lot has happened behind the scenes but well established is her husband dying put her down the path to run into the vampires. We have seen that she is kicking the pants off of the vampires as they manipulate skaven cultists, chaos cultists, the actual cults of Ursun and Dazh and Tor, her SON, and a decent portion of her country to the point of civil war. I think we can safely say she isn't a vampire at this point but also she isn't all there. I imagine with all that's happening she may have to abdicate and Alexandra or one of her sons take over. (assuming it goes her way)
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We can't safely say that Kattarin isn't a Vampire because we don't know what the Vampires have done to her in the meanwhile. And also:

Blackangel said:
Ok I didn't know that, but her being a vampire is so far down my list of worse case scenarios. For me the worst case scenario is katterin losses and our daughter gets thrown into the bonfire for being her right hand woman, as well as them linking her to the empire and becoming mega isolationist. I don't think there is a single possible positive end to the civil war, at most we can reduce our losses and save our daughter.

Basically we keep our hands away from the fire and try to pick up whatever coals are leftover. I'm really not confident in doing anything besides saving our daughter, which I'm not even sure how she will react to us wanting her to leave. I mean she seems very invested, what if she wants to stay?
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There are positive ends to the civil war if Kattarin or Alexandra come out on top as the winners.
 
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