I, Borgia

The ceasefire with the assassins at the beginning was a good idea because at that moment we were weak, and we didn't have that many resources to start with and it would have been easier for Edzio to kill us. But now we are more prepared for them, and we can take the offensive. We are still not going to attack the brotherhood in Italy, we cannot be known to break our word, but we are going to start causing mayhem into other brotherhoods.

We also need to expand more aggressively the contacts that the order has and search for more people that can join the order to help our son and create a network that would keep us informed on the goings in the world. I believe that we should try and find people that are really good causing chaos (the hammer that crashes against our enemies) and someone that can use words as a weapon and bring even more followers (either to himself or the order) that could help in expanding our order into the new world or locations where there is a big assassin's presence.
 
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We could try and do something similar as to what was done in AC:Origins/Odyssey/Valhalla were there are the members of the order that have come into a position of power or an informant and there are the champions ("Templar knights"?) who had the job of hunting down and fighting the assassins that arrived to the city/island/region. We could also have it so that each champion takes a "squire" so to say, where they are though how to hunt (could be used against assassins or bounties), how to fight and stuff like that.
 
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We could try and do something similar as to what was done in AC:Origins/Odyssey/Valhalla were there are the members of the order that have come into a position of power or an informant and there are the champions ("Templar knights"?) who had the job of hunting down and fighting the assassins that arrived to the city/island/region. We could also have it so that each champion takes a "squire" so to say, where they are though how to hunt (could be used against assassins or bounties), how to fight and stuff like that.
From my memory, which is far from infallible, in origins it was a type of Egyptian "police" organization that worked for a templar you kill then wanted revenge, in odyssey it was mercenaries higher up on the ranking boards than Cassandra without any actual ties to the Templars, in Valhalla they were wandering warriors and mercenaries who were secretly members and enforcers of the Templars
 
Our lack of results pushed him into taking an action that would probably help the order in the end. Even if those actions are against our wishes.
 
Our lack of results pushed him into taking an action that would probably help the order in the end. Even if those actions are against our wishes.

I'm aware, but frankly I just don't care. He went against our wishes and is now taking our son and heir away from us without any of our input and now potentially is turning him against us. If we weren't already this deep in and that our surname is forever tied to the Roman Rite, I would have advocated renouncing the order entirely at this point. Things like this infuriates me.
 
I'm aware, but frankly I just don't care. He went against our wishes and is now taking our son and heir away from us without any of our input and now potentially is turning him against us. If we weren't already this deep in and that our surname is forever tied to the Roman Rite, I would have advocated renouncing the order entirely at this point. Things like this infuriates me.
Our actions or lack of actions have consequences, if you didn't want juan to be the one to introduce lupo to it, we should have done it ourselves before hand, did you think we could get away with not telling Lupo before he turned 18? Were you planning on telling him at all?
 
Our actions or lack of actions have consequences, if you didn't want juan to be the one to introduce lupo to it, we should have done it ourselves before hand, did you think we could get away with not telling Lupo before he turned 18? Were you planning on telling him at all?

To be blunt, if I found this quest at the start, I would have voted that this quest went historical instead of being set in the world of Assassin's Creed. I bet and understand that I have the less popular opinion here but I really just, don't care at all about this shadow war between the Templars and Assassins and would rather have the greater focus be on managing our own realm, and really this just solidifies those feelings within me.
 
Plan: leonardo's replacement and a heist
-[X] try to recruit raphael
--[X] Assign Machiavelli
-[X] Continue django project
--[X] Assign Django Argov
-[X]continue ilario project
--[X] Assign Ilario
-[X] Continue mending the damage in Parma
--[X] Assign Giovanni (advisor action)
-[X]begin elena floating dock project
- -[X]assign elena
-[X]begin heist on monastery
- -[X]assign arano assign sixth sense
-[X]Try to befriend people in your court
- -[X]belotti

I'm unsure if guillaume and Sophia actions will continue without us till they succeed or fail so I'll leave them out for the moment. Belotti is spending the most time with Eden pieces and the templars and assails so we might need to bring him into the temars sooner than later hence befriending him to get the relationship up. We have dozens of engineering projects but only one engineer unless belotti is counted but he's usually on archeological digs.
 
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What are we going to do with the telescope workshop?
Is an old project we had leonardo do it's meant to give a bonus to artillery using it for spotting targets, scouts and ships navigation(including colonies). Plus it's already near done anyway.

edit: changed to Elena past project she's more likely to do it and enjoy it and belotti I'll enjoy using it for academic/archeological purposes.
 
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Since only one plan/vote has been cast I'm gonna give this one some more time. I've also realized I forgot to update how the war with the Aztecs going, just assume Cortes is winning through the liberal application of war crimes
 
Plan: leonardo's replacement and a heist
-[X] try to recruit Michelangelo
--[X] Assign Machiavelli
-[X] Continue django project
--[X] Assign Django Argov
-[X]continue ilario project
--[X] Assign Ilario
-[X] Continue mending the damage in Parma
--[X] Assign Giovanni (advisor action)
-[X]begin elena floating dock project
- -[X]assign elena
-[X]begin heist on monastery
- -[X]assign arano assign sixth sense
-[X]Try to befriend people in your court
- -[X]belotti

I'm unsure if guillaume and Sophia actions will continue without us till they succeed or fail so I'll leave them out for the moment. Belotti is spending the most time with Eden pieces and the templars and assails so we might need to bring him into the temars sooner than later hence befriending him to get the relationship up. We have dozens of engineering projects but only one engineer unless belotti is counted but he's usually on archeological digs.
I'm fairly sure that the projects will continue on their own so long as we don't tell the people doing em to do anything, maybe we could spend the turn socializing?
 
I'm fairly sure that the projects will continue on their own so long as we don't tell the people doing em to do anything, maybe we could spend the turn socializing?
Already have an action for that with belotti as for the projects I'm gonna assume that you have to spend an action on them sine we had in the past when Django was building his opera house or ilario our castle, il change those though if pitlord states otherwise that we don't need to spend an action on those and they'll continue without us Interfering.
 
for the future when michelangelo dies (if we succeed in enlisting him) I would suggest to take in his place Andrea Palladio, a famous architect who influenced the architecture of many countries with his style.
 
Another thing of note, Michelangelo was Leonardo's rival in the arts, not engineering
We'll I was trying for an engineer but an artist is good too since we're in the renaissance period, it would unlock interesting personal projects if we fund him for that though I could change it to have Machiavelli look for new engineers if anyone wants me too.

Edit: what about trying to recruit Raphael instead of Michelangelo since he was a painter and architect while Michelangelo was a painter and sculptor. Or just change it to a standard trade deal with the league of Byzantium.
 
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We'll I was trying for an engineer but an artist is good too since we're in the renaissance period, it would unlock interesting personal projects if we fund him for that though I could change it to have Machiavelli look for new engineers if anyone wants me too.

Edit: what about trying to recruit Raphael instead of Michelangelo since he was a painter and architect while Michelangelo was a painter and sculptor. Or just change it to a standard trade deal with the league of Byzantium.

Raphael would be a great unit for us but gold is also always great to have, I can see the use in having either of these things done but I don't see much point in having an exclusive artist on retainer when we could just commission him when the need for him pops up.
 
Raphael would be a great unit for us but gold is also always great to have, I can see the use in having either of these things done but I don't see much point in having an exclusive artist on retainer when we could just commission him when the need for him pops up.
ill try to get the architect Raphael then unless you'd prefer the trade deal?
 
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