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End of an Era (Naruto AU)

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On one hand, that went way better than I feared. On the other, even the mention of those kinds of drugs is legit scary. At least ninja magic healing means any physical surgery is more likely to work, I guess.

[] Test his skill in genjutsu, using Maki to really push him beyond his limits, and force him to confront his doubts.

It worked for Luke and Yoda in the nightmare tree, right?

[] It's time for a training expedition… at least, a short one. Go out into the desert, see if he can't do a little better without people to compare himself to.

I don't see this doing much to help? Shizue'd still be there, right?

[] Try to teach him by integrating him into teamwork, where… if he can be made to stop doubting himself quite so much, he can see that he plays a part in such a fight.

Probably the most straightforward of the plans.

[] It'd be rough, but perhaps what he needs to do is just… fight harder. Just spend all his time with Saya--with Shizue there to make sure he survives--practicing his taijutsu until his arms fall off.

Guarenteed to work! Side effects include actually loosing your arms.

[] Write-in.

Too bad this is a Quest where montage music doesn't work. Right? Hmm...

[X] Music! Give Yuichi various matching background music during training to boost his spirit. It's just like in some of those ninja movies, but in real life!

[X] Teamwork Trials?

buli-buli said:
On the topic of Chunin Exams, I could see a minor village "outsourcing" it's contestants. Of course, that would bring a lot of attention to Emikolle.
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Actually, I can think of one reason to try to get a hidden village to sponsor some of the Emikolle into the Chunin Exams. I wouldn't say it's a smart idea, but if the Emikolle did want attention, then going to the exams, openly identifying themselves as former ninja of the defunct Hidden Reef, and kicking ass at their young age is guarenteed to get international (political) attention. What Shizue and friends would try to do with that attention or why they'd want it, I don't know. It'd have to be a damn good reason to convince a hidden vilage's leader, and they'd need someone without a giant bounty to stand in for Jounin-sensei during the exams...
 
[X] Try to teach him by integrating him into teamwork, where… if he can be made to stop doubting himself quite so much, he can see that he plays a part in such a fight.
[X] Teamwork Trials?

~Teamwork~
 
Sivantic said:
What?

Sauce pls.
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You recall Emiko is competent enough in medicine, specifically drug related medicine to:
-Create an antidote to an unknown exotic poison from scratch materials WHILE poisoned
-Teach a rookie medic nin.
-Develop advanced genjutsu poisons

She's as good as you are likely to get compared to anything short of a Kabuto, Orochimaru or Tsunade. It's not her area of primary specialty, but as missing nin?
Missing nin medics are in short supply. Ones you can trust to adjust your own biology over an extended period even more so.
 
veekie said:
You recall Emiko is competent enough in medicine, specifically drug related medicine to:
-Create an antidote to an unknown exotic poison from scratch materials WHILE poisoned
-Teach a rookie medic nin.
-Develop advanced genjutsu poisons

She's as good as you are likely to get compared to anything short of a Kabuto, Orochimaru or Tsunade. It's not her area of primary specialty, but as missing nin?
Missing nin medics are in short supply. Ones you can trust to adjust your own biology over an extended period even more so.
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She actually has trouble teaching Rika, and has farmed out some of the stuff to others and scrolls.

I don't know of a good comparison, but basically, if it's a poison/chemical, she might be able to finagle the equivalent of medical knowledge of it... if it's not, she's kinda on unsteady ground.
 
The Laurent said:
She actually has trouble teaching Rika, and has farmed out some of the stuff to others and scrolls.

I don't know of a good comparison, but basically, if it's a poison/chemical, she might be able to finagle the equivalent of medical knowledge of it... if it's not, she's kinda on unsteady ground.
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So basically she's using the Poison skill as a substitute for a broader Pharmacology skill?
Either way, not like we're going to get a better alternative any time soon...
 
veekie said:
So basically she's using the Poison skill as a substitute for a broader Pharmacology skill?
Either way, not like we're going to get a better alternative any time soon...
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She can solve almost any medical problem, as long as it is presented in poison form.

Obviously the answer is that she needs to somehow create healing poisons, and poisons that magically stitch up wounds. :V
 
The Laurent said:
She can solve almost any medical problem, as long as it is presented in poison form.

Obviously the answer is that she needs to somehow create healing poisons, and poisons that magically stitch up wounds. :V
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Well, at least we know who to go to if we ever want to cure cancer.
 
Sivantic said:
I just worry about him and think it would be really cool to do mission on helping out.
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Her, and I mean, we can prioritize looking for help soon? Probably not exactly now, but the next time we're going to a new town we could look out. There's gotta be medic-nin who could at least do better blood testing equivalents, as an easy first thing?
 
[X] Test his skill in genjutsu, using Maki to really push him beyond his limits, and force him to confront his doubts.
[X] Letter Writing Scorched Earth Campaign.
 
NemoMarx said:
Her, and I mean, we can prioritize looking for help soon? Probably not exactly now, but the next time we're going to a new town we could look out. There's gotta be medic-nin who could at least do better blood testing equivalents, as an easy first thing?
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Oh I am well aware it is not something we can do immediately. We are still in the middle of nowhere, we do have a whole bunch of other things to do, and we are stuck here for the next few months anyway.

Just something to see if we can investigate once we head somewhere new.
 
NemoMarx said:
Her, and I mean, we can prioritize looking for help soon? Probably not exactly now, but the next time we're going to a new town we could look out. There's gotta be medic-nin who could at least do better blood testing equivalents, as an easy first thing?
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Reminder that the vast majority of medic nin are specialized battlefield medics. They'd be better able to treat an amputation than a gender reassignment. Barring a medical genius like Tsunade, or a medic nin who built their repertoire around taking care of exotic bloodline limits(which would need related treatments to deal with the systematic inbreeding to keep the traits strong or manage the side effects)...your best bet is a budding Orochimaru.

It'd be a story arc level investment. A rank medic nins with a specialty in modifying biology you can trust just aren't people you can look up, considering the needed specialties, missing nins with such specialties are very likely the type of missing nins exiled for unethical experiments. If Emiko knew such a person they'd already be on our travel schedule, considering Rika had kind of exceeded her ability to teach, with or without Genta/Maki's situation.
 
NemoMarx said:
Her, and I mean, we can prioritize looking for help soon? Probably not exactly now, but the next time we're going to a new town we could look out. There's gotta be medic-nin who could at least do better blood testing equivalents, as an easy first thing?
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I mean, this isn't actually Shizue's problem? Give help if asked, sure, but Shizue has her own life to worry about. It's not Shizue's priority!
 
Briefvoice said:
I mean, this isn't actually Shizue's problem? Give help if asked, sure, but Shizue has her own life to worry about. It's not Shizue's priority!
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Shizue actually does consider it important since her friend is being impacted, but hormone replacement therapy is geniuinely not feasibly performed by anyone, because we're missing nin. Plus sides:
-Rika is learning to take care of side effects with Genta/Maki as part of her foundation medical development. This means she's going to be picking up big medicine modifiers just from keeping track of the progression.

-Emiko is REALLY good at psychological and pharmacological stuff, between her focuses on infiltration, genjutsu and poisons. While this of course, does not imply she's any sort of physician, she IS very good at the individual components of the process. Now if only she wasn't stressed, overloaded and spreading herself thin trying to keep everyone's issues seen to...

-Genta/Maki's Shomeigan helps a lot with figuring out the right processes, though the output is highly suspect because of how emotionally laden the situation is, it's as close to a computer simulator as they can get.

On Shizue's part? What she does best is keep the group together, help them help each other, and Emiko can actually focus on not fucking it up.
 
veekie said:
Shizue actually does consider it important since her friend is being impacted, but hormone replacement therapy is geniuinely not feasibly performed by anyone, because we're missing nin. Plus sides:
-Rika is learning to take care of side effects with Genta/Maki as part of her foundation medical development. This means she's going to be picking up big medicine modifiers just from keeping track of the progression.
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I guess. I have to say, I don't really like this trend in the character where she acts like everyone else's problems are her problems to solve. To support, sure. To help as asked and if opportunity arises, sure.

But it's important to realize that other people's problems are their problems, not yours, and you have to limit your own exposure.

Like, right now we're having a vote on how to help Yuichi with his training, and I'm wondering how much energy Shizue should actually be prepared to invest in this. I'm okay with doing 'something' I guess. Because she chooses to, not because she's obligated to.
 
Briefvoice said:
I guess. I have to say, I don't really like this trend in the character where she acts like everyone else's problems are her problems to solve. To support, sure. To help as asked and if opportunity arises, sure.

But it's important to realize that other people's problems are their problems, not yours, and you have to limit your own exposure.

Like, right now we're having a vote on how to help Yuichi with his training, and I'm wondering how much energy Shizue should actually be prepared to invest in this. I'm okay with doing 'something' I guess. Because she chooses to, not because she's obligated to.
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Thats however, Shizue's 'slot' in the team. She's the glue that keeps it ticking without constant interventions by Emiko, as she's one of the more social and least burdened with her own issues...well if you look at it from another angle, Shizue has major issues about loneliness, which she's coping with by making everyone be friends and stay friends.

She's also probably emulating Emiko a chunk there, and only a part of it is a desire to reduce the load on Emiko.
 
Yeah. I'm going to have to agree with @veekie here. Shizue's issues are a desperate need to for social connections. She was an ostracized orphan for years. Its why, even when she's not particularly close to everyone on the team, she always goes out of her way to at least facilitate relationship building within the group and to build compromises and consensus whenever people might split up.

Also, @The Laurent , I love how Emiko pointed out Shizue's leadership role to her in the last update. I wonder how much Shizue is aware that she's sort of the glue keeping the team together.
 
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veekie said:
Reminder that the vast majority of medic nin are specialized battlefield medics. They'd be better able to treat an amputation than a gender reassignment. Barring a medical genius like Tsunade, or a medic nin who built their repertoire around taking care of exotic bloodline limits(which would need related treatments to deal with the systematic inbreeding to keep the traits strong or manage the side effects)...your best bet is a budding Orochimaru.

It'd be a story arc level investment. A rank medic nins with a specialty in modifying biology you can trust just aren't people you can look up, considering the needed specialties, missing nins with such specialties are very likely the type of missing nins exiled for unethical experiments. If Emiko knew such a person they'd already be on our travel schedule, considering Rika had kind of exceeded her ability to teach, with or without Genta/Maki's situation.
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Well, Akachi did joke about Rika being our own Orochimaru... I mean, the context was that she would make sure nobody died so it would be like she searched for immortality for others instead of herself, but it is the thought that counts?
 
veekie said:
-Genta/Maki's Shomeigan helps a lot with figuring out the right processes, though the output is highly suspect because of how emotionally laden the situation is, it's as close to a computer simulator as they can get.
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I have always viewed it like Tattletale aka supersherlock. The problem is that it is all based on preexisting information and assumptions, meaning that even if he can perfectly simulate and see the outcome, he is not our medic-nin and thus will be missing information.

So best case scenario, it somewhat works
neutral case, nothing happens
worst case, it actively harms whether temporarily or permanently.

Stacking the dice in our favor as much as possible, but it is still a roll of the dice :S
 
Sivantic said:
I have always viewed it like Tattletale aka supersherlock. The problem is that it is all based on preexisting information and assumptions, meaning that even if he can perfectly simulate and see the outcome, he is not our medic-nin and thus will be missing information.

So best case scenario, it somewhat works
neutral case, nothing happens
worst case, it actively harms whether temporarily or permanently.

Stacking the dice in our favor as much as possible, but it is still a roll of the dice :S
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Such is the lot of the missing nin.

Though anyone not in a major faction is just as screwed really. From what we've seen the ninja villages are not about to dedicate the kind of resources to researching something as unimportant(to them) as gender reassignment anyways. So the major villages might have an actual R&D department or sufficiently compassionate elites looking into it in their own time, but don't bet on it.
 
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