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[Worm x Fate] Journeywoman & Apprentice

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fallacies said:
maybe with a little trial and error, I'd be able to parkour from building to building absent the risk of grievous injury.
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Interesting second-order change from canon, where Taylor was completely soured on roof-hopping after realising she had no easy way to get down. Reinforcement helps a lot there...

... but a little power is a dangerous thing. I'm not entirely sure why Taylor dismissed the use of her swarm out of hand - possibly it just doesn't fit her image of a hero, and since she (thinks she) had another option, she took it.

She did seem a little eager to 'put her life on the line' in the name of heroism, going by her internal monologue. Rin, it's happening again...
 
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Timeline of Earth Bet relevant as of 011
  • Informational
    • 1680

    July 12​
    - birth of Abigail Williams​
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    November 14​
    - discovery of Newton's Comet​

    1692

    February 9​
    - inception of the Salem Witch Trials​

    1807

    - in New Hampshire, the industrialist Samuel Blodgett begins the construction of a series of canals that extend seawards from the Merrimack River to Lord's Port​

    1838

    - Manchester, NH is founded as a company town by the Amoskeag Manufacturing Company​

    1842

    January 1​
    - Boston & Maine Railroad established a line between Manchester and Lord's Port​

    1846

    October 1​
    - Manchester, NH is incorporated as a city​

    1850

    July 1​
    - Lord's Port, NH is renamed as Brockton Bay, and incorporated as a city​

    1878

    July 29​
    - total solar eclipsein North America​
    - Birth of Lavinia Whateley​

    1913

    February 2​
    - Birth of Wilbur Whateley​

    1982

    May 20 ​
    - Scion is first sighted above the Atlantic Ocean​

    1983

    - the Chinese Union-Imperial is formed, resulting in the 1st Asian Diaspora​

    1984

    - the first superheroes emerge​
    - Amoskeag Manufacturing Company is acquired by a Japanese company, and closes sites in New Hampshire​
    - Stevedores Union riot in Brockton Bay, New Hampshire​
    - in an effort to preempt the imminent downturn of the economy, the State Legislature of New Hampshire passes Sanctuary Laws -- bringing in a flow of Asian immigrants​

    1987

    - superheroes unveil themselves to the public​
    - Slaughterhouse Nine is founded; the founder, King, is killed later in the year, and Jack Slash becomes his successor​

    February 3 ​
    - Rin Zenjou is born to Aoi Zenjou​

    1988

    - the Empire Eighty-Eight forms​
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    May 1 ​
    - Alexandria, Legend, Eidolon, and Hero become the founding members of the initial Protectorate​

    1992

    - Japanese asset price bubble collapses, resulting in the inception of the Lost Decade​
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    December 13 ​
    - Behemoth appears in Marun Field, Iran​

    1993

    January18​
    - the PRT is founded​

    1995

    June 18​
    - Taylor Anne Hebert is born​

    1996

    June 9​
    - Leviathan appears in Oslo, Norway​

    1997

    - the oil platform Seraphics, originally situated near Newfoundland, Canada, is sold into the ownership of the PRT, and relocated off the coast of Brockton Bay, New Hampshire​

    1998

    - NEPEA-5 is signed into law, vastly curtailing parahuman involvement in business​

    1999
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    - Scion dons white body suit​
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    November 2​
    - Leviathan destroys Kyushu, Japan​

    2000

    - Lung relocates from Japan to Anhui Province, China, and is subsequently captured by the Yangban​
    - in Brockton Bay, Fleur is killed​
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    September 15 ​
    - Hero is killed in an engagement between the Protectorate and the Slaughterhouse Nine​
    - Alexandria engages and is injured by the Siberian​
    - the surviving members of the original Protectorate are redesignated as the Triumvirate​

    2001

    February 2​
    - Nilbog appears in Ellisburg, NY, prompting the establishment of a quarantine by the PRT​

    2002

    - Lung escapes from the Yangban​
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    December 31​
    - Simurgh appears in Lausanne, Switzerland​

    2003

    - Lung arrives in Brockton Bay, and greatly expands the former street gang known as the Azn Bad Boys​

    August 12 ​
    - Simurgh attacks London, England​

    2005

    May 9​
    - Leviathan destroys Newfoundland, Canada​

    2008

    - Sophia Hess triggers​
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    August​
    - Annette Hebert dies​

    2009

    June 28​
    - Taylor Hebert goes to summer camp​
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    August​
    - Emma Barnes is attacked by the Azn Bad Boys​
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    September​
    - Emma and Sophia begin to bully Taylor​
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    December​
    - Simurgh attacks Madison, WI​

    2010

    December​
    - Dinah Alcott triggers​

    2011

    January 3 ​
    - Taylor Hebert triggers​
    - Rin Zenjou begins renovations on 24 Arbor St., Brockton Bay​
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    January 29​
    - Taylor returns home from the hospital​
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    February 4​
    - Chapter 011​
     
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    • fallacies said:
    Corrected to June 18th.
    The Aoi Zenjou of this timeline only has a single daughter.
    The shards have access to magecraft-adjacent capabilities.
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    Then why does Rin mention Sakura by name as her sister, is it a diffrent person a sister in name only?
    Or , is Rin capable of the kaleidoscope and is getting memories from her alternates.
    Edit: I just thought they could also be half sisters in this time line.
     
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    Pertuarbo101 said:
    Somewhat confused as Rin explicitly mentioned Sakura as her younger sister a couple of chapters ago unless Sakura had a different mother in this timeline?
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    She won't be Sakura if she had a different mother.
    Personally, I feel combining two different settings into one world made the plot a whole lot complicated. Because if heroic spirits were a thing, Cauldon wouldn't have any need for vials.
     
    fallacies said:
    The shards have access to magecraft-adjacent capabilities.
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    Um shards can't do magic like at all because magic is so physics breaking, the same way entities or shard can't actually manipulate souls it too conceptual for them or outside of their understanding, I think there's a WoG that points that out. If you mean adjacent in the sense that though it may seem like magic it is not actually magic but it's nearly comparable.
     
    Daxus1120 said:
    Um shards can't do magic like at all because magic is so physics breaking, the same way entities or shard can't actually manipulate souls it too conceptual for them or outside of their understanding, I think there's a WoG that points that out. If you mean adjacent in the sense that though it may seem like magic it is not actually magic but it's nearly comparable.
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    Considering it's still magecraft, a shard probably can fake it pretty convincingly.

    It still can't do anything like conceptual ones though.
     
    Daxus1120 said:
    Um shards can't do magic like at all because magic is so physics breaking, the same way entities or shard can't actually manipulate souls it too conceptual for them or outside of their understanding, I think there's a WoG that points that out. If you mean adjacent in the sense that though it may seem like magic it is not actually magic but it's nearly comparable.
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    There's a difference between Magic, as Sorcery aka True Magic, and Magecraft. The first is something that's entirely beyond Human capacity currently, even Fire was a Magic at somepoint, and the Second is something achievable by 'mundane' ends via supernatural processes.

    So Magecraft adjacent seems very apt to ascribe to a Shard, given in all likelihood their Science and Technology is in practice practically like Magic and Magecraft to Humanity.
     
    Of course Shards and Entities have access to magecraft-like abilities. In the context of this fic, the Shards exist in the Nasuverse. I highly doubt that humanity was the first or the only species that achieved something like magecraft amongst the numerous species Entities have visited.
     
    BlackMangoAde said:
    In the context of this fic, the Shards exist in the Nasuverse.
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    Oh so in the context of the fic, not in canon in which WoG confirmed entities never actually encounter magic, though I think there was a WoG that did confirm there was a earth in Worm that did have magic but was outside the entity reach somehow? I don't know maybe I should check it later, I think it was something involving Wildbow other works that involve magic that exist in the same universe as Worm.
     
    The Void said:
    There's a difference between Magic, as Sorcery aka True Magic, and Magecraft. The first is something that's entirely beyond Human capacity currently, even Fire was a Magic at somepoint, and the Second is something achievable by 'mundane' ends via supernatural processes.

    So Magecraft adjacent seems very apt to ascribe to a Shard, given in all likelihood their Science and Technology is in practice practically like Magic and Magecraft to Humanity.
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    Yeah except a Shard is pretty limited all things considered and saying it can do Magecraft in its entirety is rather weird. Magecraft is too broad and varied to be capable emulated by a single shard.

    Also, for science and Magic. those are basically just weird metaphysics. their "science" isn't even a true science as it basically the common accepted perception of reality. Dragon in the age of God is as scientific as car at the time.
     
    fallacies said:
    I didn't spare the attention to track her. Almost as soon as she was out of sight, the moths overhead caught sight of a visual distortion at the opposite end of the alley — vaguely human-shaped, but not unlike a haze in the distance on a hot summer day. In moments, it resolved, and a familiar figure approached me from behind — the four-inch heels of her leather thigh-highs clicking against the asphalt.
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    Kaleidoscope bullshit? It sounds like Kaleidoscope bullshit.
     
    Ylamona said:
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    A few last question can Lung be consider a dragon in a conceptual sense? Can Ziz or Endbringer be consider a phantasmal beast or something else the same conceptual sense? Does it require Gaia influence somehow?
    Edit: I'm seem to remember that Gaia gave divinity to a bunch of Alien spaceship in order to tie them under her control or something, did Gaia do the same to Zion?
     
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    Daxus1120 said:
    Oh so in the context of the fic, not in canon in which WoG confirmed entities never actually encounter magic, though I think there was a WoG that did confirm there was a earth in Worm that did have magic but was outside the entity reach somehow? I don't know maybe I should check it later, I think it was something involving Wildbow other works that involve magic that exist in the same universe as Worm.
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    I'm pretty sure Wildbow's WOG you are talking about was that souls are irrelevant in the context of the Parahuman series. Whether souls exist or not doesn't matter in setting, because they've never come up, like all the other settings in fiction that never mention or interact with souls. Now that this is a Fate crossover, the fic's author can decide whatever they want. Same goes for magecraft, I'm assuming.
     
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